Landlord Showing up with No Notice

To summarise, my landlord has shown up unannounced on three occasions, every time outside allowed hours and with no notice.
Each incident caused me to have a panic attack and cry and he just refuses to leave.
My dishwasher has been broken for 7 weeks.
My tiles had been broken for 4 years.
My tap had been broken for 2 years.
The only reason he is making repairs now is because he has just sold the place.

Can someone please give me advice on what I can claim for compensation? How much is reasonable?
I want to make him pay for all the emotional distress he has put me through and for not repairing anything. He is the worst landlord I have ever had and an awful person.
Please tell me about your experiences claiming compensation through VCAT and any advice you might have for me.


Background info:
My landlord has thrice shown up outside of legal hours (7pm, 6:40pm, 7:45am) and given me no notice he will be coming.
The first instance, several years ago, he came into my house and started criticising the state of things and accusing me of damage. As soon as he left, I had a panic attack and cried on the phone to my mum.
I complained to my real estate agent and the reason they gave me after they spoke to him was 'He's macedonian, that's how they are.'

This past thursday he showed up at 6:40pm when I was alone and in my pajamas, asking what brand my dishwasher was (it has been broken for 7 weeks now), making inane conversation and joking about how he has taken 4 years to fix my porch tiles which are falling apart. Again, I was very angry and upset and felt my privacy violated.
The following day I complained to my real estate agent's manager and was not given any empathy and not taken seriously.

Tuesday morning, I was due to start work at 8am, and he showed up at 7:45am with tilers and knocked on my door to ask for a power lead for the tile cutter. This time I told him flat out he is breaking the law and he needs to leave. I told him he can't show up without telling us and this is illegal. He laughed at me and told me he didn't care, he had to fix the tiles today (it's been 4 years), and acted like I was being silly and refused to leave until the job was done.
I went inside and had a panic attack as I cried on the phone to my boyfriend. My boyfriend was furious and asked me to pass the phone to the landlord. Despite this, he still refused to leave. As a result, I was 2 hours late for work because I refused to leave until he had gone.

My real estate agent is accepting no responsibility because he didn't tell them he was coming.

Comments

      • For example, in the past I bought some fish and chips, a week later I tripped and fell in the yard, a month later I found some flies in my bin. I told my boss, doctor, landlord, property manager, the bin man, mechanic, gardener, colleague and the fish and chips shop owner, all of them looked at me strange. All of them were same nationality background.

  • +4

    If the landlord showed up outside allowed hours without notice you should have told him thanks but no thanks. If the landlord then refused to go away you should have warned him that you will call the police. Seriously, what were you hiding that made your so stressed?

  • +7

    You probably should have moved the first time it happened. I bet there are other signs of bad boundaries from this bloke.

    It's just not worth the tears and anxiety. If you have a landlord that doesn't respect your privacy and security, especially a male visiting a female tenant outside business hours when she is alone and has no forewarning, then you surely should take your money somewhere else. He just doesn't get it, nor do the other blokes on these forums who say you are being unreasonable.

    • +1

      If the landlord showed up for no reason, yes that would be suspicious and creepy. But he has good reason (wanting to carry out repairs before the place sells) and OP knows these reasons. OP's reaction is because she has anxiety issues. A normal female tenant without anxiety issues might be concerned, sure, but nowhere to the same extent as OP.

      • +5

        People call when they have these reasons and ask what time would be good. Did he call - I may have missed that from the OP?

        • Oh I absolutely agree the landlord should have called, but it's nowhere near any kind of legal obligation. I don't think he called - but it's not as if he showed up to do something bad like a surprise inspection, or wanting to move OP out - he showed up to do repairs.

          • +2

            @HighAndDry: See here's the part that men don't get - it's not that he was obvious in his actions to do something bad. It's that sometimes guys have weird ass agendas and women have no choice but to look for the flags early, like way earlier than when a man would look for a flag. Boundaries, like calling so you don't surprise someone in their pajamas (which can be revealing for a woman btw), is a thing I noticed when I read the original post.

            I clearly don't have the same optimistic trust in males as others do.

            • +1

              @swapsey: What you (or other women with anxiety issues like OP) might be worried about is an issue for you to deal with. The landlord showed up wanting to fix the dishwasher and repair tiles. That you might ascribe ulterior motives to him where there are none isn't his problem.

              I'm being blunt here, because you're not OP so I'm hoping you can handle a bit more directness. But my main point is this: Don't make your problem (fears, concerns, anxiety, etc) into someone else's problem.

