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[NSW, QLD, SA] 5:30pm - 7:30pm Export Rate 45¢/kWh / [VIC] 35¢/kWh | Stay 3 Months for $150 Signup Credit @ Flow Power

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Flow Power have introduced a Happy Hour from 5:30pm - 7:30pm for the export rate (feed-in tariff) for their Residential Plan

VIC gets 35c/kWh , NSW, QLD & SA gets 45c/kWh
Export rate at all other times is $0/kWh

All new customers also get a $150 credit*

Sign-up requires app.

Promotional period dates not specified.

Flow Power uses fixed supply tariff rates but variable usage tariff rates, higher during peak times (e.g. evenings) and lower during non-peak times (e.g. midday).

*Offer only available for new customers. To receive the full $150 credit (incl. GST) you must stay with Flow Power for 3 months with a $50 credit being applied across the first 3 electricity bills. Any unused credit will roll over to the next bill and is non-refundable, non-transferable, non-redeemable for cash. Offer available for limited time only.

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  • Looks great, can the credit from FIT be refunded back to your bank account?

    • -4

      Usually it does!

    • +1

      Last line of above description:
      "Any unused credit will roll over to the next bill and is non-refundable, non-transferable, non-redeemable for cash. Offer available for limited time only."

      • +3

        That refers to the $150 sign on bonus / $50 p/month. The * is what's important, and the fact the paragraph ends with offer available for limited time only - meaning this sign on credit, not FIT refunds.

        • That’s somewhat how I read it but how confident are you? Is it worth asking their support during the week?

          I just signed up to AGL battery rewards last night but might call them to cancel

          • +2

            @Brick50:

            If the customer’s account is in credit at the end of the Offer period, Flow Power’s standard refund processes apply.

            https://flowpower.com.au/residential/150-sign-up-credit/swit…

          • @Brick50: Are you single phase or 3 phase?
            Single phase and larger battery you could be better off with AGL still (I am)

            • @leeroys_dad: Can you explain a little further? AGL is capped at 20kwh a day I believe (anything more and you don't get any more gift cards)
              If you can export 20kwh in the 2 hours flow will be better.

              Secondly flows FIT is higher than their price per kwh I believe at other times, so you can likely just smash force discharge for the 2 hours and if you run out of battery overnight you'll still be ahead.

              But agree if you have high usage in those times and you don't export as much to grid then I can see how AGL might be able work better, but if you have to draw from grid at all the price per kwh is higher than the export price

              • +4

                @Brick50: Single phase only

                AGL between 5-9 avg export 17.3 to receive the $400 gift card (25c each)
                But all exports with AGL include a 3c FIT. So 17.3 export includes additional 3c, plus any FIT during the day. My current daily FIT generates additional $1
                AGL for me is $5 peak export + $1 nonpeak export - $1.30 daily supply, net $4.70/day profit

                Flow has maximum credit due to peak FIT only: 2 hours * 5kw export limit * 45c = $4.50 peak export
                Minus your daily supply charge, net ~$3.20/day profit

                • @leeroys_dad: Is rhat 5kw export limit an inverter limitation or mandated by flow power?

                  • +1

                    @U30004: I just tried to export from my 51.2kWh Solplanet battery at night with a 10kW inverter at 9kW, no luck, it maxed out at 4.97kW so I must be export limited to 5kW just like my solar exports. This is an issue that nobody clarifies, it looks like yes, whatever your solar export is capped at, your battery export is no different. As such, 2hrs of exporting at 5kW will only give you a maximum credit of $1642.50/year with Flow Power. The AGL battery rewards plan will give you up to $2400 for normal households and $2600 in the first year for people with a Sigenergy battery.

                    • @supersabroso: Sounds like you are a single phase user.

                      I have 3 phase and export out at around 9kw, keeping about 1kw for my own consumption per hour.

