I didn't see any mind blowing deals today?
I very well remember last year, there were at least few mins blowing deals at least, unattainable or not…
Like the timed eBay deals that get sellout in minutes…
But this year some deals on Robo vacuums were good. None to shout about.
Or is it all Ozbees busy buying than posting deals?🤔
Are These The Worst Deals for Black Friday?
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Makes sense… And I saw km long queues for Shopping Centres… At around 8 pm… Am I crazy to think these people are crazy…🤷♂️

you are not. These dumbs not just ruin things for themselves but for everyone else as well

I guess someone with a mortgage who is saving every penny is burning with rage reading this. Not only are they not getting rate cuts, but if the sheet hits the fan, rate will rise.

@bomberswarm2: Are you sure? Because you're basically still losing purchasing power with your 4% or whatever savings rate.

womp womp loser
imagine developing an intellectual superiority compex over not shopping

And I saw km long queues for Shopping Centres…
I saw one too for the shopping centre carpark. if you go anywhere near it it's just a massive traffic jam all in the surrounding area. didn't realise till getting closer to the carpark that it was the reason. everyone trying to get into a shopping centre carpark, which is huge but almost completely full. all small side streets nearby affected too. it was nuts.

It was fun

@Nillionaire: oh you were there?! 😂
I was riding in someone else's car. nothing to get fussed about like traffic, but I thought it was pretty nuts when we got closer and realised the problem.
I think the overall problem was, more cars wanted to get into the carpark then cars that wanted to leave, and parked cars were only slowly leaving.

Rates need to be at least a few more percentage higher than here. We were just 0.75% higher a few months ago and there were also no proper sales back then.

So true people are crazy. I still don't understand how they have so much money to spend. It pretty much seems like they are spending money that they don't have (AKA credit cards)

It's because there is quite literally a 2 speed economy, people who bought a house "pre-covid"/Government money printing/"stimulus" are still loving life, a few % interest rate increase isn't really hurting most of them and they now "feel" super rich because their "net worth" is well into the hundreds of thousands, purely due to buying a roof over their head, so they are spending.
Then there is the people who bought in the last 5 years or renters, who are dealing with having paid twice as much for their house/their rent doubling… they are the ones hurting going "why are the interest rates still so high!?!?"

Such a stupid take in my opinion, so people with a paper net worth aren't hurting even though interest rates went up and as a result must be spending? Do you think having equity just gives you permission to just spend money? What money? Who's money are you spending?
If you bought a house in 2020 which has probably gone up heaps, as have your interest rates, unless you've had decent pay rises or bought well below your means you are likely priced out of that house.
People's spending is probably more likely to do with their disposable income than their net worth. People just have more money than you think. Also the anecdotes of 'oh the shopping centres and cafes are full, we need to raise rates' is so dumb, I don't have a lot of disposable income, I also don't spend a lot of money and do like to get out and sit at a cafe and have lunch on the weekend, you don't know peoples circumstances, maybe they used to get several dishes and share, maybe they now get a coffee and a cake? Maybe the people at the shopping centres are just doing some window shopping while getting a take away coffee. Also its like 4 weeks from christmas, of course its going to be packed.

I personally know of quite a few young families that aren't necessarily hurting but at the same time not earning enough in the Sydney area. They have accepted they will never own a home or if they can get in by the skin of there teeth that it's not worth the ongoing financial stress of owning a home and barely scraping by and then having issues with relationships, family life etc. Instead they are accepting paying rent long term. They don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars in the bank but they do have a "down payment" they had been saving for years in preparation of pulling the trigger on a property at some point. This coupled with the money they save weekly is now going towards bassicly just enjoying life, family holidays, new cars, 4wd with a caravan for weekend getaway, a lot of eating out, buying nice gear for hobbies, new phones, new clothes etc.
I know this isn't everyones situation but it's an interesting perspective that I have come across quite a bit. Would be interesting to know how wide spread this lifestyle choice is across Australia and if in fact if it's a decent contribution to the crazy spending.

Raising rates does nothing to top ppl spending, look at what happened last few years… ppl kept spending like crazy and rest of inflation is driving by price rises.

Yup, people keep saying raise rates. That only impacts in any real fashion about 30-40% of people. The rest of the people are minimally impacted or not impacted at all and will keep spending.. Its daft to think that we can stop everyone from spending by hitting a third of the population really hard.
a non advertised , no advance notice. 3K$ TV sold out with plenty of stock in 30 minutes from impulse purchases which will show that raising interest rates doesnt seem to have affected them or their hesitation to impulse spend 3k$

Rates does not just equal residential mortgages, fwiw.

