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Core-i7 10700F Gaming PC with No GPU: $899 + Delivery @ TechFast

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Hi folks,

This is the Intel version of the R5-3600 and R7-3700X deals with no GPU, posted Friday, intended as a RTX 3070/3080 (with 750W Gold PSU upgrade) ready build, but you can install whichever GPU you want. There are lots of good prices on higher tier cards around on OzB, and we can also install RX 550, RX 570, RX 580, GTX 1660, GTX 1660 Super, RTX 2060 and RTX 2060 Super in this if you want. Email [email protected] for pricing and we can invoice for them separately. I will add the GPUs to the product listing as well when I've set them up.

Core i7-10700F Gaming CP with NO GPU: $899

  • Intel Core i7 10700F 8 core/16 thread processor
  • Gigabyte B460M Gaming HD motherboard - MSI B460 MAG Mortar and Z490 upgrades available
  • 16GB 2666MHz RAM (models may vary) - upgrades available on site with Z490 motherboard
  • 240GB 2.5" SSD (WD Green) - upgrades available on site if needed but kept low for those bringing own storage
  • Gigabyte P650B 650W 80+ Bronze power supply - 750W 80+ Gold upgrade available and strongly recommended for RTX 3080
  • MSI MAG Forge 100R ATX Case(msi.com) - 2 RGB front fans, 1 exhaust, mesh front, supports 330mm GPUs

Important Notes about these PCs:

1) They do not feature a graphics card and will not output a display to a monitor without one. You must install your own graphics card for the PC to work as intended.
2) The PC will be fully assembled then stress tested with a graphics card installed, which will be removed prior to shipping.
3) The assembled system warranty for the system applies only to the components provided by us. Any additional components are installed at the end user's own risk. In the event of a warranty claim, any end-user modifications that are found to be the cause of, or contributing to, the issue being claimed, may have an impact on the claim.
4) Our assembled system does not apply to assembled systems; individual components' manufacturer's warranties apply. Email [email protected] for warranty claim assistance.

I have been conservative about shipping times for the past few months but now is a great time to buy as September is traditionally quieter, even more so right now with RTX 3000 launch imminent, so handling times are right down. Unassembled systems will definitely ship quicker, as everything is in; to order this system unassembled, enter "SHIP UNASSEMBLED" in the Notes field during Checkout. We cannot remove any parts to reduce the price any further, from either assembled or unassembled systems

Expires midnight 17 September.

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  • +23 votes

    PCPP jobbie using lowest pricing I could find:
    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU Intel Core i7-10700F 2.9 GHz 8-Core Processor $479.00 @ Centre Com
    Motherboard Gigabyte B460M GAMING HD Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $139.00 @ Centre Com
    Memory Patriot Signature Premium 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 CL19 Memory $82.99 @ Amazon Australia
    Storage Kingston A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $35.00 @ Umart
    Case MSI MAG FORGE 100R ATX Mid Tower Case $89.00 @ PCCaseGear
    Power Supply Gigabyte P-B 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $99.00 @ BudgetPC
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total $923.99
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-14 15:47 AEST+1000
    • I appreciate this.

    • i7-10700F is currently $449.10 on eBay, so let's say keep all the other component the same, cost would be $894

      Now if you upgrade the PSU to 750W, its cost would be $99+$79 = $178 and from some no name brand

      Power Supply: Bundled 550W and 750W: Allied, TechFast-approved
      80+ Bronze and Gold: Antec, Thermaltake, Gigabyte, Deepcool, Raidmax other TechFast-approved

      whereas a Corsair RM750X was $188.10 recently

      So yeah don't buy if you're getting for 3080

      • The bundled PSU is a Gigabyte P650B, not some no name brand.

        • That's for 650W, when you upgrade to 750W, it's a lottery

          Also the Gigabyte here is also of poor quality and is recommended for cheap mid low end system

          https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu...

