Bonus 7kW Wallbox Charger (First 3,000 Orders, Worth $1,000) with BYD Sealion 6 PHEV (from $48,990 + On-Road Cost) @ BYD

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Bonus 7kW Wallbox Charger (First 3,000 Orders, Worth $1,000) with BYD Sealion 6 PHEV (from $48,990 + On-Road Cost) @ BYD
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PinzVidz on 19/05/2024 - 12:16 bydautomotive.com.au (9286 clicks)
Last edited 20/05/2024 - 20:37 by 1 other user

BYD announced their Sealion 6 plug-in hybrid this week and are offering a complimentary 7kW wallbox charger worth $1K RRP for the first 3000 orders. Includes 3m type 2 cable. Excludes installation.

Sealion 6 prices;
Dynamic $48,990 plus on roads
Premium AWD $52,990 plus on roads

This is BYD's first foray into PHEV in Australia, and even for this "skeptical about Chinese cars thinker" here, I'm pretty impressed with the specs and prices of the Sealion 6. Seriously considering the Premium, claimed 5.9 secs 0-100, EV range of roughly 80km and petrol/electric range of over 1000km.

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    • eggaz on 19/05/2024 - 12:26
      +53

      Who would have thought… a manufacturer used specifications to sell their products… lol

    • Jamesx on 19/05/2024 - 19:25

      Are you a whore living in a core for 5 years?

  • eggaz on 19/05/2024 - 12:23
    +31

    Went and had a look at the Sealion 6 yesterday at BYD and it looks amazing… If only they had the full electric variant in Australia, I would be all over it.

    • Mesky on 19/05/2024 - 12:35
      +11

      Yeah, it would be good as a hybrid or EV. A plug-in hybrid isn't great. It has the complexities of both engine types, and from a quick Google search, PHEVs have 146% more issues.

      • willyroo on 19/05/2024 - 13:44
        +18

        146%

        86.94% of statistics are made up on the spot :)

      • Pacify on 19/05/2024 - 14:10
        +14

        I don't know, plug in hybrids seem to make more sense than straight hybrids to me, allows you to run purely on EV mode if you don't do a lot of kms, while normal hybrids jump into petrol mode over a certain speed

        • BargainMe on 19/05/2024 - 17:28
          +12

          The problem for people that don't do many kms is that they would basically never have a need to use the ICE motor, then you get all the issues that go with the ICE motor not getting enough use and the servicing costs, seems simpler to just go full EV.

          • Jamesx on 19/05/2024 - 19:30
            +3

            @BargainMe: People who don't drive that much, should have EV not PHEV. The range anxiety for most drivers are only a concern, not reality if you actually own an EV.

        • ColtNoir on 20/05/2024 - 14:18

          As someone who was keen on a PHEV the extra weight from having both an engine and a battery isn’t worth it for me not being based in Sydney anymore.

          The power combo is often spruiked for them when using both engines as needed but halfway to Sydney and I’ll be running on just petrol, ending up using more fuel in the long run.

          For a city runabout and a holiday style car it would be good but any somewhat frequent highway driving and you’re prob not getting the benefits you’d want. I’d rather commit to full EV than go PHEV myself.

          (This opinion was formed mainly researching the Mazda CX-60 PHEV)

          • arcticmonkey on 20/05/2024 - 21:50

            @ColtNoir: Good point. What's the fuel economy on just the normal tank?

            • ColtNoir on 27/05/2024 - 11:29

              @arcticmonkey: I don’t remember off the top of my head but it’s a 2.5L engine lugging around 1.9ish tonnes.

      • MrMcHairyHead on 19/05/2024 - 14:12
        -3

        And you never know when they might bring back something like Victoria's EV tax and make them stupidly expensive to run

        • canAdeladian on 19/05/2024 - 15:14
          +4

          Didn't that tax equate to like $24 a month?

          Bit of a stretch to call that stupidly expensive.

          • MKBHD on 19/05/2024 - 16:40
            +1

            @canAdeladian: Not the EV tax NZ has introduced, it is far more expensive. Only matter of time till we go that direction.

