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Pixel can't take macro photos, it's aperature is fixed, it's video recording is below mid range phones,it over processes photos for social sharing. If that's all you want, any phone can do that. Pixel is a poor travelling camera also, as it's optical zoom is so weak.
Pixel can't take macro photos, it's aperature is fixed,
How many phones do you know have variable aperture? How much do those phones cost?
it's video recording is below mid range phones
If you've only read reviews then you might come to that conclusion. If you've actually owned one, you'll realise that it's fine. You're not shooting a film with your phone, you're just capturing random moments.
it over processes photos for social sharing.
That's a highly subjective thing. The Pixel phones are renowed for their image processing. Clearly your tastes differ to the majority which is fine, just keep in mind that a lot of people highly regard the Pixel's camera for a good reason.
Pixel is a poor travelling camera also, as it's optical zoom is so weak.
You're assuming everybody wants to zoom when travelling. I don't even own a zoom lens for my mirrorless cameras as it's usually landscapes that I take.
@eug: S8, s9, s10 as examples with variable aperature.
I own p3xl. I've owned every pixel and Nexus. I base my findings off direct experience only. I took my p3xl as my sole camera on a holiday and it was a huge mistake.
It's not subjective about processing photos. Have you tried night mode? Have you seen how blue it makes the sky?
Anyway glad you can make do with the most basic of cameras. My mirrorless digital has 40x zoom lol. Not sure what digital cameras don't have these basic things. I still prefer my iPhone 8 photos over any of my pixels, I prefer nice photos rather than over saturated over processes photos.
S8, s9, s10 as examples with variable aperature.
And how much do those phones cost? This phone is $659.
Can you describe the realistic benefits you will gain from having a variable aperture on a phone that is used for happy snaps?
I've owned every pixel and Nexus. I base my findings off direct experience only.
OK, so how do you know that other phones are better if you've only used the Pixel and Nexus?
It's not subjective about processing photos. Have you tried night mode? Have you seen how blue it makes the sky?
Did you compare your night sight shot with another phone in the same setting? Was it the subject you were shooting, or the phone? How do you know other phones will do better?
DPReview compared the Pixel 3's Night Sight to the iPhone 11's night mode. Same scenes, two different phones. OP was asking if his iPhone 8, which is several generations behind, is comparable to the Pixel 3. When it comes to night mode, that direct comparison alone shows how good the Pixel 3 is.
Anyway glad you can make do with the most basic of cameras.
No idea how you came to that conclusion. We were talking about phone cameras. You don't know what mirrorless camera and lenses I have either.
My mirrorless digital has 40x zoom lol.
Photographers typically frown at such high zooms as it means to maintain a reasonable size, the camera will have a tiny sensor and the lens will have a tiny aperture - which means poorer low-light performance leading to noisy images.
But those 40x zoom cameras do have their place. Everyone has different requirements after all.
Not sure what digital cameras don't have these basic things.
I personally would never buy a digital camera with a fixed built-in 40x zoom lens. I prefer using higher-quality fast lenses on a larger-sensor camera. I wouldn't recommend that to everybody though, it depends on their needs.
I still prefer my iPhone 8 photos over any of my pixels, I prefer nice photos rather than over saturated over processes photos.
Are you viewing the photos on the individual phones itself, or on a calibrated monitor?
Have you compared your Pixel 3's Night Sight to your iPhone 8 in the same dark scene?
@onlinepred: Heh, I've been on forums enough to know that comparisons like this are pointless. It's easy to cherry-pick photos that make one phone look better than another.
@eug: Literally just took both phones out and took a picture. Funny hey how much variable aperature makes a difference. Such a basic camera feature too.
Peace out mate!
@onlinepred: A larger aperture on a phone camera will give you more subject separation only if the camera is close to your subject. If you're standing farther back, you will not see much difference as everything will be in focus. The Pixel photo has a different angle of view as well - it looks like you're trying to compare the single-camera Pixel to a dual-camera Samsung that costs more. The Samsung would use its zoom lens to enhance the effect. That's why I said it's easy to take photos that make specific aspects of a camera look good… or bad.
Such a basic camera feature too.
So basic that only one current phone family has it?
Now, to actually answer the OP's question, can you take that exact same shot with your iPhone 8? And one more time with the Pixel 3 but without portrait mode, to keep it the same.
@eug: S10e cost me $710 1 month after release. Significantly cheaper than any pixel shortly after release. No zoom lens.
I don't have my iPhone 8 anymore. When I look back on it's photos I always wish I keep it.
And no, both phones were at the same distance.
Moral of the story, pixel isn't the be all and end all, it's just what people like to call accurate, not better.
And no, both phones were at the same distance.
Just had a look at the EXIF data. Both photos were taken with the S10e.
