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Original Wicked Wednesday link: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/422105
Current listed price is $2796 minus 20% then minus 5% = $2124.96. Hopefully they don't sneak the starting price up.
Sony X90F 65" 4K UHD Android Smart LED TV, $2124.96 @ JB Hi-Fi (20% off Sony TVs Plus Extra 5% Email Subscriber)
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How much was the P7? The panel on this is much better, i.e. proper 10bit panel vs 8bit on the P7 so you get proper hdr on the sony plus dobly vision.
Thinking of getting the 55in for the bedroom
P7 supposedly has a 10 bit. But Sony would be much better I imagine. It was $1,200 for the 65”
P7 and up is 10bit. P6 is 8bit.
P7 and up is 10bit. P6 is 8bit. Sorry, Hisense p7 does not do DV.
DV?
How does this compare to them OLED TV's I keep hearing about?
Just got an Xbox One X, and want to get the max out of its visual ability.
this TV has amazing reviews (for a non oled)
It's the best non oled TV for this year (according to many reviews)It is one of the best LED or maybe best value for money but not the best LED out there.
Checkout a Samsung Q9FN in store and you will be amazed. I always thought QLED was a gimmick until I saw a Q9FN in store next to a Sony X90F. They are nearly on par with OLED. Even a Samsung Q7FN is better than Sony X90F even though it is only edge lit and not a full array like Sony. They are outrageously expensive though and having waited so long for them to fall in price, I think I might end up buying a Sony X90F.
I went into buy a Q9FN and as soon as I switched the 4K demo to normal TV… pass… I went with the A9F from Sony. Far better visually on SD/HD and the audio quality blows the Samsung out of the water. But, as you said, both those screens are far more pricey than this one!
Why is the deal marked expired? I thought it went until midnight online?
@Graffin: Of course, because A9F is an OLED and significantly more expensive.
Not sure why the deal expired…maybe 5% off code expired.
A Samsung Q7FN is not better than this TV. The Q8 is only slightly better.
I recently bought this tv from bing lee eBay store when they had 20% off. The tv is nice with decent colours but the viewing angle is really bad. You’ll have to be sitting straight up front to view the best output.
From the sides colours are not bad but you can see a lot of blooming on the black background.Agreed, I just got this TV too, unfortunately for more than this but whatever as im pleased with it.
The Angle can be an issue however I always watch from the front and also, I don't notice any blooming on my panel. Colours are fantastic.
I have both Xbox one X/PS4 Pro, games look vibrant, minimal input lag(its actually not noticeable unless you're into pro gaming and even then why wouldn't you get a monitor for that)
Have you checked the input lag on a 1080 (Nintendo Switch, say) input? The 4k input lag is not too bad, according to RTINGS, but its the 1080 that is the one I'm concerned about.
I always watch from the front
Try watching from the back. The blacks are perfect!
Fine if you don't have family or friends and are a loner playing game then.
i've got no issues with angle viewing
How's the stock sound?
Stock sound is decent compared to the Yamaha YAS-107 that I already have.
I bought the 55 inch of this and though it was very nice, I didn't find it much better than my previous Samsung LCD. So I took it back and swapped it for the LG C8 and I ruddy love it! Red Dead xbox one X is just beautiful on it.
If your primary use is gaming I would stay away from OLED (screen burn issues), one or two hours at a time should be okay though.
For xbox use I would get a Samsung LCD with freesync, which varies/locks the refresh rate to the output of the xbox.
I have the lg c8 and have done multi hour PS4/Xbox sessions and no burn in. The burn in on oleds was an issue on the early models from 2-3 years ago.
Of course if you pause a screen for hours it'll burn in but not when used normally.
Yeah image retention is a lot better nowadays due to the (some say overly) aggressive auto brightness limiting (ABL) when a static image is detected, but some also say that's a problem in itself as once you notice it, you will see it all the time and it's really distracting.
@CH: The ABL never kicks in with games unless the screen is more than 60-70% white. There was a bug in LG TV's that was fixed yesterday with HDR dimming in scene changes..
RTINGS TV has been playing FIFA and COD for 6000 hours straight without burn in. Really isn't an issue unless you are running news banners etc.. all day
For consoles, OLED might be OK but definitely not to use as PC monitor.
Just got an Xbox One X, and want to get the max out of its visual ability.
that shouldnt be too hard
buy any old 4k tv with hdr
its not like youll notice any improvement given its all upscaled
Generally speaking OLED is superior to IPS for gaming which is what I believe this TVs are.
