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OMEN 25L PC: i7-14700F, 16GB, 1TB SSD, 1TB HDD, RTX 4070 12GB $1895.20 Delivered @ HP Official eBay

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OMEN 25L TWR | i7-14700F | 16GB | 1TBSSD + 1TB HDD | RTX 4070 12GB | Black TF

Not as good as the 32GB, 4070ti offer they had last month but still pretty good. i7-14700F, RTX 4070 prebuilt for under $2K. Rough plug into PCPartPicker looks to be around the same value.

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  • +7

    Techfast are offering a 7800X3D and RTX 4070 Ti Super build for about $200 more delivered… much better value proposition.

    Similarly, they have a 7500F and RTX 4070 Super build for $350 less if you're on a budget.

  • -2

    Sorry, why does it show 2300 on my website?

    • +1

      Did you apply the code at checkout?

      • Thanks. Didn't notice it.

  • +8

    Minus the part where you're not stuck with a shitbox convection oven case and a proprietary form factor board with VRMs that are hanging on to dear life. These crappy vendor prebuilt lost all value when GPU aren't being scalped to high heaven anymore.

    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU Intel Core i5-14600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor $429.00 @ Centre Com
    CPU Cooler Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler $54.90
    Motherboard Gigabyte Z690 AORUS PRO DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard $249.00
    Memory Patriot Viper Steel 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $98.00 @ Amazon Australia
    Storage Patriot P310 1.92 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive $137.00 @ Amazon Australia
    Video Card PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card $849.00 @ Centre Com
    Case Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case $129.00 @ Centre Com
    Power Supply Cooler Master MWE Bronze V2 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $115.00 @ Amazon Australia
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total $2060.90
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-16 12:53 AEST+1000

    For $200 more you get a B+ tier PSU, a well ventilated case and a better CPU (+ cooler) and board. Or just grab one of the Techfast build.

    • +2

      This PC has DDR5 memory and PCIe 4.0 SSD vs the specs in your partpicker list, I purchased the 32GB RAM and 4070Ti version a few weeks back, I replaced the stock CPU cooler with a Thermalright SI-100 pretty much straightaway as the stock cooler was loud and the CPU was getting too hot for my liking, since then I've had no noise or overheating issues.

    • This looks like the PC in question?

      Is it really a proprietary form factor board? Looks like mATX.
      PSU is a Cooler Master 80+ Gold 600W, not sure which exact model.

      It's also an i7-14700F rather than an i5-14600KF.

      and plain green sticks are what you're getting with these kind of systems

      Do we get different sticks here? The video shows Kingston Fury Beast sticks.

      • 14700F has more cores but also has a much tighter power limit, while also being stuck in a thermally limited environment of the hotbox case, so in practice you're going to get more in-game performance out of the 14600KF.

        Thanks for the correction on the case, at least you can transplant the board to a non-hotbox, but I still would not recommend touching this thing unless its cheap enough to cover for the cost of the case (and probably CPU cooler) as well.

        As for the PSU 80+ Gold is just the efficiency rating, it doesn't ensure the quality of the PSU itself.

        • while also being stuck in a thermally limited environment of the hotbox case,

          How hot is this case in reality?

          As for the PSU 80+ Gold is just the efficiency rating, it doesn't ensure the quality of the PSU itself.

          Yes, but I would expect a power supply that has been designed to be very efficient would have more thought put into the design and component choice. Are there C-tier Cooler Master 80+ Gold PSUs?

          • @eug: Solid front and tiny side vents, so your bog standard hotbox. There's a good reason why manufacturers moved away from making NZXT H510 (the daddy of hotboxes) clones to making Lian Li O11 clones, as well as mesh front becoming trendy.

            Yes, but I would expect a power supply that has been designed to be very efficient would have more thought put into the design and component choice. Are there C-tier Cooler Master 80+ Gold PSUs?

            That's not really the case unfortunately, there's a lot of horrendous "REPLACE ASAP" tier PSU with a 80+ Gold rating. C-tier is still fine for low end system, and technically passable, but on a $2000 PC you expect something better. Especially if you're building yourself, as case and PSU is something that can carry over to the next build. CM's 80+ Gold lineup has a couple of untested models that don't tier.

            • @[Deactivated]:

              Solid front and tiny side vents, so your bog standard hotbox.

              That's fair; however I'd still be interested to see how an i5-12600KF compares to this specific i7-14700F machine.

              That's not really the case unfortunately, there's a lot of horrendous "REPLACE ASAP" tier PSU with a 80+ Gold rating.

              OK, but the important question is how does this specific one perform? It'd be unfair to say this PSU is poor quality when you don't even know what PSU it is.

              • @eug:

                I'd still be interested to see how an i5-12600KF compares to this specific i7-14700F machine.

