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½ Price Cancer Council, Dermaveen Sensitive Sunscreens, 30% off CeraVe + Delivery ($0 C&C) @ Chemist Warehouse
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Which brands would you recommend instead?
The kids one passed, and its relatively cheap. $16.47 for the 500ml pump. Nothing says that adults can't use kids sunscreen, infact it just means theres less irritable ingredients.
Cool, thanks
SPF test results are specific to product formulas, as demonstrated in this case where Cancer Council has some products that passed and some didn't (and not their entire range was tested).
So there's no point avoiding specific brands, it's not a case of the brand not doing their part as all sunscreens have to be submitted to the TGA with accompanying third-party SPF test results before they can be on the market. The issues we've seen in the media so far have often been with the failures of the third-party testing lab in following proper testing procedures (even though they were paid to do it).
I'm confused, are you saying that the choice testing was inaccurate?
@dottjt: Hes just saying that 'brands' passing means nothing. As you can see Cancer council had 3 fail and only 1 pass. This doesn't mean all Cancer Council sunscreens fail, nor do they all pass.
@ATangk: Fail and pass are the wrong words. They didn't meet the SPF level standard as tested by Choice. So far TGA has only given one the flick. The rest block marginally less UVB than claimed - at this point- which is concerning as far as labelling and pricing go.
@ATangk: the cancer council ones each packaging has different formulation, not the same formula in 3 different packagings,
@dottjt: Not at all. Firstly sunscreen testing isn't an exact science and involve actual human subjects - they literally shine UV light on patches of human skin with applied sunscreen and visually check for colour change. So it's good to do it a few times and different labs (with different test subjects). But at some point, Cancer council would've paid a testing lab to test their own formulas, and submit those results that demonstrated that they met SPF label claims to the TGA. Otherwise they wouldn't have been able to put their products on the market in the first place.
There's more info on the this TGA article, and it mentions the challenges of sunscreen testing.
https://www.tga.gov.au/news/news-articles/sunscreen-spf-test…
But in the case of the infamous Ultra Violette sunscreen that tested at SPF 4, that was the case of a dodgy sunscreen testing lab. Other sunscreens that used the same base formula have been pulled from shelves.
@moocher: I've seen it all on the news, social media etc about the choice testing.
As a person with pasty white Northern European skin that goes red at even the thought of the Sun, I have been using the Cancer Council Ultra and Sport sunscreens for years fully tested by myself and my kids for several hours every Saturday at Little Athletics during the peak of Western Australian summer between 7am and 2pm, so far no sunburn and regular skin checks with no signs of concern.
@CheapGit: Sounds like you're making an effort, but a word of warning against complacency. For many people it takes years/decades to see significant damage from too much UV exposure and too little protection. And, as you likely know, UV isn't an issue only during sunny days.
@Igaf: Funnily enough it was an extremely overcast cloudy day in March during a holiday trip down here, a few years before i made the move permanent, I was doing a spot of fishing wading in and out of the water and boy did my knees get it! haven't made that mistake again.
Now many years later my teenage kids hate my constant nagging about sun protection and my choices in wide brim hates LOL
@capslock janitor: My kids have it twice a year but also as part of all their other health checks due to existing health issues.
Ive got slack and im overdue a check.
is it half price because were getting half the rated spf protection still? anyone know if theyve fixed them yet?
Read this TGA advice, it should allay most fears.
https://www.tga.gov.au/news/news-articles/sunscreen-spf-test…Of the Choice products only one - SPF 4 (tested) Ultra Violette Lean Screen SPF50+ - has lost its licence (ergo, if you have it, "throw it out"). With others on their list the problems involve marginal differences in actual protection, and testing procedures.
TGA extract:
What does the SPF number mean in practice?
