• expired

Refurbished Dell Optiplex 780SFF Core 2 Duo 3.0GHz 4GB Ram 160GB HDD Win 7 Pro Desktop PC $79.20 Delivered @ Bneacttrader Ebay

730
PRESENT

Why buy a $1000 mac when you can buy this $79.20 pc that has 8 usb ports!

Specs:

  • Intel Core 2 Duo 8400 Processor (still a relitavely ok processor fine for light use)
  • 4GB RAM
  • 160Gb HDD (Hard Disk Drive)
  • Intel HD Graphics
  • Windows 7 Pro (upgradable to windows 10 for free)
  • 8 Usb ports and an earphone jack!!
  • Of course no wireless wifi and hdmi but you purchase a wifi adapter and a converter

Might as well buy this instead of a bag of potatoes

Contact the rep here: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/user/189195

As always, Enjoy!

Original 20% off Selected Stores for Father's Day at eBay Deal Post

Related Stores

eBay Australia
eBay Australia
Marketplace
Australian Computer Traders
Australian Computer Traders

closed Comments

  • +12

    Is there an option for Windows 95?

    • +5

      Sure is, old Pop.

    • +26

      Yep, but have to pay the upgrade fee

      • +9

        I paid $50 to upgrade from windows 7 to windows 10, consider the fee from 10 to 95 …

        • +1

          Can't be any worse than the upgrade to 2000…

        • +1

          No, you got it wrong. They will pay you $250 for that as it is opposite direction!

        • @Lysander:
          So you're saying you could potentially make money by buying these and updowngrading Windows…

        • +2

          @Kangal:

          Maybe worth a try with Microsoft.

          Actually, they are so desperate to get everyone on Windows 10 so they can collect data, they might pay you not to downgrade again. ;-)

        • +1

          I prefer Windows 3.11

        • @sschen:

          I prefer windows Vista -_* .

        • @netgnus: I prefer the newly released free MalfeasaSpy OS, at least you have an idea what it is really doing whilst you try to use it.

    • +9

      It's better to go for Win 98SE as it gives USB support right out of the box.

      • +9

        Who needs USB, when you have floppy disk.

        • +2

          Who needs a floppy disk when you a punch card

      • +1

        Hmmm, I guess windows 95 will go really well with a macbook air.

      • +8

        No worries for me, I have the usb drivers on a usb stick

      • It's better to go with MS-DOS startup disk with Lotus and Word Perfect.

        • MS-DOS 6.22 or 7.1?

        • @Jake Elwood:

          MS-DOS 6.22 or 7.1?

          dir…. Isn't it obvious.

        • shouldn't that be 'dir/'

    • Windows 3.1 is where it's at.

      • +2

        I think you mean Windows 3.11 (with MS-DOS 6.22)

        • +3

          No, i'm not that advanced.

    • Windows 95 would probably not even start on such an advanced PC such as this one.

      • DOS

    • +3

      You know what, I'm pretty damn sure

      becuase the are commercially licensed machines, they have downgrade rights to 95

      https://download.microsoft.com/download/6/8/9/68964284-864d-…

  • -1

    No hdmi port

  • +5

    Pretty sure the first space shuttle has more processing power than this

    • +6

      You'd hope so…

      • +18

        actually it didn't

        chances are your Xiaomi phone has more processing power than the original shuttle.

        • +10

          chances are your Xiaomi phone has more processing power than the original shuttle.

          No sh*t. My 1995 computer was 75MHz, which is overpowered by a Xiaomi phone. And the first 'shuttle' mission was 1981…

        • +10

          your pocket calculator that you throw out because you cant be bothered finding batteries for it, has multiples more power than whatever the hell Neil Armstrong Buzz Aldrin used to get to the moon in 1969…

        • +8

          @Spackbace: did you press the turbo button to go up to 100Mhz

        • @limucat:

          Yep, made Hover run so much faster!

        • +2

          exactly, a Nokia 3310 or a graphics calculator is more powerful than the computer systems on the first space shuttle, and a Xiaomi phone is hardly any slower than this core 2 duo PC anyway.

          the CPU on the space shuttle only did 400,000 instructions per second - and the computer that took man to the moon was orders of magnitude inferior to that. You can do a lot with not much if you're not running on Windows lol

        • @diamondd: Really? This pc still outperforms a xiaomi phone. Try runing flash on your phone. Phones and desktops will never ever be comparable!