It does, and it has to. If there is less money in people's pockets, how can they spend it?
Interest rates doesn't just mean home loans, it means business funding too. If a business is paying 10% interest instead of 2% then many projects / buildings / expansions simply don't add up, and would lose money if they went ahead. Then that feeds through to people not getting employed to do the project that just got cancelled, and they don't buy the $1million of lumber and steel to build the building, and don't buy $500k of computers, etc etc (random examples). And all that means less demand for things and prices less pumped up for all the inputs.
At the peak rate they should have held it there for another 3 months, or done 2 more small raises, in my opinion. It was treated more like 'just wait a bit then as soon as rates go down lets madly spend again'. There needed to be actual pain and more damage to the economy by higher rates for longer, unfortunately. And I say this as a mortgage holder who didn't have a lot of spare cash when rates were at the peak.
I think I would trust the RBA over the arm chair economists on Ozbargain.

Not even a good scummy 6 month ISP deal

I got a free spray mop when I purchased a house.

It definitely was for me. I had an eye on a book and some basketball cards. They actually went up in price leading up to BF and then never came back down :(

ey Old Pump and discount - gotta be on ebay?

nope on Amazon :(

Everything was much cheaper 2 weeks ago…
Damn you Jack!

Haven't found a single thing to buy this year… not one single thing.

True… I'm waiting for a Q990F deal, but nothing discounted less than pre-BF

Never have seen a deal any year i really needed. Most people who buy on Black friday deals dont needbthe item they just want it.

Dog do!
Looking for an LG C5 OLED TV, and basically a new set of kitchen appliances.
Were better deals a month ago.
Cyber Monday better kick some goals.
Yeah, hoping so…

I am in the same boat, was looking at C5 deal a months ago, hoping to see a better deal during BF & cyber Monday, disappointed so far
dont know whether I should compromise and get the B5 instead, which seems to be a much better deal at the moment

Two economists are walking down the street when one points to the ground and says, “Look, a ten dollar bill!”
The second economist replies, “That’s crazy. If that was a ten dollar bill someone would have picked it up already.”

Ha ha…. Ha …. It's layered…(Esp when we don't get it)

Depends.
Have saved $3K myself v if bought weeks ago.
Spent $9K though lol
The sad reality is that interest rates probably need to go up higher to at least 8-10% for us to return to having proper sales again. This is likely sufficient to reduce consumer confidence to a point where the department stores need to entice us again.

Never going to happen though.
Also its not the retailers that pay for discounts, its the suppliers. Eg do you think coles and ww do 50% out of their own pocket? No.

Honestly I feel like all that would achieve would consolidating wealth even more, the people who bought 5, 10, 20+ years ago and probably own multiple houses, it wouldn't worry them one bit, the ones who bought in the last 5 years would possibly be forced to sell… and they'd be selling to the 1st group.

Merged from Black Friday. what a dissapointment!
Did I miss something?
Or have our overlords decided to strarve us this year.
You must have been living under a rock the last few weeks…

How many of these threads do we need?

well I would say people's frustration are valid.

They are but it's nothing new and it could all be done in one thread.

Yes gotta echo this mods could put all these in one
I do get peoples frustration as it feels like Black Friday has become a bit 'over-rated'
But this is like the 3rd thread complaining about how shit BF this uear was

yep rubbish sales, been like that for a few years, have got much better deals on ozbargain throughout the year though.

Fully agree, didn’t buy anything apart from a Xmas present for one of the kids using Amazon 20% cashback.
Was a complete washout.

this BF i've bought a couple of things like backpack, massage gun for missus, a pocket knife for self-defense, and new tyres at Mycar..
Agreed it's not really crazy discount or anything but if you need it now you buy it.
Aussie BF is always terrible isn't it, i get hyped up in the lead up and leave the 20% discount days waiting for BF and they offer 10% or something crap.

inflated prices, then a discount on Black Friday…….ah normal prices

I'm satisfied. Got a Meta Quest 3 for 25% off (which I think is an ATL), a year of NBN for $68 a month, some Hawes and Curtis and CT pants and shirts for a decent price, a glinet flint 2 for about $155 and some other odds and ends. Not the best ever but the best sale of the year for me.

people need to stop thinking of it as a "Huge sale with bargains" more like targeted marketing towards people so they get fomo over xmas stock levels.

