Pretty good price for a Samsung C2.5kw H3.2kw Reverse Cycle Split System.
There is currently a Cashback offer for this model for upto $100 from Samsung. (Ends 31 August.)
If you were targeted, take another $70 off from this deal. Please use the classifieds for requesting codes.
After cashback I will end up paying only $529 with free click & collect.
Same model is selling for $1049 + delivery @ Appliances Online.
Which deal?
is it really a deal?
Having been stung myself with a dodgy AC installer after buying from a major hardware store and using their contracted installers, I would recommend going to a reputable, specialist AC retailer who also installs themselves.
A lot of electrical and hardware stores may sell their units cheaper and encourage you to use their contracted installation service which may not be that good.
Also, check other AC manufacturers' websites for cashback offers.
Out of curiosity what issues were you having?
The electrics weren't done properly and the electrician who was sent fix the dodgy work said it could've caused a fire.
The outdoor unit wasn't mounted properly on the wall brackets and the resulting vibration caused one of the bolts holding one the bracket to work loose.
The sub-contracted installers weren't certified so any work wouldn't be covered by the warranty and the list goes on.
The retailer did eventually get the issues fixed but it took a lot of phone calls from me and the retailer (to the installation contractors) plus threatening action from Fair Trading. All in all it took 9 months to get resolved.
Big retailers generally use a contracting company who then farm the installation work out to sub-contractors and you essentially play roulette with who you get, sometimes good, sometimes bad. The sub-contractors work within very low margins and often cut corners to save costs.
Here is a good review site for the major brands
https://www.canstarblue.com.au/appliances/air-conditioners/
After warranty you pays more n more to fix this shit and end up paying same with good brand overall bonus is down time to fix it 🤦
just spend 1k repairing an aircon unit that ants got into. pretty sure the unit cost less than that…
There's 5 years warranty
Insect/gecko intrusions aren't usually covered under warranty
How much for the installation on Top Though?
usually around the cost of buying another unit lol
Just checked installation is not available in Your Area Tweed Heads.
Good guy installation $649 for me , more expensive than the unit :(
500 to 600 is standard back to back installation cost for 2.5kw system
Think best to shop around. I've paid $250 - $400 per unit depending on the time of year in western Sydney. A back to back install is less than 2 hours labour, is it really a job that requires paying a gas fitter $300 per hour (inc call out, materials etc)? Even plumbers/electricians are not charging that much for small jobs around the house!
where do you shop around? That is impossible to get it done for that price, $400 is probably without any CES. Getting Electrician call out is already cost $100 and they will have to put in a extra safety switch + cable to main switchboard. I really doubt any proper installer will charge $250, how did you find a $250 quote?
@samehada: Have you tried calling your local plumbers or electricians? I'm just sharing my experiences and yes, they all did a "proper" job as you described.
Winter is also off peak for AC installs, so you can get better rates.
Sounds about right. Just had 1 installed in a bedroom and cost me $1300 (was a roof mounted installed which is a little more expensive) so $1250 sounds about the ball mark…
4.5 star for cooling only just be aware there are more efficient ones out there. My Panasonic from 4yrs ago was 5* cooling
what about HiSense, same price but more effective as per their specs
https://www.thegoodguys.com.au/hisense-c25kw-h32kw-reverse-c…
This is a much better than Samsung one or even Kelvinator and even with Smart Home feature (Wifi module included), TGG used to have 20-30% off sale on this model.
According to the specs Hisense outdoor unit is a lot louder than Samsung (59 vs 45 dBA)
Hisense great if you love the sound of long haul flights
I bought a few Samsung units at my old house. Had so many issues with them. Got 5 HiSense units for my new house and I was chatting to the installer about insect / geckos killing my Samsung ones. He said the HiSense design was significantly better than the Samsung units for protecting circuitry from geckos.
enough to cool/heat up a standard size living room plus kitchen?
not a chance. 2.5/3 is more like your typical bedroom. Any more (esp where it isnt an open space) and the heat will not really enter (e.g. adjacent rooms will stay cold) or the a/c will work hard and be noisy and inefficient .In your case it'll be more suited to heat up the living room or the kitchen, not both. If its an integrated open floor plan where the air needs to turn (kitchen and living aren't back to back) then again it'll be pathetic.