                      If you have 3 phase you can contact your energy distributor to apply to increase your export rate

          • +1

            @Brick50: I'm with AGL, any profit made from FIT, after they take out the electricity cost I've used, gets credited to my bank account each month

          • @Brick50: I was eyeing the agl plan too.
            You think this is better?
            Agl gives $800 credit after the first year

            • @edrift: But what can you use the $800 credit for? By the time you can access it it's going to be December 2026 and yes you will have a daily supply charge but if you're going to be using your battery for self use then you won't really be drawing at all from the grid (and can't use the credit) unless you have a gas account still

              I don't want to be stuck with AGL for 12 months and then have to wait until winter to be able to use some of the $800 credit

              • @Brick50: Yeah I know what you mean.
                But their 25c gift card bonus seemed decent.
                I guess the $800 would last roughly 2 years of supply charge after the first year, but if they got rid of the 25c gift card incentive then it could be a bit crap.

                Do we know if flow power limits the fit?
                We'd need to export 4kw/day just to cover supply charge.
                I'm optimistic I could export 10-15kw in that short window but won't know for sure

              • @Brick50: Regarding the free $800 credit, that is a bonus and I ignored it in my calculations. However, if I am still with AGL after 12 months my plan would be (to validate with AGL whether this will operate the way I hope):

                • export during 5-9pm for 25c
                • charge from grid to fill battery overnight
                • export all solar generated from first sunlight at 3c (would already have full battery)
                • ask for all FIT credit to be paid to my bank account
                • pay for daily supply and overnight grid charging using the free $800 credit
                • @leeroys_dad: Why charge from grid? Their rates are pretty expensive.

                  • +3

                    @edrift: Just to use up the $800 credit. I am generally self sufficient and do not need the grid (other than to export for ROI) so it would be the only way to make use of the credit. I don't have gas so I cannot transfer. If we had 3 weeks of rain that might be a different story (but in that story I probably wouldn't export during peak)

                    • @Brick50: Got it.

                      I only just had my solar (9.2kw) and battery (42kwh) installed so haven't figured it out yet. Waiting for fit meter reconfiguration to happen.

                      I always worried I would still end up paying the circa $1/day supply charge.

                • @leeroys_dad: @leeroys_dad do you have the link to the AGLoffer you have detailed above? I couldn't find it OzB, thanks in advance.

            • @edrift: sorry noob q, where did you find the $800 agl credit? after first year? i looking at above postings in thread but couldnt see it

          • @Brick50: do you need to prove you have battery to get on that AGL plan? like similar to what people happened with the EV plan?

            • +1

              @ATTS: I don't think it makes any sense to go on it without a battery.

      • +3

        their website FAQ suggests any credit can be transferred out to nominated bank account.

    • +1

      wow why is energy such a rip off in NSW and VIC lol

      • -3

        wow why is energy such a rip off in NSW and VIC lol

        The Climate Cult got rid of all the reliable energy supply so what did you expect?

        Anyone with 5 more than minutes of an Economics education could have told you this would happen. Supply goes down, price goes up. If only we could get the average voter to grasp this simple concept.

        • +1

          The Climate Cult got rid of all the reliable energy supply

          Can you point out a single instance where you could reasonably claim that an existing energy source on the grid was "gotten rid of"?

          Actually, can you even identify where overall supply has been reduced?

          • -1

            @klaw81: How about the government forcing farmers down south to give up land so they can put windmills up? I prefer farmers to produce good food not give up land.

            • @kungfuman: Well done posting about something completely different, with zero relevance to what's being discussed.

              I prefer farmers to produce good food not give up land.

              Your preference is noted, but who asked?

              And please bear in mind that they're compensated pretty well for the land, rather than just giving it up for nothing.

              But assuming your concern is genuine,.maybe you could consider the following:

              1. There's no shortage of farming land - over half of Australia's land mass is used for agriculture, and wind farms only take up a tiny fraction of 1% of that area;

              2. Most of the food produced in Australia is exported anyway because we grow far more than we could possibly use. So tiny reduction in food production is not a cause for concern;

              3. Building wind turbines on farmland does not preclude the use of the land for agricultural purposes anyway. Dual usage of agricultural land is commonplace both in Australia and around the world.

              • @klaw81: "uld reasonably claim that an existing energy source on the grid w" you asked this this is a reason for it.

                • @kungfuman:

                  you asked this this is a reason for it

                  Can you explain how talking about building new wind farms relates to getting rid of existing energy sources on the grid?

