Best pathway for any course?

Hi,

Just wanting to know if anyone knows the best way to get into Uni for any course without much work. I know it sounds silly but I would like to know some options. OzB may not be right place to ask than the school course counselor but I thought I'd give it a go.

I'm a Year 11 student doing ATAR pathway in Economics, Maths Apps, English, Religion, Biology. Last year myself and my course counselor decided it was best for me to do Computer Science course instead of Bio but after the selections were made, the school canceled the course as not many people chose it because it was a newly introduced course so no one knew about it, so unlucky me. Flunked the first sem this year due to not trying and at the same time, it was pretty hard. Failed Math and Eco though I know I could've passed if I put a bit more effort.

I can't confirm exactly what I want to be at the moment, but something in the business and tech industry interests me. I was planning on going for Computer Science course after school at Uni but I don't enjoy coding so thought its a no. Right now, probably gonna study Bachelor of Business after school though I still haven't confirmed or something with marketing. I have hopes of being CEO of a company (Apple, Tesla etc.) though not sure, or even founder of startup or something.

Just wanted to get some guidance as so many people are dropping ATAR, so I want to know what the best option here would be - General pathway? Flexitrack? Continue ATAR? Any help on career choice and course pathways are much, much appreciated.

The realization that I'm getting older and all that dreads me. Quite stressful, especially with the worry about getting poor ATAR score. Getting a job, home, family, all that. Hopefully I can get through.

Thanks!

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  • +9 votes

    This is one of those posts that I am surprised doesn't have a yellow L under the username.

    • -1 vote

      If only OzB have an algorithm for detect a pattern for past posts.

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        You would be out of a job if so

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          That's where the world seems to be heading, valuing algorithms over humans, not just taking over repetitive "jobs", but trying to take over the jobs that requires thinking by humans.

          Algorithms should be seen as an assistant, rather than a full replacement of people (which some business tends to think this way).

          However, if people let their thinking skills atrophy (e.g. seen through some anecdotal evidence via OzB OPs), it "justifies" business wanting to have algorithms take over.

          Sorry, digressed :)

  • +5 votes

    Only in Year 11 and already building your home? Impressive.

    In seriousness, an ATAR helps in getting admittance to a university course, but it's not the be all or end all. You can do a Diploma and depending on what Diploma and Bachelor courses you choose, you can go straight into the second year of uni after competing the Diploma.

    Might want to edit your post to say you're using your parent's account. Or posting on behalf of your child.

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      Thanks for that. I knew I'd be caught. I let my son post after I told him about OzB.

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      DisabledUser373767

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        Guess joelthomas realised it wasn't a good idea to share his OzBargain account with his son

  • +5 votes

    knows the best way to get into Uni for any course without much work

    And then

    I have hopes of being CEO of a company (Apple, Tesla etc.)

  • +2 votes

    I have hopes of being CEO of a company (Apple, Tesla etc.)

    piss take thread of the year?
    your son at the keyboard again?

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      dam all this hate. ruined dreams lol 😢😢
      won't dream big then. fine, not apple or tesla, my dad's business

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        my dad's business

        No point doing to Uni, if you are going to be the heir.

        Sounds like you need/want a badge certificate hung on a wall. Could just go buy one. :)

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    Guessing this is a troll post, but either work harder or spend a lot longer getting that degree. Or go to the university of nowhere, get a crap job and spend a decade working your way up (also known as the "freefall101 special").

    Basically you're screwed unless you're super charismatic.

  • +9 votes

    get into Uni for any course without much work

    Arts

    Failed Math and Eco though I know I could've passed if I put a bit more effort.

    Arts

    I have hopes of being CEO of a company (Apple, Tesla etc.) though not sure, or even founder of startup or something.

    Many dropped out of Uni, so maybe you have a chance, but not Arts.

    The realization that I'm getting older and all that dreads me.

    Melodramatic —> Arts.

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    alarm bells should be ringing for the parents tbh…

  • +5 votes

    I’ve got kids older and younger.
    I think you probably need to think about stuff with a bit of maturity.
    I remember myself in yr11 some days I was serious and thinking about the future others I was chatting up the opposite sex in the middle of class.

    My theory on life is you need to work hard sometime.
    If you do it in high school you can get an amazing ATAR, get scholarships and fast tracked to success at uni and you start uni and your career with a leg up, making it pretty easy to get a well paying job (maybe not CEO of Apple to begin with).