          I don't think a 3070 build should be considered as cheap mid end system, but you may think differently

          • @ln28909: def dont get this for a 3080 build lol

            • @Freestyle: Ikr, but there would be plenty of people buying this for 3080 especially if they don't know much about computer, even 3070 is a stretch

              So I thought I should put it out there so they know

              • @ln28909: yeah I agree with you, if you got the spare $800 for a 3070 you might as well do a proper build with a better mobo, PS and an unlocked CPU

                Also i'm guessing this has the stock cooler for the CPU, those do the job but in high-end games (for which you are buying such a powerful GPU for anyway) you'll get temperatures above 85 and will be very noisy lol, even at idle it used to piss me off

          • @ln28909: The 750w upgrade is the gigabyte g750h 80+ gold PSU, which is tier A in the PSU hierarchy which you linked above. I'm sure it's good enough for the 3080.

          • @ln28909: The tier llist's "Recommended for ____" is over the top. The P650B is fine.

    • honestly dont know how these guys stay in business and able to turn a profit.
      im sure they bulk buy and source parts for cheaper than normal people can get access to, but how much NET profit are they really making? $100-$200?
      think of all the times spent troubleshooting when a customer can't get something to work, or if there's a damaged part because of careless postage handling and things get returned and they have to spend time on that.
      and yet you still have people that want them to have a call centre for tech support lmfao.

      • Yeah the margins are so tight and everyone on here busts their balls hard when some component can be found elsewhere a few bucks cheaper. These guys are trying to make a living.

  • I simply never thought I'd see the day of Techfast offering a PC without a GPU - awesome work Luke!

  • Good price!

    I built my own part by parts from Oz bargain deals — lot cheaper than PcPartPicker

    • +9 votes

      Definitely some lower component pricing to be found but there were a good few weeks where PCPP was the basis of all comparison on prebuilt PC deals, so happy enough to roll with it. Gives us a good idea if we're in the ballpark price wise too.

      • Yep, I think PCPP is a good idea for ballpark but if you're determined you'll always be able to beat these by bargain-hunting piece by piece - lot more effort involved though :)

        • While I myself would go with the deal hunting and building the PC myself, I believe this will cater to the market who are less tech-friendly and want an all in one service with it being assembly and have some sort of warranty which itself has value.

          So while on face value it is cheaper but I do appreciate the fact that Luke try to use PCPP as somewhat of a benchmark in terms of its pricing. Would definitely recommend to my friends (who I don't care enough to help build their spec and PC) ;)

        • If you just browse through Amazon and eBay, should generally be able to beat Pcpp by 10% without too much effort

  • might be a stupid question, i've been reading that there are different Pins for some of the newer GPUs. Does these sort of builds come with the right power cables with the right combination of pins for GPUs?

  • Great price. Solid name brand parts too so that is fantastic. Thanks for the good deal.

  • Personally I'd go with the 3700x system.

    • +1 vote

      Depends on what you wanna do. If gaming the Intel system may be better.

      • Probably not. A 3700X with a B450 and 3200Hz RAM is probably faster in games than a 10700F on B460 with 2666MHz RAM. I don't think gigabyte B460's let you override power limits either so the 10700F will be triple crippled by being stuck to the fairly low default power limits. 65W PL1 on this very inefficient CPU, ouch.

        Either way you'll get way more flexibility with AMD.

        Edit: also the stock cooler on the 10700 is absolute garbage too, will quadruple cripple the processor

        • 10700F will be triple crippled by being stuck to the fairly low default power limits. 65W PL1 on this very inefficient CPU

          That's only true if you play games that can utilize the entire 16 threads non stop, something that I've never heard of. It's things like encoding or cinebench type workloads where the 65W power limit cripples it.

        • For game performance, the 10700f is significantly faster than the 3700x.

          In fact it's faster than the 3900x, though not enough to make much a real difference.

          See actual benchmarks:

          https://youtu.be/kk9JMtH3cm4?t=644

          • @ItsMeAgro: Come on guys, at least click the link before downvoting helpful info.

            Happy to be proven wrong if anyone can post evidence that Hardware Unboxed's gaming benchmarks I linked above are somehow wrong on this one.