No sunscreen is ever 100% effective at blocking all UV radiation, which is why sunscreens are not allowed to use the term ‘sunblock’. The SPF value for a sunscreen indicates how much longer it will take for a person exposed to the sun to suffer from sunburn or the other adverse effects of sun exposure compared to a person who is not wearing any sunscreen at all.When applied correctly, an SPF 30 sunscreen filters approximately 97% of UVB rays, while an SPF 50 sunscreen filters approximately 98%. The difference in protection between an SPF of 30 and 50 is small, and this difference becomes even smaller as the SPF value increases. Even an SPF 20 sunscreen still filters approximately 95% of UVB rays and therefore provides a much better level of sun protection than no sunscreen at all.Regardless of the SPF value, you should always apply sunscreen according to the instructions on the label, especially when sweating or swimming. Most people do not use enough sunscreen. However, if you use sunscreen according to the label instructions and still experience an adverse event (like sunburn), we encourage you to report this to the TGA (further information below).Even sunscreen that effectively protects at SPF 50 allows 2% of UVB rays to penetrate your skin. As such, it is important to also use other measures to protect against harmful rays such as seeking shade, wearing protective clothing, a hat, and sunglasses.
Wondering if anyone had any recommendations for other brands? I've tried la roche porsay and tried japanese ones like Biore UV, Nvidea.
Hoping to try out others that are either lighter on the cream/oil or water based.
+1 Hamilton's everyday face.
Half price at Woolies this week.
Ah nice, I was about to check if it was half price elsewhere
Thanks moocher will give it a shot!
You can try round lab sunscreen, it's my go to recommendation for people who hate to use sunscreen because of how it feels on the face
If we're talking Korean sunscreens, most of them are light and very pleasant to use. Some good ones I've used off the top of my head
- Beauty of Joseon Rice + Probiotic
- SKIN1004 Centella Water Fit Sun Serum
- Benton - Air Fit UV Defense Sun Cream SPF50+ PA++++
- Isntree - Hyaluronic Acid Watery Sun Gel SPF50+ PA++++
Were would you go to try or get these? Don't think I saw some in Kmall09 in NSW.
@cerealsmok3r: you cant really try korean/japanese/etc sunscreens in person anymore.. or at least i dont know of any places where u can
Do we know if Korean sunscreens are suitable for the Australian climate?
@Pecan: Korean sunscreens also require external SPF testing just like the Australian products. The main difference is the use case. Koreans have culture of wearing sunscreen daily on the face, so they have a big market for formulas are meant to be lightweight and not water-resistant. The ones I've listed, along with a lot of korean sunscreens popular in the west, fall into this category. They do make water/sweat-resistant sunscreens as well, but they are harder to get here.
As for Australia, we don't have a strong culture of wearing sunscreen daily and only apply when going to the beach or spending many hours outdoors. That's why most Australian sunscreens are made to be water-resistant. To be water-resistant means the product needs to form a film that doesn't rub or wash off easily, and that means anything from a bit to a lot more stickiness depending on the formula. But we also have daily wear sunscreens that are light but not water-resistant e.g. Hamilton everyday face, Cancer council Cancer Council SPF 50+ Day Wear Face Matte Invisible, Aldi Ombra Daily Defence Face Moisturiser Sunscreen SPF50+
TLDR: Apply the appropriate sunscreen depending on the use case, regardless of whether it's Australian or Korean
@moocher: From the Background Briefing podcast I inked below, be careful wrt SPF rating if your product has an Aust L number 407959
@Igaf: Thanks lgaf, I never go for pure Zinc sunscreens (though I have used hybrid formulas). Your podcast was most interesting, and ABC news article came out as well. Interestingly, that 'VeganicSKN' manufacturer was behind all those cheapo Zinc sunscreens listed on OzBargain years ago.
Damn! Bought 2× 1L Cerave lotions from a Korean place in Melbourne online about a week ago. Wish this sale was on early. Cerave is my favourite body.lotion but it's usually pricey.
how much did you pay
$61.11 for two (after $6.79, or 10% discount). Wanted only 1 but their free delivery was on orders above $48, so got 2. And the seller is Lila Beauty by the way. They were the cheapest I could find at the time.