              • -1

                @klaw81:

                Your preference is noted, but who asked?

                And here we have the cult in all its glory. Your opinion is not worthy, the high priests of the climate cult will decide what's good for you…

                Are you that entrenched in your cult that you refuse to tolerate opinions that are not your own?

                they're compensated pretty well for the land

                If they compensated well why are there so many court cases about it?

                and wind farms only take up a tiny fraction of 1% of that area;

                Your house also takes up less than that. Are you happy if the government forces you out of your home because of its religion?
                The Jews made up less than 1% of Germany in the 1930's etc… same lame argument…

                Wake me up when your ideology involves you not needing government force to stomp on the faces of the people…

                • -1

                  @1st-Amendment: this coming from the guy that has a name "1st Amendment" which doesnt' exist in Australia. I think you might confused I am not talking about climate change I am not talking about energy I am simply pointing out the currenty system will never work because of so many road blocks and push back. It is a wasted tax payer money and needs to be opened for more discussion not implemented.

                  • @kungfuman:

                    am not talking about climate change I am not talking about energy

                    Also you:

                    why is energy such a rip off in NSW and VIC lol

                    So you literally asked a question about energy, which the cost of is directly driven by insane climate policy.

                    I am simply pointing out the currenty system will never work because of so many road blocks and push back

                    That's right, by insane policy decisions that puts ideology above the needs of the people and the economy.

                    It is a wasted tax payer money and needs to be opened for more discussion not implemented.

                    It seems like we agree. Energy policy should be driven by the cheapest reliable solutions available, not ideological garbage.

          • -1

            @klaw81:

            Can you point out a single instance where you could reasonably claim that an existing energy source on the grid was "gotten rid of"?

            Have you been asleep? Or just stuck in an echo chamber?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liddell_Power_Station
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazelwood_Power_Station
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Australia

            • @1st-Amendment:

              And here we have the cult in all its glory.

              that response was about the subject being changed. My question was about your claims, not entirely unrelated claims about farmer's land. It has zero relevance to either your statement or my response.

              If they compensated well why are there so many court cases about it?

              This is not uncommon during compulsory acquisitions. People, particularly rural people, are usually highly conservative and will resist any change. This is particularly true for renewable energy projects, since they've become so politicized.

              Your house also takes up less than that. Are you happy if the government forces you out of your home

              Comparing a home to a patch of farmland is a false equivalence, and you know it.

              Having said that, if the government decided they needed to acquire my little patch of land for some purpose, and were going to pay fair compensation for it, I'd happily leave and find somewhere else.

              The Jews made up less than 1% of Germany in the 1930's etc. Wake me up when your ideology involves you not needing government force to stomp on the faces of the people…

              Godwin's law strikes again. What a weak and pathetic response.

              Compulsory acquisitions are sometimes necessary. They've been part of our legal framework for decades. Some stuff has to be built in particular places, and that means previous uses need to be changed. This applies in cities just as much as in rural areas.

              Have you been asleep?

              Liddell and Hazelwood were both retired by their respective owners, having completed their expected ~40 years of service life. They closed on approximately the schedule that was predicted when they were first built. There was no pressure from governments to get rid of them - they were simply shut down when they were beyond economical repair.

              As for nuclear power, it has never been on the grid - so saying it's been "gotten rid of" is clearly false.

              Finally, we should address the elephant in the room. You have repeatedly referred to climate change as a religion or cult. It's actually the opposite - religion is based on faith and dogma. The global understanding of climate change is based on sound, reproducible, independently verifiable scientific principles and has overwhelming evidence to support it.

              I don't want to de-rail the discussion on this deal any further. My apologies to the original OP.

              • -1

                @klaw81:

                People, particularly rural people, are usually highly conservative and will resist any change

                Well screw their rights then, stomp on their faces with government force if they don't believe in our new religion…
                Seriously, this is your argument?

                and were going to pay fair compensation for it, I'd happily leave and find somewhere else.

                Who decides what is fair? The people doing the confiscating? Is there nothing in your brains that says, that's doesn't sound very fair by any definition of the word does it?