The exception is if you use a brightly lit area to use the TV in.
Mate… I don't know where you get your beliefs from…
it says LED in the title, IPS TVs are very rare
IPS is mainly used for high-end gaming monitorsActually IPS panels are very common in TV's. This model and Samsung range are VA Panels. High end Hisense and TCL also use VA. Every other model is IPS So basically the best LED TV's are VA as the contrast, brightness and blacks are so much better…. Don't know where you get your beliefs from! I've had OLED that got burn in then sent it back within 30 days. Rather have my Sony X9300E anyday. Brightness is about triple, sometimes more because of ABL in bright scenes for OLEDs. No worry about burn in and basically superior in every way other than blacks (Which it comes close to in many scenes)
@Whisper Quiet: It takes thousands of hours to burn in ( https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-life-oled-burn-in-test ) an OLED TV, so I'm calling garbage on burning one in 30 days. It took more than 3000 hours at max brightness displaying news banners for 20 hours a day 7 days a week to get burn in.
XE93 loses in response time, contrast ratio, viewing angle, colour gamut; basically everything aside from brightness with large windows.
@Tommo53: You're calling garbage? What from someone who can't afford OLED!? All you do is read payed off reviews and believe marketing gimmicks. I don't need to justify myself to someone like you. If you think OLEDs need a minimum of 3000 hours for burn in you're seriously naive and deluded! They have image retention that will stay on the screen after minutes of a picture being displayed. The C7 I had was awful for brightness, ABL made the the screen dim dramatically whenever a brighter picture came on looked like it flickers into eco mode. No such thing as pure white on OLED it's a shade of blue. Contrast is only relevant to how bright and how dark it is. So when the TV can only display 150 nits for an overall picture and 500 nits for a 10% highlight you lose your colour gamut as the brighter shades cannot be displayed properly. I guess they don't tell you that in their marketing! Viewing angles they definitely win but I don't make a habit of viewing my TV from the side of the room. OLED response time is superior but it actually makes for a worse picture. It's almost instantaneous which cause judder as the frames separate too quickly. With the Sony it is around a hundredth of a second which you need for a smooth transition between frames. Just google pixel response. I don't know why you decided to respond with an opinion of OLED when all you're doing is quoting a website. Rtings actually called the C7 the best PC monitor at the time I bought it, now they have to put warnings and different ratings scores because of burn in. So what about the thousands of people who have had issues with burn in and obviously you don't know anyone or owned one yourself, otherwise you would have said your experiences. Next time keep your mouth shut and don't call people a liar when you have no idea what your talking about.
P.S it was in week 4 of the burn in test they had burn in from the 200 nit OLED not the brightest one. So 20 hours a day x 28 days = 560 hours. Not 3000! You can't even quote your source properly! Look at Week 4 on their changelog list. Your argument about 30 days burn in which you call garbage, you just proved Rtings had that exact thing happen to them!
@Whisper Quiet: Actually I own a A8F LOL so don't claim I can't afford something I can: https://i.imgur.com/vd5MqDZ.jpg
There is a difference between the overcompensation (lightened areas) that go away with compensation and actual burn in. The quoted uniformity issues (week 4) are due to overcompensation where the panel is driving the areas of degradation too hard causing it to be brighter than the surrounding areas. The compensation algorithm probably wasn't designed with 20hr/7days of the same image in mind.
Burn in (permanent differential wear) does not set it until the brightness overhead is exhausted which takes 3000 + hours; which is when the field becomes dark. Go look at the 1800 hour mark at the max brightness CNN TV and the red field is perfect. Don't tell me I don't know the source when I clearly do.
The test with the B6 burn in with 560 hours because there was no compensation implemented in that generation. They licence the Ignis patents for 2017 onwards which increased the hours to burn in 5-6x with no change in the panel: https://patents.google.com/patent/US9125278B2/en
They then implemented 60% larger red subpixel for 2018 to increase this further.
Even if it was 560 hours, I'm calling garbage on your 30 days burning in a C7. No such thing as pure white on OLED it's a shade of blue - BS, I have Delta E on my greyscale of less than 1.0..
@Tommo53: Nice stock photo of the OLED!! Don't believe that garbage for a second. Rtings show two OLEDs develop burn in after 4 weeks (FIFA and CNN) now because you look like an idiot for showing yourself up. You're trying to back pedal and make up excuses for it. The proof is right there. B6 burn in?? They are all C7 models being tested. Ive never seen someone here try to prove someone wrong but end up making themselves look stupid by showing the opposite! Well Done! Now enjoy your Soniq TV and stop googling OLED pics.
