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Seagate 10TB Expansion Desktop Hard Drive $291.96 + Delivery (Free with Prime) @ Amazon US via AU

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Looks like the price for the Seagate Expansion 10TB (STEB10000400) got adjusted today as it was circa $307 when I checked this morning. It's now better than the end of the last deal in June 2020 where it was hovering around $297, but keep in mind that this is fulfilled by Amazon US and hence the price will likely fluctuate on a day to day basis.

At $29.196 per TB for what is potentially a Seagate Barracuda Pro 7200rpm drive which is surprisingly rated as compatible for NAS use by Synology, this could be a great bargain way to fill your NAS! This is substantially cheaper than local bricks and mortar stock pricing which ranges from $375ish (JB Hifi - when I asked for a deal) to $448 (Harvey Norman weren't willing to budge from sticker price).

On a related note, Shopback/Cashrewards appears to still be tracking on Computing category devices so you may get 5% off!

Note this is not the cheapest it has been where it was once $275 but given the current market conditions, I think this is as good as it'll get for the time being. And don't worry you don't need to be kind to me.

EDIT 13/07/2020 - Shopback
Just got my Shopback of $13.27 making this net $278.69. Unfortunately I've already maxed out my monthly Suncorp Benefits discounted Amazon egift cards so couldn't get the further 3% off :(

EDIT 28/07/2020
Price has fallen to $285.55 (maybe combine with the $3 Cashrewards bonus on Amazon for even more cashback goodness?)

And kellyly has received an Seagate Exos X16 10TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 3.5-Inch Enterprise Hard Drive (ST10000NM001G) inside their expansion drive.

EDIT 29/07/2020
My drive arrived today and I also got the ST10000NM001G-2MW103 drive. Looks like there is a bit of a lottery going on! And in case anyone is still asking, yes it does come with the AU plug (and interestingly, an AU consumer guarantee slip).

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Given there is a new deal posted at the current lower price of $283.75, I will mark this deal as expired. Gotta love a strengthening AUD!

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  • +2

    I ordered this and now the big debate over whether I swap it with the 8TB WD white labelled drive in my PC since if it's a Barracuda Pro (ST10000DM0004), it would also make a great desktop PC drive too, and the WD could go into my NAS RAID.

          • +3

            @maybe a bot: The point is, any of the HDD manufacturers can shaft you at any time. The only reason everyone is hating on WD is because they were the ones who were dumb enough to do it to a line of hard drives that were specifically marketed at NAS use and burned their consumers. This doesn't mean Seagate nor Toshiba won't do something as stupid in the future.

            If anything, how WD handle it from here is where it makes or breaks their trust. They've published their full list of SMR drives, they've agreed to replace SMR red drives with CMR drives for those affected and have now made it clear which drives are SMR and which drives aren't SMR in their consumer line up. As long as the drives don't fail prematurely at a high rate, that's good enough for me to continue buying WD. Because tomorrow all 3 manufactures can still burn you with the next trick they have up their sleeve.

  • +1

    I bought one of these recently. Great little drive, working fine. Can be a little noisy if not well isolated (vibrates when spinning up).

    • +1

      Awesome, which drive was inside? (you can check using Crystal Disk Info)

      Most people seem to indicate the 10TB variant (i.e. this one) has the Barracuda Pro ST10000DM0004 inside which is a bit of a unicorn in terms of being rated for a very high endurance.

      • +1

        I’ll check in the morning.

      • +3

        As far as I know, the 10TB are only Barracuda Pros. This was for both the Seagate's 10TB expansion and backup plus drives.

      • +1

        Disk checked, it’s one of these: ST10000DM0004. Barracuda Pro 7200rpm.

    • +5

      Ordered from last deal. It’s a Barracuda Pro ST10000DM0004 inside.

      • +1

        Yep had the same drive from last deal. It’s been performing pretty well, much faster than my smaller WD’s, tempted to buy another one

        • I'm tempted too but don't want to pay more than the $270 I spent in December.

  • +1

    My $129 10TB Wester Digital from Amazon last year has ruined these deals for me.

  • +4

    You're guaranteed to not get a Barracuda but at the very least a Barracuda Pro as there's not Barracuda drives bigger than 8TB.