            • z28 on 19/05/2024 - 17:15

              @MKBHD: In the meantime, we have the dirty emission tax coming soon.

          • tunzafun001 on 19/05/2024 - 20:07
            +1

            @canAdeladian: The Tim Pallas Muppet Mania tax cost me $25 a trip!

            I do a 500km each way drive every weekend. Most of that was petrol use anyway… and a $25 EV tax on top.

            The tax was introduced as a total lie (in the minutes he says EVs and PHEVs have "no running costs".

            He should have done jail time. The amount of money he has now wasted (and time)..and all based on pure stupid!

            • arcticmonkey on 20/05/2024 - 06:57
              -3

              @tunzafun001: Lol. What about the Liberals trillion dollars of debt and mismanagement?

    • krisspy on 19/05/2024 - 13:02

      I think that's going to be the seal 7 coming in a year or two, sales rep I spoke to didn't have info whether it's coming to aus though

      • gwong on 19/05/2024 - 17:44

        Sea Lion 07

      • topgunthang on 20/05/2024 - 12:04

        going to guess they will get it in as a surprise before the new model Y comes 2H2024. rumors say June.

    • Opaquer on 19/05/2024 - 13:02
      +1

      I could be wrong but I think the fully electric version is coming here next year? Obviously no specs or anything yet, but something to keep an eye out? Also, I could be thinking of the ute - might need to double check

      Edit: I did a super 30 second google and maybe I was thinking of the ute?

      • gwong on 19/05/2024 - 17:44
        +1

        Sea Lion 07

      • Juice08 on 19/05/2024 - 18:18
        +1

        Username checks out.

    • FeZZa21 on 19/05/2024 - 13:51
      +8

      Sealion 7 EV should be coming here in 2025 since it's getting released in NZ at the end of 2024. If it does, I'll be getting it as my first EV

      • eggaz on 19/05/2024 - 14:03
        +1

        The sales rep mentioned there "might" be an all electric version of the Sealion headed to AUS, and a BYD 7 seater variant similar to a KIA Carnival stye… but it was a maybe and he couldn't confirm much else. I know this is pure speculation, but if a full EV Sealion or a BYD 7 seater (Tang potentially) is headed our way that would be enough for me to pull the trigger.

      • gwong on 19/05/2024 - 17:48

        Yeah looks like a winner. Hopefully gets here early 2025.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPOrD9-Ji2o&ab_channel=Chine…

    • JoelT on 19/05/2024 - 17:19

      Where did you see it at? Our local BYD dealer told us they expect all display rooms to get them in about 2 weeks time.

      • eggaz on 19/05/2024 - 18:00
        +1

        Dandenong, VIC, it arrived a couple of days ago. Apparently only 2 dealerships in VIC (or AU, can't remember) have them on display. No test drive vehicle's available for a few weeks apparently.

        • fzncloud on 20/05/2024 - 11:39
          +1

          You saw the Sea Lion in the Dandenong Branch? I went there to test drive the Seal on Friday and there was no Sea Lion to look at. I called this morning and they said there is no Sea Lion to see for another 2 weeks. :/

          • eggaz on 20/05/2024 - 14:09

            @fzncloud: It was at the BYD in Dandenong on Saturday afternoon. They said its not available for test drive as it was setup for display / demo, but they expect a test drive car to be there within two weeks.

          • eggaz on 21/05/2024 - 08:57
            +1

            @fzncloud: Thought I would share. I just got a text message this morning from BYD Dandenong and the Sealion 6 is now available for test drive.

            • fzncloud on 23/05/2024 - 09:11

              @eggaz: Thank you! Will go snipe a test drive shortly. :)

  • eddieaus on 19/05/2024 - 12:29
    +23

    20k more than the Chinese version

    • Brick Tamland on 19/05/2024 - 12:52
      -1

      Australia is the cash cow market for Chinese cars. Thats why they are falling over themselves to sell cars here

      • RooBun on 19/05/2024 - 13:01
        +44

        Australia has been the cash cow market for every car company, since a long time ago.