@Whisper Quiet: Nice stock photo of the OLED!! Do a reverse image search and show me where it is from then. I really don't want to take your obvious bait and take a photo with my name on it.
Don't believe that garbage for a second. Rtings show two OLEDs develop burn in after 4 weeks (FIFA and CNN) now because you look like an idiot for showing yourself up. You're trying to back pedal and make up excuses for it. The proof is right there.
The lightened areas disappear at week 14. They reappear as darkened areas afterwards. This matches what I said regarding the ignis patent and the overcompensation. I'm sorry if you find it hard to comprehend, but try prove me wrong without straw man attacks. Burn in is the loss of brightness due to pixel wear. How can an area that is brighter than the surround areas be burn in? It is overcompensation by the algorithm which drives the panel harder (brighter) to maintain uniformity; a new feature for 2017 which increases the lifetime significantly from 2016 on the same panel. RTINGS purposely use the term uniformity rather than burn it because it is not. Usage that is closer to normal will not see this kind of uniformity. The actual burn in does not set in until the compensation limit is reached around 3000 hours at max brightness.
B6 burn in?? They are all C7 models being tested. Ive never seen someone here try to prove someone wrong but end up making themselves look stupid by showing the opposite!
The first OLED burn in test was with a B6 and that lasted the 500 hours: https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/permanent-image-retention-bu…
Well Done! Now enjoy your Soniq TV and stop googling OLED pics.
Every point I have made was accurate and cited. Try prove any of my points incorrect and show you burned a C7 in 30 days. Even if the C7 lasted only 600 hours (It actually lasts 6x longer minimum) you ran your TV at max brightness with the same static logo for 20 hours a day??
Or was it the B6 you apparently owned here? https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/328729#comment-5059246
Oh and you said that for 10% window, OLED can only do 500 nits. The C8 put out 918 nits.
80% of the low end TV's are IPS (LG, Sony X75, X85 etc..) . Samsung and Sony (X90, Master Series LCD) higher end displays are VA.
I've got the 75-inch version, really nice T.V with amazing colours for a non-OLED panel.
Great deal! Jump on it!
how? the sale is not even started yet?
im asking the good guys to match it now - so likely he did the same
What kind of fairy land house do you live in?
I was thinking of one for the Pantry
for the kitchen, nice done.
What about dining room?What about for the toilet? Very important
I too like to buy expensive 4k TVs to have a back up in the garage.
Harvey Norman to price match and using the recent Amex spend 350 get 50 back and split multiple cards? 6*50 = another 300 back!
thanks for reminding me, so $1,316 for the 55in model with 4 amex cards. going for it!
We had Sony X90 version, bought it last year for $3100 and still solid and very happy with the purchased,. Strong wifi connection not like my other cheap Sony bought about $500 42 inch which some issue with connection and need to re-start before it get connected! So annoying. Incredible sharp color….I wish it size 75inch but at that time it was about $7000…. if you can afford it go for size and high end Sony brand
I also rang the Good guys in Tempe - they will price match after 5pm
You're doing it wrong. You buy it now for full price then after 5pm go in and claim back 120% of the difference.
Is this valid? Has anyone tried this method before?
So in theory you can get
https://www.thegoodguys.com.au/sony-65-inches165cm-uhd-led-l…
$2795-$2125 = $670 x 120% =$804
$2795 -$804 = $1991Note: some good guys close at 530pm so there is only small Windows time to process the 120% claim?
Can anyone provide share experience on 120% TGG claim?
https://www.thegoodguys.com.au/30-day-price-guarantee@11CENTS: Ive only used it once but had the desired result.
Bought 4 Surface Pros at full price $1199 from TGG. Harvey Norman dropped the price a few weeks later to $897, there was a HN next door to this TGG. Submitted claim on website. Got 4 x 361.20 in Visa cards in the post a few weeks later.
Visa cards need to be activated within a month of receiving and they last for a year.
@serpserpserp: They refund the difference in price at 120% between the price you bought at and the price you submit.
IE If you buy something for $200 and submit a claim saying that HN has it for $100 now, they will give you $120 card.
It does work, I've done it before a few times. Yes, in this instance there is a small window.
It might not work with the extra 5% off, they will only price beat an advertised price, so the advertised price on JB Hifi will be after 20% off, so the price shown on JB's website will be $2,236.80.