        • +1

          The Nokia 3100 has more processing power than the original space shuttle.

        • +1

          @BrodenIt: well yeah, but not significantly when placed on a performance graph that includes the first space shuttle.

        • @BrodenIt: in terms of clock speeds a mi4 is 2/3rds the speed of this PC, while both are between five and seven THOUSAND times faster than the CPU on the space shuttle.

          not an ideal comparison and we're talking about apples and oranges anyway, but the point I was making in terms of magnitudes should be pretty clear.

        • +1

          not sure why you'd care about running flash in this day and age either, although I guess its of this PC's vintage.

        • @limucat: Mine went to 133…

        • -3

          chances are your Xiaomi phone has more processing power than the original shuttle.

          You are ALL completely wrong, for starters the shuttle had more than one cpu it would have had hundreds on board.

          First starters it ran 4 or 5 different "lets call them control computers" and compared them against each other. The screens on the shuttle had cpus, the atmosphere control system that managed oxygen is another cpu. Every single machine that did somethign from flushing the toilet, to open and closing the cargo bays would have had at least ONE cpu and many more. THere were dozens of sensors measuring temp, vibrations and many other factors, thats how they knew part of challenger lost the tile, and each of these sensors had cpus.

          Its like todays cars, they have had dozens of cpus for a long time. There are dozens of little cpus doing boring stuff from running the wipers, to turning the turning lights and off at the right time. All of these cpus do at least tens of mhz because they are cheap.

          My point is all of you simply didnt even get the number of cpus on the shuttle right and assumed it only had one. The same is true of your xiaomi phone, its got several cpus as well, theres probably the "main" cpu, and another to control the screen, another to handle the touch surface and probably more. Back to the shuttle, even if many of those cpus only did a mhz or two, it quickly adds up when theres hundreds of them.

          The shuttle had easly more processing or instructions per second power than any xiaomi today.

        • Not to take the joke away but turbo buttons actually slowed the system so it was able to play older games :)

        • @DrunkTechSupport:

          I'm pretty sure that the turbo button must have been hooked up backwards.

        • @ninetyNineCents: I think you're confusing CPU's and microcontrollers/secondary microprocessors…

        • @TrulyUnicorn:

          Microprocessors are CPUS and secondly much of the other hidden equipment on the shuttle was very complex and not some simple 64 byte pic. I dont know how many of them lived in a functioning shuttle but it was LOTS. TO think there was only 1 or 2 cpus on the entire shuttle syste m is very wrong. Todays microprocessors such as car sensors are by definition of their ram or speed probably all quicker than every single bit of silicon on the shuttle, so if you want to be silly then the shuttle had no cpus, which is clearly wrong. Anything that processes logic in some way is complex, the problem is we dont understand everything inside a working shuttle and pretend it doesnt exist.

    • +9

      You need to send this into orbit?

    • lol not even close

  • -8

    It's amazing that these appreciated in price. I bought similar ones for less than 50 bucks 4 years ago.

    • +7

      Not similar at all. Those PCs you bought had no OS installed! Plus, only 2GB RAM, and inferior CPU with half the L2 cache.

      • -7

        Similar does not mean identical. Not even going to bother debating on a computer that's like 7 years old now. If you think it's good value by all means go ahead.

    • +1

      Specs are slightly different (2gb ram and e7500). Would have been a deal if there was more than 2 available.

      • -1

        There were loads actually, and in various models. Some with monitors, printers, etc.
        Grays was disposing them off for some mining company.

      • +2

        And read the part that says "No OS installed".

    • +2

      To be fair, they were only 2 Gb :-p

  • +5

    Does anyone know of a low profile GTX1080 that will fit this?

    • +16

      why? the CPU will be bottle necked by the lowly gtx1080.

    • +17

      Feels weird to be stuffing a GTX 1080 into a potato..

      • +7

        A bit of zinc and a bit of copper and you can take the load off the main power supply…

      • +2

        What's wrong with stuffed potatoes?

      • You could buy 10 of these for the price of a 1080 lol

    • +2

      Needs a GTX 1080 Ti

  • +2

    Years ago, lots of them in rubbish area.

    • +5

      How does this help Ozbargain members?

      • It does the opposite.

  • +25

    I have one at home. It plays PUBG at 1080P no problems.

    on youtube.

    • +3

      Lowest settings is best settings. Only potato people win PUBG.

      • +2

        Nah I think I would rather die beautifully than win

      • +1

        Is that true? I thought they fixed the grass issue.