      • Frozensage on 19/05/2024 - 13:01

        pretty sure it's a thing called 'tarriff'

        • Brick Tamland on 19/05/2024 - 13:08
          +15

          Free trade agreement - no tariffs, just pure gravy

          • McGeeski on 19/05/2024 - 13:37
            +1

            @Brick Tamland: No tariffs but luxury car tax in Australia increase the price for new vehicle.

            • Brick Tamland on 19/05/2024 - 13:42
              +3

              @McGeeski: Which applies to every car imported or built domestically. Different to a Tariff. LCT can also apply to used cars. Quite different. Also LCT was designed to replace the wholesale tax. Whereas a tariff is to protect local industries.

          • BewareOfThe Dog on 19/05/2024 - 18:51
            +1

            @Brick Tamland: Biden just raised Tarriffs on Chinese vehicles (Unsure about Tesla)

            • Brick Tamland on 19/05/2024 - 19:24

              @BewareOfThe Dog: Yeah, they have a huge local industry to protect, makes sense for them. Doesn't affect Tesla because US gets American made Tesla

              • BewareOfThe Dog on 19/05/2024 - 19:27
                -2

                @Brick Tamland: Thank you for clearing that up.

                They should do the same on Chinese made iphones and smartphones.

              • 0806449 on 20/05/2024 - 12:55

                @Brick Tamland: They've got round that by setting up manufacturing in Mexico.

            • Wayne7497 on 20/05/2024 - 00:08
              +1

              @BewareOfThe Dog: 100% Tarriff on Chinese evs in usa Europe will follow suit, makes no difference really no one in usa or Europe are buying evs. 393 byds sold in Germany this year.

              It be good bet those high tariffs will end up here in Australia even though we have no auto industry to protect.

              • beach bum on 20/05/2024 - 04:23

                @Wayne7497: Cars in general are not selling , there is a world wide recession on , whether you personally feel it yet or not.

        • rooster7777 on 19/05/2024 - 13:17
          +4

          pretty sure your "tarriff" (sic) has NOT been a "thing" in australia for decades.

      • Corgirun on 19/05/2024 - 13:01
        +8

        You may want to check the other brands too. Toyota, Hyundai, Mazda, BMW… Australia is the cash cow market for all of them

    • DoyA on 19/05/2024 - 13:13
      +1

      What is not much cheaper in China though?

    • YRT on 19/05/2024 - 13:38

      And while BYD / Evdirect is making serious money, Europe calls it subsidised crying unfair competition lol

      • Wayne7497 on 20/05/2024 - 00:09
        -1

        It is when every Chinese ev is subsidised by 10000 usd per vehicle by their Government, how could any car maker compete ?

        • khell on 20/05/2024 - 02:19
          +1

          Any car built in China including Teslas received subsidies from the government. Emphasis on past tense as these subsidies have long since ceased. Chinese manufacturers have achieved superior supply chains of scale, and like any free market the ones who innovate the hardest win.

          • beach bum on 20/05/2024 - 04:28

            @khell: They don’t get cash from their government every time they sell a car , directly into their bank account?
            That’s not what I hear about subsidies for BYD and the rest when they sell a car overseas .

          • Wayne7497 on 20/05/2024 - 12:06
            -1

            @khell: Complete rubbish subsidies are still paid

            • khell on 20/05/2024 - 12:15

              @Wayne7497: Then prove it with actual sources. Until then you’re just regurgitating bullshit you saw from equally bullshit YouTube videos (your other posts in this deal).

              @beach bum Not sure if sarcasm.

              • Wayne7497 on 20/05/2024 - 12:28
                -1

                @khell: Bullshit youtube videos? Lol you really are naive. Buy your byd , your choice your consequences.

                https://reason.com/2024/04/29/china-is-doubling-down-on-elec…

                • khell on 20/05/2024 - 12:44
                  +1

                  @Wayne7497: Your article is an article of another article all without sources. Where is your source of “10000 usd per vehicle”? I think the “naive” one here is you, believing mainstream media with an agenda to push and YouTubers looking to cash in on the “China bad” crowd are actually telling the truth.