  • +11

    i bought one in june and just tear it down for you guys, it is a 10tb barracuda pro.
    https://ibb.co/BNSnTKS

    • +4

      You should block out your serial number. Just as a precaution in case someone claims RMA with it and affects you in future.

  • what do you do with these drives? Is online storage much cheaper (albeit slower)?

    • +1

      Linux distros!

      Photos, videos, media projects, steam and game library.

      Online storage is usually an ongoing subscription. It might work for some people but not those with large media libraries and/or crappy internet.

    • Bluray backups. Discs get scratched

      • -2

        back them up from the internet with utorrent. Lol

        • +2

          That doesnt usually last long when all the seeders are gone after a year or 2.

      • That's my goal too - even bought a USB bluray drive. Now I just need to get a decent workflow going for ripping, converting and cataloguing them into Synology Video Station.

    • +1

      Online storage is a not a viable option for me due to the crippled upload speeds on most residential broadband plans.

      On my current Telstra Cable plan (100/5) it would take me nearly 7 months of 24/7 uploading to backup 10TB to the cloud. Even when I boost my upload speed to 25 Mbps when I switch to the NBN soon it'd take me over a month to upload that amount.

      • +1

        If you're eligible for Telstra Air, you could always try using one of their good public hotspots (typically Telstra stores). I tried it in Bondi Junction a while back and got 200+ uploads.

        Whirlpool even has a listing (but it's probably a bit out of date): https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/telstra_air

        • +1

          Thanks for the suggestion! It's definitely something I'll look into. (I'm imagining myself sitting outside a Telstra store with my laptop and a few hard drives. Hah.) I did manage to backup about 1TB of the most important stuff to the cloud last year using a ridiculously fast hotel internet connection in Norway. :)

          • +1

            @DisabledUser292661: Haha I did a similar thing when I was travelling in Taiwan and was shocked at how fast the in-room internet speed was (with both wifi and a cable).

    • +2

      Online storage costs way more generally, especially after you pass the 1TB mark. Also clouds good for mass storage scenarios where performance isn’t important, but many scenarios need local drives such as storing games for a console or PC.

      When you start looking at cloud storage options that support 10TB or more, along with the cost to store the data you begin to find many services also charge either for the upload or the retrieval of the data. You’ll generally be in the realm of business plans at this point.

      Up to 1TB or so there’s a fair few consumer friendly options however. I’m sure there’s some above that, but it drops off quickly.

      • +2

        Depending on how much effort you're willing to go into and what you actually want to use it for, and an idea which I did toy with, is the Office 365 Home plans for 5 people (the ones usually found on OzBargain for around $80-$90 for one year subscription) could in theory be used to create 5x 1TB OneDrive accounts, and whilst Windows doesn't have an easy way to manage multiple personal OneDrive accounts in an integrated manner, you might be able to use a third party tool/sync program (eg GoodSync) to do the same.

        • this is what I'm doing and you actually get 6x1TB accounts. Then filezilla pro to directly FTP into each of them.

        • Apparently one of the Google Drive options under a GSuite account on paper has a limit but in practice they don’t restrict or police that. I wouldn’t want to rely on that for anything other than backups though in case they start policing it.

          • +1

            @Smigit: I have 117 TB and run Plex off it.

            • @dualcore: Yep. Sure it works. I just wouldn't go that route for anything you cant live without in case Google was to clamp down. Realistically if they did they'd likely make it read only so you could still get data off.

              At that sort of volume you're saving so much and deriving that much value that I think it'd be easy to justify $5 or so a month for another service to backup important files (documents and photos) separate to multimedia, assuming you can just throw those files on a free service.

              (Thats one hell of a Plex collection)

              • @Smigit: This is exactly what I'm doing. Backblaze (~$9AUD/month) for some media files but mostly important files and backups + GSuite (~$17AUD/month) for basically everything.

  • This or the 12TB WD? apart from the 2TB capacity difference?

    • +3

      You'd get better performance - 7200rpm vs 5400rpm.
      Both helium filled too.
      You might also run into the 3.3V pin issue with the WD drive.

      • +1

        Is the WD 5400rpm? I thought they are both 7200rpm, glad I asked then.
        Thanks

        • +1

          Fairly sure it is a white labelled red drive which is WD's NAS range. Happy for someone to correct me if I'm wrong.
          Can't go wrong either way to be fair.