            • @ItsMeAgro: didn't neg you but but the link you provided shows intel 5-10% ahead, i'm not sure that qualifies as 'significantly faster', back in the day AMD was literally like 100% slower than intel, now that really was significantly faster

              and i'm to lazy to investigate what memory setup was used in the video as you need a Z series motherboard just to overclock memory with intel as the first guy was saying #inteltax

            • @ItsMeAgro: Thats's the K version of Intel, which is more expensive than the non K here. Mind you that every time people do gaming benchmark that shows Intel systems being faster, 100% of the time it's going to be in a K version CPU and in a Z motherboard. Compare that to Ryzen 3700x, that you can overclock both the CPU and RAM in a regular B450 motherboard. With Intel, you need the Z490 AND a K CPU to get XMC and core clock boost.

              This system is comparable in speed to a 3700x, while being more expensive.

      • Intel much better for temperatures compare to AMD, a ex-AMD fan boy here

    • Yes my understanding is the Intel is much better for gaming.

      I currently have an i5 8400 which is somewhat comparable to a 3700x for gaming purposes except for those games that are CPU heavy.

    • Buying a non K Intel in a non Z motherboard is just like throwing money when comparable AMD systems are cheaper AND can be overclocked.

  • Can be a risky buy as you cant test the computer upon arrival until you get a GPU. And if the GPU dies then you’re on your own as the CPU doesn’t have integrated graphics.

    • How is this different to getting a fully assembled pc from elsewhere or diy? They say the pc is stress tested with gpu installed for verifying.

      Even if you are to get a assembled pc with gpu, if you gpu dies aren’t you left with no graphics? 🤷‍♂️.

      • If you get a PC and the GPU dies, you can plug your display directly into the motherboard and still be able to utilise the computer. This is good for diagnostics, but with these CPU's wihout integrated graphics, you are left with nothing.

        Normal pc's with gpu, if the gpu dies you'll still get a display. It could be a motherboard issue not the GPU, but at least you'd have the chance to look it over.

      • They say the pc is stress tested with gpu installed for verifying

        They say a lot of things. It doesn’t mean it will happen.

    • I don't think risky is the right word. You're buying this with full knowledge there's no GPU as well as already being tested in store. If you bought the whole thing pre built, you'd be without the lot if there was a problem anyway.

  • Any chance for a case upgrade to the Asus TUF GT501?

  • Hey luke, I'm a total hardware noob and have decided that I want a 3080. Will this be enough for it?

    • +5 votes

      With the 750W Gold PSU, and as much storage as you want to add in, it's a good start. To get the absolute most out of it, a Z490 motherboard allows for faster RAM and will have superior BIOS functionality and cooling features on the motherboard, to pair with this high-end a GPU. It is not required, but it would be recommended. As others have said above, adding a 240mm liquid cooler will keep the CPU far cooler than the stock Intel fan too. The AMD build with the 3700X has a better stock cooler and faster bundled RAM, and probably like for like better motherboard too, so if I was choosing between the two, I'd pick the 3700X system.

  • This is great, anyway to do the ram at [email protected] to really make that that B460M sweat?
    Understanding that this is stock clear-out if not.

    • +2 votes

      It is intended to move 2666 RAM partly - we've got a lot of 2666 and 3200 MHz stock so not really looking to add more SKUs at this time.

  • Slap a 30xx in there and your good to go bros!

  • Decent deal IMO. For those wanting this for RTX 3000 cards, just bear in mind that intel does not support PCIE Gen 4, only AMD does. This means you won't be able to completely utilise your GPU until intel release it, which means you have to buy a new CPU and motherboard again.

    • Isn't the general consensus that the bandwidth of 3.0 will be more than enough for any of the Ampere cards? Not arguing 4.0 has benefits for nvme drives etc.

  • Sorry I don't have much knowledge so I have a stupid question.

    The only thing extra I should buy us an external gpu? Everything else is included? Thanks

    • The GPU would be purchased and installed separately, rather than being strictly 'external' - only a terminology difference, but yeah. After installation, you would need to install and update the graphics drivers yourself, from NVIDIA, so an active internet connection would be required. The system has Windows 10 Home edition preinstalled - to activated it you can purchase it from us, or obtain one elsewhere. The system retains the vast majority of functionality without activation, but ultimately MS do want you to buy their operating system at some point.

  • how do you manage without an operating system?

    • +2 votes

      The Operating System is preinstalled, but not activated from us unless you purchase the activation code. The system retains the vast majority of functionality without activation, but ultimately MS do want you to buy their operating system at some point.