                  I’ll buy my BYD and indeed enjoy the savings. Not this one though - PHEVs are not worth it. The only way the world’s largest car manufacturer and car battery supplier will prove my purchase wrong is protectionism from western governments whose companies have failed to innovate (the entire US auto industry) and nothing at all to do with free market forces.

        • TightAl on 20/05/2024 - 09:29
          +1

          Every car maker is subsidised in every corner of the world. Are you daft?

          • Wayne7497 on 20/05/2024 - 12:07
            -1

            @TightAl: Not to the extent chinese evs are not even close

            • TightAl on 20/05/2024 - 17:20

              @Wayne7497: You got zero substance to back that up. You'll only realise how wrong you are.

    • May4th on 19/05/2024 - 14:03
      +3

      Look up economies of scale, there's cost of logistics compliance tax(gst) and regulatory costs, and then after all that they look at the competition. The chinese price isn't comparable, you're never going to get it for 36k

      • Brick Tamland on 19/05/2024 - 19:23
        -2

        The seller doesnt pay the GST so its not a cost to the maker

        • May4th on 19/05/2024 - 23:01

          it adds to the price that the initial poster is quoting, so…

          • Brick Tamland on 20/05/2024 - 08:19
            -1

            @May4th: It was framed as a cost to the seller along with logistics.

            • May4th on 20/05/2024 - 08:29

              @Brick Tamland: not really it wasn't, it was a discussion about price here and in China and the factors that goes into it, not manufacturer cost or profit margin. whether the cost is incurred by the consumer or BYD is irrelevant

              • Brick Tamland on 20/05/2024 - 08:32
                +2

                @May4th: China’s GST is 13% so it should translate here as cheaper

    • JIMB0 on 19/05/2024 - 14:29
      +25

      In China you can buy a corolla cross hybrid for less than $25k and have it next week. Here in Australia you have to pay $38k and wait 10 months. There's no shortage, they're just drip feeding the market to maximise profits.

    • mechx on 19/05/2024 - 16:33

      EV indirect

    • TightAl on 20/05/2024 - 09:27

      Do you do the same calculations with German, Japanese cars? lmao what

  • catbin on 19/05/2024 - 12:30
    +8

    $48990 is still too expensive given that they are only about $36000 in China.

    • NoBargainNoLife on 19/05/2024 - 12:44
      +18

      True but seems the norm here. Tesla model 3 selling around 40k in China while 60k here. Whom to complain?

      • xrailgun on 19/05/2024 - 13:16
        +11

        Free market will sort itself out when Geely and Zeekr arrive… (maybe hopium)

        Either way the launch promotions are never the best deals. Cars go much cheaper a year or 2 in. The charger isn't really worth $1K anyway.

        • Creamsoda on 19/05/2024 - 13:20
          +7

          Don't forget Xpeng, Aion, Leapmotor, Jaecoo all launching late this year.

          • xrailgun on 19/05/2024 - 13:21
            +7

            @Creamsoda: late 2025/eofy 2026 going to be great for getting a car :D

        • Bigboomboom on 19/05/2024 - 16:59
          +1

          Don't forget Novated Lease benefit ending April 2025. We got the Atto 3 ER for $45,000 after NSW EV rebate back in 2023, and the "demo" now is $45,990 D/A. While price will go down, so will rebate and benefit.

          • Bargain-er on 19/05/2024 - 21:00

            @Bigboomboom: May i know what s the difference between EV novated lease benefits vs the normal one via company salary sacrifice? Thanks

            • Bigboomboom on 19/05/2024 - 21:26

              @Bargain-er: FBT Exemption for PHEV/EV.

            • Wiede on 20/05/2024 - 07:48
              +1

              @Bargain-er: They are the same thing (Novated Lease is Salary Sacrifice). No FBT for PHEV till 2025 and for EV it is 2027 (they might extend this one). The impact is pretty huge and kinda resulted in basically paying less than 0% interest for a car (after running costs are included).