          I went with the Seagate back in December as I've had good experiences (avoided the 3TB which had large failure rates).

          • @Caped Baldy: Ordered one of this.

            • +1

              @nadan: Depends on what you plan to use it for. If you're planning to use it in a NAS, just remember you may not necessarily want 7200rpm, and whether it's a 5400rpm or 7200rpm drive may not actually matter when it comes to your NAS speeds/network capacity.

              For desktop use though, doesn't get much better than the Barracuda Pro 10TB according to various reviews.

              • +1

                @jace88: I'm in two minds actually, whether or not to use in my desktop. I might use it as is external and chug my WD 4TB.

    • +1

      I've been wondering the same for the past month!

      I bought a couple of the 12TB WDs for my Synology NAS, and then for my third drive am debating between using an old WD80EZAZ (shucked from an 8TB MyBook) or using the Barracuda Pro 10TB from this.

      Barracuda Pro 10TB seems to have especially good reviews, and is rated as being compatible by Synology (it's the only desktop class HDD they've listed). It appears to have really high endurance ratings for a consumer drive, and it's also been reviewed very positively for both speeds and power consumption.

      My dilemma is I use the WD80EZAZ as a Steam drive in my PC and every now and then it's a little slow to spin up being a 5400rpm drive.

      Once my Seagate drive arrives, I'll do my usual Hard Drive Sentintel tests but then need to decide which one goes into the NAS vs which one in my desktop!

  • +7

    'wHaT wILL yOU eVen Use THESE FOR'

    I see comments like this on every such deal. My movie collection is over 40TB alone. And yes, I also store these on an unlimited Gsuite drive online. However, nothing beats having copies of your media stored locally. Especially when you're playing high quality files (remux 4k, etc), you don't want to worry about buffering or any other issues that may arise when trying to plex media stored on remote servers. Local storage is best. And you're also in control, you're not relying on remote provider.

    Also, just to confirm from the four of these I've bought that they were all 'Barracuda Pro ST10000DM0004'. Great quality drives. I run 3 in the array, and the fourth is the parity drive. They run along side a bunch of Red NAS (CMR) 3TB, and some others, on my UnRaid server.

  • +1

    Recently I have steered away from Seagate because the shucked 4TB and 8TB drives I purchased were SMR, and instead gone with Western Digital. Thanks to others for pointing out that the 10TB drive is a premium PMR drive.

    If you just want to archive a movie collection, shingled SMR is fine, but if you move data around regularly you want PMR. SMR has abysmal re-write speeds compared to PMR.

  • can I use this with Synology DS918+ NAS. The NAS already has 2x8TB WD Red drives in RAID mode. The other 2 slots are empty.

    • Should be able to… assuming the drive inside which you need to shuck is the Seagate Barracuda Pro 10TB ST10000DM0004. Usually any drive should work but this one is explicitly listed on the Synology compatibility charts.

      • Thank you

  • Can confirm that the following is inside as I bought two of these on the last deal:
    Seagate 10TB Barracuda Pro 7200RPM SATA 6GB/s 256MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Hard Drive (ST10000DM0004)
    https://www.amazon.com.au/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Interna...

  • if you shuck these, they're ready to go right? you don't need to do anything crazy like soldering joints etc?

    • Nothing crazy like that. I found that shucking these drives isn't as easy as WD ones and the Seagate Backup Plus though.
      Here's the video I used https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0DevtBXP6A

      • Haven't got mine yet but in all fairness, the WD Elements drives are so ridiculously easy to shuck compared to various other enclosures that it'll be hard to beat that level of one old plastic card can do it all.

        • +1

          I guess that's true. When I first tried to open one of these I was just caught off guard by how difficult it was compared to WD. I'm usually terrified of damaging the drive as well so it was a tedious process for me. It's not that bad once you get used to it though.

  • +3

    OK. Someone explain this lol https://imgur.com/a/jo0tDVL

    • +1

      LOL saw someone share this on Facebook (and that's how I figure out which of my friends follow OzBargain).

      • such a weird combo haha

        • +4

          I'd say it depends what content you are planning to be storing on 10TB…. ;)

  • How hard are these to shuck for someone that is pretty average at best when it comes to computers?