Did you take both photos with the S10e on the 6th of October, 29 seconds apart, but turned on portrait mode for the second photo and named it "Pixel2XL" to try and mislead the discussion?
You had to look at exit data to see what phones they were taken from…..
What does that have to do with anything? Nice attempt in trying to deflect the fact that you outright lied to try and "win" on the internet. It's quite unfortunate that you had to stoop so low.
And no, both phones were at the same distance.
Moral of the story, pixel isn't the be all and end all, it's just what people like to call accurate, not better.
Moral of the story - blatantly lying to try and prove your opinion reflects poorly on your character and credibility.
Your opinions are just as valid as anyone elses as we all have different requirements when it comes to taking photos. But it doesn't mean that your opinion is valid for everybody else - that is why I started by saying it depends on what kind of photos the OP wants to take. You did not have to resort to lying to make everyone think your opinion is the only one that is correct.
@eug: S10e cost me $710 1 month after release. Significantly cheaper than any pixel shortly after release. No zoom lens.
I don't have my iPhone 8 anymore. When I look back on it's photos I always wish I kept it.
And no, both phones were at the same distance.
Moral of the story, pixel isn't the be all and end all, it's just what people like to call accurate, not better.
We had photos after a birthday dinner, and my friends iPhone turned out so bad conspired to my mates compact camera he brought. The photos turned out amazing! Nothing really beats a real camera, esp in low light.
My experience, point and click and photos turn out good. I mean my old Panasonic compact from 15 years ago took good shots in clubs vs even my Pixel with Nightshift which you have to hold very still.
Unfortunately being a bloke, who wants to carry an extra camera around.
@[Deactivated]: Yep exactly. If your care about photo quality to the nth degree that so many people here seem to require, use a camera. Otherwise nearly any phone can do the job really well.
We had photos after a birthday dinner, and my friends iPhone turned out so bad conspired to my mates compact camera he brought. The photos turned out amazing!
I don't think iPhones have been good in low light for a while. A compact camera with a good sensor like the RX100 series will be much cleaner than a phone in those situations (low light with motion) as the phone can't do its long exposure tricks. The phone will have watercolour-looking photos from the heavy noise reduction. But the RX100 costs more than many phones.
My experience, point and click and photos turn out good. I mean my old Panasonic compact from 15 years ago took good shots in clubs vs even my Pixel with Nightshift which you have to hold very still.
Did you use a flash with that Panasonic compact? I had a few Panasonics and weren't too impressed with them. The Sony TX series of compacts were game-changing when they started using their Exmor R sensor. It did use similar multi-exposure processing tricks for its low-light mode though.
@eug: Here you go. Compare these guys. I took them a while back to compare night mode on each phone. P2xl vs s10e. These are actually pixel and s10e photos. Imo I wouldn't like the pixel photos in any scenario.
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@eug: All good. Just don't go telling people pixels are the best, or that they are as capable as a digital camera, or that it can replace a digital camera, as you would also be lying.
@onlinepred: Read my first post again. A Pixel can be better. It is not definitely better in all situations. As I said - it depends on the type of photo.
@eug: Out of like 1000 photos it might be better a few times. I'll give you that. If all you do is take photos at night, then pixel 3 or iPhone 11 pro is there way to go. Otherwise if you take majority day shots, then most other flagship offer better value and more features and ability.
I have to say, I have had the Pixel 2 XL for about 18 months and have had many problems with the charging and it has driven me insane! Sometimes PD works, then it doesn't and it takes forever to charge USB A to C. That said, the camera is stunning and operating system is pretty good. My next phone will have wireless charging and I'm thinking I'll be going back to iPhone!
Is the USB cable definitely OK? The charger?
Been through multiple cables, chargers etc and it appears the cable that came with the phone has done something to disable PD charging. Very strange because there is no visible damage to it. The charging problems are well documented in Google, Reddit etc and is definitely the biggest flaw with this phone.
This one or samsung A70? Currently I use oppo r9s and happy with it except bluetooth problem when calling. So decide to jump but….which one? Leaning to A70…
Is it just me or does the site picture a 3A (no notch) not the 3 (has notch)?
Just ignore me - I was thinking of the 3XL.
Nowadays I think it depends on what kind of photos you want to take. For everyday happy snaps that don't need long zooms, I think phones can be better than a point and shoot camera. Of course a $2,500 camera with a fast prime lens can give much better results, but not everyone could be bothered learning how to use anything other than the green square.
When it comes to features like Night Sight and artificial depth of field, a phone can give far better handheld results than even a Sony RX-series camera - and that's not a cheap camera. The Pixel 4's astrophotography capabilities look interesting too, can't wait to see how such a tiny sensor and lens will fare.
I think a phone will have faaaar more features than a point-and-shoot camera. You can send photos immediately over WhatsApp, apply all sorts of filters, do some editing in Lightroom, post on social media, backup immediately to the cloud, etc.