Should Bunnings Stores Be Shut during Lockdown?

There seem to be a lot of frustration in NSW as daily cases remain high after weeks in lockdown.

Would a shut down of Bunnings stores help? Or are we just looking for someone to blame/punish?
If Senator Lambie can offer her wisdom, I'd rather those from the OZB community.

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  • 944
    Yes, but open for tradies and C&C only.
  • 161
    No, keep them open to general public.

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Comments

  • +80 votes

    just because it is open doesn't mean you need to go,

    i'd love to go to bunnings to pick up a few things for DYI, but my common sense says stay at home.

    onus is on the individual to do the right thing

    • +118 votes

      The problem is common sense is not apparent. If they are open, people will go.

      • +8 votes

        If they are open, people will go.

        Looks like you are correct…

        • +1 vote

          cool website thanks - created by one smart independent developer

      • +5 votes

        The problem with common sense is that if it were indeed common, there would be a lot more of it about!

    • +2 votes

      There are common people, and not so common people.

      • +2 votes

        And common people are not so common

    • -1 vote

      I did a shopping and spend another $40 for delivery. Couldn't fit it in the car anyway. No big fuss.

    • +9 votes

      Onus on the individual isn’t working.

    • +21 votes

      "onus is on the individual to do the right thing"

      If this was the case 99% of our laws wouldnt exist.

      Sad reality is the avg person is an absolute moron.

      Exhibit A: NSW case numbers.

      • -38 votes

        yep…some are so thick they think lockdowns work. case in point, the hellhole of victoria

        • +12 votes

          How cute. You remind me of me when I first started trolling on the internets.

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          Urgh, let me explain it simples for you @ozboygsl … the virus spreads by moving from person to person, if people don’t move then the virus can’t spread and will then run its course with its host person, and a (real) lockdown will limit the number of people moving therefore it will stop the spread. Do you understand?

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            @msjacqui: Right, because that doesn't end in an infinite cycle like what's happening right now, particularly in Melbourne!
            Does it? 🤦🤷
            Are you unable to grasp the concept that there is more to life than just life in it's biological form… We've evolved beyond that stage long ago!

            People's mental health and livelihoods are being crushed because of this.
            Yet no one seems to consider that.
            Not to mention the DEBT we will be paying for decades to come.

            I'm astonished at how many are not only accepting of how the govt, both state and federal (before you Dan lovers start foaming at the mouth) but fully support their handling of the situation and their plan (lack thereof) moving forward 😏

            • +2 votes

              @hutchjnr:

              People's mental health and livelihoods are being crushed because of this.
              Yet no one seems to consider that.

              Does having Covid and being sick and/or in hospital not affect one's livelihood and mental health?

              Not to mention the DEBT we will be paying for decades to come.

              Can you work while having respiratory issues?

              • -2 votes

                @Ughhh: So based on your logic, never do anything ever, because there's a statistical possibility of catching it, let alone dying from it!
                Are you aware that for people under 50, it has taken all of 1 day, yes 1 day off the life expectancy of an average person and less than 1% (roughly 0.5%) chance of dying if you happen to contract it! 😳😳🤷

                But yeah, let's shut everything down and become hermits, ignoring the countless other issues that will stem from this in the coming years! 🤦🤦🤦

                • -1 vote

                  @hutchjnr: Lol that's not what I said, but you tried. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Also, calm down. Lolol

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                  @hutchjnr: You do realise that 0.5% is 1 in 200!?
                  If we let it run rampant eventually you will get it within a few years… like what happens with seasonal colds that go around.
                  I'd hate to see every one in 200 people die over the next couple of years - that's awful. I know more than 200 people so how many people I know will die?
                  … all the while people are avoiding getting AstraZeneca because of a 1 in 500,000 chance of a blot clot death!!??

                  • +1 vote

                    @MrFrugalSpend: If we all had the option of Pfizer right now I think we would all be lining up to take it.. it's SAD the federal government failed us.. they had 3 chances to order it last year and said no ever time..

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          Lockdowns do work to slow down the spread.

          At the end of the day though, this thing is here to stay, and I'm betting we get to a point (after majority are vaccinated) that this will be treated like a flu, with onus on individuals if they wish to get vaccinated. At that point lockdowns will be no more (unless some new variant appears which is current vaccine resistant)

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        What is even sadder is dispite our own believes we are a that part of the bulk that make up "average people"

    • +8 votes

      Some people will use the reverse logic, "well they're open so it must be ok for me to go"

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      onus is on the individual to do the right thing

      Because this clearly has worked over the last 6 weeks.