              • @HighAndDry: No here's where you have it around the wrong way - it's not fear based off no examples. That would be what you are talking about. It's fear based off plenty of creeps. And that is why we need norms like calling a tenant before you turn up. It's that simple. He didn't call, he has the problem.

                • +5

                  @swapsey:

                  it's not fear based off no examples.

                  I didn't say it's based off no examples. But has the landlord ever done anything to actually create this fear? Or are you and OP generalising to the landlord because of his gender? Sounds like sexism to me. This is the same logic as racists use when they say "I'm scared of Sudanese teens because there are examples of them mugging people on the street", and then using that to blame a Sudanese kid for just walking on the sidewalk.

                  Landlord has same rights as anyone else to knock on OP's door. OP's concerns and fears and worries and anxieties, and her sexist assumptions, are her own problem. She should deal with them, instead of trying to blame others.

                  • @HighAndDry: Funny how all the examples have the same gender. Personal safety demands we look for patterns of behaviour like this. People who try to stay PC because of fear of being labelled a sexist are making a mistake of not listening to their gut.

                    • +1

                      @swapsey: You and OP are free to generalise against people because of their gender. You'll just get called out and less sympathy for it.

                      What OP seems to want by your logic is to be sexist, get more rights, and deserve sympathy. Sorry but that's not gonna happen.

              • +4

                @HighAndDry: We should ALL be concerned and be hyperaware that some men do violence against women.
                The violence and intimidation of women by men in the Australian society is well documented and needs to be acknowledge and actively be fixed.
                In my opinion enforcing Landlord visits by appointment (ie. not at 7.30am or 11pm at night; and or/when when OP can organise not to be alone in the house) is a small positive way to do that.

                Aggressive males, violent males, intimidatory males…. are genuine fears for some women, certainly for some women who live alone. To trivialise these fears only further emboldens these types of males.

            • +6

              @swapsey:

              part that men don't get…

              This is the point where the argument turns into - "you're wrong because you have a penis".

              All logic, facts and precedence become irrelevant.

              • -1

                @[Deactivated]: Oversimplification is a sign of cognitive dissonance.

              • +1

                @[Deactivated]: when you turn this into an us vs them argument you're really missing the point here.

                • +4

                  @I3IGN0sE: There was no us vs them until…

                  part that men don't get…

                  This is a segregating comment and the person who inserted this is making this exactly as you say.

  • +15

    Hi,

    I used to work for an agency that operated under the Residential Tenancy Act. My role was to answer enquiries like this.

    In terms of compensation, you will need to substantiate the amount your claiming, and how your emotional distress can be quantifiable in a monetary value. VCAT, in my experience, will not award anything unless due process has been followed.

    Regarding your rights, you have the right to "quiet enjoyment" of the property, basically meaning you should be left alone and live as you want in the property.

    The Landlord also has a right to enter the property, however they must give you at least 24 hours written notice. Once the attendance starts to become excessive, you can make arguments that your right to quiet enjoyment of the property is being breached and can serve a breach of duty notice to your landlord.

    In terms of him being Macedonian, thats irrelevant. Law is the law. Yes he owns the house, however he cannot attend whenever he wants. You, as the tenant, have the right to refuse entry if a written notice of entry has not been submitted, and at least 24 hours have been provided. If he insists on entering, you have every right to call the police. He has no right to access the property if he has not submitted the appropriate documentation. I would suggest you also make a complaint to your states fair trading equivalent (im assuming Vic as you said VCAT), which would be Consumer Affairs Victoria. You will want to speak to the Estate Agents Resolution Service (EARS). They will be able to handle your complaints regarding the estate agents conduct. As there is an agent, they have the obligations of the landlord, namely, ensuring your rights are being upheld under the residential tenancies act.

    A lot of tenants will negotiate with the landlord to have a reduction of rent if they attend the property a lot as a form of compensation, however given your circumstances, it feels like that wont be appropriate.

    I hope this helped. Feel free to reach out if you need more advice. All the best

    • +1

      Thank you for your genuine advice instead of making fun of me. I will be filing breach of duty notices and decided to claim for the time I missed work and the 7 weeks my dishwasher has been broken. I didn't know about the EARS, that's a good idea, thanks.

      • -1

        All the best with it, even if things like compensation don't achieve much, hopefully it gives you some closure and empowerment.

  • +2

    Easy, MOVE!!!