    Or you can take it easy at school, find yourself in a less desirable uni course with everyone else mediocre or worse. If you work hard at uni, you can score well, and probably get a good job somewhere with a grad program, and likely be on the way to a pretty good career.

    OR you can take it easy at uni too, or even drop out, and get a job. If you start working hard then, early in your career, you can get rapid advancement. You will have to work for some years before you catch the people who got the grad program roles, as they were already earmarked for junior management roles etc. but after 10years of working hard you can probably catch most of them, and have a pretty well paying job and career.

    Or you can take it easy early in your career, then knuckle down when you have a family and realise you need to step up your income to give them the life you want. It is hard then, cause you are already exhausted and trying to do extra work is tough. You have a lot of demands on your time, and your kids are growing and your expenses are high. You can still pull off a reasonable job, but the CEO job is probably out of reach, and its a tough slog.

    Or you can take it easy all the way through, and find yourself with limited assets, poor super and a so-so job as you get closer to retirement. It’s pretty tiring working well into your 60s, but the pension doesn’t start till you are 67, and you have bills to pay, and even after 67 you’re not sure how you will make ends meet. Probably have to move into somewhere cheaper, even though it puts you further away than you want, and you don’t have the money to help out kids with house deposits or take holidays overseas (King ScoMo the Third has promised borders will be open soon).

    I’ve know all types, and those working hard early do better, but you’ve got a way to go before it gets grim. I will say the absolute magnitude of work feels like it increases the further along you go. And if you have some bad luck like ill health or a disabled kid or any of a million other setbacks, it is much better to be starting those challenges at the front of the pack than on the back foot.

    With your specific question about getting to uni, the easiest way with the least effort is to get an ATAR and turn up. You’ll enjoy it more with kids your age, and you’ll have those years to do a bit of growing up so you hit the ground running in a job.

    My only other suggestion is not to go too far the other way. I’ve known a bunch of uber successful people who turn 45, discover they have locked themselves into massive mortgages, car payments, private school fees etc. etc. who would love to drop the grind and go work for WorldVision or open a cafe - but they have built a life and the expectations of others that handcuff them to their high income lifestyle.

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      Thanks! That was motivational. I will continue with ATAR. Once again much thanks!

  • +1 vote

    http://open.edu.au

    Never got a ATAR. Did get degree.

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    You could specialise in religion, some preachers make big bucks.

  • +2 votes

    Just wanted to get some guidance as so many people are dropping ATAR, so I want to know what the best option here would be - General pathway? Flexitrack? Continue ATAR? Any help on career choice and course pathways are much, much appreciated.

    Not sure how it works in perth but if your school course counsellor or psychologist might have access to the Self-Directed Search. It's a questionnaire about possible career choices. Your counsellor can guide you in choosing the right subjects/pathways required to get there. Here's a sample report and it's quite detailed with 1200 of the most common jobs in Australia.

    Otherwise, the governments career quiz might also be a good starting point.

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    You need to learn to work much harder. School is very easy compared to uni. If you go into uni with the attitude you've got now you'll never finish it. You can only repeat subjects once or twice and then you're not allowed to take them again. So if they are requirements for the degree you are screwed. If you want to go to uni and aspire to do anything at all meaningful with your life you need a complete attitude transplant.

  • +2 votes

    Why aren't you putting in the time OP? Are you working a lot of hours at a part time job?

    Effort in equals effort out. I really noticed the difference going back to uni mature age. I put more time into my studies and achieved marks I did t think I was capable of first time round. The only difference being the amount of time put in.

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    if anyone knows the best way to get into Uni for any course
    I have hopes of being CEO of a company (Apple, Tesla etc.) though not sure, or even founder of startup or something.

    Either you're an entrepreneur or a wantrepreneur. It's hard to start your business if you're too busy dreaming about it.

    without much work

    Don't become a CEO. You'd be in for a rude awakening.

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    Not to be rude, OP, but if you had the cognitive capacities to be able to be successful in the areas in which you wish to succeed "without much work", then you wouldn't be failing anything at high school, regardless of effort, and would likely not be asking a question which shows strong shades of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

    Learn about SMART goals. They can be dry as all hell, but if you can make your aspirations fit into this framework, then you're off to a good start.