Bosch 9kg washing machine $712
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P.S. I was considering pre-order LG 10kg series 9 for $791 as well free shipping but have to wait til late October (missed previous deal on the 12 kg around the same price)
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If I don’t mind waiting, is it better to go LG or Bosch
Bosch 1000%
Bosch for me any day
It depends on the model. German made Bosch (series 5 for example) are better than LG but I'd rate LG higher than often cheaper non-german Bosch. Just my two cents.
How do I know if this is German made?
Only Bosch series 8 for washing machines
Generally speaking, only Series 8 Bosch is made in Germany. Series 6 Bosch is, generally, made in Turkey. Series 4 and 2 Bosch are made elsewhere, I don't recall where. Not China, but some other Asian country.
There's no such thing as a Series 5 Bosch. Only 2, 4, 6, and 8. The only German-made Bosch is Series 8.
You're probably thinking of LG Series 5. A bit confusing.
Bosch as long as it was manufactured in Germany.
They both very good. I always had LG washers and never had a problem.
Having said that, I would go Bosch if German made, else LG all the way.
All LGs I looked at had silly "Steam Mode" built in. Waste of time and would chew up the power without any proof it cleans any better than a standard wash. Most my washes are cold so LG have ruled themselves out of my pick (coming from an LG that just died after 15 years, bearings and Spyder arm).
Also hate that many machines these days don't include hot water input. I already paid to heat my hot water tank so why pay again for machine to heat cold water.
Everyone has different priorities. In my case, I don't care about "Steam Mode" or no hot water inlet. I don't want to do the math on how much electricity will be saved by using hot water from the tank rather than the machine itself. I doubt it will be a massive difference.
All I want is reliable washer that can provide many years of service rather than ending up in a landfill right after the warranty has expired. That's the reason my last washer was LG, my current washer is LG from this deal in 2018 and my next washer will also be LG. One of the best $380 I ever spent.
@dealhunter52: Powerwise it is a big difference.
My point is that LG unfortunately have placed themselves outside my considerations by opting for the totally unnecessary silly gimmicky steam mode. It just adds complication to the things that can go wrong, not to mention extra cost that could have been better spent on better basic componants, especially on entry level machines.
They just needed to keep it simple and stick to the basics and be able to add the right amount of water, wash well, rinse and spin and is all that most people want. Oh and include decent offerings of wash modes. LG have a habit of having very long cycles with lack of shorter washes/control over wash lengths Bosch are better for that.
@Borg: surely you can turn the steam off if you didn't want to use it? Own a serie 6 Bosch and compared to my friends LG it's a lot louder. Direct drive is more innovative and it doesn't seem like LG is that far behind bosch in terms of reliability. At this price point I don't think you can go that wrong with either brand.
@mordinhoz: Yes, one can choose not to use it. I don’t have any issues with their original quality as mine is 15 years old. No idea about current models.
@bennybaubles: Sold my LG top loader in full working order after 8 years of use. Reason for selling it was that I bought the front loader from the deal mentioned in my above comment. Front loader was needed so that I can use it as a base for my dryer.
LG is underrated, in my opinion. An LG Series 5 or Series 7 is likely a better pick than a Bosch Series 4.
My Bosch series 4 washing machine died on Thursday and was tossing up between this and a Westinghouse. Bought the Westinghouse which could be had for $688 with price beat and have been happy.
Having said that can’t go wrong with either
How long did the Bosch live?
7 years
So not bad
My current LG been going almost 15, good deal but can't justify throwing it out until it dies.
Thats not very good at all for a washing machine.
My Bosch lasted from 1998 to 2024, so think again
7 years is not bad but definitely not great either. I've had a10 year old LG (sold as a used one before buying the current LG). Some Miele ones easily last 20 years plus.
I bought a german made Bosch 9kg. 5 years later, now out of warranty, the idos is not working & I'm getting error codes.
I-DOS was your mistake, never get those versions and you'll be fine, get the model below top of the line but still german made.
It was a Series 8? If it wasn't, it's not German made.
Unfortunately components such as I-DOS are among the most prone to failure.
Bosch Professional is also made in Germany. Ours works well after 10 years except IDOS (which I loved while it worked) and occasional sensor fault in water inlet that clears itself after few seconds. They work fine without IDOS which is $450 to replace.
We had fuzzy logic LG from 2003 that hasn't skipped a beat for 12 years and sold it when we upgraded.
I would go for either Bosch or LG again.
Mine is a series 8 & definitely german made which is why I bought it. Didn't know there was a german non idos version though. It's driving me nuts beeping with error code 81 even though idos is off. Not sure I would buy a Bosch again.
This one Poland made
If I'm not mistaken, no, this will not be Polish made. That would likely be Series 6 stuff. Series 4 will be somewhere in Asia (I don't recall which country, I just know it isn't China). Correct me if I'm wrong, though.
Series 4 is now made in Poland (was China) , Series 6 in Spain , Series 8 in Germany
Series 2 Turkey
good value.
1200rpm though, 1400+ would be ideal.
To wreck your cloths, then yes. :-)
Don't focus too hard on rpm. It really doesn't matter much in a washing machine, especially since different modes will change the RPMs anyway.
It does.
Higher rpms means faster drying time.
You can change rpms no matter which mode you choose, but options may be limited.
How does Bosch compare to Miele? Is Miele worth the money?
Generally speaking, Miele delivers solid performance and are very solidly made. They'll last a long time (in theory). Like any appliance, though, people have had very bad experiences with them, too. Typically, though, they'll last longer than a Bosch, especially a Series 4.
Put simply, if you've got the cash for a Miele, I'd recommend them. The problem is having cash for a Miele.
It's probably difficult to compare because we don't know how the washing machine is loaded or overloaded.
