A quality product for the price.
I was looking to get this at Autobarn but found that Amazon had it on sale even cheaper. If you don’t have Prime and/or not willing to wait for delivery Autobarn has it on sale for $41.99
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Not into all the car finish tech out there -If I want an easy finish for my bog standard car - should I get this or the ceramic wet wax here: https://www.amazon.com.au/Turtle-Wax-53410-Solutions-Ceramic…
I also use the wax and dry and like it.
I'd get this deal and alternate between the two (like I do). The bottle will last you 2 years at that rate, I reckon.
One is 11% off, the other one is 17% off. Then I choose 17% off one. That is ozb way ..hahaha
This guy recently got me onto this turtle wax product. It’s the best you can buy and this is a good price. It also lasts the longest in this test.
https://youtu.be/uYxKQwZah1s?si=2OfShjT6OD-mSmT1
The super expensive professional ceramic coating that I had put on my new vehicle about 4 years ago was loosing its beading effect, so I used this Turtle Wax product over the top, and six months later it is still beading the same as the week after my initial ceramic that cost $$$. I will be using this once a year on my vehicles from now on. It is easy to apply, but does make the car look a little greasy for the next week or so in my experience, once that is gone its perfect.
Is your car garaged? Road use only?
they recommend give it a couple sprays each panel every 4-6mths and just essentially wash it off with low-ish pressure water.
If it was actually a decent coating it’s probably just clogged.
Get in contact with your detailer but it probably just needs something like CarPro Descale for a wash and maybe an iron remover.
I've swtiched to the graphene flex wax a few layers ago, I find it stays cleaner longer. Both really good though.
I personally use the Meguiars Ceramic Wax (Blue spray bottle) however if you haven't used any of this product before i'd recommend any brand over the traditional paste waxes. unreal job. easy to apply and upkeep is just spray the bottle a couple times per panel and wash off.
whats the main benefits over just a normal wash?
you do this after a regular 2 sponge wash. if you have an older car (>5yrs) i'd suggest to give it a claybar to ensure that the surface is proper clean and without grime, and then you essentially on a wet panel, give it a few sprays per panel and wipe with a thick cloth (like a Bowdens Drop bear) and then rub dry with a regular microfiber.
and the benefit does it just stay cleaner for longer?
@xtommyk: yeah, definitely. Gets less dirty overall, stays cleaner for longer. Easier to wash next time so less time investment overall.
@xtommyk: admittedly within the first couple of weeks dust can hang on, but you just need a quick spray with water and it'll all fall off. after the first couple when the wax has settled and bonded it stays really clean.
If you don't mind waiting Link 1 is cheaper per bottle = $125.57 / 6 bottles = $20.93 per bottle
You can also get additional 10% off if you pair it with another product such as Link 2 = 20.93 * 0.9 = $18.84 per bottle
I did not do this deal because I prefer the Turtle Wax Seal N Shine - which I got a 2x6 pack (link now expired) for $156.44 for total of 12 bottles = $13.04 per bottle
Link 1: https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B094BBN67G/?coliid=I3T9FTPWCQVZ…
Link 2: https://www.amazon.com.au/Armor-All-Ceramic-Foaming-Extreme/…
Any difference between the two?
Both did the job - some reason in my situation I found seal and shine seemed to bead for a longer period
Just make sure you don't allow these products to dry on your paint.
I normally spray few squirts on each panel and wipe all over with microfibre cloth.
Once I am done with wiping the panels, I use the same cloth to wipe over all the glass.
I'm with you, Seal N Shine is an amazing product for the price. It goes on so easy and seems to bead for months.
Interested. Would this be OK to apply to wheels? Hoping a product like this would make it easy to wash disc brake dust off wheels.
no this is a coating for paint. use something like bowden's wheely clean for mags.
I think you misunderstood the question, Wheely clean is a wheel cleaner.
Once the wheels are clean you can apply a ceramic coating to them for obvious reasons, but I don't actually know if this product would work that well at doing so
Ah roger. No idea if that would have any improvement but shouldn't hurt to try.
