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Free Upgrade to Windows 11 for Windows 10 Users

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Free Upgrade to Windows 11 for Windows 10 Users
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[Deactivated] on 23/09/2021 - 10:23 blogs.windows.com (7237 clicks)
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Microsoft is suggesting this is only for a limited time – mirroring the upgrade strategy it used to entice Windows 7 users to make the leap to Windows 10.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/windows/windows-11-specifica…
Requirements are listed here: Main things are TPM2.0 and i9 7th gen, 8th Gen Intel or 2nd Gen Ryzen or newer
Clear stated:Still possible to use Windows 11 without meeting the TPM requirements with steps documented here: https://winbuzzer.com/2021/08/09/how-to-install-windows-11-w…
Check compatibility with this program: https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/windows/windows-11#pchealthc…
Windows 11 Installation Assistant, Create Windows 11 Installation Media, Download Windows 11 Disk Image (ISO): https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

Microsoft has announced that it will allow users to install Windows 11 on all modern hardware, including 1st Gen Ryzen and 6th and 7th Gen Core processors. There is a catch, though. You won’t be able to upgrade your PC directly from Windows 10 to 11 if you are running older hardware, not in the official requirement list. Instead, you’ll have to download the Windows 11 ISO from the official Microsoft website and do a clean install.

The upgrade will then roll out over time to in-market devices based on intelligence models that consider hardware eligibility, reliability metrics, age of device and other factors that impact the upgrade experience. We expect all eligible devices to be offered the free upgrade to Windows 11 by mid-2022.

Here are 11 highlights of this release

  1. The new design and sounds are modern, fresh, clean and beautiful, bringing you a sense of calm and ease.
  2. With Start, we’ve put you and your content at the center. Start utilizes the power of the cloud and Microsoft 365 to show you your recent files no matter what device you were viewing them on.
  3. Snap Layouts, Snap Groups and Desktops provide an even more powerful way to multitask and optimize your screen real estate.
  4. Chat from Microsoft Teams integrated into the taskbar provides a faster way to connect to the people you care about.
  5. Widgets, a new personalized feed powered by AI, provides a faster way to access the information you care about, and with Microsoft Edge’s world class performance, speed and productivity features you can get more done on the web.
  6. Windows 11 delivers the best Windows ever for gaming and unlocks the full potential of your system’s hardware with technology like DirectX12 Ultimate, DirectStorage and Auto HDR. With Xbox Game Pass for PC or Ultimate you get access to over 100 high-quality PC games to play on Windows 11 for one low monthly price. (Xbox Game Pass sold separately.)
  7. Windows 11 comes with a new Microsoft Store rebuilt with an all-new design making it easier to search and discover your favorite apps, games, shows, and movies in one trusted location. We look forward to continuing our journey to bring Android apps to Windows 11 and the Microsoft Store through our collaboration with Amazon and Intel; this will start with a preview for Windows Insiders over the coming months.
  8. Windows 11 is the most inclusively designed version of Windows with new accessibility improvements that were built for and by people with disabilities.
  9. Windows 11 unlocks new opportunities for developers and creators. We are opening the Store to allow more developers and independent software vendors (ISVs) to bring their apps to the Store, improving native and web app development with new developer tools, and making it easier for you to refresh the look and feel across all our app designs and experiences.
  10. Windows 11 is optimized for speed, efficiency and improved experiences with touch, digital pen and voice input.
  11. Windows 11 is the operating system for hybrid work, delivering new experiences that work how you work, are secure by design, and easy and familiar for IT to deploy and manage. Businesses can also test Windows 11 in preview today in Azure Virtual Desktop, or at general availability by experiencing Windows 11 in the new Windows 365.
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  • Mortgagetightass on 23/09/2021 - 10:31
    +7

    General rule for any OS upgrade for windows, hold off for 6-9 months, you'll find any non-new release generally has issues, crashing etc. Specifically if you're a gamer

    • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2021 - 10:34
      +5

      Windows 11 was surprisly stable and faster than Windows 10 in the Insider Release Preview, it's mostly UI changes and speed and efficiency upgrades

    • fuzor on 23/09/2021 - 10:48
      +2

      Yeah and in 6 to 9 months time of your holdr, the free upgrade will be a paid upgrade.

