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Something a little different, but after seeing a friend headed there, we realised there were flights going from Sydney/Brisbane:

Flights from Sydney:

$1130 - 26 Aug to 04 Sep - https://bookings.beatthatflight.com.au/flights/syd2608fnj040…
$1130 - 24 Aug to 02 Sep - https://bookings.beatthatflight.com.au/flights/syd2408fnj020…

Flights from Brisbane:

$1136 - 24 Aug to 02 Sep - https://bookings.beatthatflight.com.au/flights/bne2408fnj020…

A bit more expensive from Melbourne and other ports though.

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    • Duram on 26/02/2019 - 15:35
      +3

      I hope your clothes and gadgets are all 'oppressive free' considering majority are made in third world dictatorships or you know China.

    • poohduck on 26/02/2019 - 16:14

      Yes, you'd only be shopping or "seeing" where and what you were allowed to. You couldn't just wander around wherever you like.

  • ezza on 26/02/2019 - 15:00
    +1

    I was in Sth Korea recently.. our tour guide on a day tour suggested that you need 2 tour guides to be visiting Nrth Korea and you can't venture off yourself.

    • countmein on 26/02/2019 - 15:03
      +15

      Why 2? Other one as a backup?

      • ssp88 on 26/02/2019 - 15:06
        +1

        other one is a soldier/police to monitor

      • [Deactivated] on 26/02/2019 - 15:49
        +10

        So one doesn’t say: “So, tell me what the West is really like”.

        With two, if one does, the other will report him, and he (along with his extended family) will lose a level of loyalty status, and be sent off to a farm somewhere (every family and individual in North Korea is graded for loyalty and obedience, and only the most loyal are allowed in Pyongyang).

        • Donaldhump on 26/02/2019 - 18:10
          +1

          like the east german soldiers on the berlin wall. always in pairs in case one ran away the other one would shoot him…. so then they both ran away.

        • callum9999 on 26/02/2019 - 20:37

          The people there already know what the West is like… The people running these tours will be high up in the party and may even have internet access.

          Though everyone knows what it's like anyway given they watch South Korean TV and movies.

  • DogGunn on 26/02/2019 - 15:01
    +21

    I too like to help prop up and finance dictatorships.

    • ilikeit on 26/02/2019 - 15:12
      -2

      You forgot propaganda.

    • 00 on 26/02/2019 - 18:18
      +2

      Like paying for products from the Communist Party of China?

      • DogGunn on 26/02/2019 - 18:41

        Yup. Although that is unavoidable in daily life nowadays.

        • sexy on 26/02/2019 - 20:00
          +1

          Ohhhh China is more like a capitalist country nowadays .. I would suggest China Communist Party to change their name to China Socialist Party which makes more sense because they are not real Marxism-Leninism, they have their own thoughts in economics and society
          Of course lacking of democracy is another story to tell

          • minicat on 26/02/2019 - 20:20

            @sexy: They are worse.

          • callum9999 on 26/02/2019 - 23:45

            @sexy: It's a single party state. They may not really act like Communists any more, but that's what they are. If they were to change they'd either have to become a dictatorship or democracy - neither is really plausible!

        • callum9999 on 26/02/2019 - 23:49

          That's a cop out. You certainly could avoid things produced in cruel conditions (which isn't just China) - but it would involve effort and mean you'd have to go without some non-essentials. That makes you a hypocrite - especially as visiting North Korea has other potential benefits (all positive contact with "outsiders" can result in change).

          • DogGunn on 26/02/2019 - 23:52

            @callum9999: It isn't a cop out. It is impossible to avoid products from China (or other nations). Hell, in Victoria, the poles and wires are part owned by a Chinese corporation owned by their Government.

            especially as visiting North Korea has other potential benefits (all positive contact with "outsiders" can result in change).

            That doesn't happen with NK tourism. You only meet carefully selected people (who are all "upper class") on a carefully selected path. The money you spend there all goes to the regime and not your average citizen.

            Hypocrite or not, NK is not a place to support.

  • Kontiki on 26/02/2019 - 15:02
    +7

    Hopefully their planes are better quality than their rockets.

    In all seriousness, a friend of mine visited there and had a ball. He had to be accompanied by a tour guide at all times though.

    • incipient on 26/02/2019 - 15:06
      +4

      Their planes are rubbish. They should never be used.

      Air Koryo was the only one-star airline among 681 airlines rated and reviewed by Skytrax in 2014.[41] Air Koryo had held this rating for four years in a row.[42]

      • Elliott Uri Tours on 26/02/2019 - 17:33
        +5

        I fly Air Koryo regularly and the Skytrax rating is misleading. Skytrax rate aspects such as inflight entertainment, frequent flyer programs, inflight meals and foreign language proficiency of the flight attendants against other major airlines in the world. Air Koryo is certainly unique in these aspects, but as far as the actual flight experience is concerned, it's business as usual. Air Koryo also use Tupolev Tu-204 on their most regular route between Pyongyang and Beijing. There was a recent Air Koryo review on Australia Frequent Flyer worth reading if you're interested in further details.