I'd look at swapping out those shitty euro brake pads for some better low dust ones instead.
https://www.bendix.com.au/news-events/what-causes-brake-dust…
@nismoau: Whatever you do, don't bother with Bendix Euro pads. Sure there's no dust but you may as well replace them with blocks of wood.
I had a set fitted to my E90 and they were dreadful. Bendix replaced them and the second set were no better.
Ended up pulling the whole lot out and replacing with Akebono pads from rockauto
Yes you can after your wheels are throughly cleaned and dried. Wipe with some ipa or panel prep and spray on an applicator and into your wheels. It won't last long compared to dedicated wheel coatings, but should get a couple of months.
Tbh too much work, you are better off using a spray and rinse product like gyeon wet coat on your wheels. It will last about 2-3 washes and make brake dust easier to clean off wheels
$32.03 from the Amazon US seller, if you can wait
I tried this one in the past and found it very prone to leaving a lot of streaks/residue and requiring far too much polishing to buff clear (as in polishing to the point where you're just going to leave tons of swirl marks/clear coat scratches on your paint, especially if you have a modern vehicle with the typical thin, crappy coating of paint/clear coat).
With a few exceptions, all of these spray-on hydrophobic coatings have the same issue: they clog most cloths very, very easily (after 10 sprays at the most) and you need to go through about 3-5 cloths (depending on the size) while polishing to prevent the coating from building up in the cloth to the point where it's over-applicated and becomes impossible to buff out on the paint surface and just leaves tons of smears/streaks and excess residue everywhere that looks really sh*t.
That and the coating doesn't last anywhere near as long as stated on the product. At best you'll get 2-3 weeks of protection but the downside is these coatings tend to become dust magnets so you end up with a fine layer of brownish dust stuck to your car before long (especially if your car is left outside a lot) that you can easily see clinging to the bonnet when you drive around.
From the spray-on coatings I've tried, the Bowden's Own "Fully Slick" seems to be the easiest to work with and produces the most consistent results but I find I have to layer a spray-on carnauba wax coating first before applying any spray-on ceramic coating, to make it easier to work onto the paint.
The effort required to get a really nice finish with these spray-on coatings is vastly understated by the product marketing and still doesn't compare to a proper cut/polish with an orbital polisher or even a good ol' fashioned waxing.
How much are you using! I use 4 half-sprays (I don't pull the trigger the whole way in) on the bonnet, max and use 1 microfibre cloth to do the whole car, then another clean dry microfibre cloth for a quick over wipe. No issues like you speak of.
Pretty much all of these products will say to apply 2-4 sprays per section (e.g. bonnet, door, etc). After about 8-10 sprays, you need a new cloth.
I use a separate clean cloth to buff but even then, it still needs a lot of elbow grease to get the coating looking even and clear on the paint.
Same experience. Get white spots after rain. Also don't let it get onto the windows. Very hard to remove.
Spray on to an applicator pad instead of directly on the panel. This is what I do when I use Mother's CMX, no streaking issues.
Do not let this stuff dry on your car. Literally wipe on them immediately wipe off. Enough of it remains. It's really hard to buff off and unfortunately when I did my Seal and shine I did it at night in the garage. Ended up with run marks and it's really tough to polish off even with a machine
Yep, this is my experience as well. These coatings are nowhere near as easy to buff out as they're made out to be, especially if they're used as directed in terms of the number of sprays/applications per panel. I find you need to add a bit of water to a clean polishing cloth to get rid of smears/streaks on areas where there's excessive residue but even then, you need to do a solid hour of buffing to get the finish looking good.
I like this too I got mine on sale at super chic I always do it while it is soaking wet and panel by panel I spray only a bit and wipe it dry with sham mee always works a treat I awlays use sham mee no micro fibre as the sham mee is always wet anyways
@10101010101 and @Gnostikos What do you guys recommend to use instead?
For most people, a simple spray-on carnauba wax like Bowden's Own Lazy Wax will achieve a really good result with very little work.
It's much easier to work with compared to ceramic coatings, it's very difficult to over-apply so you can spray and pray all you like and it buffs clear in about 2 or 3 wipes.