      • bgbrendan on 23/09/2021 - 10:58

        win 10 upgrade was free for years lol

      • FireRunner on 23/09/2021 - 11:12
        +2

        They've already confirmed it will be available for at least one year
        Beyond that, it's not improbable that it will remain a free upgrade similar to how Windows 7/8 PCs will activate Windows 10 if installed

      • annarchon on 23/09/2021 - 11:22
        +2

        Are you high? Windows 10 upgrade is still free.

    • MagnamoniousRex on 23/09/2021 - 10:52
      +5

      I upgraded from Vista to 7, from 7 to 8, from 8 to 10 and never had a single issue. My PCs are almost exclusively for gaming.

      This FUD is so stupid.

    • pharkurnell on 23/09/2021 - 11:54

      Agree

    • plmko on 23/09/2021 - 10:36
      -1

      Yes it's Bill Gates' plan all along. The final step is to propagate 5G as a viable NBN solution.

      • Dogstar on 23/09/2021 - 10:54
        +1

        Excellent. After having two Pfizer vaccinations I now function as a 5G tower so this works out nicely for me.

    • ozbargainer88 on 23/09/2021 - 10:54

      Now THIS is some smooth brain shit

  • mateoka on 23/09/2021 - 10:34

    Is there anything actually new or just a redesign?

    • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2021 - 10:39

      Speed and efficiency changes, gamers noticed a 5fps improvement in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq2uPavUUPU

    • walaj on 23/09/2021 - 11:08

      seems to be fairly minor OS changes under the hood and GUI changes, with hardware requirements to kickstart a new wave of PC buying…

      • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2021 - 11:14
        +2

        With all chips shortage and lead time for new laptops being few months to half a year now it's really not the best time for Microsoft to start demanding hardware upgrades.

  • hamwhisperer on 23/09/2021 - 10:35
    +4

    I've heard of some really stupid design decisions with the task bar and what have you, usability, stuff like that. I see no value in this as a non gamer and like previous versions I'll be holding out a while.

    I do not want, to use 3'rd party stuff to 'fix' silly decisions. No clock on monitor 2/3 - weird stuff. Google around and look for people not just lapping up the new thing, there's a few critical opinions of the unnecessary changes.

    • Clear on 23/09/2021 - 10:40

      Windows 10 has come a long way now since it's release and Windows 8 had a lot of improvements UI wise with Windows 8.1. I would expect the same to happen to Windows 11 further down the track.

      • Clear on 23/09/2021 - 14:02

        WIndows 8.1 introduced a start button that was missing from Windows 8. Suck on that negger who thinks I'm wrong lol

    • xrailgun on 23/09/2021 - 18:02
      +1

      +1, it's really mindblowing how badly they (profanity) up the taskbar for multi-monitor users… at the same time they're leaning into multi-monitor improvements as a key marketing feature!!

      the taskbar has been movable between monitors for literally decades, all of a sudden it's not possible anymore? jfc.

  • AndyC1 on 23/09/2021 - 10:35

    I installed it in Virtualbox and it's not as bad as Vista, but the interface is a step backwards and MS are still making major changes to it, so I will not be installing it until it becomes stable.

  • hexapling on 23/09/2021 - 10:36
    +1

    Free = you are the product. No thanks

    • DialIN on 23/09/2021 - 11:20
      +1

      … like ozbargain?

      • hexapling on 23/09/2021 - 12:27

        If Ozbargain secretly collected personal information and stats on your computer and your life without letting you view its source code, then yes.

    • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2021 - 12:17
      +1

      Not sure why you're being down voted, it's simply the truth. MS aren't a charity.