                Compulsory acquisitions are sometimes necessary.

                So we agree, they are not fair, they are forced against their will. That didn't take much to land at the correct response. Force is necessary to ensure the gods are satisfied said every religion ever…

                they were simply shut down when they were beyond economical repair.

                And the government ensured they could not operate economically by by introducing new regulations to force an outcome the gods desired. See how that works?

                As for nuclear power, it has never been on the grid - so saying it's been "gotten rid of" is clearly false.

                That supply option was removed by the new religion. Had we built new plants 30 years ago when we first identified the growing demand we would not be having this discussion right now. The issue is entirely self-inflicted.

                The global understanding of climate change is based on sound, reproducible, independently verifiable scientific principles and has overwhelming evidence to support it.

                Where?

                I mean I have a Science degree, and in the last 40 years of failed predictions I've never seen anything sound, or reproducible, or independently verifiable. Feel free to post some if you can, but I won't hold my breath though. The cult always run away when the asked for hard data to support their scam.

                This space here left for you to provide some actual science instead of juts the same old tired slogans:

                • +1

                  @1st-Amendment:

                  Well screw their rights then, stomp on their faces with government force…..Seriously, this is your argument?

                  No, that's a strawman you've created.

                  This is infrastructure of national importance. It absolutely cannot be held up by a few petulant farmers, in exactly the same way that new highways and tunnels require a few residents to move homes.

                  Precisely which rights are being violated? Please identify them, and make sure you're specific.

                  Who decides what is fair?

                  If you bothered to educate yourself on the topic, you'd know that there's a well established process.

                  The valuation is done independently of the government to avoid conflicts of interest. There's mandatory allowances for costs associated with disturbance, relocation and severance if they are applicable. There's also an appeal process with independent arbitration, if that's required.

                  The idea that the government is simply kicking people out on their ear is outright false.

                  So we agree, they are not fair, they are forced against their will.

                  I didn't say they weren't fair - again, a strawman.

                  Being forced to do something against their will is not necessarily unfair. The entire purpose of compensation is to make it fair.

                  And the government ensured they could not operate economically by by introducing new regulations to force an outcome

                  Can you identify which regulations have done this? Again, you need to be specific - a vague hand-waving about the vibe isn't going to work.

                  Federal and state governments have long-standing policy not to intervene in existing energy generation infrastructure - they have been permitted to operate unencumbered until the end of their service lives.

                  The fact that they're being priced out of the market by new technologies that are cheaper to build and require no feedstocks and little maintenance is the reason they're no longer economically viable.

                  That supply option was removed by the new religion.

                  This is just plain false.

                  Nuclear power was banned in Australia by John Howard's government nearly 30 years ago. Climate change wasn't a major political issue at the time. The objection at the time was almost entirely around environmental concerns relating to radiation, in the wake of nuclear mishaps around the world.

                  Despite the moratorium, nuclear power has been reviewed for viability many times since. It has never stacked up compared to other options, and despite substantial lobbying by certain politicians, no private investors have shown any interest in making any investment.

                  I mean I have a Science degree, and in the last 40 years of failed predictions I've never seen anything sound, or reproducible, or independently verifiable.

                  That's a pretty strong indication that you haven't been paying any attention at all, or that you're willfully blind to over six decades of peer-reviewed research and an overwhelming consensus of generations of climate scientists across many nations. The concept of greenhouse gas emissions causing global heating has been well understood since the 1950's.

                  I'm nowhere near an authority on this subject so I'm not going to attempt to lecture you, but there's an enormous body of evidence. Go and ask a climate scientist - there are plenty of sources available to you.

                  The idea that it's a mass delusion or a giant scam on a global scale is beyond ridiculous at this point, and anyone who lends credence to that theory belongs in the same category as moon landing deniers and flat earthers.

                  • -2

                    @klaw81:

                    No, that's a strawman you've created.

                    You literally argued that it's fair government confiscate land against the owners will… Don't use words if you don't know what they mean…

                    This is infrastructure of national importance.