    • +4 votes

      WTF are bunnings stores still open for retail trade in NSW? They've always been closed to trade only in VIC since every lockdown.

      You'd wonder why NSW is probably going to be in lockdown until 2022 literally…..

  • +12 votes

    Put more staff on to facilitate quick click and collects. Looking at the reports of the bunnings exposure sites the time spent there is sometimes 1+ hours… thats definitely not just popping in and out, thats full on walking up and down every bloody aisle browsing.

    • +4 votes

      If anything, should definitely close the home renovation/display section.

    • -2 votes

      I think existing staff should be able to cope.

    • +3 votes

      It could be people just have approximate times so they say 1 hr to be safe.

  • +6 votes

    Bunnings could be essential for certain things (e.g. washers) but there's no reason why they can't restrict it to click and clack.

    • +1 vote

      Front and back

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      Probably because some people don't know what they want and need to see and touch

      • +1 vote

        Not really the time for see and touch though.

        If something is broken in your house you should have a good idea what you need (light bulb, door handle, screws, etc.)
        If you need a new washing machine then you either try and get the same one or you have to deal with not being able to see it in person.

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          I agree

          Just saying some people can't help it

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          Some people have bought houses / properties without seeing / touching, over the past 18 months.

  • +86 votes

    There seem to be a lot of frustration in NSW as daily cases remain high after weeks in lockdown

    What lockdown?

    It doesn't makes sense to me (as a Victorian) how there can be 240 new daily cases and 150 were infectious while in the community after a month of lockdown.

    This is the biggest half arsed lockdown ever.

    • +14 votes

      I think that the virus has reached a demographic that it just simply cannot be snuffed out from. And by the looks of the growing case locations it is only going to get worse from here. And to think, if every single person did the correct thing for only 14 days this would have been over. The longer it drags on the less compliant people will become.

      • +4 votes

        Just look at the map of the infections / hotspots and you will know why it will not be possible to tame this one.

        • +6 votes

          Imagine what a snap lockdown would have done when complacent Gladys lauded the gold standard time and time again, when actually most of the contact tracers were on contract terms which had expired from the year before.

      • +5 votes

        By all accounts it’s actually mostly spreading between people who are doing the right thing, staff at essential stores and workplaces and people living together. So it’s definitely not a case of ‘everyone do the right thing for 14 days and it’s over’.

        The main issue was the time waited before lockdown allowed it to spread enough that just sheer probability keeps it circulating.

        It’s a lot easier to get rid of it when it’s in a population of people who can stay home 24x7 and just get everything brought to them, than it is when it’s circulating in the population of people doing essential work. Melbourne found that out last year and Sydney is pretending that’s a ‘new with Delta’ discovery.

        At this stage if everyone does the right thing in Sydney for months it will possibly be over, if we’re lucky.

        • +2 votes

          staff at essential stores and workplaces and people living together

          This. If we wanted to stamp this out now, we'd have to shutdown almost all of the currently essential stores including fast food places, Bunnings, etc.

          The NSW gov strategy now is to hope the outbreak doesn't explode exponentially, but it's looking like it will.

          Also the government and various folks are constantly pointing at Western/South-Western Sydney having low vaccination rates, but that's also because a lot of younger people live in these areas, and they literally didn't have access to the vaccines until very recently.

          • +4 votes

            @44sunsets: "Essential" services should only be the ones you'd die if they were removed, if your fat ass is going to starve to death without a Big Mac it might be time to learn to make a sandwich.

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              @sk3iron: I 100% agree. But the NSW government doesn't, so here we are, and we still haven't reached the peak of the outbreak yet.

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              @sk3iron: Honestly crowding everyone into supermarkets would make it worse, not better. Food is essential, supermarkets being packed and cleared of stock is worse for the most vulnerable.

          • -1 vote

            @44sunsets: If you have a broken toilet, it's pretty damn essential for hardware stores to be open, but not if you need new garden furniture. If you want to regulate whether those sort of places are essential or not you'd need to sit police outside and at the checkouts and watch what people buy.