I think it started out as a "huge sale with bargains" but over the years it's just become a marketing gimmick.
For example Nike has had the same 30% off sale every now and then this year. Now they have the same sale but it's just called their Black Friday sale.

I think it started out as a "huge sale with bargains" but over the years it's just become a marketing gimmick.
ok fyi while I've been a grown up and taking sales seriously BF has never been great.
soon after I joined ozb and signed up to cashback site, a few times I do remember stacking 40% off sale (UA, Footlocker etc) + extra % code + 20~30% cashback though. but pretty sure that wasn't BF it was just a random time of the year.

Black Friday deals give me crypto vibes. The bull run has already happened and people are trying to enter the market and time the market

A part of the problem is there's no Black Friday. It's some weird Black November kinda whole of month thingy.
Nobody really knows when to pull the trigger. I held solid all the way to the Friday hoping there would be some big deals, and there was bugger all. If anything, the deals were a week or two ago.
I figure the retailers know we have cash to spend and they're opening up their deals earlier and earlier in the hope we buy from them. By the time BF gets around, everyone has already spent their money. Well, that's what the retailer thinks and is why they keep starting earlier.
Next year I will be waiting for Entree October.

yeah this year the whole BF was nothing much of a deal at all tbh, i guess that just shows how inflationary the things are right now still. Lets hope inflation is down soon so we get some good deals soon in 2026.
Anyway if BF was this bad then you can only imagine how bad the Boxing day will be in terms of deals.

Surprises me that they're still allowed to call it Black Friday. Would have thought somebody became offended or outraged and had it changed by now.

Inclusive Friday? Rainbow Friday? Acknowledgement Friday?

Well the Catholics have already called dibs on Good Friday.

weird thing is. I was just having that thought which I never had before about the black in BF. like isn't calling it Black Friday kinda racist? especially when it's a US thing.
it's like saying "these sales will be so banana's, you will be acting like a monkey and beating your fellow shoppers over the head with a bat for a chance at the last one in stock!!"

It would only be racist if it was called Black in reference to people of colour.
Without googling, I doubt that has anything to do with how the marketers arrived at the name Black Friday for these sales.
World just so crazy these days though, people often finding offence where none was ever intended.
They banned Fat Cat because he didn't wear pants FFS!

doubt that has anything to do with how the marketers arrived at the name Black Friday for these sales.
the first and only other reference to black I thought of was "black eye" fridays. as in spouse on spouse violence or being punched by your fellow shopper. but that probably has about the same amount of evidence. not the greatest references either..
people often finding offence where none was ever intended.
people just find a reason to whinge about anything. not that big a deal. I swear it got worse during covid though. I sometimes whinge about something just to ragebait someone. you can probably tell in person because I smile as the other person gets cranky. 😂

True! Meanwhile Coon Cheese became Cheers… all for what? The last name of the guy who founded Coon Cheese was in fact, Coon. So what and why? People always find a reason to bring something down and I expect they will continue to. Sigh.

@cunningdrew: they should have rebranded to Goon Cheese. would have been massive success. missed opportunity. 😂

@n3ck3ntry8bort0rgasm: Nah, I think a goon has something to do with those boxes of cask wine. People would claim it was promoting alcohol consumption or something.
Thought about Moon cheese, but I think moonies has reference to some religious membership, so that would fail the pub test, then others would say that moon was encouraging people to present their backside to others in a disrespectful manner.
Boon might work? David boon was a cricketer and there is boondocks - can't think of anything offensive there
H - no
J - no
K - no
L - hard noNoon?
P- I think that has sexual connotations, so no
R - ?
S - could work
T - maybe
V - meh
W - weird ish
Y - sure
Z - eh

Muppet Detected

Self nominating?

I thought muppets were those furry characters from sesame street.
or are both of you using it as a slur word.

@n3ck3ntry8bort0rgasm: He's being rude.
Muppets are puppets (including Kermit the Frog) who had their own TV show years ago.
More recently though, the term muppet has been used to call someone out for being an airhead or not having a clue. Probably nicer than calling somebody a "silly bugger".
Sort of like saying "you're being silly".