                    And here is the cult logic on full display. It's the exact same logic used by all tyrants since the world began. 'fOr ThE gReAtEr GoOd'.
                    1984 wasn't supposed to be in instruction manual…

                    If you bothered to educate yourself on the topic, you'd know that there's a well established process.

                    Lol. I used to work for Dept of Transport who confiscated land on a daily basis. You clearly have no idea how that process works.
                    Simple test, if it's 'fair' why are there so many court cases involved? Surely if it's 'fair' every owner would be walking away happy?

                    Being forced to do something against their will is not necessarily unfair.

                    Oh dear… cult brain cannot break cult logic…

                    Can you identify which regulations have done this?

                    Lol are you that deep into the koolaid that you don't know what Net-zero is?

                    Let me do a really easy ChatGPT to help you out:
                    In Australia, coal power stations are not shut down by a single “ban coal” law, but rather by a suite of government regulations and policies that make coal increasingly unviable and set clear closure pathways. Here’s a breakdown:
                    - National Net Zero Commitment (2050): Australia has legislated a target of net zero emissions by 2050. Coal-fired generation is incompatible with this trajectory.
                    - Safeguard Mechanism (2023 reforms): Large emitters, including coal plants, must reduce emissions intensity over time or purchase offsets. This makes coal more expensive to operate.
                    - Renewable Energy Targets (RET): Federal and state schemes mandate increasing shares of renewable energy, reducing coal’s share of the grid.

                    You've also got the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act and Australia Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Act that prohibit the cleanest energy source available.

                    Get out of the echo chamber mate it's turning your brain into custard.

                    Nuclear power was banned in Australia by John Howard's government nearly 30 years ago.

                    So there no regulations preventing it but it's banned? Do you even read what you write?

                    but there's an enormous body of evidence.

                    So enormous that you couldn't find a single piece of it. Don't you find that peculiar?
                    Isn't there something in your brain that says, hang on a sec, why is there never any ACTUAL science ever presented despite 40 years of doom mongering? Lots and lots and lots of activists and media talking heads and celebrities and politicians, never any actual science. When I did my degree a proof consisted of an equation, not a marketing engagement. But most people don't actually understand what actual science is. They like the authority of chanting 'sCIeNcE' to virtue signal but are too lazy to do the rigour that actual science requires.

                    The idea that it's a mass delusion or a giant scam on a global scale is beyond ridiculous at this point,

                    Well I asked for evidence and you seem unable to present any. You exact argument is that it is reproducible yet you can't produce any. Doesn't that seem strange to you? Is there not some little bell ringing in your head that says, hang on, for something supposedly based on science, why is there never any actual science?
                    This is exactly how all religions work. Mass delusion, zero evidence.

                    and anyone who lends credence to that theory belongs in the same category as moon landing deniers and flat earthers.

                    The evidence says otherwise. In actual science you need evidence not just beliefs…

    • oh when i enquired about it a year ago ( different retailer) , they said cannot transfer the remaining credits i have into bank account but can only be used on bill.

      what did you say to them to get it btw?

  • +4

    Also concerning is:
    “ Pricing is variable - your base rate is adjusted (up or down) each bill based on your price efficiency adjustment (PEA). The more you can shift your energy usage to cheaper, greener times of day the better your energy price. See our website for more information.”

    I signed up to their app and the base rate for me is 32.94c
    I suppose though if I just export everything possible between 5:30 and 7:30 it’s still technically cheaper to draw from the grid if I run out of battery (rather than ensuring my battery isn’t depleted overnight)

    • +5

      I signed up to their app and the base rate for me is 32.94c

      More importantly for those with batteries, what was the daily supply charge?

      I hate the fact you need to download an app and create an account to find out this basic information such as pricing.

    • Does the app show how much it costs you to import at other times?
      I am with GloBird ZeroHero currently and make about $90/month credit.
      Looks like I can make more on Flow Power offer, but want to know roughly how much it costs to recharge the battery on a cloudy/rainy days.
      GloBird's free 3 hour during the day was perfect on cloudy days.