You could maybe show them the price in your cart after applying the 5% code, but I doubt that will work.
great TV, Netflix and iTunes 4K movie looks amazing on it
People rave about Hisense and yet when I actually go to Hardly Normal and compare them side by side
They are not as bright and vibant as Samsung/Sony/LG
Even the TLC’s latest QLED line up doesn’t have the vibrancy of Sony’s normal LED TVs
At first I thought Hisense/TLC was not set up correctly
But no matter how much I fiddle with the settings I couldn’t quite
Get it to look good.Am I delusional?
Hisense is cheaper for a reason.
Not everyone is looking for vibrancy in a television- display sets in store are usually calibrated to be highly saturated and to 'pop' because studies have shown this sells more units, but once the screen is at home a lot of people like to calibrate it to accurately reproduce colours, which generally involves making the picture look a lot more 'warm' and lowering the contrast and brightness settings. Just look at AVForums, where there are threads hundreds of pages long dedicated to getting the most accurate picture settings out of a screen. There are even people that go around with professional equipment and calibrate televisions for a price.
I'm not saying Hisense is necessarily better than Samsung in this regard, just that a lot of people don't judge televisions based on 'vibrancy' when they talk about a good picture, particularly in reference to in-store screens.
I can't stand the fluor candy demos on display TV's, and it would not convince me to buy.
I'm the same, after having calibrated my television properly using warm settings I can never go back to the out-of-the-box settings, which just look ridiculous in comparison. Still though, there's obviously a reason store televisions are set up like that, people must just walk past sets that aren't over-saturated and go for the bright colours.
I also do not like the artificially boosted cheesy vibrancy
I always turn off every effect possible to get the most accurate picture possibleBut I figured that good head room in vibrancy helps during bright daylight viewing and is necessary in a practical situation.
No one says the HiSense are better than higher priced TVs, but they offer the same features and great picture at a cheaper price. Plus the 3 year in home warranty is a selling point.
Good price.
Any deals for 75” x90 ?
Not. Sure if i should go sony 75 x90 or 65 c8 lg oledSame.. ..thinking 75”size would be better in the long run but the C8 price and OLED…
How does it compare to KD65X7500F https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/418627, which was nearly half the price of this?
Is there any real difference?
Too many to mentioned
So it depend on what you use it for
Highlight, refresh rate, 100hx vs 50hz
direct led as opposed to edge ledSo if I don't use it for gaming, but only for Netflix and TV sort of stuff. Would it be any noticeable difference that you think?
the only models worth getting are the X9000F, A8F, A9F
the others are crapyes because the other models are crappy 8bit panels, worthless for HDR.
X70F is also 10 bit panel. I bought KD-55X7000F recently for $830 and quite happy with it.
https://www.sony.com.au/electronics/televisions/x7000f-x7007…
How does the additional 5% off work? Is this a price match thing or?
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Great price. Harvey norman had Sony Rep's in at their massive gold coast convention centre sale over the weekend and the Sony Rep wasn't able to come close to this price, which is similar to the previous Sony Ebay sales. Mind you, they were a mix of refurbs/damaged cartons etc.
Does anyone know if HN/TGG is going to price match $2124.96? It would be great if they do include that 5% discount.
sony 75" x9000 for $3747
soulds like a good deal comparable to sony click frenzy not long ago
Is this the best price so far for this particular model in the 75" size?
What's the bet that the JB HiFi website goes down at 5pm with all the traffic with people trying to buy a Sony TV
Further 5% (minus 1% card surcharge) off if you pay via JB Gift Card via Rewards (like NIB Rewards etc.)
I was just in my local JB HiFi and they're already offering the price noted here. I also note that Harvey Norman have dropped their price online price to match JB HiFi (pre 5% off).
Sony's RRP is $2499
i prefer a vastly inflated rrp vs discounted price to be fair :P
Thats for 55"
whoops its for the X9000F not X90F
my bad
They are the same model I’m pretty sure
X90F and X9000F is the same thing right?
Is the extra 5% code the same code for everyone? I still have not received my email
I havent received anything too..
Ouch I paid $2700 for this last month.
Where do you guys stand on size vs picture quality?
Harvey has the 75" for cheaper even after extra 5% off at JB.
JB https://www.jbhifi.com.au/sony/sony-x90f-75-4k-uhd-android-s…
Model: KD75X9000F$4996 * .8 = $3996.80 * .95 = $3796
Harvey
https://www.harveynorman.com.au/sony-75-inch-x9000f-4k-uhd-l…
model: KD75X9000F$3756
Or is my maths off?
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Good price. I still haven’t opened my P7 from the sale last month. 😬