    • Didn't know why you got negged there, but here a +1. I would have moved out of the property a long long time ago if I am not happy with the landlord.

  • +8

    I want to make him pay for all the emotional distress

    Because feelings…

    • +5

      Someone should buy Princess a Tiara!

  • -2

    I want to know why he is fixing:

    'your dishwasher'
    'your tiles'
    & 'your tap'

    Sounds like a great guy trying to help you out!

    Wish someone would show up in announced & fix 'my car'

  • -3

    You need to assert your rights.
    Next time he rocks up unannounced tell him to leave. When he laughs at you tell him he is trespassing and call the police. You are entitled use reasonable force to make him leave but it's better to let the police do their job. Tell the police you fear for your safety and that he is trying to enter your house. Record everything on your phone - this is legal in Victoria. Make sure to get an incident number from the police.

    • +3

      You are entitled use reasonable force to make him leave

      This is terrible advice, because while technically correct, "reasonable force" in these situations would've been zero force.

      Tell the police you fear for your safety and that he is trying to enter your house.

      Nowhere did OP say the landlord tried to forcibly enter the house, even in the last incident he stuck around hoping OP would change her mind about giving him a power lead. She didn't, and he left.

      • -3

        I have used force to remove a trespasser and it was great fun. A good guiding rule for what is reasonable (if your life isn't threatened) is to not cause grievous bodily harm - break no bones, draw no blood.

        If your life or the life of someone else is threatened and you have no way to retreat, reasonable force may include lawful homicide.

        In SA and WA there is no requirement to act proportionately if your home is being invaded and you believed it was necessary on reasonable grounds to use disproportionate force. In Tasmania it is not up to the police or the magistrate to decide what was reasonable, it is up to the victim of violence.

        • Wow, great advice for a female is who is suffering from anxiety attacks.

    • +5

      Tell the police you fear for your safety

      Why would you advise the OP to lie to the police?

      • -6

        From what OP said they had multiple panic attacks and were reduced to tears. What makes you fear for your safety is not the same as what other people fear. It is up to the police to decide if a reasonable person would hold the same fear.

        • +1

          I'm pretty sure OP already knows "if a reasonable person would hold the same fear".

    • +8

      You know what is illegal?

      Lying to the police.

      • -4

        Wrong.

        • SUMMARY OFFENCES ACT 1966 - SECT 53

          Any person who falsely and with knowledge of the falsity of the report voluntarily reports or causes to be reported to any police officer or to a protective services officer that an act has been done or an event has occurred, which act or event as so reported is such as calls for an investigation by a police officer or a protective services officer shall be guilty of an offence.

          Penalty: 120 penalty units or imprisonment for 1 year.

          • -3

            @[Deactivated]: That offense is for falsely reporting a crime. In this instance the reported crime is trespassing. If OP had phoned the police and knew the offender was not in fact trespassing then that would be a crime.

            It is not a crime to lie to the police.

            • +4

              @iratepirate: "Tell the police you fear for your safety and that he is trying to enter your house"

              Telling the police that someone is trying to enter your house, when in fact they are not, would be the whole "falsely and with knowledge of the falsity of the report voluntarily reports or causes to be reported to any police officer" part of the criminal offence.

    • +2

      Tell the police you fear for your safety and that he is trying to enter your house.

      Lie to the police, great advice…

      • Free accommodation and food for a year.

        Why wouldn't you?

  • +7

    …outside of legal hours…

    As of time of writing, none of the hours of the day has been outlawed.

    The first instance, several years ago…

    And you continued staying there several years later. Are you being held captive against your will? Should we call the police?

    criticising the state of things and accusing me of damage.

    Stupid landlord, he forgot that criticism has been outlawed since 2000.

    he showed up at 6:40pm when I was alone and in my pajamas, asking what brand my dishwasher was …I was very angry and upset…

    He shows up (albeit at a socially "illegal" hour) and asks about a dishwasher he is meant to fix. Your emotional reaction is anger and upset… Not annoyed?

    he showed up at 7:45am with tilers and knocked on my door to ask for a power lead for the tile cutter. This time I told him flat out he is breaking the law and he needs to leave… I cried on the phone to my boyfriend.

    You correctly identified what a law is here, and you called your boyfriend? Not the police?

    My real estate agent is accepting no responsibility because he didn't tell them he was coming.

    Your REA is supposed to place a restraining order? Not the police?