      • +4

        The connection fees look borderline predatory!
        Payment processing fee 0.66%

        Disconnection fee $118.16

        Reconnection fee $118.16
        Supply charge 134.19c per day

        1 Jul - 30 Jun
        ALL WEEK

        Peak time (3:00pm to 8:59pm)
        34.00c per kWh
        Off-peak time (9:00pm to 2:59pm)
        34.00c per kWh

        • +8

          Connection and disconnection fees are charged by the network (ausgrid/endeavour), and also don’t apply when you’re changing providers.

        • +2

          Wow that supply charge is robbery!

          • +2

            @edrift: Depends on where you are. I've seen a few north of $2 a day already in SA.

          • @edrift: Amber charges $25 a month managing or mismanaging your electricity on top of daily charges. This is great plan for people with 20kWh ( earn $9 ) extra a day who do not consume much from the grid usually large solar and large battery ( most new batteries are 40kWh+) .

            • @Memo14: Just installed a 13.8kw system with 40kwh battery. Am trying amber but the seems to be a better option. Not sure about the 5kw export cap though… I have a 15kw 3 phase inverter

      • I was planning to move to this Globird ZeroHero once our battery is done being certified. Now I’m wondering if the AGL offer is better?? It’s so hard to calculate!

      • How do you make $90 a month credit? I have 3 batteries and 10kwh solar and I’m only making $1 a day max from exports which only give you 15c per kWh between 6-8pm.

        • I export ~17-18kWh during the evening peak.
          Charge battery full during the 3 hour free period.
          Export excess after 2pm and before 10am.

          • @Covid19: I looked at the zero hero plan and it only pays 3c per kwh during 4-9pm…how are you earning $90/month?

            • +1

              @edrift: 10am - 11am : 0c
              11am - 2pm : 0c (free charging time)
              2pm - 4pm : 3c
              4pm - 9pm : 6c
              9pm - 10am : 3c
              Super Export(6pm-8pm for 1st 10kWh) : 9c additional
              No draw from grid between 6pm-8pm : $1 bonus
              Critical events : $1/kWh

    • Nowhere to find info on this sneaky PEA charge. could well just be demand charge in another name. watch out folks

  • +1

    Should be 4:30 to 6:30 in QLD

    • +6

      4:30 to 6:30, 2005

      1 hour and 20 years behind.

      • +1

        Never heard that one before!! Southern genius ;-)

      • Now that’s the real bargain, I’d pay to go back to 2005.

  • +1

    anyone did it for QLD? I just put in my postcode 4109 for pricing and get a "its a VIC only" error…

    • That is for a quote/estimate

    • You need to create an account via the mobile app and go through the sign up process to get the rates

  • +2

    I'm sorry, from 5:30pm - 7:30pm? In QLD it's practically sunset at 6.30pm.

    • +3

      That's the point, it's a no deal deal. More of a data mining exercise than any sort of real consumer positive deal.

      • +2

        Export rate at all other times is $0/kWh

        This is a terrible offer. Happy hour when there is practically no sun, and then no FIT rate for all other times.

        • Don't forget that's peak usage time too. Dinner, tvs, computers, heater/aircon all running from 5:30-7:30pm

        • +4

          This plan clearly only makes sense if you have a battery. If you don't you should ignore it.

      • +10

        Why would they offer you 45c FIT when everyone elses solar is exporting too much power and the AEMO price is so low? they want your exports from 5:30-7:30 so they don't have to buy it from the market at a high peak rate. And to get that power we will be exporting it from our batteries

      • I have a 42 kW battery you just dump 20 kWh =$9 to the grid during this time remaining 22kW is more than enough till next morning then charge from solar . If you don’t have excess energy and don’t have batteries this plan is no good.

    • +16

      I'm sorry, from 5:30pm - 7:30pm? In QLD it's practically sunset at 6.30pm.

      Yes, and that's the point. It's aimed at the period when most residential rooftop solar is tapering off to zero, but domestic electricity usage is rising - cooking, hot water etc all coincide with the sun going down.

      This plan is not intended for direct feed-in from solar panels. It's to incentivise people with batteries to discharge to the grid during peak loading times. Wholesale prices go through the roof once the sun goes down, and buying power from consumers at a fixed price of 45c/kWh is a good deal for the retailer.