    I've never shucked a HDD before, and I only have basic knowledge of computer stuff

    • +1

      easy mate, if you have no value in the case it takes all of 5 minutes, i recommend using a old membership card to loosen the clips :)

      • So it just has your standard sata connection? No need to mod it like the WD's?

        • standard drive inside :)

  • How do these compare to the Ironwolf range?

    • +2

      In general, Ironwolf is the NAS range designed for use in RAID arrays, 24x7 usage/high endurance, etc. with specific features (eg anti vibration sensors) and firmware features…. the usual spiel of NAS drives vs desktop/consumer drives.

      It just so happens, Tom's Hardware did a review and compared the two drives. Refer to: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seagate-barracuda-pro-1...

      Some relevant extracts but taken without the context of the corresponding graphs in the above article:

      We chose other high-capacity 7,200-RPM products for comparison. The Seagate IronWolf is very similar to the BarraCuda Pro, but it implements technologies designed to enhance performance in servers and NAS that experience higher levels of vibration than a normal desktop PC.

      Seagate's own marketing material claims the BarraCuda Pro is the fastest consumer HDD on the market. The sequential read test shows almost that. The Seagate IronWolf and IronWolf Pro came to market shortly after the BarraCuda and BarraCuda Pro. In some of our tests, the IronWolf (non-Pro) outperforms the BarraCuda Pro.

      We noticed the IronWolf has consistent performance but the BarraCuda Pro exhibits much more variation. The inconsistent sequential write performance appears to come from the advanced cache system that flushes data to the platters. Seagate designed the BarraCuda Pro for consumer use, and those workloads tend to be bursty in nature. Multi-tier cache is great for burst performance, but sustained workloads expose a slight weakness.

      • Ahh sweet. Thanks mate. I figured it may not be as good for my use case (Plex server with pretty much non stop usage on it). Cheers for the info. i'll wait for another Ironwolf deal!

  • +2

    Last international Seagate external HDD I got from Amazon came with all the adapters for the power points so I could just use the aus one without a converter.

    • Same mine did too, about 4 or 5

  • What’s the lowest price these have gone for historically

    • +1

      Circa $260 last year according to Price Camel (click on the "CamelCamelCamel" camel icon below the deal at the top).

      Or if you're looking for OzBargain posts, click on the related products link in the top right (next to the deal itself) and in recent times, I could find $265 > https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/519514

  • Does anyone know if you can get an AU power adapter from Seagate for this like you can with WD external desktop drives?

  • Does Shopback work with the Amazon usa store?

    If so someone pm me a shopback referral for signup

    • It'll work with Amazon US via AU (like this deal), but I don't think it works with amazon.com directly anymore. It used to!

      • yeah neither cashback does with .com,
        sucks coz amazon AU doesn't deliver to NZ lol

        • yeah that's tough. I was stationed in NZ for work and noted that tech & gaming prices there are quite a bit dearer than Australia I felt.

          • @jace88: Yeah most definitely and with Covid shipping prices have gone up more :(

  • Mine finally shipped today on 18/7 (after ordering on 12/7) with an ETA of 8/8/2020.

    I was feeling optimistic but then saw it's being delivered by Fastway… fingers crossed. My last two hard drive orders from Amazon US were delivered by FedEx.

  • Anyone else still waiting for their order to be charged to their CC/Account? mines still in ordered limbo, feel like the gonna cancel the order :'(

    • Mine is en route so they've already charged me.

  • +2

    I ordered on the 19/7 and just received mine.
    HD Sentinel is reporting that the drive is a ST10000NM001G

    • +1

      Isn't that the Seagate Exos X16 10TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 3.5-Inch Enterprise Hard Drive (ST10000NM001G)? If so, winning.

      • +1

        Yup :)
        It's going into a server to replace my aging 8TB SMR HDD for backup.
        I actually ordered it on the 13/7 so one day later than you.

        • I just checked my order history before reading your comment wondering how'd yours get there so quickly… mine was ordered 12/7 but it's still en route. Thanks Fastway.

          • +2

            @jace88: I just opened it up and it's got the EXOS Enterprise label on it so defo a win lol

  • +2

    Just received mine today (ordered on the 13/07). Drive is a ST10000DM0004.

  • +1

    I received mine today 29/7 and it has the ST10000NM001G-2MW103 drive as well! Yay.

    CrystalDiskInfo: https://ibb.co/QPYZjmf

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