  • rad000 on 23/09/2021 - 10:36

    the win 7 keys still work for win 10 lol

    • Lolitsjoel on 23/09/2021 - 10:47

      My question was going to be does my win7 key that I used to go to 10 work for 11 too

      • rad000 on 23/09/2021 - 11:12

        I'm guessing at the very least you could install win10 with your win7 key and then just run the free upgrade over the top of win10

  • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2021 - 10:36
    +5

    my 7700k is too old lol

    • Dogstar on 23/09/2021 - 10:54
      +1

      It's actually not if you know how to do an update from the ISO. my 7600K is running W11 as we speak.

      • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2021 - 10:59
        +1

        yeah im not keen on losing all my data to upgrade to w11

        • Dogstar on 23/09/2021 - 12:41

          I didn't lose anything. O_o

    • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2021 - 11:39
      +2

      Microsoft has announced that it will allow users to install Windows 11 on all modern hardware, including 1st Gen Ryzen and 6th and 7th Gen Core processors. There is a catch, though. You won’t be able to upgrade your PC directly from Windows 10 to 11 if you are running older hardware, not in the official requirement list. Instead, you’ll have to download the Windows 11 ISO from the official Microsoft website and do a clean install.

  • King Colbra on 23/09/2021 - 10:37
    +3

    I've had it for about a month now, a couple of niggles here and there and only one crash. I mainly use it for gaming and hyper v. My computer is a new 5800X build.
    I also have it running in a unraid VM on a i7-4790 and its been rock solid.

  • nick90 on 23/09/2021 - 10:37
    +4

    Word of Warning. If your running Windows 10 Home and upgrading to Windows 11 Home, Microsoft has made it mandatory to use a Microsoft Account. Pro version are able to get away with not using a Microsoft Account, but not with the home edition.

    • apsilon on 23/09/2021 - 10:38

      Pro version are able to get away with using a Microsoft Account

      I assume you mean without but is that actually confirmed? I'd only seen speculation that would be the case.

      • nick90 on 23/09/2021 - 10:39

        Yep sorry, corrected that now. Was having coffee and typing the same time.

    • FireRunner on 23/09/2021 - 10:58

      This is one of the main deterrents from convincing me to upgrade
      Hopefully this requirement is dropped (or has easy workaround)

      • jv on 23/09/2021 - 11:29

        Hopefully this requirement is dropped

        It won't….

    • StuBalls on 23/09/2021 - 11:33

      in Win 10, when I get to this screen, I disconnect the network connection, click the back button then forward again and it lets me setup a local account. I haven't tested this on Win 11, though as I'm using Win 11 Pro.

      • Clear on 23/09/2021 - 14:04

        That trick still works for Win 11 home. Alternatively disabling the network in the BIOS also works.

        • ATTS on 24/09/2021 - 17:45

          @clear
          is it easy to disable network in BIOS?

  • beebul on 23/09/2021 - 10:37

    No TPM on my laptop so no upgrade. Can you upgrade and install later?

  • Clear on 23/09/2021 - 10:38

    Still possible to use Windows 11 without meeting the TPM requirements with steps documented here. It's also possible to add the registry entries in Windows 10 and do an inplace upgrade to Windows 11.

    • nick90 on 23/09/2021 - 10:40

      You can but Microsoft will not provide any update if you do not meet the TPM requirements.

      • Clear on 23/09/2021 - 10:41

        Yes that's correct. I did it on a TPM 1.2 device just for testing purposes before upgrading my own TPM 2.0 PC.

    • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2021 - 10:41

      Is there a similar fix for 1st Gen Ryzen?

      • Clear on 23/09/2021 - 10:45

        I'm pretty sure it will work fine with 1st Gen Ryzen as well. The registry entries are just telling the Windows setup to bypass the TPM (or fTPM for AMD) and RAM checks.

        I don't have access to any 1st Gen Ryzen so I've not tested it myself however.