      Say you have a 30kWh battery, and enough solar power to fill it each day. You run your whole house on solar during the day, and only need 20kWh of stored electricity to get through to the next morning when the solar kicks in again. You can sell the remaining 10kWh to the grid during those 2 hours, and get paid ~$5 for each day you do that. You could make $1500 each year, in addition to your own electricity being free.

      This plan might not work well for you, but for somebody with a decent sized battery and west-facing panels, it could work really nicely.

      • +2

        Good point, not just for solar.

    • +3

      This is for people with batteries not solar only

      • -5

        They will charge import for the rest of night for more revenue since battery went flat. Again this is a no deal deal.

        • +1

          why would your battery go flat? sounds like this deal is not for you.

          Depending on how the rates work you will likely be getting more FIT than the import price so you could probably charge at night and export in the window if you need.

          I have a 42kwh battery and will most people would only manage to export <50% of that in the 2 hour window leaving another 20kwh to use overnight which again most people won't be able to deplete.

          Just because this deal doesn't suit you doesn't mean it's not a deal for someone else. This is the best deal for my needs when comparing to Globird Zero Hero or AGL Battery Rewards.

          Please show me a better deal where I can make more money exporting from my battery without being locked into a VPP?
          With the time of year I will likely not have to draw from the grid at all, in winter I will obviously be moving off this plan to one like Globird Zero Hero or Ovo for self consumption

          • @Brick50: This plan is also 34c per KW for import.

            • @FrugalSquid: 32.94c "base rate" you don't know the exact price for this plan yet. Likely it will be lower because we aren't going to be drawing in the peak period most likely overnight.

              The base rate is lower than the FIT, personally I haven't drawn anything from grid since battery was installed except in free window because I could

              • @Brick50: Interesting. I’m tryna figure out aswell since I have a 42kw battery.

                Currently with globird and essentialy making $3-$4.5 a day atm and that 3 hour free energy is great to for my EV + battery charging which then allows me to run my AC all day which draws 8kwh

                • @FrugalSquid: https://imgur.com/a/LIjuOge
                  Check the 2 photos uploaded

                  I’ve signed up, in the app there is this price tracker. Very weird but do you think this is the actual rate charger per kWh?

                  If so this is an amazing deal since we would be charging overnight and instead of 33c per kWh might only be paying <7c

                  • @Brick50: That says 6pm 7.99c tho is the time wrong?

                    • @FrugalSquid: Nah I can't see yesterdays figures because I signed up today but imagine overnight is one of the lowest rates as well. Either way we can charge when rates are low if required and export at 35/45c unless i'm mistaken

                  • +1

                    @Brick50: I don't believe it is. This is the market rate without any distribution, transmission, metering and profit costs on it.

                    • @Alpine58: I agree, nowhere does it actually say what you get charged. I bet if you use power when it's 0c market rate for the whole month your "adjusted" rate will be from like 32c per kwh to 30c haha.

                • @FrugalSquid: I have 42kwh battery but HOW are you making $3-$4.50 a day?? You don’t pay a supply charge as the $1 zero hero covers it. Then the most you can export at 15c per kWh is 10 kWh so that’s $1.50. Max I can make a day is $1.50.

                  • @Jamesk811: $1 + $1.5 for 10 KW + excess solar getting fed back usually around $1-$2

                    • @FrugalSquid: Ah ok fair enough. As of January they are making massive changes to rates so pretty much all exporting except 6-8pm will be $0 per kWh. So if you have a decent solar system then Flow is better as you can make $9 a day. Then hopefully when government brings in the 3 free hours a day then they are forced to offer that to us as well

                      • @Jamesk811: Oh really? Then yeah makes more sense to switch over to flow
                        My only concern is my household chews through power + EV so the 3 hour free charging is a blessing. Probally consume 40-60kw during that period

                        • @FrugalSquid: I definitely need their Price Efficiency Adjustment explained better. Apparently if you charge during solar abundant hours eg midday, then you get a discount on the cost. If the discount is decent then it may still be worth it because the money you make exporting will outweigh the cost you use to charge etc

                          Does anyone know how the PEA works? What kind of discount are we talking about ??

    • Can’t let the curtains fade!

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