              • Bargain-er on 20/05/2024 - 08:08
                +1

                @Wiede: Did a quick utube explanation. FBT exemption benefit is more for employers? Thanks

                • Wiede on 20/05/2024 - 13:28

                  @Bargain-er: I am unsure what you mean. FBT exemption is for employers with the end benefit to you. Employers not being charged FBT means you don't have to pay FBT. But you can only do novated leasing if your emplyers offering it as this is a 3 way agreement between you, your employer and your novated leasing company.

                • Wiede on 20/05/2024 - 13:29

                  @Bargain-er: This Youtube video does a better way explaining things

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXkesMUcN-s

        • MaxD on 20/05/2024 - 01:36

          "The current BYD Atto 3 has been priced from $48,011 to $51,011 plus on-road costs since late 2022, when prices increased by $3630 months after the first deliveries."

          Sometimes the launch price is the best price. Add to that several states removed their $3000 incentives, making the difference between the initial price and the current price not insignificant.

          BYD (the manufacturer) make about $1500 profit per car so the usual pricing structures used by legacy manufacturers may not be applicable.
          That said I hope everyone gets to buy a car for 5 grand less in a year or two.

          • xrailgun on 20/05/2024 - 12:02

            @MaxD:

            "The current BYD Atto 3 has been priced from $48,011 to $51,011 plus on-road costs since late 2022, when prices increased by $3630 months after the first deliveries."

            I'm pretty sure general statements like that don't account for discounts. My FB feed is absolutely flooded with ~$3000-7000 off car ads, including BYD's. Likely to be able to negotiate more off if you wanted to.

      • catbin on 19/05/2024 - 13:57
        +2

        I believe model 3 is 50k in China not 40k

    • tessel on 19/05/2024 - 12:59
      +37

      Honest question. They've gotta ship the cars here. There would be a bunch of regulatory stuff byd would need to pay for and be responsible for here long term (dealerships, parts, warranty, customer service, rent, blah blah). Given the cost for most but not all stuff in China is lower and the average salary in China is lower than Australia (China around $15k USD and Australia $60k USD) what price do people think a car that retails for $36k in China should sell for here in Australia? We're talking about a product here that needs service and support long term or are people happy to pay rock bottom prices for a product from a company that phoenixes overnight like many solar panel installer companies do? I'm not saying the current price in Australia is to high but I get the feeling people think of it's $36k in China it should be about the same here.

      • toastpaint on 19/05/2024 - 13:05
        +3

        Exactly - if people want to try grey imports they can save the $s but get no ACL protection.

        • Kegsta on 19/05/2024 - 15:30
          +2

          Wouldn't the steering wheel be on the wrong side?

      • rooster7777 on 19/05/2024 - 13:19

        Good reply but I'll simplify ….. it's the economics, rastus"

      • rhyme324 on 19/05/2024 - 14:01
        +2

        Can we get the same price as in the USA or Europe for other brands? Not really. Don’t be biased against Chinese cars only.

      • catbin on 19/05/2024 - 14:05
        +3

        The realestate cost whether purchasing a land or rent a showroom for dealerships in China are FAR MORE expensive than in Australia. I’m talking about double or triple the cost.

        Yes labour cost is cheaper but the tax is also HEAVIER in China. Plus Chinese government REBATE the manufacturers thousands dollars for each car they export. So the real cost for them to sell a car in Australia is actually cheaper than selling it in China.

        When talk about labour, the owners are the ones who pay for the service not the dealers. So a car 36k in China is not really worth over 40k in Australia. Unless the car needs to visit dealer’s depot every month for warranty issues.

      • beach bum on 20/05/2024 - 04:36

        How much should you pay for a ev that loose’s half its value overnight once driven off the lot and the other half when the warranty runs out ?

    • Phoebus on 19/05/2024 - 13:26
      -1

      Why? $36,000 + $4,000 shipping +$5,000 of Chinese consumer subsidies that we don't get +$4,500 GST = $49,500.

      • Creamsoda on 19/05/2024 - 13:46
        +3

        what subsidies your talking about? it ended 2022.

      • catbin on 19/05/2024 - 14:37
        +7

        $36000 is the after tax price. Chinese GST is composed of 13% VAT and 4% sales tax, which they can claim all back if the car is exported. Plus the government exportation rebate, the true price at the port is actually under $30k

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