        • zander95 on 24/09/2021 - 12:37

          Registry hack was only allowed for the Beta.

          The final release won't be so kind. If you install on 1st gen Ryzen, 7th Gen Intel Core or older, then no updates, both security and feature. It. Also sounds like they might not release updated iso's so even if you reinstall fresh everytime, you might not be able to update the Windows 11 version at all.

          • Clear on 24/09/2021 - 12:38

            @zander95: Yeah I'd be really surprised if it works in the final release.

          • ATTS on 24/09/2021 - 17:51

            @zander95: Since win 10 will be supported until October 14th, 2025 would it be better to stay on windows 10 rather than (win11 with no updates) for those with older CPU's?

  • Limbot on 23/09/2021 - 10:38
    +4

    Already updated my 7th Gen Dell E7270… To Mint Linux 😂

    • marzzbar on 24/09/2021 - 08:29
      +1

      Hell yeah! Was wondering where my linux peeps were at 😁

  • deme on 23/09/2021 - 10:40
    -6

    Serious question. Can you actually pay for an upgrade as a consumer?

    Here is the real upgrade https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/ thank me later.

  • DontNeedThis on 23/09/2021 - 10:43

    So my very capable i7 7900X is too old for this?

    • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2021 - 10:46
      +1

      No it's on the whitelist, it will work as long as you meed other requirements
      https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/min…

      • DontNeedThis on 23/09/2021 - 10:47

        That's i9-7900X mate.

        • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2021 - 10:48
          +1

          Clear says it is compatible but not on the whitelist
          Microsoft has announced that it will allow users to install Windows 11 on all modern hardware, including 1st Gen Ryzen and 6th and 7th Gen Core processors. There is a catch, though. You won’t be able to upgrade your PC directly from Windows 10 to 11 if you are running older hardware, not in the official requirement list. Instead, you’ll have to download the Windows 11 ISO from the official Microsoft website and do a clean install.

      • Clear on 23/09/2021 - 11:50

        I wouldn't use that list to see what's compatible for this reason:

        OEMs may use the following CPUs for new Windows 11 devices.

        It's telling OEMs (HP, Dell, Lenovo etc) what CPUs they require to have their devices running Windows 11 or listed as being Windows 11 compatible. Not a list of what CPUs are supported.

    • Clear on 23/09/2021 - 10:47

      i7-7900X is not on the 'official list' but is shown as compatible with the PC Health app as it has TPM 2.0.

    • joelmuzz on 23/09/2021 - 10:51

      For now.
      But they will probably relax the requirements over time and add more older CPU's to the whitelist.

  • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2021 - 10:43
    +1

    From a gaming perspective, is there any reason to go to Win 11? Will later Directx versions only support Windows 11? Is Directx still even a thing?

    • DontNeedThis on 23/09/2021 - 10:45

      From a gaming perspective, I wouldn't touch a new windows for the first couple of years after its release. I'm expecting a lot of compatibility issues with old or even current games.

      • abctoz on 23/09/2021 - 21:31

        its basically just a patched version of w10 with all the latest updates so there really shouldn't be compatibility issues

    • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2021 - 10:49
      +1

      Gamers noticed a 5fps improvement in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq2uPavUUPU

    • joelmuzz on 23/09/2021 - 10:54
      +1

      They have changed the thread scheduler and modern games on a many core CPU should run a little better.

      Older games made for single/few core era will run worse. Though modern hardware should run those in the hundreds of FPS regardless.

    • bgbrendan on 23/09/2021 - 11:09
      +1

      yeah its likely that later versions of direct x will only support win 11 at some point (thats what they did with 10). It's still common use. but yeah I wouldnt upgrade if you dont have to, 10 was a pain if you jumped onto it early on with support for older games. The cut off for free rollover will probably be extended out like last time meaning no rush

  • dreamstation on 23/09/2021 - 10:44

    I only just upgraded to Windows 10!