                12600KF + 4070 Super/7900GRE is a much saner combo for gaming. Vendor prebuilt and laptops has a nasty habit of combining a very overkill CPU with a underpowered or mid GPU (hello i9 with a 3050), probably because uninformed users are trained to see i7/i9 = good i5 = bad. 14600KF 4070 vs 14700F 4070 is 14600KF favored for gaming due to the higher peak and sustained clock speed owing to the higher power limit + better cooling, but the 14700F will be better for heavy multi-thread due to it having more cores. 14600K and 14700K are near identical in gaming performance, as games don't really make use of the extra cores, and the 14700F is throttled by its power limit. But the real competitor in this price bracket is the 12600KF and the 7600, because both of them will allow you to go up a PSU tier, which will get you more performance in games (minus the usual CPU-bottlenecked crew like EFT/Stellaris/WoW/etc…)

                There's also the recent BYO GPU deals. Nebula's 7500F deal for $848 let you squeeze a 4070 Ti Super into ~2k, and matches this deal with a 4070 Super.

                OK, but the important question is how does this specific one perform? It'd be unfair to say this PSU is poor quality when you don't even know what PSU it is.

                Notice how I actually don't bring up the HP's PSU in my original post, only the hotbox case and the poor vendor board with bad VRM (but at least its standard mATX so you can rehouse it and add a decent downdraft as life support), only that the CM PSU in the list I specified is B+ ranking, because in that case you know exactly what you're going to get rather than a mystery meat black box.

                • +1

                  @[Deactivated]:

                  Vendor prebuilt and laptops has a nasty habit of combining a very overkill CPU with a underpowered or mid GPU (hello i9 with a 3050), probably because uninformed users are trained to see i7/i9 = good i5 = bad.

                  I understand that, but when I read your original post it felt like you were simply generalising all prebuilts and did not actually know much about this specific machine. That is why I was curious and started looking into it a bit more.

                  • You said it was a proprietary form factor board, it looks to be mATX
                  • You say the VRMs are hanging on to dear life, but you don't actually know what board it is
                  • You say the RAM are generic green sticks when they are Kingston Fury Beast sticks
                  • You say with your list you get a B+ tier PSU (I took that to imply the one that comes with this machine is inferior), but you don't actually know what PSU it is

                  I've always built my own machines as I prefer the ability to choose the parts and features that I want so I understand what you're saying, but I feel it's important to be fair and at least reasonably accurate when putting down other products. LTT got in big trouble for that last year as we all know.

                  • @eug: The point of all of my post is that there is no reason to be playing mystery meat lottery with a prebuilt, in a market where they have a long history of being horrendously bad when you can get actually known good part for a little extra. Yes the board might be standard ATX for once (which I even said so in my initial reply), but its very likely going to have shit VRM still because they're still sticking a 14700F onto it rather than a 14700KF. It might be a branded stick for once, but the spec sheet still state that its DDR5-4800, so its no different to the generic green stick aside from a "gamer aesthetic" heatsink.

                    I took that to imply the one that comes with this machine is inferior

                    And now you're just putting word in my mouth.

                    • @[Deactivated]:

                      The point of all of my post is that there is no reason to be playing mystery meat lottery with a prebuilt, in a market where they have a long history of being horrendously bad

                      Yup I understand that, but as I mentioned earlier, you were just painting all prebuilts with the same brush. This prebuilt is different to previous ones as we've seen so it seemed unfair or lazy to simply dismiss it completely without actually looking at it first. From a quick look it definitely doesn't look as bad as other prebuilts from the past so it looks like it's actually worth considering for some people.

                      when you can get actually known good part for a little extra.

                      That's assuming the user knows how to build a PC, has time to shop everywhere or pay for shipping, plus the cost of a Windows licence. These prebuilts definitely aren't aimed at that market. Getting someone to build and support a computer for you will always cost a bit of money.

                      And now you're just putting word in my mouth.

                      Sorry I misunderstood; but when you give a whole list of parts you say will be better which includes a PSU, the implied meaning is that the PSU is also better.

                      • @eug: lol i bought 40l 14700f 4090 3 weeks ago. there are parts can be better but it runs with zero issue. plug in, register windows and all good to go. mine is gold+ 1200w. i can customize and go through all the shit to make a better pc but i'd rather not to.

    • Plus a Windows licence.

      Plus labour to build it.

      That list is from separate retailers? Got to get the stuff.

      OEM’s have whole system warranty.

      I just don’t have time to build or shop around anymore. I’ll be getting one of these deals when the time is right, for a certain buyer they can’t be beaten.

      • And you can get all of that from a trusted SI around here like Techfast/BPC/Nebula/Enigma/etc… which I've said multiple time in this comment chain. Even if you don't want to build it yourself, there's no reason to be spending money on a hodgepodge mystery meat PC. Techfast is the cheapest and usually has the lowest quality mobo/PSU/etc…, that's how they compete in price (but at least you know exactly what you're getting and can decide for yourself, while also having upgrade options available), but there are other builders around here that offer deals with better quality components. comes with a Windows license, offer warranty on the whole thing, and are usually cheaper than building it yourself to boot.

        HP/Dell/etc.. makes money off people who has no idea what they're buying and will get baited (and overcharge for) by bigger advertising numbers (i7!!! DDR5!!!!) rather than put in the bare minimum research. Not exactly a bargain. When the state of the market was that you can't even buy a GPU at MSRP due to crypto scalper, you take what you can get, but that's no longer the case.

  • At first, I thought it was a 25-litre case, but after checking the picture, it's just the model number.

  • +2

    another note is that the bios's in these are generally quite poor in regards to configuration options - which can be a big performance deal with Intel CPU's as they work on boost limits and time to reach max performance.

    Personally wouldnt go for one of these

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