You can wax the car in about 30 minutes and have it look as shiny and glossy as if you did a proper orbital polish. Just follow the instructions on the bottle, you can't go wrong.
Thank you. It's non-ceramic though? What's even the appeal of ceramic if it's difficult to apply?
Correct, carnauba wax is old-fashioned palm wax made from the Carnauba tree, that's used to give surfboards grip, polish shoes, shine floors/furniture, waterproof leather and other fabrics and for many other uses. It's tried and tested, it's easier to clean off/remove when you need to and it's a natural product that isn't full of 1001 chemicals that are probably harmful to human health unlike most of these ceramic spray coatings and that may actually degrade your car's paint over time (mainly due to the ridiculous amount of polishing they require).
Ceramic spray-on coatings can last longer than a natural wax although not anywhere near as long as they claim and it depends entirely on your usage. Some can be a blend of natural waxes and synthetic ceramic coatings, theoretically giving you the best of both worlds. Most of them are entirely synthetic though and actually cheaper to make than high-grade carnauba wax products.
The appeal is entirely in the marketing, as is the case with 75% of car care products which don't really do jack sh*t but still sell very well because car enthusiasts are like drug addicts, always hoping to stumble upon a miraculous car cleaning/detailing product that magically makes their cars look better than they actually do.
I'd also argue most of the feedback you see about these spray-on ceramic coatings comes from non-car enthusiasts who are not detailing experts and who really can't tell the difference between a high-quality, streak-free polished shine with no excess residue versus a car that looks like you accidentally spilled cooking oil on it and tried to wipe it off with your ass.
@Gnostikos: Thank you for the detailed reply. I'm new to car detailing. I watched the Project Farm video that @bennybaubles shared earlier up in this thread which compares this Turtle Wax product with 7 other competing products. The Turtle Wax won each test consistently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYxKQwZah1s
So based off that video, I am feeling inclined to try it but obviously I want to take care of my cars paint. I'll have to do more research but I am appreciative of your suggestions.
@thisusernameistaken: Go right ahead mate, you should definitely try it all out for yourself and find the product which works best for you and your car, which is exactly what I said in another comment below actually but just don't expect miracles from these things or for them to last anywhere close to 4 months and be aware, you may be buffing/polishing for a lot longer than you expected to remove those high spots/streaks and it may not leave the nice-looking finish you were expecting, especially if the ceramic coating has set before you've had a chance to buff it properly.
@Gnostikos: Thank you. I've decided to hold off as I'm not ready to wash / detail the car yet but I'll be sure to do more research
caninuba wax are harder to apply,
That's why you use a spray-on carnauba wax, as I specifically mentioned. Yes, the solid waxes or wax pastes/creams are harder to apply correctly and buff out but the liquid, spray-on carnauba waxes are a joy to work with compared to any of these spray-on ceramic coatings.
Try one of these $30 ceramic sprays and buff off straight away. Even use a damp cloth to buff out. A bottle lasts ages so spray on, buff off with a dry microfiber and follow up with another buff with a damp but fully wrung out microfiber. You don't want the cloth to be leaving loads of water behind but the water helps take off the excess.
Even if it removes 80% of the excess itll still leave a layer behind. Let it cure and give it a fortnight to see how you like it. If you think you wiped too much off then try again. Main thing is not to over apply on the first go unless you don't care so much about the finish. I've since started to apply Mr Fix 9/10H instead. Will take my time panel by panel when I get some free time. My car is garged all the time and rarely driven so I'm not overly concerned about having the coating fully applied
Mr Fix 9/10H is easy to get high spots and tough to remove later on.
I have done Mr Fix on my S2000 about 2 years ago, still ok but car is always garaged and hardly driven, I also top up quarterly with CMX spray.
Hopefully you got a legit version and not ones from Aliexpress.
Mothers CMX Ceramic is much better than this and much more easier to buff
Noob question. Does it come off when you wash car? e-g hand wash with sponge and shampoo
Yep, by the time you wash you car again 2-4 weeks after applying one of these coatings, it's mostly or completely lost its hydrophobicity.