    • +2

      "The landlord can enter between 8:00 am and 6:00 pm on any day except public holidays" - This is from the residential tenancies act so the times listed above (7pm, 6:40pm, 7:45am) would be a breach of the act. Also even if he showed up within the time specified in the act, the landlord did not follow the right process of submitted a notice of entry.

      The real estate agent, like the landlord, has an obligation under the residential tenancies act to ensure that the tenants right to quiet enjoyment is not being breached. They are representing the landlord, but as such, they also adopt the same responsibilities under the act.

      • +4

        "The landlord can enter between 8:00 am and 6:00 pm on any day except public holidays" - …landlord did not follow the right process of submitted a notice of entry.

        The issue is unlawful entry, not illegal time. The landlord didn't break in, as per OP, he showed up outside. If he barged his way through, there are other criminal elements to be investiagated and "illegal time" would be the least damning of charges.

        The real estate agent, like the landlord, has an obligation under the residential tenancies act to ensure that the tenants right to quiet enjoyment is not being breached. They are representing the landlord, but as such, they also adopt the same responsibilities under the act.

        The real estate agent is simply an agent to the landlord. They cannot place physical restraints which would be the only way to stop the landlord from entering the property. They should and would advise the landlord to act according to tenancy laws, and if they didn't, they'd be culpable. If they had and the landlord chose to ignore the advice, the REA can not do anymore.

        • +1

          yeah apologies, i did misread the first few sentences. The way its worded its not so specific. I am aware that they cant enter, but its also the tenants choice to let them in, or refuse entry.

        • +1

          The issue is unlawful entry.

          Well it's not actually since he never entered the house.

          If he barged his way through…

          That is not what happened though.

          • @trapper: Precisely. I meant the law in consideration was unlawful entry but even then, it is not applicable because of the lack of entry.

      • The landlord can enter

        I don't see where OP said the landlord ever entered the property.

  • -4

    legally he cant turn up without 24 hours notice

    • +4

      He can turn up, he just can't enter. He didn't enter, so this is a non-issue. (The difference is, if he had given notice, OP wouldn't be able to refuse the landlord entry.)

      • +3

        OP could literally just say it is harassment

        I used to be a landlord if this goes to VCAT OP will win (assuming this is Victoria) the law hates (residential) landlords

        • +1

          Hahahah it's true that tribunals dislike landlords, but trying to construe this as harassment would be a bit rich, even for VCAT. The landlord showed up only twice - once to ask about dishwasher (perfectly reasonable request), second time to ask for a power lead to perform repairs.

          Seriously, OP would get no love even from VCAT and it'd be a waste of time and money for her. Not to mention - can you imagine OP, with anxiety issues, trying to present any kind of case to VCAT? No, it'd end terribly.

          PS: I didn't neg you btw, ran out much earlier in the day.

          • @HighAndDry: lets be honest OP would go to VCAT and basically word it like the landlord was a serial killer and be award 6 months rent back.

            VCAT is a joke and the system is so anti landlord regardless of who is actually in the right or wrong

        • +2

          OP could literally just say anything, doesn't mean it is factually or legally correct.

          Hell, your post is literally murder. But, you won't see any police coming to arrest you for murder.

  • +1

    Sorry to hear about your experience. That sounds just awful. He is doing the wrong thing and so are your real estate agents by not sticking to the rental agreement. Can I suggest you keep a diary of these incidents of the time and date like you've done here and try this link to seek some advice?

    https://www.tenants.org.au/contact-us

    I hope you things smooth out for you soon.Best of luck

    • Thanks for the support, however I am in Victoria. :)

      • Glad to support you! I wonder if they can refer you to a Victorian tenant support service. :)

  • +1

    You can also serve a breach of lease notice on the real estate agent. If you have to break the lease it will then be without any penalties.

    https://www.tuv.org.au/advice/breach-of-duty-notices/

  • -7

    While I didn't expect to be made fun of for standing up for my rights, I have spoken to consumer affairs (3 separate people) who told me even if he doesn't 'enter',
    and despite his reasoning, it is an offence to show up without notice, outside legal hours and he is trespassing. My property extends outside my front door for those of you who don't know.
    Thanks for making fun of my anxiety, though.

    • +9

      Wasted a few minutes reading comments again looking for the part where your anxiety was "made fun" of.

      You were mocked for your irrational decisions and disproportional responses. You're trying to blame your ridiculous decisions like calling your boyfriend instead of the police when you thought it was trespass on having anxiety. You won't get far blaming everything on anxiety.

      If you came looking for sympathy, you're definitely going to feed your anxiety - it's the internet, the place where criticism (constructive like this one) or simple dismissal is commonplace.