            Regardless of what you think about fast food places, supermarkets cannot supply enough food for the entire population for any sustained period, they're struggling just to make up the shortfall that usually eat out, and it's the vulnerable that need this food that are missing out because people are emptying shelves. Whether you like it or not, places that sell food are essential, be they fast food or otherwise. These stores being open doesn't appear to contribute to the spread just 'outrage' at the seriousness, they'd be better off with a curfew than more closures, that helps stop the main source of spread which is people visiting others.

    • +1 vote

      ??? you must've already forgotten Victoria was recording 700+ cases a day (and double digit deaths) in early August, also a month after that lockdown started? And that was with the significantly less contagious OG covid mind you

      • +9 votes

        Less contagious.. But less vaccinated and most of the deaths/cases were in aged care
        Also 700 a day.. being 1 day, and no +

        • +4 votes

          +723 30th Jul, +725 5th Aug and well over double the cases vs NSW across a very similar period of time, but more highlighting the fact that you can't compare the 2 lockdowns and seriously think Victoria did a better job. Also it's something like 17% fully vaccinated in NSW, even less in the hotspot western and south-western Sydney LGAs, well and truly doesn't cover delta's extra contagiousness handicap.

          Of course, with hindsight, nowhere near a perfect response from NSW here either, but they have managed to avoid that exponential growth (for now at least). Besides, the only real difference in current restrictions vs that Victoria lockdown is the lack of a curfew, construction going ahead and occasional anomalies under 'critical services' like this Bunnings situation.

          • +4 votes

            @parcus: My apologies, not sure why Google/Johns Hopkins Uni has those days listed as 579 & 434.

            What is the fully vaccinated rate of aged care residents? (Highest risk areas). My guess is much closer to 100% whereas in Vic it was 0 - thus making the numbers so bad. I think they did an exponentially better job, seeing as NSW is closer to the start than the end.

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              @DimS33: I revoke my apology, 700+ was the original number quoted that was later reclassified to a different day.

          • +8 votes

            @parcus: Given the Victoria response last year was absolute shambles, the main difference is that Victoria had no precedent leading up to those 700+ case days. NSW should have learnt a lesson from what happened last year and imposed those same restrictions (or an improved version) that brought Melbourne down from 700+ cases to 0. Instead it looks like Gladys has completely ignored anything that has happened last year (e.g. aged care employees shouldn't work for multiple employers) and slowly implemented sub-par restrictions while calling them the strictest any Australian state has had.

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        Vic lockdown only actually started on the highest level around early August, at the beginning of July it was only level 3 similar to what is happening right now. Night curfew and 5km limit wasn't a thing before August and I could still go to Bunnings before then.

        • +2 votes

          yes and obviously NSW learnt nothing from that disaster, waiting too long to lock down thinking they can manage their way out of it without taking the embarrassing option of conceding they were wrong and you can't contact trace your way out with such a rapidly spreading virus.

    • -4 votes

      Absolutely 💯 correct. Could not have said it better myself.
      The government doesn't care about the people. They now are able to "snap" lockdown anytime without repercussions so why would they not?

      Half assed is an understatement

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      I 100% agree with you.. yes we have had more cases in Victoria Las year.. did we not learn anything form idiots here..

      I don't think we had that many people completely dissergard stay at home orders if you are infectious (correct me if I'm wrong)

      Burrymygigglyteets thought that they have control and can trust their citizens to do the right thing if infected and decided to leisurely Go outside with zero care.. even think a soft lockdown with DELTA would keep them at bay…

      I'm annoyed Vic is in another lockdown this week as we had a weekend hotel booked in Melbourne for the second time. But not pissed off that we acted fast.. just feel sorry for all the businesses in limbo with this frustration.

    • +1 vote

      This is the biggest half arsed lockdown ever.

      But the NSW govt is telling us Victorians that their lockdown is the harshest in the country!

  • +4 votes

    A lot of Bunnings items aren't available for click & collect.. especially bigger stuff

    Also.. they don't take eGift cards online, which is annoying too

    • +1 vote

      No discounts on Bunnings egift cards anyway so hardly a big deal.

      Is a pandemic really the right time to click and collect a new kitchen or bathroom fitout? for 99% of things you can click and collect and if you hire a tradie he can still drive a ute in there and collect the big things.

    • -2 votes

      So get it delivered, it's not rocket science.

      • +2 votes

        Yeah, nah. I recently had to go to Bunnings to get a couple of items for home repair because for some reason they were not available for delivery or click & collect.

