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Best price I have seen so far. Regularly gets down to $750ish but not this cheap.
People who don’t own electronics lock often have negative thoughts/comments. Once you own one, you would never go back! These locks have low battery warning and often have many different ways to open if one failed. Last resort would be the mechanical key way. The locks are designed so it can always open from the inside, no power is required.
Besides, if someone wants to break into a house, they are going to break in whether there's an electronic lock or normal lock. If their mind is set on getting in, they will find a way to force themselves in.
So true, I've had a Samsung on the house I built for about six years. The only negative is when it dies you need to replace pretty much like for like or replace the whole door.
That said I've been in rentals for the last few years and I finally got a place with a Samsung lock again, it just makes life easy. I like the extra features you can program in of the top models.
People who watch lockpickinglawyer know how magnets work, and how solenoids work, and they're understandably skeptical about this sort of technology. What holds the lock closed? What mechanism opens it? What triggers that mechanism?
People who watch lockpickinglawyer know that locks are there to just keep honest people honest. I don't have any issues using this smart lock over any other "conventional" lock. I know that lockpickinglawyer can unlock them both within 2-3 seconds :)
@GregFiona: So you'd pay $700 for a lock even if you thought it provided the same security as a $55 double cylinder deadbolt?
I mean, if it is running a solenoid, then it's less secure than a cylinder lock. You have to pick a cylinder, which requires at least a small amount of skill, but any muppet can slide a magnet around until something clicks.
Not saying this lock is like that, but "meh, they can all be hacked anyway" seems a strange argument for a 12x price increase.
@GrueHunter: It looks like you have missed the point here. Let me guess, you own a car that operates the doors with a key only(no remote) and your windows and windshield wipers are not electric, correct?
Also, you do not use wifi at home because the ethernet only modem/routers are cheaper and more secure, right?
Just to make it clear, I would pay the 12x extra $$ to have the extra features that a simple key lock doesn’t offer. My home’s security is based on a more professional, sophisticated and expensive equipment.
@GrueHunter: $55 double cylinder lock? damn im doing it wrong with $2 zipties
@GrueHunter: Please don't tell me you have a wireless garage door remote…..
@GrueHunter: Look it up before comment please, this lock is way harder to open than using a magnet.
What's the reason to get this over $300ish locks?
which one are you referring to?
None in particular, but https://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/building-hardware/door...
shows many cheaper locks so I'm wondering if it's worth spending this much.
Yale lock interface is sux compare to Samsung. They all have their own set of features. This one is a high end lock with full of features.
From a quick look, apart from the obvious brand premium you pay for the Samsung lock, the Yale does not offer the 5 different authentication methods Samsung has
@GregFiona: but I suspect most people will settle on 1 authentication method
@fredblogs: Not really. There are many different scenarios.
For example,let's say I own the house and I prefer to unlock the door with the NFC tag on my car keys.
My wife, she uses the phone app to get in.
For our high school kids, we have set up different pin codes of fingerprints so when they come home we receive an alert from the lock on our phone letting us know who got home.
Once every 3 months we assign a guest code(single use/day entry) and give it to the cleaner who has to access the house while we are away.
Also, the one you posted is a smart deadbolt, not exactly the same thing as the Samsung
@GregFiona: Good point. When you need to kick out a specific child those pins come in useful.
@GregFiona: Can this be retrofitted to replace existing mortise lock?
Or will the door have to be patched up and recut to install this lock?
@GregFiona: Is the NFC tag something you bought separately, like this? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NFC-KEY-FOB-TAG-CARD-FOR-SAMSUNG...
@GregFiona: The Yale Assure is great. There are 4 different wireless modules for it (Z-wave, Zigbee, HomeKit and August), which makes it very versatile. The minimal design of the outside panel also looks the best I think.
@trippy: At that price, I would get the Samsung "rim" lock for around $200.
Maybe the Aqara N200? Pretty much the same specs as far as I can tell. Only difference I can see is that NFC is locked to Xiaomi phones and devices. And Xiaomi not Samsung, so the CCP can open your door on a whim. :)
earlier this year Xiaomi cams woul show random homes around the world.
maybe when you go home you unlock a door in norway!
@furyou: Thus my comment about the CCP opening your doors on a whim.
@ToastySteve: That is some strong tinfoil you've got there!
@supersimp: Haha, I was about 80% facetious and a healthy 20% paranoia.
In regards the power comments, we've had one for 7-8 years now, and it'll sound a low battery warning waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy in advance… I'm talking like 3+ months, so it's actually quite difficult NOT to be on top of it. Unless you're hard of hearing I guess.
Interesting, I haven't even heard it. I just replace annually around Christmas/New Year's when extra batteries are floating around for the toys.
Same here. Always replace batteries annually for last 8 years. No problems at all.
Which authentication methods do you use the most?
Thanks, I am thinking of getting one but not sure if it will our door. We live in an apartment, with metal door frame.
Note this is not a fire rated lock - you won't be allowed to install it on the main entrance door for your apartment unit (which is a fire rated door)
Thank you :)
Wonder how it will handle the weather.
That's where some of these types of locks don't do very well.
and the aussie sun, kills everything
Just wonder the same, how is it for external door ?
Thanks OP! We are doing renovations at the moment and my wife has been talking about this lock for weeks. Time to pull the trigger.
This wouldn't work on a double door unless we install 2 of these right ?
I always wonder do these type of smart locks only designed to install on new doors?
It doesn't look like they can be swapped with existing tradition mortise lock, as the pocket and cut outs are different.
Probably true for all mortise locks, once installed they are part of the door forever.
Is there any way to unlock it by just tapping your phone on it, without opening some app, as you would to use Google Pay?
you could also use finger print, pass code, nfc tag or key
You can, Android only.
Check this demo video from Facebook from random google
What happens when it runs out of battery?
you can use a single 9v battery to prob on the sensor outside and open it. or use the physical key
You can charge it with a 9v battery. It beeps for 3 months prior to running out of batteries.
Who can install this? How could I know if this is suitable?
You can organize with bunnings to install it.
Once they start selling smart security door lock too then i will be buyinggg
Can this be installed on an existing door? If so how? Is there a DIY guide/instruction I can follow? Thanks in advance.
Disappointed that I couldn't find a video of the lock picking lawyer destroying this lock. Which is probably a good thing if you have one of these. First try a strong magnet on it ……
The weakest part of this lock is that it still has a key. Keys are the weakest security of a home. Most people don't even know what brand front door lock they have, or how secure it is.
If someone is going to break into your house, they will. A key lock is not going to stop them hey.
Haha yes. Brick or stone throw through your window then just walk in.
If only it could be a video doorbell as well…
This. It's what I'm waiting for. It does have a door bell, but not the best implementation imo.
Has anyone installed a Samsung digital lock on a door with thickness of around 32mm? The specs say 35mm+.
Where do you see that? I see:
Door width: 40-60mm
Lock stile: 115mm
Just wondering if you need strata approval to install this?
Can John Conner hack it with his Atari?
Can I install this one on my wooden entry house door?
Anybody know whether these can be made to work with sliding doors the require a latch mechanism?
Anyone knows what difference between SHP-DP609 and SHP-DR708AU/VK?