That's simply not true. Ive had this coating last 4+ months along with many others.
You've probably got a PPF/ceramic coating on your paint to begin with, in which case, it's your paint that's actually giving you that protection and shine.
95% of a car's paint shine/gloss/protection is in the primer/paint/clear coat and any additional professionally-applied protective coatings.
Spray-on coatings are just a thin smear and they definitely don't last for 4 months. I've never even seen that claim made anywhere for any spray-on detailing product.
If these spray-on coatings don't wash off in a regular wash (which I've never seen happen) then how do you think people are washing their cars after using them?
They don't state anywhere in the product instructions that you need a pressure cleaner to wash the stuff off.
@Gnostikos: https://youtu.be/uYxKQwZah1s?si=5U97aTJEvIaJfoKr
Pretty clearly shows this product lasts a numbers of washes and other treatments. You are spreading false information.
You are spreading false information.
Lol, who is this… the legal team for Turtle Wax? Are you going to send me a cease-and-desist notice?
I'm spreading my own personal experience after having gone through the gammut of these spray-on coatings and using them on several different cars.
They barely protect the paint from a light mist after a few weeks and because of the amount of dust that sticks to them, any water residue that dries on the paint ends up leaving very obvious dried water marks everywhere that look like sh*t.
The guy in your video is just spraying a freshly-coated panel with water a few days post-application and he clearly says the car was garaged the entire time.
That's not exactly the same as washing a car after a few weeks post-application after it's been driven and exposed to the elements for a long time.
Seriously… do you think these products can't be washed off or something? If they worked that well the manufacturers would be screwing themselves out of repeat business.
@Gnostikos: You didn't even watch the video, he did far more then sprinkle some water on them.
Educate yourself.
The product is rated 4.8 on google with most of the thousands of reviews having months of coverage, yet you in your wisdom think this is all a conspiracy and ceramic coatings are make believe?
Educate yourself.
Yeah I do. Through personal experience.
Not via chugging the marketing Kool Aid of for-profit corporations who want to sell you more questionable products.
If these spray-on coatings worked anywhere near as well as you're claiming the detailing industry would be using them. Go speak to any detailing shop or panel beater worth their salt and ask them what they use. You won't be able to find those products at SCA, I guarantee you.
But yes, your argument is sound. A random man on YouTube tests one panel on a random car of unknown paint type with some sprays in a very controlled environment and that definitely proves that these spray-on ceramic coatings will last on all cars and in all conditions for 4 months, lol. You've got some Kool Aid on your shirt there.
The product is rated 4.8 on google with most of the thousands of reviews having months of coverage, yet you in your wisdom think this is all a conspiracy and ceramic coatings are make believe?
What I said here:
I'd also argue most of the feedback you see about these spray-on ceramic coatings comes from non-car enthusiasts who are not detailing experts and who really can't tell the difference between a high-quality, streak-free polished shine with no excess residue versus a car that looks like you accidentally spilled cooking oil on it and tried to wipe it off with your ass.
@Gnostikos: Where did I claim it works as well as a professional grade product that would be suitable to charge $1000s for the application?
I stated the product lasted 4 months on my car, in fact the coating was still ok at 4 months but I reapplied anyway.
I have provided evidence of the products durability, you have provided an opinion backed by nothing.
Also amazing you have never heard of projectfarm.
I suspect you are one of these detailers charging $1000s and feel threatened by consumer products.
@velcrochicken: Dear God, you clearly missed your true calling in life being a glorified wax salesman…
I have provided evidence of the products durability, you have provided an opinion backed by nothing.
You've provided a marketing campaign for Turtle Wax that sounds like it's lifted from their website.
I've provided my own experience using this Turtle Wax product on several vehicles as well as other similar products from other brands,
I don't give two sh*ts if that doesn't satisfy your ridiculously high, courtroom-level burdens of proof nor do I care what some YouTuber's completely out-of-context, not-applicable-to-everyone demonstration means to you.
The only person coming across like an industry shill here is YOU, who keeps trying to relentlessly convince me of the effectiveness of a product I've tried myself and found to be completely lacklustre manufactured by a corporation who's number one priority is selling as much product as they can, at the expense of everything else including quality.