    • AMLagonda on 30/09/2021 - 00:34

      Still using 7 :p

  • Hinee on 23/09/2021 - 10:44

    I have been using W11 for a couple of months now. Not sure what all the fuss is about - zero instability and the change in design is nice enough (weird they've gone for white when the whole world is moving to dark mode). I guess I don't mess with Windows anywhere near as much as I used to shrug

    • juki on 23/09/2021 - 10:51

      people get stuck with last decade/century's ideas, talk without even trying it…

      • lunchbox99 on 26/09/2021 - 16:06
        +1

        You hear this "never ever upgrading" every single release.

        The same people unironically will do the same when the next update comes out (ie defend to the death the version they previously said they would never ever update to).

        Some people just have trouble coping with change. Once you completely ossify you're an "old person who doesn't understand new tech".

  • limucat on 23/09/2021 - 10:44
    -2

    I just remember reading on Reddit the one keyword about Windows 11 is "gaming"

    So probably not worth much for only home office work and studying and streaming Netflix?

    • FireRunner on 23/09/2021 - 11:05

      Definitely not a gaming orientated OS.
      The gaming experience upgrade don't sound too substantial imo, apart from a feature or two.

  • kungfuman on 23/09/2021 - 10:45

    the TPM2.0 chip is optional not required.

    • zander95 on 24/09/2021 - 09:42

      Optional only of you don't want any feature or security updates

  • GreyChris on 23/09/2021 - 10:45

    I tested windows 10 when it first came out as a beta. It was absolutely awful for about a year and made my PC unusable. I'd wait a bit based on that experience.

    • THICKnSLOW on 23/09/2021 - 18:47
      +1

      Funny, that sounds like the covid vaccinations rollout in Australia, the instability and unpredictability makes people want to wait that little bit longer..

      • GreyChris on 23/09/2021 - 21:00
        +1

        Don't see the link sorry. The vaccines work and are approved.
        I've had my two astras and really glad I did.

        This is the first release of a new operating system and from first hand experience the last one was trouble to start. I'd definitely love to have a play but not yet confident about using it as my daily.

        I've also had 2 latest windows updates brick my OS in the past year so I'm cautious about upgrading too quickly to the latest updates. Just offering some experience that may be helpful but yes, is not windows 11 specific, however I manage many computers and stability is important.

        Take care.

  • dreamscene on 23/09/2021 - 10:47

    Can you buy a TPM2.0 chip if you have an older PC?

    • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2021 - 10:51

      Yes if you meet other requirements

    • joelmuzz on 23/09/2021 - 10:56

      Likely there is a BIOS setting to enable the CPU onboard TPM.

    • kungfuman on 23/09/2021 - 11:23

      do you have a SPI - TMP header on your motherboard? if not, then you can't have a TPM chip. UNLESS its built in which then all you need to do is enable it in the bios

    • zander95 on 23/09/2021 - 11:29

      Short answer, no.
      TPM 2.0 is a relatively recent implementation.

      TPM in laptops is a laptop manufacturer level decision to include or if it is supportwe in the CPU.
      TPM in desktops is based on either CPU inclusion- new ones only, Motherboard inclusion- recent item, or motherboard add-on, which again is only if your motherboard can do so in the (last few generations, possibly Intel 7/8 gen onwards), and is TPM 2.0, and not 1.2.

      • kungfuman on 23/09/2021 - 13:05

        my motherboard has a spi - TMP header support TMP 2.0 all I need is the chip, also TMP 2.0 was released 2019. thats a long time ago in Technology years.

  • fuzor on 23/09/2021 - 10:48
    +6

    So much for Windows 10 being the last and only version of Windows…it was all just marketing talk.

    • joelmuzz on 23/09/2021 - 10:58
      +1

      Well it's a free upgrade and very little has changed under the hood.
      So it can just be considered a feature upgrade for Win10.

      • kungfuman on 23/09/2021 - 13:06
        -1

        free upgrade if your PC supports it.

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