    • Only thing that non-activated Windows 10 does is lock you from the Personalization settings screen and put an annoying watermark in the bottom right corner, other than these two small things there are no problems with OS operations and it never expires.

  • I know you said it's a good time to be buying in regards to shipping times, but after having dealt with CGB Solutions for about two months before sending my computer back for a refund I just have to ask, what kinda of timeline are we looking at? (probably more looking at the 3700x build than this however)

    • Systems will likely ship well inside the estimated 14 business days we quote in regular times. Can't give more specific details than that, but the regular 14 business day estimate is due to stock fluctuations and order volume, mostly, both of which are in advantageous positions.

  • can you do a i9-10900k build?

  • Sorry for being a noob but what is better overall for a gaming/general use home desktop computer. whats the difference between the intel or AMD cpus? should i go for the intel i7 or the AMD ryz 3700?

    thanks

    • Between the two the difference is very negligible. For gaming theyre mostly the same but intel edges slightly in some games (mainly esports titles), but youre already getting 10000 fps in those anyway. Personally i prefer amd because their ethics are currently better and for the rendering i do its the beter option.
      This is specifically for the 10700 vs 3700, when looking at other models theres much clearer performance differences (hedt mainly).

  • I thought Intel CPU are now Apu capable, ahhh 😤

    • +1 vote

      The F suffix denotes no integrated graphics - Intel have both options on more lines than AMD do actually. But F chips are cheaper than non F for this reason.

      • Why would f chips be cheaper then non f chips.

        So the question is, in that deal listed above, what was the motivating factor putting in a f series chip compared to a kf series, k series. Price maybe can you change that package?

        • +1 vote

          Because you're not paying for the integrated graphics with an F. It lowers the cost of the chip overall for people who are never going to use the integrated graphics, by installing a discrete GPU. K is a different story, being unlocked, and KF is unlocked + no graphics. We do offer the KF variant on the detail if people are interested.

  • @luketechfast

    Just out of curiosity, how do you turn a profit less alone stay in business if you hardly put any mark ups on the parts you get and for the labour you do for putting all these parts together?

    Methinks you are well underpricing yourself which is quite a disservice for you or am I missing something? Please enlighten.

    • +2 votes

      Lots of factors combined. Here's one question though - do we put hardly any markup on, or are others charging a lot of markup?

      This being OzBargain though, not OzAdvertise, we've got to be mindful that more profit makes it less of a deal. Our business model copes with that OK.

    • Lots of business go high mark up low turnover and can shoot themselves in the foot
      Some smarter people go small mark up larger turn over…

      Nearly everyone is lookin for a bargain.. category 2 works here :)

    • am I missing something?

      Most of their components come from China. It’s cheap so quality is questionable, especially their no name semi-plastic cases and unrated Allied PSUs. Other low end components can be seen with their RAM and SSDs. Lastly their builds do not come with an activated Windows 10 like you would expect from a retailer.

      One of their marketing tricks they use is the uncertainty of branded components. For example, the motherboard can be msi, gigabyte etc., but it will almost always be the cheaper Biostar (Made in China). Of course you can upgrade, when available, by switching to different brands, but you will be losing the cost saving doing it that way.

      They make a small margin on each build, but they make up for that by selling many units on the attraction it’s cheap. Downside is obviously quality and long waiting times beyond what is expected. This is evident through the many complaints on OzB.

      I’m not saying you shouldn’t buy Techfast, but since you asked you might as well be aware of what’s going on. I hope this helps you.

      P.S. Read their return policy before buying should there be a problem. Interesting read.

      • Second swipe you've had at them on this thread alone.

        Sounds like you've got a bit of a vendetta rather than an educated opinion.

        Have you bought something from them before or something?

        • Sounds like you've got a bit of a vendetta rather than an educated opinion.

          Just doing my civic duty and responding to a valid question. I will let the voting system speak for itself. If people found it informative then upvote.

          I personally think Techfast is OK. Some of their policies is bad though, and the front man Luke is a great salesman. Techfast Express is a great marketing trick.

  • I am looking for a PC that is suitable for Video editing (mainly in full HD quality), would this one work?

  • hi, when will this sales end