        • +2 votes

          If they close to online / tradies only im sure that will change.

  • +2 votes

    If Bunnings is open then people will go that goes for any other shop as well, click and collect works quite well, if you are prepared to be patient and “ wait” for your order it shouldn’t be a problem unless you don’t know how to use a computer.

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      I went during the week long lockdown in SA for a powerboard because mine went bust and couldn't watch TV. Didn't even know they had click and collect until now.

  •  

    Are regular small hardware shops still open too?

    • +8 votes

      In VIC, ALL hardware shops, big or small had the same rules.

      Only trade could 'enter', everyone else had to click/collect.

      • +1 vote

        Having a Bunnings Trade PowerPass also helps

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          Well that then makes you 'trade', so yes you can go in ;)

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      yes

  • +33 votes

    I was at bunnings a few days ago worried about whether my reasoning was 'valid enough' to justify being there, but when i pulled up in the car park the first people i saw was a husband and wife with their new born baby setting up a pram ready for a trip in. Some people just don't get it…

    • +6 votes

      Beyond bizarre when it is known that babies/children are also susceptible to the COVID-19 Delta variant.

    • +2 votes

      Saw the same at Gladesville a week ago, one dad and two primary school aged kids without masks.

      • +2 votes

        At least there is a scenario where 1 parent 2 children makes sense (single parent, no availability for care). The ones I don't understand are where two parents are shopping together, I don't know why they keep risking it

        • +7 votes

          How else do you argue over paint colours or tiles??

          • +2 votes

            @EBC: FaceTime?

    • -21 votes

      Some people just don't get it…

      Some people just don't get that others aren't as paranoid as they are…

      • -10 votes

        Or 'brain' washed by mainstream media BS…

        • -2 votes

          This really jiggles my potatoes when people say things like this. Thinking differently is WRONG. Soon it will be against the law. THANK THE LORD!

          • +2 votes

            @newbo: I completely agree, we should be allowed to think differently, that's why I think that 1 = 2.

            I keep being suppressed by the LAMEstream media though. They won't give a platform to my obviously genius alternative facts.

            I even lost my job as a high school maths teacher. Cancel culture gone mad I tell ya.

    • +7 votes

      Unless its a NSW lockdown, its open for all and it seems QLD is following the NSW lead, Bunnings open to the public.

      • +8 votes

        Unless its a NSW lockdown

        Is going to Bunnings one of the "47 reasons you are allowed to leave home" for in NSW?

      • +4 votes

        Bunnings open to the public.

        In VIC, it is 'click and collect' only during lockdown…

        That way, you can still get what you need, but significantly reduce spreading the virus to others…

        Pretty much all of our cases of community transmission occur when people don't follow the rules, or when the government stuff up (or both)…

        • +4 votes

          Yep it was a great system, queue up in the car park then they put your stuff in the boot for you. The only downside was no sausage delivery. That would have made them millions.

          • +4 votes

            @Mechz: My local pub was doing click and collect parmas. They sold out every time.

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            @Mechz:

            The only downside was no sausage delivery.

            They were working on this prior to COVID.

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              @jv: Had a laugh, didn't CASA get grumpy at this guy back then?

        • +1 vote

          In VIC, it is 'click and collect' only during lockdown…

          never disagreed about VIC…. Your statement was a blanket "It's always shut down during lockdown, except for trade customers…" which is purely not true as NSW/QLD bunnings is OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

          So yes it is one of the 47 reasons to leave home for sure in NSW, but should it be, that is the question :)

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            @JimmyF: its open in NSW, but what they're doing isn't a lockdown.

            Perisher was open last weekend FFS!

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    Do Bunnings in NSW still have a sausage sizzle during lockdown?

    • +10 votes

      I believe so, but the sausages are sprayed with Dettol before cooking…

      • +9 votes

        you mean Delta?

        • +2 votes

          BBQ sauce, Tomato sauce or Delta sauce ?

  • +10 votes

    Depends if you prefer a one week lockdown or three month lockdown.

  • +30 votes

    Next question.

    • +5 votes

      This needs to be the top answer. And an ongoing Bunnings meme.

      • +3 votes

        "Can I just say…"

        "I cannot stress enough…"

        • +1 vote

          "I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too!"

          "When I gain those ruby slippers, my power will be the greatest in Oz."

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          Yup everyday 11am same same same