Knowing you Scotty - that won’t happen!

Anyway, we need to do something about it because this has happened before?

It sorta sucks, I’m just furious that people are ruining other people’s chances.

This is the one thing that sucks with a community based site like this, everything else is just amazing.

You are the one being ridiculous. Do you want your IP banned again (as well as your other friends?)

Is it not working or are you just abusing it?

We wouldn’t have to if people would respect the site.

No offense osim, but you are. I’ve seen you voting negatives for other offers with trivial reasons, but you get defensive when people do it on yours.

Example:

http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/4602 - you voted negative just because free $10 voucher is too little?

and yet,

http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/4556 - you get defensive when someone said 7ml is too little.

Very contradicting.

Does Whirlpool’s aura system automatically bans a person? Maybe I haven’t trolled enough there to find out :) I’ll put that on my todo…

I’m not sure about a ban, but that gives you some idea of what you could possible do. Also keeps your job simpler. Letting majority of the members preventing abuse of the website can be potentially effective. :)

Whirlpool’s aura system has no formal effect on users (other than that a certain level must be possessed for a user to access “The Pool Room” sub-forum). Aura simply reflects other users’ opinions of a person - and it isn’t even shown by default; only your vote of a person is shown next to their username.

Aura is an entertaining oddity but I don’t think OzBargain needs a similar system or “Aura on steroids”. The moderators have powers for a reason.

Some merit to that, maybe a flag to the mods/scotty so that he or we can turnoff someone’s ability to make negative votes for a while, that is we look at the comments and see if they have another purpose in mind. That way they can still make comments just not influence the voting.

Exactly, suspending voting would suffice, not comments. Actually, I think suspend them from posting new offers would also be a good idea, given that there have been way too many spam-style posts recently. Not naming any names, but this appears to be the case with repeated daily offers of some sites. Each time the deal is repeated, a new post is created.

With “spams”, we already have the ability to ban the entire domain which is much more effective than banning a specific individual, as they can always create another account.

Now we could implement something that automatically bans a domain for a period of time, if it gets too many negative votes (over a specific period of time again).

dont you mean if it gives too many? or have I missed your point?

This is a great discussion

Glad to know such functionality is already available. Now let’s just hope it wouldn’t be too hard to ban an entire IP from voting. :)

I don’t think the Whirlpool Aura system bans people. If you get enough Aura, you get access to the The Pool Room (TPR). TPR is the basically any offtopic discussions.

firstly thank you neil. I don’t think i am giving negative votes for flase reasons. I think I have the right to warn someone if the deal is bad. Everyone have a different point of view towards different issues.

How can you have a point of view that an offer is expired when it’s not expired? And why do you need to warn someone something is expired when it clearly says EXPIRED?

well the deal didn’t work for me so it must be expired.

Please have a read of ozpete’s note, specifically “If its no longer available, a comment should suffice, then a moderator like Jeffery, Scotty or I can change the posting. Or the original poster can do that. So leave the moderating to the mods”

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As for voting negative on an expired deal, that really isn’t necessary.

1. if its expired it will be listed as such - ie there is a date field If thats correctly filled in, then no need to give ita negative
2. If its no longer available, a comment should suffice, then a moderator like Jeffery, Scotty or I can change the posting. Or the original poster can do that. So leave the moderating to the mods.

If say you suspect there was no stock ever then thats different matter. But be careful please. Negative votes not justified can deter people from posting a deal, just like no votes do. If I find a posting gets no votes for a particular item, I’ll probably say people here aren’t interested and wont post something similar again. Likewise a lot of positives tells me that this is something people here value and I’ll share similar again.

Also a deal one week may not be a deal next week as a competitive offer now exists. Is your negative vote appropriate as it was a good deal originally. Likewise it may draw out comments from others on better offers, so that helps us all.

If a deal is expired and the mods or original poster dont update the posting after a reasonable time, then a negative vote might be appropriate. Then a comment like “its expired 3 days ago” and a -ve vote, would be appropriate.

All the above is MY personal opinion, not official OZb policy.

osim, this is a community and frankly if you are upsetting people with your actions, if i wasn’t a moderator, I probably would have gone thru all your posts and made a dumb negative comment as well, just to give you a message, like Rhys might have done - but that’s a guess on my behalf.

we want to encourage deals not put people off. Look at the post I made about the 4gb usb drives, that’s encouraged Dan to come up with a better deal, one that he makes some money on, and we make a saving, so we all gain - an NO negative vote was needed.

Too wrongs don’t make a right mate, don’t try and put all the blame on somebody else.

Miccas point taken - and it was wrong of me to assume why Rhy’s voted the way he did - I have edited my post

Sorry man, that was actually directed at osim.

But yeah, it would be pointless for ANYONE to go around posting like that, let alone one person (osim).

It’s a pity that scotty puts money into this and we have a few people who want to put other deals down because they want theirs to win. In the end, if your deal is good enough then it will win. There is no point in cheating.

That’s true and that’s definitely not worth a -. How can one complain if its free?

But respond to the Jeans West deal http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/4602

You say expired then say..it’s not enough?

But he’s very desperated for $20! :)