I'd probably go with the biggest washer that a budget can fit.
had this model for the past ~3yrs, the capacitive buttons have started playing up. Some of them have trouble registering presses, you have to put quite bit of pressure on it
Yeah, I have the Series 6, and the detergent draw stopper broke with barely any force. They don't make them like they used to
I've got a series 4 dishwasher. I love it. I'll be switching to their washing machine next when the LG packs up. Last LG only lasted 4 years
Although Choice Mag supposedly only supports brands that pay to be featured, their latest test doesn’t have any Bosch dryers on their recommended list. Not sure about their washers.
Does anyone know if it’s true that choice will only feature you if you pay them? I’ve noticed in their mattress test Sleeping Duck didn’t get a mention at all out of their extensive list this year. I can only assume that they didn’t want to pay to be featured or their manufacturing standards have dropped right off.
This isn't true. Sleeping Duck did get a mention this year and it was in their headline. I actually remember it - here's the article https://www.choice.com.au/home-and-living/bedroom/mattresses…
Canstar was on the news some time ago for being paid to review Maccas coffee positively. It is a privately owned business. Choice is Australia's not for profit consumer advocacy lobby and is member driven.
Not sure about dryers, but Choice did have Bosch washing machines on their top 10-15 list but they are the more expensive ones this year.
They also called Bosch out this year for kitchen appliances that did not meet expectations.
That’s strange cos the current October issue doesn’t mention them at all.
Herington Latex Dual Contour
A.H. Beard Organic Latex High Profile
Dunlopillo Luxurious Latex
Ecosa Pillow
Dentons Impressions Classic
SSNSNNN
Dentons Low Profile
King Koil Classic
A.H. Beard Organic Latex
Dunlopillo Luxurious Latex Style
T2774
Ikea Kvarnven
Sleeping Duck Pillow / Standard
Chiropedic Bamboo Classic
Dentons Ultime
Jason Kooling
Koala Pillow
Tontine Cool Dry Comfort
Ikea Rosenskarm
Dunlopillo Luxurious Latex Classic
EVA Pillow
Spinaleze Medium
Tempur Symphony
Ikea Klubbsporre
Sheridan Deluxe Feather & Down
Surround
Herington MicroFibre
Tontine Goodnight Easy Wash
2PK
Sheridan Deluxe Dream Standard
Sheridan Ultimate Luxury
Jaspa Black Al Seasons Australian
It's the one below IKEA
@sopranolog: Sorry I sent the pillow review. Here’s the latest mattress review.
Dusk & Dawn Essential MK2
Active Sleep Control
Breeze Firm Queen Mattress
Ecosa Pure (2023 model)
Ikea Vesteroy
Koala SE
Clark Rubber Comfort Platinum Latex
Kmart Euro Top Pocket Spring
Origin Hybrid Mattress
Zenna Latex Mattress
Art & Science Windsor (previously Silver)
Ikea Anneland
Original Mattress Factory Revivify
Sleep Republic Mattress
Zinus Support iCoil Pocket Spring Eurotop
A.H. Beard King Koil Comfort Plus
Valmori Home Collection Spring Mattress
Ecosa Essence
Fantastic Escape
Macoda Mattress
Slumberland Sutton Pillowtop
A.H. Beard King Koil Chiro Estate
A.H. Beard King Koil Chiro Reserve
Koala Plus
Sealy Posturepedic Exquisite Excellence
Valmori Home Collection Hybrid II
Ecosa Mattress (2022 model)
Home by Tempur Medium
Ikea Valevag
Sealy Advantage Gel Active
A.H. Beard King Koil Conforma Element
A.H. Beard King Koil Malibu Firm
Breeze Medium Cool Gel Euro Top Pocket
SleepMaker Elements Jordan
@bennybaubles: Interesting. Sadly Choice doesn't have the budget to buy literally every product on the market however the article I linked to above was published this year so it might be an addition to what they have. If I'm not mistaken, the list you've provided are beds that can be found in-store as opposed to online. What does the article say? (Not the list, but the actual article)
That said, I actually know someone who used to work in a mattress factory quite some time ago. I am not sure about now, but all mattresses were tested by both humans and machines for quality control purposes. But the best way to actually test a mattress is to try it out for yourself. It depends on how you sleep (e.g. back sleeper or side sleeper), your weight, how you move around in your sleep. So when you do test a mattress in the shop or when you get it delivered from an online store, you need to simulate movement to see if you find it ok or not. There are probably videos online on how you can test a mattress properly for yourself these days.
@sopranolog: The article is comparing sprung to foam, there’s a few foam ones like koala and tempur in the list. Omitting sleeping duck which was no 1 for a few times didn’t seem to make sense. If it was due to quality I would’ve thought they’d tell us. That’s why I thought there must be something more to it.
I just put it through AI and this is what it spat out. The choice research section they are paid by producers to test their products.
While they don't accept payment to influence their published reviews, CHOICE does have a separate program called CHOICE Test Research. Through this program, companies can ask CHOICE to test their product or service for feedback on how to make it better, safer, or fairer. This is a separate service and does not affect the independence of their public reviews.
My 11+ year old German made Bosch Series 8 washing machine gets a glowing recommendation from me; it has survived an absolute flogging, and going strong.
In my recent disassembly and repair learnings I found that the parts and manufacturing of Series 4 to be very much below 6 and Series 6 somewhat below Series 8.
If I remember correctly, some Series 6 models did share some components and similar internals with Series 8 but Series 4 parts and comparable internals were all clearly "made to a price". I've heard of and had similar hands-on experiences with German made and not-German-made Bosch dishwashers too. Not saying the Series 4 stuff is at all bad either; just, relatively, not in the ballpark of Series "Serie" 8, not even in the same league.
Ah yes good gi