        • incipient on 26/02/2019 - 23:48

          They were banned from EU airspace for a good while…

          The European Commission found evidence of serious safety deficiencies on the part of Air Koryo

          lack of transparency or communication on the part of Air Koryo

          To be fair, they have had their Tu-204 unbanned from Europe airspace in 2010.

          Oh but wait. This is awkward…

          "On 25 May 2017, an Air Koryo Tupolev Tu-204-300…the aircraft began to increasingly vibrate, forcing the plane to return to Pyongyang. Passengers reported parts falling off a wing."

          You want to fly them. Great. I'll stick with someone else =p (or catch the train internally)

    • scud70 on 26/02/2019 - 15:06

      hahaha the best…. maaaat daaaaaaamon

      • bdl on 26/02/2019 - 15:22
        +1

        maaaatttt daaamon

  • GG57 on 26/02/2019 - 15:03
    +4

    Seems expensive compared to this Beijing to Pyongyang for USD9 of a few years ago:
    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/151526#comment

    Maybe it covers the 'fat seats' option.
    And I can't find it now, but I'm sure there was an option to take 'pets' onboard.

  • Thatbargainhunter on 26/02/2019 - 15:03
    +1

    This deal is pointless unless you can line it up with tour dates or do a private tour.

    It would make much more sense.

    I got the train in (only from Dandong as I was already in the Dongbei) and flew out to Beijing with Air Koryo - which is an experience.

  • SnoozeAndLose on 26/02/2019 - 15:04

    Is accomandation included? How to book NK hotel?

    • thekensai on 26/02/2019 - 15:32
      -1

      no need. just grab the badge off the chest of anyone there and you'll get free accomodation and hit headline next day

  • helloeatty on 26/02/2019 - 15:05

    Just make sure you don’t take the proaganda slogan or there would be your one way ticket and free labor camp life experience

  • Spud McDoug on 26/02/2019 - 15:06
    +26

    but after seeing a friend headed there,

    I honestly read beheaded.

    • scud70 on 26/02/2019 - 15:07

      well even then.. someone has to go and collect the head i guess… apparently their postal service is horrible.

      • inamberclad on 26/02/2019 - 17:36
        +4

        Oh i didnt know they used Australia Post too!

        • scud70 on 26/02/2019 - 20:51

          Where do you think aus post support is baesd.. :P

    • teaserenn on 26/02/2019 - 15:13

      ditto, I was just about to post the same.

    • batrarobin on 26/02/2019 - 15:14

      Hahahahaha…same.

    • Snoozer on 26/02/2019 - 15:57

      Came here to say the same thing.

    • ChatCPT on 26/02/2019 - 16:00

      now i cannot unsee it. lolol

    • jubs on 26/02/2019 - 16:30

      I read same thing - why would you go there if your friend lost their head there

  • [Deactivated] on 26/02/2019 - 15:07

    What's the travel insurance situation like?

    • homersyd on 26/02/2019 - 15:07
      +2

      probably like your username but x100000

    • Thatbargainhunter on 26/02/2019 - 15:15
      -1

      It's not on DFATs do not travel list. As such, it is not a problem with most policies

  • ChatCPT on 26/02/2019 - 15:08
    +4

    How is this a deal? South Korea is $400 return. Im not paying triple that for a few k's up the road!

    • homersyd on 26/02/2019 - 15:13
      +4

      It might work if you can run like the bolt across the river/border all whilst dodging the bullets like in the matrix…

    • PleasureMe on 26/02/2019 - 15:49
      -3

      This is a stupid statement. Saudi Arabia is only a few k's up the road from Iraq and Yemen. Spain is only a few k's up from Morocco. Tunisia is only a few k's away from Italy. China is only a few k's up from Mongolia….. get the picture? Just because they are geographically close, that doesn't mean anything. They are two completely separate countries with two completely separate experiences.

      • KBZ on 26/02/2019 - 15:56
        +1

        /s

        • ChatCPT on 26/02/2019 - 15:59
          -2

          bahahaha some people

    • Donaldhump on 26/02/2019 - 15:55
      +1

      ill pay you the difference if you can catch a bus from seoul to pyongpang

      • ChatCPT on 26/02/2019 - 15:57

        I liked homersyd's idea of making a dash but $800 will that get me a North korean lawyer?