Amazon usually do 30% off, and extra saving if you are an Amazon prime member right now. I only purchase when they are on sale.
Cancer Council Clear Zinc Kids got a special spotlight by TGA today: https://www.tga.gov.au/safety/recalls-and-other-market-actions/market-actions/cancer-council-sunscreen-clear-zinc-kids-spf50-110g
For those who may actually be unaware about SunscreenGate, read more here: https://www.choice.com.au/health-and-body/beauty-and-personal-care/skin-care-and-cosmetics/articles/sunscreen-test
TGA has a recall table of sunscreen products thats being updated regularly here: https://www.tga.gov.au/safety/recalls-and-other-market-actions/market-actions/multiple-sunscreens-recall-lower-claimed-spf-levels
Thanks. I've got one of the affected Zinc batches. Thought it was just that weird consistency.
Will get it refunded/exchanged.
What. I am sure they are more interested in $.
?? Your comment is incoherent and they don’t make prescription medications
parent company… not the same thing obviously… either way your comment was obviously meaningless
If anyone has health insurance with FRANK most of their extras policies get $50/year to spend on Cancer Council sunscreen. Just upload your receipt and ensure it clearly says its a Cancer Council product.
Also AHM last time I was with them.
Tried La Roshay, decent but bloody expensive…
Will give DermaVeen a go
If you mean the Dermaveen Sensitive Sun SPF 50+ Moisturising Face & Body Cream, that will feel a bit stickier because it is 4 hour water-resistant. If you want something light for everyday face wear and more wallet friendly, try out the Hamilton everyday face
Most sunscreens contain dangerous cancer causing chemicals
For we the 'great unwashed', what are those chemicals and what cancer do they cause Ozzy?
I doubt this will help given your aversion to reality but for other Ozbargainers it might be useful;
Ten sunscreen myths debunkedThis one's a doozy. Get it from RFK Jnr or did you make invent it yourself? Nobel prize winner in waiting.
OzzyboyBargainHunter - "Detoxification of parasites will go a long way in shrinking and or eliminating most cancers. Fact. 01/07/2025 - 15:46**And? What do you think many of the comments on this deal relate to? I suggest you read them and get a little knowledge before you spruik more utter nonsense about a topic you clearly know sfa about.
Having trouble answering my question above? Whooda thort.
In case you've forgotten:Which chemicals and what cancer(s)?
If you're after the Cancer Council sunscreen, also check Big W and Woolworths.
Big W has the following on clearance:
Cancer Council Face Day Wear Moisturiser Face & Body Matte Finish SPF50+ 150ml $10 vs $11.97 @ CW
Cancer Council Ultra Sensitive Kids SPF50+ 150mL $10 vs $13.47 @ CWWoolworths seems to be running 50% off their normal selling price for most the range whereas CW is 50% off RRP.
Woolies are doing half price on Cancer Council too, actually cheaper since Chemist Warehouse usually inflates the RRP.
The mystery deepens further. This exposee about "non-chemical" sunscreens is eye opening if not jaw dropping from both regulatory failure and industry practices perspective. Well worth the full 37m listen. You can make up your own mind about where faults lie and who to believe wrt SPF labels and tests.
"When the founder of a skincare company learns his zinc sunscreen isn’t achieving its promised level of protection in preliminary tests, he hopes there'll be a fix. But not long afterward he makes a shocking discovery that suggests the true scale of the problem may be much larger, and potentially stretches across dozens of products on Australian shelves."
If you buy a product with a certain Aust L number you might be concerned, at least until the TGA sorts out what is obviously a significant problem.
Cancer Council Ultra - 24 SPF
Cancer Council Everyday Value - 27 SPF
Cancer Council Kids Clear Zinc - 33 SPF
Cancer Council Kids Sunscreen - 52 SPF
https://www.choice.com.au/health-and-body/beauty-and-persona…