@n3ck3ntry8bort0rgasm: Slur? His name is Muppet Detector, I reply Muppet Detected whenever he says something I find silly lol

The main problem is most of the major retailers are owned by 3-4 companies.
Good guys and jb hifi are the same company
Harvey is harvey
Greenlit brands own fantastic
Super group owns supercheap etc
Bunnings lolThere is very little incentive for the retailers to break down their margins.
Could be worse we could become like new zealand.

I think in Korea, Samsung and Hyundai own everything

I'm sorry there used to be a Korea. I believe you mean Samdai.

could be worse, clickfrenzy says hi.

clickfrenzy
I saw that one from afar on ozb. and didn't even participate it sounded so bad. 😂

Only thing that was worth it was 50% of pirelli tyres at mycar and some bits n pieces on amazon.

I actually bought more than I probably ever have, but mostly because of timing. I got:
- Blinds for the house for 20% off (these are ALWAYS discounted, but 20% is the highest I've seen and I didn't want to wait too long given that it's starting to warm up)
- Accessories for a new car (would've bought these regardless, but a little extra discount didn't hurt)
- The Bunnings battery mower deal (because my old mower was limping along and had enough gift cards to cover it)
- Some dishwasher tablets from Kmart (because our stocks were < 100….)
I was bummed that no PC deals popped up, presumably because of RAM prices. This was probably the only thing that I was actually looking forward to BF for, but unlucky timing I guess.

Try the aldi powder

After covid thr r no more deals tbh imo

Where there hell was the Woolworths half price subscription??

what do you mean where was. I have never heard of a deal on Woolworths subscription.
in fact they are notoriously stingy. wouldn't even give partial refund to family member when they claimed how horrible the experience was (regular missing items, frozen items like ice cream not properly chilled in the truck).

Good point. I was looking for the $35 upgrade.

Think ive spent about $1k and happy.
My spend has split between Amazon, Chem Warehouse and Aliexpress (with whom my trust has been growing over last 2 years).
- a kindle paperwhite (and did a jailbreak within 30mins)
- Lenovo ipad pro and keyboard for $300 on Ali v 800 at JB (noting fiddling required as Chinese version)
- stupid Bitzee toy for kid 50 down to 36 but its been on her xmas wishlist all year
- a 2nd Philips Fidelio X2HR because i love my first one still
- wife rampaged on chem warehouse stuff

Aliexpress (with whom my trust has been growing over last 2 years).
wild

Jailbreaking a kindle… Does that allow you to get ebooks free?

Nar, predominantly just lets you install a diff reader with more file type options, add own screensaver pic and avoids amazon lockin.
You can find free ebooks everywhere separately and put on a normal un-jailbroken kindle.

This has been one of the better Black Friday years. Past sales felt weak in comparison, but the current deals are decent. I have spent about $1K on various items, with almost all my items at ATL.

Will there be any good cashback deals for Cyber Monday?

Pretty lame this year, but I'm happy with this. Saves me FOMO buying crap I don't need. Instead I used this weekend to clear our junk around the house to put on marketplace. Made $700 alone.

Yeah, it was underwhelming.
Bought a few gifts on discount. Bought a few things that I would have bought even not on sale.
Prices for LOTS of things actually went up during black friday sales with a sales sticker but they are fooling no one.
So yeah, we should forget about black friday altogether.

only ok deal was the google streamer 4k i got for $68 dollars from JB with a 10 dollar bday coupon, retails $159

yeah, I got one too as i had the cba yello $15 off

The other way to look at this is if a business can suddenly chop prices by 50%, that just means they're usually gouging you all year round.

Many do but tbf some need to get rid of stock, and cant hold on to them too long post mfg date depending on the product. Especially anything with a battery.

Is this the same question asked every year?

I have a few items in my Amazon cart since October.
Had a few coupons and discounts on some items which were then removed on Black Friday and less discounting applied. Very obvious sellers don't want to lose too much to Black Friday,

Getting a 50kWh solar battery installed for $3999 inclusive of up to 3 canopies, concrete pavers, bollards, smoke alarms & 20m of cabling was pretty mind blowing! The 24" 27" & 32" monitor deals were also mind blowing at all time lows.
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We are in a high inflation environment, so that basically means people will keep spending regardless.
Wait until rates rise to the levels they should be at (IMO, +0.5% from here would be a more sustainable level to start with) and people actually have to cut back on things.
If shopping centres and cafes are packed every weekend then why would they bother giving discounts.