        • I wonder if its possible to design a game, where if you had a faster GPU it would give you a slight edge against someone with a standard or slow GPU. And I'm not talking about crazy 144fps kind of way, or like Crysis-slow-every-pc-out-there approach…. rather actual physics and graphics.

        • @Kangal: Sure, solving equations by iteration. Every go round gets you slightly closer to the 'correct' answer, but because your time is limited slower machines can't do as precise a calculation.

          It's a bit like getting precise GPS co-ordinates, the more readings you take you the more accurate your location is reported.

          Sorta like the goal seek function in Excel, you can set the number of attempts it makes.

        • @D C:
          Interesting.

          Or how about a game where all the background are white boxes/tiles, and everyone else is a rectangle of similar size of the boxes. And your purpose is to move around and find the opponent players and shoot them (invisible gun). It could be a one-shot kind of deal, so stealth becomes paramount, or different game types. However, framerate isn't important here as people strive for 30fps… what is important is to increase the resolution and graphic settings which requires a more powerful gpu. And before each match it would show a screen with which GPU each opponent has, so it prepares you for the difficulty/challenge.

          And if you have a weak GPU, eg Intel iGPU Iris, runs only at 720p/30/lowest settings, then the opponents are exactly rectangles and finding them is impossible unless you see some squares/outlines moving or they stand at a odd angle, which breaks up the the straight lines of the background tiles. But if you have a slightly more powerful GPU like a GTX 750/RX550/1030, it runs at 720p/30/low, then you can sort of see the opponent at close range because you realise they aren't a perfect rectangle. And if you get a more powerful card like a 750Ti/RX460 and 950/1050 it gets slightly better and better running 720p/30/med. Then moving up to a 960/1050Ti, runs at 720p/30/high, you start seeing some textures on the walls and the opponents and some soft shadows, it really pushes the cards but makes it easier to find opponents. Then moving up to the GTX970/R290/RX470/1060-3GB, it runs at 1080p/30/high, its the same graphics but a boosted resolution which helps to see moving opponents from further distances. Then those with the 1060-9Gbps/GTX980/R390X/RX480/RX580, runs 1080p/30/very high, get even better textures and shadows giving those players an advantage. The next step is the GTX980Ti/1070/Vega56, runs at 1440p/30/very high, the bump in resolution helps for even better distances. The next step is the VegaFE/Vega64/1080 where it runs at 1440p/30/ultra and the new textures practically highlights enemies for you. The last step is the 1080Ti/TitanXP where it runs at 4K/60/ultra meaning you can sit and pick off enemies at obscene distances.

          It's basically an inverse "hiding in the grass" situation: where people with high-end rigs think they're out of sight/camouflaged… but the low-end players don't see the grass and only see an enemy crouching in the middle of the map.

        • @Kangal: The grass problem made me laugh when I heard about it.

          I was wondering where the fun would be for the person with the lesser GPU until I realised that rather than apply a handicap (eg less GPU = more ammo) you could offset the imbalance by adjusting the target areas.

          So a person with a good GPU can render finer detail and thus aim better, and vice versa for poorer GPU. So for the good GPU you make their target area tiny, and progressively larger as GPU ability drops.

          Making the target area the same for all players puts the lower GPU people at a disadvantage as "it's in that blob somewhere".

        • @D C:
          Well, that is dependant on the game and not the GPU.
          And people could fool the game easily, for instance, into thinking you have a GT 1030 when in fact you have a GTX 1070.

          The only way to force such a feature would be with resolution, and scaling for long-distance opponents. But that won't work too well because we have a narrow choice of steps. There's only 720p, 1080p, 1440p, 4K… only 4 steps, but there's closer to 8 steps in GPU hierarchy. Besides, it also alienates players who might have a GTX 1080 Ti, but only a 1080p screen… so they can't even have the advantage even if they had the graphical hardware.

          This is an interesting idea, I really don't know how one could go about it besides just super-fast-paced gaming like CS:GO. Or perhaps the tile/boxy first-person shooter I mentioned above.

          edit: Okay I think I got a new idea.
          What if the base game has a lot of tall grass. And as you crank the settings higher it reduces the amount of grass, but introduces new grass which has much higher graphical quality. So someone with a GT 1030 might see a lot of low-quality tall grass, whereas someone with a GTX 1070 will see very few, but very graphically challenging, grass. So the GTX 1070 player is more likely to spot the GT 1030 player, whereas the GT 1030 player won't be able to spot the GTX 1070 user. And someone with a GT 1030 might spoof their PC to say its a GTX 1070, but it won't matter, as they physically lack the hardware capabilities to actually draw the high-quality grass so their game would crash/freeze or play at a ridiculously slow 5fps slideshow-speed.

