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Smith & Wesson M&P 9 Shield 9mm $490 @ Cleaver Firearms

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**Dons flame-retardant suit…
Cleaver Firearms are offering an exceptionally cheap deal on this pint-sized pistol by Smith & Wesson, chambered in 9mm. It is very light weight, not only because if it's size, but it is also a combination of polymer and stainless steel. It comes with 2 magazines, at least one of which is an 8 round capacity.

This is a brilliant pistol and very well reviewed (generally 5*) on sites like Cabela's.

Please, no silly comments - if it's not your cup of tea, move along. Maybe to your local pistol range to try it out! You might surprise yourself with a 1 inch grouping :-)

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    • Really hard to buy and own a handgun legally.

    • There is only one species you hunt with a high powered, short barrel 9mm.

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    Ozmurica

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    Perfect gun to shoot caged eggs with whilst reading christian literature.

  • no interest at all except how cheap are these in the USofA?
    AUD$490 sounds a tonne cheaper than I thought a pistol usually is (I thought they are thousands, but really I have no idea).

    I assume 490 here would mean gun loving US would be under a few hundred?

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      Surprisingly more expensive. US$499 at Cabela's. Which is why this is such a good deal.

      • thanks.

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    This deal should be marked Targeted (to those who own a gun licence).

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      I suppose no more than a car deal is ‘targeted’ at those with a drivers license?

      • Except that most adults drive, whereas not only do you need a cat H licence for this, you need a specific genuine reason to own it as well. I wonder how few people in this country would actually be able to get a permit to acquire for this.

        • I didn’t realise those were the grounds to label something as targeted. Any future offers for minority groups should also be marked targeted too I guess.

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          @swilso: you're right that that doesn't necessarily mean this deal should be targeted. But I was just thinking about how few people would actually be able to get the permit to acquire for this particular handgun. If it were a bolt action rifle that'd be a different story, because almost any adult can get the licence and permit to acquire for that.

    • Ba dum tiiiissh….

  • Can I use this to protect myself during a home invasion?

    • Possibly but you wouldn't be able to buy a firearm for the purpose of self defence.

      As far as I understand, you're not even allowed to have a stick by the door in preparation to defend yourself from an intruder.

      • Oh dear, not even a stick? Guess I'll just have to go with the doberman then.

      • Actually if you buy any item for the sole purpose of a weapon then you are not allowed to have it… but if you have a baseball bat for playing baseball then it is totally fine.
        A stick on the end of a broom is fine as its main purcahse purpose was for cleaning

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          The machette next to the door is for gardening

        • @ziggy1312: "GET OUT OF MY HOUSE, OR I'M GOING TO TRIM YOUR F@#$ING HEDGES! If you know what I mean."

        • But when it comes to self defense, what does the law say once you already own the item?

        • @MrZ: buy a heavy MAG light and put next to bed for when the "power goes out". Still, it's not going to compete with anyone wielding a deadly weapon, or when it's a multiple person home invasion. As the Americans say : when seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Assuming you have the chance to call them in time.

  • There are no real life guns in Australia so this is just a sèx toy right?

  • If you prefer not to see firearm deals (like me) I found out recently there is a hide button under the deal tags on the top left.

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    omg i hate guns, omg neg this post, omg.

  • How does shipping work?

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      Registered Australia Post to your local firearms dealer or police station for remote Australians.

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        Awesome. May bite the bullet on this deal.

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    WTF I thought guns were banned in Australia? Why is this post even here on a good community website? Why would you want to even have a gun or shoot someone or an animal or anything? -1 for post. Or how about we dish guns out to idiots with low intellect like the US?? That worked out so well for them right?

  • I've got big hands and it kicks a bit too high for my liking. You'll need gorilla thumbs to load the last couple in the clip as well, (or a loader). Nice piece though.

    • Same thing with many double stack magazines I would've thought, eg glock.

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        It's a single stack.

    • Good to know. Can I ask, just out of curiosity, how were you able to get a pistol like this, ie short barrel, on your licence: what "genuine reason" enables you to get a permit to acquire for this one? I don't intend to ever get a pistol like this of course, because as far as I know it's not one that would be approved for club competitions.

  • i foresee a new hobby, for recreation of course. I used to serve in the force during my conscription days back where i was from, shooting at the range was probably one of the most exciting bits of my time there. Moved here and haven't held a firearm since.

    anyone in WA metro care to give some tips as to how to start? Also sounds like a fairly expensive hobby?

    • This gun probably isn't obtainable for club shooting. At least in Victoria there are minimum barrel length requirements. Google ipsc or ipsc Australia to find a club in your area. Ipsc is like competitive target shooting involving running, shooting through holes, etc.

      • what is it obtainable for then? do you purchase a handgun and then register it? or do you require a licence first?

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          Someone else mentioned that this particular handgun might be obtainable by category H licence holders who use being a primary producer as their genuine reason for holding that licence. So, pretty much not the average person.

          For the average person, the process for obtaining a handgun is all done through a club. For example, a club which shoots the IPSC sport (there are plenty of other handgun sports of course, eg metallic silhouette).

          So, in Victoria at least, generally you'd attend a few sessions with the club, they'd invite you to become a member, you'd keep training with them, then they'd submit an application to get your provisional handgun licence (you can't buy handguns yet on that), then a few months later (I think) after continuing training and probably competing in competitions using borrowed handguns, you'd apply for a full handgun licence (category H licence) through the club. Then after that, you can get your club to submit a permit to acquire for the handgun you want. This whole process will take months. Keep in mind, the club will only approve the permit to acquire if it's a handgun that they actually use in their sport.

          In order to be eligible to keep your category H licence, you need to be competing and training a certain number of times in a year. It's like at least 8 competitions and a few training sessions, I believe, not sure.

          The ongoing cost of ammunition is what makes this expensive. When you consider that retail bought 9mm ammunition costs $0.45 to $0.50 and you'll be shooting at the very least 150 rounds in a training session, and then several hundred rounds in a weekend of competitions. So, to bring the cost down, most people "reload", ie make their own ammunition. I've heard you can bring the cost of each 9mm round down to around $0.20. So those are significant savings over the retail price. But in order to reload, you need to buy a reloading setup, which costs at least a few hundred dollars, but will of course pay for itself over time.

          So you can see after all that expense and the yearly time requirements of all the trainings, competitions and time spent making your own ammunition, that handgun shooting sports require dedication. You pretty much can't own a handgun just because you like them and want to go for a shoot every now and again, like you could with bolt action rifles, the licence category of which doesn't have competition requirements.

          All of what I've said applies in Victoria. Victorian firearm laws are slightly more reasonable than other states. Eg in WA if your firearm looks scary (military looking, as they put it), you can't have it (seriously, it can be that arbitrary and nonsensical). Point being, contact a club whose sport you might be interested in to find out what their particular process is.

        • @zaidoun:

          Awesome, thanks for such a detailed response. Much appreciated!

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      Google PVPC (Whiteman Park), OGSA (Orange Grove) or West Coast Pistol & Revolver (Pinjar).

      PM me if you like.

      • Thanks but I did look up the costs, and I have enough expensive hobbies as it is. I might park this one for now.

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