Air-con bargains are great, but when you spend $500-$700 installing (a near constant irrespective of S/S kw) then going for an appropriate size gets you much more bang for buck (i.e. find the right size then look for a bargain, not the other way around). For you, a bare min would be 5kw, but I like to oversize and would recommend 7kw (might cost $300-$400 more) and have the extra capacity to heat/cool, and allow the air-con to run a lighter workload/more efficiently most of the time (when its just maintaining temp).
For context, my house runs 2x 7.1kw systems (on an approx 1kw/10sqm floor space metric for main living/WFH areas), and seperate to that, 2 of the larger rooms have their own 2.5kw system. The main units heating the house run great, efficiently (approx. 1.5-2.5kwh/hour combined when maintaining) and quietly, and bedrooms ones are only used prior to going to bed/shower.
So if you want to run it efficiently no, by the book for kw to m2 no. In saying that I was on an extremely tight budget for some ac installs a few yrs ago and as a result have run a 3.5kw for a lounge/dining room combo and small kitchen in a townhouse before. Was advised it was too small, said to install anyway and it did an amazing job. Would a bigger unit have been better and quicker, sure. Did it do the job to make that room freezing cold within 30mins in peak summer - yes if I blasted it. I honestly didn't think I needed anything bigger even for maintaining a decent comfortable temp in QLD. Was I overworking the machine probably but it did the job at a cheap price
I think we have this one at home, its decent, the outside condenser unit is quite loud IMO (sounds like an airplane quite consistently)
Those non OZB/money saving interested family members really wanted to spend money on these and they spent IDK like 1700$ ish on this with installation (and they really dont have a brain on getting rebates on these either). I am done giving them advice, apparently they are allergic to money saving, they get severe headache when I suggest them a money saving option.
Pro's
Get's the job done
Con's
No Samsung's Smart home compatibility
Maximum 30* C temperature
Quite loud condenser
Con’s
Maximum 30* C temperature
Who needs their room/house to be more than 30°C?
Or 24 degrees? I usually set my heaters to 21 and just wear long clothes.
Sorry haven't seen clear answer on this. So is 3.2 W enough for cooling open plan style living room?
No
Only if you have a well-insulated modern home, or an apartment without too many external walls.
Most Australian houses leak heat horribly, so this would suit a lounge or large bedroom, but not open-plan.
5KW is recommended, I have 7.1kw for about 60sqm
This thing is rubbish. Had 2 of them in previous house and both had pcb boards issues within 3 years. Cost $500 to fix each one, so decided to replace with new mitsubishi units instead. Steer clear.
It has a 5 year warranty. Is there a reason you paid out of pocket?
It came with the house that I bought. No paperwork for warranty purposes, no installer details to follow up. The repairman estimates that the unit is around 3 years old and uneconomical to repair.
Do not get Samsung appliances except for TVs. They are crap.
Never again for me anyway.
My refrigerator seems to be fine, 8 yo.
Both Samsung and LG I would not touch. A colleague of mine got LG fridge with 10 year warranty and the fridge dies just one month before warranty ends and LG found all excuses to avoid the claim and in the end she just gave up.
If you browse through all home appliance forums and you can see both Samsung and LG get enough complaints.
Fingers crossed with your fridge.
10 years warranty is on the inverter only
Hisense is a better Split System with higher energy star rating and Wifi. It was on special before so you can wait for the sale again if you are not in a hurry.
https://www.thegoodguys.com.au/hisense-c25kw-h32kw-reverse-c…
Hisense = loud AF
Read the review section and the service supplied by Samsung.
any AC installer recommendations in Melbourne? most seem to do supply and install only during winter
Call around local plumbers or electricians. Some of them (with a gas fitter license) can install for you.
Go on hi pages and you'll get a bunch of fitters contact you
what about with using the token? has anyone successfully used it yet for a good price in melbourne?
Had nothing but issues with Samsung's. Probably would never buy again. Even through i had a 7.2Kw for the lounge/dining room etc. still felt like it wasnt up for the job and was just over 5 years old. Came installed with the house and have been living there for about 4 years now.
First problem it would throw out an error after running it for 20mins. had to turn off and then back on to get it to work. Called Samsung to come and have a look at it, cost me $180 just for them to come and for the fist 45mins of work. Dont know what he did but started to work fine for 3 months (got me through summer) which was great. Then come winter had issues again where no air was being pushed out. Called them again and an other $190 for 10mins to only tell me the fan motor is not working and you need a new mainboard. Total to fix it $1000 with no warranty and no guarantee that it would continue to work. Ended up just buying a new system (different brand) which made sense for the price i could get it for.