      As for consumer affairs, they're just like anyone else here. We can give you advice but you will need to seek a lawyer to know what is applicable to your exact scenario.

      (This is general advice only, please see our website for full Ts and Cs and PDS before deciding if this advice is right for you. If in doubt, speak to a professional.)

    • +8

      it is an offence to show up without notice

      I might've believed you on the other points except for this. This is objectively wrong, and it's not even arguable, and it makes me question how competent the people you spoke to are. The landlord - like any other member of the public - is absolutely allowed to show up and knock on your door. The regulations say he can't enter without notice - which is why you could refuse to let him enter. But:

      1. He didn't even want to enter the first time this past week, he just asked the dishwasher brand and had a chat. Nothing forced you to have a chat with him.

      2. The second incident this past week he should've left when you told him no, but you could've called the police then. Eventually he did leave, and didn't force entry, so I'm still not seeing the issue.

      The main problem is, again and I'm not making fun, that you can't seem to have normal interactions with your landlord without having a break down. That's not his problem to deal with.

      • +1

        So if some one walks onto your front yard and starts doing cartwheels for fun its okay and not trespassing?

        The landlord doesn't have the right to be loitering around the yard. Unless they tell op prior to comming.

        • +6

          And if someone walks up to the door, rings the doorbell and no one is home to answer, do I pin him against the ground and call the cops because he is trespassing and loitering?

          • @[Deactivated]: How would you do that you are not home? lol

            I would ask some one to leave my yard if they are not wanted.

            I think there is a big difference between some one selling you stuff and a landlord rocking up uninvited and snooping around? Why not text or email?

            • +1

              @aussieprepper:

              and snooping around?

              Except this didn't happen.

              • @HighAndDry: "The first instance, several years ago, he came into my house and started criticising the state of things and accusing me of damage"

                Come on he does do some snooping. Being in the house to fix stuff and doing an inspection are two different things?

                • @aussieprepper: He didn't go into the house the last two incidents the past week. Yes the first incident was egregious, I said as much elsewhere, but it was literally years ago and then never repeated.

                  I don't even know why the first incident is even relevant or brought up here at all.

                  • @HighAndDry: Yes but bringing a tiler and doing the tiles means he is inspecting/doing the work without a proper scheduled call? So he is snooping? Its not just inside the house he shouldn't be loitering around the yard either.

                    I do agree the police should have been called.

                    • +1

                      @aussieprepper: Actually he only brought the tilers - I don't think they did any work until OP actually agreed to give him a power lead. She shouldn't have done that - should've just called the police, or, better yet, said no, locked up and just went to work.

                      Should the landlord have given advance notice? Practically yes. Legally, it's actually fine for him to rock up and ask on the day. Then it's on OP to say no.

                      And practically, the landlord wanted to fix some external tiling - OP doesn't mention anything about being inconvenienced (other than that she decided to stick around until he left), it blocking a pathway, creating unreasonable noise or pollution, breaching her privacy (again - outside, visible to any passerby) or anything. Literally just the fact the landlord wanted to fix tiles.

                      • @HighAndDry: Yes they said they needed the power to be run from inside the house and OP waited the 2 hours for them to leave so they could lock up and got to work late.

                        • +1

                          @aussieprepper: Right - but at this point:

                          they said they needed the power to be run from inside the house

                          OP was free to say no, lock up, and go to work. Instead, she for some reason actually connected a power lead to a power point and gave that to them. Heck - you could even argue that was OP basically consenting to the landlord to go ahead with the repairs at that point.

                          • @HighAndDry: Some people can not deal with situations like this. She felt intimidated, if the home owner had gone through the right paths to do the work this never would have happen and the OP wouldn't have been put in this situation.

                            Plain and simple he rocked up and acted like a knob by refusing to leave and pressuring the OP to let him stay and do the work. Would you treat some one like this?

                            • @aussieprepper:

                              Some people can not deal with situations like this.

                              That's not the landlord's problem.

                              She felt intimidated

                              Unless the landlord did something which would have caused that feeling of intimidation in a reasonable person, that's still not the landlord's problem.

                              and the OP wouldn't have been put in this situation.

                              OP doesn't have a right not to be put in awkward situations.

                              Plain and simple he rocked up and acted like a knob by refusing to leave and pressuring the OP to let him stay and do the work.

                              Agreed on this point, but none of this is black and white illegal or breach of any regulations. He turned up, asked for a power lead, and as it turns out - OP agreed and gave him that power lead.