          What do you think?

        • What do you think?

          Fantastic! I can see the poster:
          Class Warfare

    • +2

      I have a E8500 with 9600 GSO (with whopping 384 mb of VRAM!) and it stutters on Youtube 1080p.

      Though I'm fairly certain it's the card that's holding it back.

      • +2

        Weirdly, i have a e6550 with no gpu and it plays 1080p fine but there doesn't seem to be any difference between 720p and 1080p. The gpu even idles at 70 degrees. Pc does feel hot but most of the heat seems to come from the power supply. Let's hope the psu won't blow up :/

  • +3

    still beats the high-end intel atom cards (TDP: <4watt) according to user benches :> http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core2-Duo-E8400-v…

    • +1

      I have a older core 2 duo pc thats 9 years old and it is noticably faster than my atom laptop. But then again thats comparing a pc to a laptop.

  • +6

    I use these for 24/7 POS applications as they have a parallel port which many old but reliable receipt printers need (USB to parallel converters aren't reliable enough in practice).

    I've actually used them as office PCs too and they work fine, particularly if you substitute an SSD. By office I mean Windows 10, Office 2013/2016, usual web browsing etc. Nothing fancy but enough for many people out there.

    Note - if you do substitute an SSD you will still need to use the existing HDD cooling fan and mounting frame - if you don't you'll get a boot error. Just use a cable tie to secure the SSD etc.

    • +1

      That dosn't suprise me, we still get several inquiries everyday for machines like this for that purpose, or hooking up to CNC or Diagnostic machines.

  • +1

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FupU6pZrm58&t=444s

    I got a hp 7800 for free, gonna put a $20 dollar q6600 and a gt1030 in it, and at some point an sdd and some ram

    Could probably do the same to this for a ultra low budget gaming pc.

  • +4

    Why buy this when you can pick up something better from a kerbside collection for free?

    • +1

      Depends where you live.

    • +1

      I use to go to rich people suburbs on their hard rubbish days and pick up computer bits worth selling. But now they have to be recycled and hard rubbish wont pick em up…bumma, made some cash from that.

    • No kerbside collection in my LGA or the neighbouring one.

  • +5

    Throw in a semi decent low profile card and it can play some games at 720P.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaocbxhbO1k

    Give this to your kids before spoiling them with gtx 1080s.

  • Any way of transferring the OS from this to another PC, or being OEM not possible? That's a bargain for the OS alone…

    • You can, but you're going to have to obtain the iso from a 3rd party website.

    • I can't see why you wouldn't be able to - it being OEM shouldn't make a difference.

      Just a phone call to Microsoft?

      Then upgrade to Win 10 for free!

      • Yup, or you can just obtain a windows 10 key off ebay.

      • +4

        OEM Windows is supposed to be tied to the Motherboard. Microsoft's policy is not to activate it unless you are reinstalling on the same motherboard or you replaced a broken one with a similar model. Not to say that you won't get away with it if you tried, that's just the rule.

        • Yeah that was my understanding too - wondering if worth a punt. I guess if anything it's more legit than an ebay key.

        • +2

          @frankymatty: no, it's the same level of legitness. But less chance of being caught, especially if you use hot hair to swap the sticker. Be warned that Dell OEM keys only work on Dell Motherboards (or HP, etc.). Personally I think it's not worth it. Try finding a second hand retail copy (transferable) or use Windows Insider Programme to "test" it on the new PC.

        • @The Land of Smeg:

          I stand corrected!

          You learn something new every day.

        • @The Land of Smeg:
          Be warned that Dell OEM keys only work on Dell Motherboards

          They must have changed this over the years. I bought windows XP OEM off eBay (got the installation disc and key) back in the day installed and worked on a couple of custom built machines until i upgraded to windows 7

        • @The Land of Smeg:

          I recently installed Win 7 to an old desktop (I think it had a Gigabyte mobo) & activated it just fine with a key from a dead Dell laptop.

          FYI

        • @Geekomatic: it's hit and miss

  • +9

    Sold me on earphone jack.

Login or Join to leave a comment