    • kaz09 on 26/02/2019 - 16:13
      +4

      SK is 400 return ??????????????/ where

      • Griffindinho on 26/02/2019 - 16:49

        Now every Ozbarginer is off to SK

    • Spark7 on 26/02/2019 - 16:59

      $400 return to South Korea? Are there any from Sydney? That would be an amazing deal

  • Pzkfw5 on 26/02/2019 - 15:09

    How do you even get visas to visit there?

    • bazinga8888 on 26/02/2019 - 15:14

      If you are a singapore citizen, it's visa free.

      • lubos on 26/02/2019 - 15:30
        +1

        If you are Australian citizen, I wouldn't risk it. Isn't Australia still officially at war with North Korea?

        • JetBombat on 26/02/2019 - 19:35

          But your upvote

      • TerryJustTerry on 26/02/2019 - 15:33

        and if you are aussie ?

      • Elliott Uri Tours on 26/02/2019 - 17:58
        +1

        This isn't true. If visiting for tourism on a normal passport, all nationalities currently require a visa.

    • Elliott Uri Tours on 26/02/2019 - 17:46

      To visit as a tourist, you must visit on a tour arranged by an authorised tour operator. We arrange all visas for our travelers and the majority of them are issued (as separate paper cards) in Beijing. Travelers then meet us in Beijing and we're off to Pyongyang. But in the case of this deal, because this is a connected Air China flight straight through to Pyongyang from Australia, and Australia doesn't have a DPRK Embassy, the visa would need to be issued in Beijing and sent to Australia to fulfill check-in requirements.

  • adrianhughes1998 on 26/02/2019 - 15:12

    I wonder if this is cheaper than Turkmenistan and their regime going on there

    • Thatbargainhunter on 26/02/2019 - 15:17
      +3

      I found North Korea more interesting than Turkmenistan. Although Turkmenistan you can travel independent (like I did) on a 5 day transit visa between Iran and Uzbekistan. The darvaza gas crater is amazing to see though.

      • adrianhughes1998 on 26/02/2019 - 15:26

        good stuff, yeah I am in two minds going to Turkmenistan cos apart from the gas crater it just looks boring. Did Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan last year so not expecting much different. Djibouti early next year for me, I'm just trying to figure out where to fly to next from there…

        • Thatbargainhunter on 26/02/2019 - 15:56
          +1

          Yeah Turkmenistan was my least favourite of the Central Asian Stans (I did not go to Kazakhstan). Kyrgyzstan is amazing, hope you liked it. Tajikistan is also very very beautiful and interesting.

          • adrianhughes1998 on 26/02/2019 - 16:46

            @Thatbargainhunter: yeah Kazakhstan is more upmarket and fairly cosmopolitan compared to Kyrgyzstan. very easy to get around and I settled in nicely. did find a lot of people rude there though.

            that being said, I love Kyrgyzstan in comparison. nice people and stunning scenery. stayed out at lake issy-kul just out of Bokonbayevo.

            I've been to finland and Iceland years ago, but Kyrgyzstan is my favourite place in the world by a huge margin

  • TigerWoops on 26/02/2019 - 15:13

    They write "tourist" and "read' spy if they want. No return then.

  • DarkOz on 26/02/2019 - 15:19
    +6

    seeing a friend headed there

    Did you ever see your friend return?

    • [Deactivated] on 26/02/2019 - 15:21

      OP meant beheaded.

  • FrozenFred on 26/02/2019 - 15:20
    +1

    How tempting. Flying China which is very safe and visiting north Korea which is also very safe. Win win

    • Bargain80 on 27/02/2019 - 12:33

      can you bring me some of their propaganda poster please?

  • k3nnis on 26/02/2019 - 15:20

    Is there business class to Pyongyang?

    • ssp88 on 26/02/2019 - 16:08

      yup

  • neostarsx on 26/02/2019 - 15:20

    Bring some spare flags so you don't have to steal any.

  • Toons on 26/02/2019 - 15:24

    Beat that Flight, hmmmm "Absolutely Anywhere" that doesn't have a madman at the helm and a wonky Nuclear Program who occasionally shoots missiles over neighbouring countries.

  • Samsungnote10 on 26/02/2019 - 15:25
    +2 
    Something a little different, but after 
 seeing a friend HEADED

    Far out, i need therapy, i read that as my friend got beheaded

  • Yummy on 26/02/2019 - 15:25

    Flight to NK, just to get beat up there.
    Good dealio!

  • nadan on 26/02/2019 - 15:27

    I rather go on the train with Uncle Kim.

  • Dr Cheapo on 26/02/2019 - 15:28

    Definitely great value lol

    Upvote this shiz

  • Onysius on 26/02/2019 - 15:31
    +2

    I went to NK on a 5 day tour in 2010, just after the Cheonan incident, and it was definitely "interesting".
    We had to wait in Dandong for our entry visas, which were not issued until the day before the tour was to start.
    If you are an APS employee, or require a high level Security clearance, it would be advisable to check first if/how travelling to NK will affect your clearance.