                              Look - if what the landlord did was wrong, every salesperson OP comes across would be guilty of the same thing. OP's anxiety issues making her incapable of dealing with (legal) pressure and stress is unfortunate and deserving of sympathy, but it doesn't give her extra rights or move the responsibility to anyone else. It's still her issue to address and deal with.

            • @aussieprepper: It does not have to be my home. If it is illegal, I can place a citizens arrest.

              Having said that, I would have to "trespass" to get to the offender, making myself an offender, attracting others to trespass to pin me down, which would make them also an offender…

          • +1
    • +4

      How do you get parcels delivered to your door? Do you report the delivery person for trespassing?

      • +1

        Anyone has a common law right to approach your front door. You may withdraw that right verbally or with a sign. If they are asked to leave and they don't have a lawful right to be there they are trespassing.

    • +1

      Consumer affairs is giving you the wrong info because here they are telling a landlord its ok to go up to a door unannounced and deliver a notice to vacate

      https://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/housing/renting/ending-a-lea…

  • Last incident sounds like trespass to me. Rocked up without notice, you immediately asked him to leave, and he refused to go? How long was he there?

    • I eventually gave him the power cable as he refused to leave and I didn't know what to do - there were 3 men. They stayed for over an hour.

      • +4

        was the "over an hour" the total time including fix? How long between the time that the landlord showed up asking for a power lead and the time that you granted him the power lead?

    • Actually agree with this - the landlord sticking around, even for just an hour, after being told to leave was trespass. But two problems for OP, being that the police are never going to prosecute something as minor as this, and OP can't sue civilly unless there's damages. Here, the opposite is true - the trespass resulted in a new dishwasher and fixed tiles for OP. There are no damages.

      • Incorrect, still no working dishwasher coming up on 2 months now and damages are that I was 2 hours late for work.

        • +3

          You more than likely won't get compensated for that small amount of time.

          You can try, no harm in trying..

          You should have called the police, 3 men loitering on the property after being told to go… as if that wasn't intimidating enough…

        • +1

          Did he bar you from leaving? If he did, that is unlawful detention and carry very serious consequences.

          • @[Deactivated]: Quite the contrary, he insisted I leave with the door still open since he was using the power cord, and that he would 'lock up when he is finished.'

            • @KimProbable: Refuse, lock the door, leave?

            • +6

              @KimProbable: So he didn't bar your exit. So you were late for work because you refused to leave as you would on any other day - lock the door and start walking.

              This conversation would sound a lot worse if you take it to small claims and you can hear these points being presented verbally.

              You'll have to take my word for it, I'm not trying to be condescending but imagine being in the room, a court if you will, and the facts are being laid bare and all subjectivity is inadmissible.

            • +2

              @KimProbable: So you gave him access to power cord? Why didn't you just tell him no, lock up and left for work. What was stopping you?

        • damages are that I was 2 hours late for work.

          But he didn't force you to stay. And again the right choice should've been to call the police, not your boyfriend (and certainly not to agree and give him the power lead he was asking for, which could be seen as you agreeing to the repairs). What did you expect your boyfriend to be able to do anyway?

          • -1

            @HighAndDry: 3 men with power tools, one of which who has disrespected Ops rights before (with previous unscheduled visits) Vs 1 women.

            It is called intimidation.

            It happens every day in Australian society. We should be standing up against and calling out this type of behaviour not excusing it and/or blaming the women.

            • +1

              @Eeples: Ah yes, landlord with workmen hoping to fix tiles on OP's porch. How intimidating.

      • +1

        Even though the police may not have prosecuted, the moment OP wants the landlord off the property and he refused to leave, the police would have removed the landlord and will even drag him out if it comes to that.

        The problem is the police were never informed and there are no official statements or witnesses. In the eyes of the law, it is he says she says and since OP is the want making the accusation, the burden of proof lies with her.

        Objectively, it is as you said elsewhere.

        1. Landlord shows up
        2. Problems are fixed or is being fixed.

        Everything else is just noise.

  • +13

    I would go see someone for your mental health if someone knocking at a door makes you break down.

    • No one really knows what OP has gone through in her life … Have a bit of empathy…

      • +9

        Empathy doesn't magically give OP more rights, which is what she wants. Nor does empathy actually help OP with her anxiety issues. Seeing a mental health professional is good advice. I'm more concerned OP already sees a mental health professional and this is as good as she gets.

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