Bought two over 8 years ago. Usage are pretty similar. One broke down last year and the other still working well as at today. I replaced the broken on with mitsubishi. The installer said i should count my blessing it last over the warranty period.
Just wanted to say I had no issues with Samsung and it's probably luck how long yours will last. Also location might have an impact (i.e whether the back unit is under constant sun and rain).
Have a LG split system in our unit installed in the lounge are few years ago. Working ok. Looking to replace. Is the installation cost will be cheaper to replace an existing split system or same as installing a new one first time. Looking to for one to cover the lounge and small dining area in the unit looks insulated by walls on two sides and on the 2nd floor. Any suggestions please.
I have been told by 3 different air conditioning installers never ever buy Samsung air conditioners. They are garbage and will fail in no time.
Samsung aircon indeed is probably one of the worst products Samsung produces, and way poorer than most of the other competitors. I had 3 in my previous property and 3 Panasonic at my current property, I am happy to pay double for Panasonic than Samsung when it comes to aircon.
This would be considered 2nd tier quality, along with Hisense and Panasonic.
Fujitsu, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and Daikin still top
I would not rate Fujitus or Mitsubishi (either Heavy Industry or Electric) as top tier brand.
Only Daikin is top one followed by all second tier brands like Hisense, Fujitsu, Panasonic etc.
I would never touch any Korean brands in home appliances being it Samsung or LG.
My installer rated Panasonic quite high and he rate Mitsubishi Electric higher than MHI.
Agree that Fujitsu, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and Daikin are the top, also include ME and Panasonic.
No way would I consider Samsung and Panasonic splits to be of the same quality.
Mitsubishi Heavy is good but after warranty period they are pretty much unrepairable because parts are hard to obtain. Easier to replace the whole thing.
Panasonic on the other hand, parts are available should you require to repair them.
Fujitsu used to be top-tier and had been the only A/Cs we've used for decades, but not anymore from our experiences. The last two failures were PCB failures, one within warranty and fixed for free, the other a month out of warranty. Called Fujitsu for support anyway and they were very unhelpful, saying that even if it was still within warranty it wouldn't be covered anyway because we must've not cleaned the filter often enough which voids the warranty, which was a false accusation. After being a loyal customer we won't be buying Fujitsu anymore.
Another two Fujitsu's of ours 1-2 years out of warranty are still running, but both have recently developed problems (turning itself off for no reason, much more noisy, both can't maintain temp without running high when they never had to before, and even then they still sometimes struggle to maintain temp). They will have to be replaced as they are now very expensive to run.
I don't know others but Korean brands in all home appliances seem to be doing really terrible in terms of reliability and durability.
Samsung and LG are only good at top end TVs and nothing else.
These brands seem to go wrong just outside warranty period and while there is nothing wrong with it I believe most customers would still wish the appliances (air con, fridge, washing machines etc) will last at least 10 years versus the normal 5 year warranty.
You want top quality you go with Daikin full stop and you pay top dollars and you want value for money you go with Hisense full stop.
Any recommendation for a good AC installer around Hurstville area?
Swear I saw this inside a Bunnings
Dumb q. My bedroom needs one. How much and how to find a good person to come fit? My bedroom shares a wall with outside, but preference is for external unit to be a good 15m further down that wall on a shared wall with garage
I had a similar install in my main bedroom last year with the unit mounted on the opposite side of my property (prob about 15m as well). Was $1700 for a 2.5 kw Mitsubishi Electric unit.
Not too bad, thanks for that. That just labour?
Does it get ducted via your roof space?
Supply and labour. The electrician I used only dealt with Mitsubishi Electric or Daikin units, which is fine because they are two of the best brands. Yes, ducted via roof space. Removed a bunch of roof tiles to do it, so was more labour intensive than a standard install.
I put one of mine to the roof, and it's still back to back installation (i have flat tin roof so it might be easier to install). I need to have a small drip line to the outside wall for the indoor unit. But you can put a pump so that the water pump to the gutter above, that cost $300 extra i think.
Very nice find, wonder how they match up to the Hisense being offered with installation in the other deal?