The entire car care industry is full of smoke and mirrors and gullible fools and you're a perfect example of both.
Also amazing you have never heard of projectfarm.
Probably because I prefer to try things out for myself instead just taking the word of people on the Internet at face value.
I suspect you are one of these detailers charging $1000s and feel threatened by consumer products.
Cute assumption but no, I'm big a proponent of leaving the serious work to the professionals and not cheapening out by trying to use glorified beeswax mixed with polymers and thinking it'll protect my paint for months and months on end as well as a professionally-applied ceramic coating.
I'm also big proponent of not wasting my money on snake oil products that promise the world and deliver nothing.
Does this hybrid wax work less effective if I had used a wash n wax? Presumably the wax layer would interfere with this hybrid ceramic coating?
Best to avoid layering. Just go for one layer of something that adds shine and slickness to repel water and dirt. Apply another layer once the first one loses its effectiveness. Obviously if you have a show car or super car then invest more time in researching and higher regarded products. But I'd argue for any car under say $100k then this is fine
You can layer it, some people do a ceramic and then a traditional carnuba wax on top because of the finish, but they thing is to have the tougher coating on first, then layer with the softer coating.
Layering might help with gloss and depth but makes no sense for dirt and water repelling.
Cheap spray on coatings are fine as are cheap ceramic coatings. For less than $5 you can DIY coat with Mr Fix 9H or equivalent and you have a layer of protection that helps bead water and repel dirt. This $5 job vs $1000 from a pro detailer is never going to compete but for the average person and even enthusiast with low budget to spend it's a no brainer. Is your pro $1000 job going to be 200 times better than a DIY job? Most definitely not for most people. If you have a car that's worth upwards of $100k then you might want to or be willing to spend more. But for everyone else just try it out. Follow the YouTube guides and you'll be happy with spending less than $5 per complete car application.
where do you buy the Mr Fix from?
just ordered 5 bottles for $28 from fleabay - keen to try it
Just did one layer of turtlewax and it works pretty good too.
Please don't use 5 bottles on one car! Half a bottle is enough for a regular sedan. Even on a large SUV I don't think you'd need the full amount. I'd avoid glass as if you get it wrong it's hard to remove and will impact driving visibility
looked around and can't figure out what is a "genuine" product. this review suggests not worth the risk
https://www.carceramiccoating.com/9h-mr-fix-nano-ceramic-coa…
I think I'll stick to Hybrid Solutions (Turtle) as that seems to have the best expert and user reviews overall
It's worth a shot on one panel. Beware of car detailing sites trying to bash cheaper products whilst receiving kickbacks on other products.
eBay or AliExpress are good sources of the Mr Fix range.
Here's a good test on hardness - apply some onto a wipe or cloth and let it cure. Compare that with a spray on product and you'll find the Mr Fix formula makes the cloth quite stiff once dried.
Again this isn't proof that Mr Fix is better than other products but for the cost it's hard to ignore.
I'll repeat it here…
Mr Fix 9/10H is easy to get high spots and tough to remove later on if not applied correctly.
I have done Mr Fix on my S2000 about 2 years ago, still ok but car is always garaged and hardly driven, I also top up quarterly with CMX spray.
Hopefully you get a legit version and not ones from Aliexpress, I wouldn't risk a $5 coating on my car's paint.
Legit versions all come from China. No idea how you can tell what is legit or not. I bought my original bottle from eBay from memory many years ago and a new bottle recently from AliExpress. New bottle results seem consistent with the old bottle.
Agree to be careful and have a damp fully wrung microfiber available to wipe off excess and remove high spots.
Edit: also if you screw it up and have smears, try repeating an application on top of the smear and buff off immediately. Worked for me and saved me from busting out a electric polisher pad to cut and polish it. I did this several days after original application and once the original coat had fully cured
I have this as well as the wax & dry and find they're excellent. Far quicker to use than traditional paste-style waxes or polishes with pretty much the same results. I would probably buy the cheaper wax & dry unless I found a very good special on the ceramic one (like this price)