    • You will also need a multi entry Visa for China.
  • HighAndDry on 26/02/2019 - 15:33

    Something a little different, but after seeing a friend headed there

    How long ago was this and has the friend come back?

  • mr_vino89 on 26/02/2019 - 15:33
    +2

    thanks OP, honey moon destination sorted :)

  • Hinee on 26/02/2019 - 15:34
    -1

    If anyone is actually interested in this deal, I have a friend who moved to Asia years ago and ended up becoming a tour guide that does trips to the DPRK/. A very interesting place to visit…

  • fairyfloss on 26/02/2019 - 15:34
    +1

    Go there for a week, come back to Australia and for the rest of the year feels like a holiday working 6 days a week, 12 hour shifts.

  • cristtos on 26/02/2019 - 15:37

    Came here for the comments…
    i like the significant up-vote!

  • Gorodemon on 26/02/2019 - 15:38

    Great deal, please tell Chairman Kim that I'm coming with Dennis Rodman and Donald Trump.

  • CI on 26/02/2019 - 15:40
    +1

    Thanks been waiting for this deal

  • k3nnis on 26/02/2019 - 15:50
    +2

    Does Uncle Kim support the Houston Rockets???

  • lplau on 26/02/2019 - 15:55
    +1

    Only upvoting for the dark comedy value.

  • Lord Fart Bucket on 26/02/2019 - 15:55
    +3

    Shouldn’t travel here: https://smartraveller.gov.au/Countries/asia/north/Pages/nort…

    Even if you think that’s fun, you’d be supporting an idiot that oppresses his own people.

    • Thatbargainhunter on 26/02/2019 - 16:01
      +5

      Iran is also on the same category but one of the safest places on the planet

      This category is generally used for countries where the Australian government is limited in its ability to offer consular assistance - not for any real danger.

      You really should be more educated about DFAT advice notices, before making such ridiculous comments.

      • DogGunn on 26/02/2019 - 16:08
        +2

        Iran is also on the same category but one of the safest places on the planet

        Oh please.
        There is a real danger of arbitrary detention in both Iran and NK, because of sanctions placed by Australia on these countries.

        • Thatbargainhunter on 26/02/2019 - 16:12
          -2

          Please point Ronan example of an Australian (excluding dual nationals) that have been detained in either country? Don't spread bullshit.

          • DogGunn on 26/02/2019 - 16:16
            -1

            @Thatbargainhunter: Why excluding dual nationals?
            Because Iran refuses to recongise that people can have citizenship of another nation, except where it can help relieve sanctions?

            Meanwhile, here's a nice list relating to North Korea for you:
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_nationals_deta…

            • Thatbargainhunter on 26/02/2019 - 16:22

              @DogGunn: Dual nationals are considered locals and treated differently to foreigners.

              I am not denying in many cases it can be a significant danger for dual nationals to return to these countries.

              John Short is the only Australian who has been detained. This was not arbitrary. He was a missiomary - which is a serious crime in North Korea.

              So please give me an example.

              • DogGunn on 26/02/2019 - 16:27
                -1

                @Thatbargainhunter:

                Dual nationals are considered locals and treated differently to foreigners.
                I am not denying in many cases it can be a significant danger for dual nationals to return to these countries.

                Sounds like a lovely and safe place to go. Feel free to support a country that treats its own citizens like dirt.

                John Short is the only Australian who has been detained. This was not arbitrary. He was a missiomary - which is a serious crime in North Korea.

                So serious, those poor North Koreans. There are of course Americans that have been detained for doing almost nothing in NK. There have not been substantial numbers of Australians travelling to NK. It will be bound to happen to someone at some point if numbers keep growing.

                In the end, the essence of your argument is that it is okay for Australians to support dictatorships and theocracies when DFAT says don't go unless you have to. Not a strong argument.

                • Thatbargainhunter on 26/02/2019 - 16:31
                  -2

                  @DogGunn: While I don't have figures. There are far more Australian a travelling to North Korea than any other country. significantly more than Americans when they were allowed
                  (Americans are now banned from visiting by their own government and no tour companyany will take them either).

                  • DogGunn on 26/02/2019 - 16:33

                    @Thatbargainhunter: That's right, because the threat of arbitrary detention was so great, that the tour companies finally decided to enforce the ban the Americans had.

                    If Australians are visiting greater numbers than any other country, guess that means we're the next best target. After all, we are great allies of America.

                    • abctoz on 26/02/2019 - 16:54
                      +1

                      @DogGunn: how is detention arbitrary? the very wikipedia article you linked provided a reason for each detention, so far one Australian has been detained for "Unauthorized religious activity", for a period of 15 days

                      4000-6000 western tourists visit North Korea each year

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