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Baccarat Stone 10 Piece Cast Aluminium Cookware Set $200 (Was $399) @ HouseOnline Amazon AU

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Was shopping for the 32cm sauté pan and spotted this whole set for $120 more.

Currently $1,699 on baccarat store, $399 on MyHouse

Includes:

• Milkpan: 16cm
• Saucepan with Lid: 20cm
• Casserole with Lid: 24cm
• Grill Pan: 28cm
• Frying Pan: 28cm
• Frying Pan: 20cm
• Saute Pan with Lid: 32cm
• Wok: 28cm
• Roaster: 32 x 20cm
• Roaster Lid/Dish: 32cm
• Egg Poacher: 20cm

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  • +10
    • +16

      When it's Baccarat and Home, it's always fake RRP with their $1699s.

  • What kind of stone is this stuff made from?

    • Nvm

    • +28

      Philosophers stone

      • +1

        That’s a lot of piss !

    • +6

      Not an expert but I believe it's essentially a marketing gimmick and still coated in a forever chemical similar to Teflon.

      IMO you are better off spending a little more and getting a smaller set of nonstick stainless steel cookware like Made In. Or for the same price a basic SS set from IKEA.

      • +3

        The Stainless Steel Sensuelle pan is fantastic for the price, their Carbon Steel Vardagens are even better bang for buck.

        Either would be a much better purchase and a fine introduction into how much better cooking and eating can be with the right tools.

        Avoid this - and all other nonstick stuff - like the plague…

        • +3

          People here will poison themselves to save $2

          • +1

            @mickeyjuiceman: Yeah, I get that. Most of us were young and poor at some stage, which is why I try to point out credible value alternatives.

            What I don’t get is people negging the facts that PTFE’s cannot handle high heat, cannot handle metal utensils, will have abysmally short lifespans before becoming landfill, will release micro-particles into your food once the non-stick coating inevitably wears and create countless carcinogens during their production. For these reasons, I’d never let my family near them even before considering how pointless non-stick saucepans are nor how much better food tastes in a frypan not limited to low-medium heat. The fact that they’re no good for you or your kids evidently isn’t enough for some people…

      • Or just get aluminium without the coating

      • the stone is to partially protect the softer non-stick coating, but it also makes the pan less non-stick, it’s the trade off. Same idea as terrazzo floor, the polished stone stops the cement binder from wearing away as people walk on it, with these pans the stone stops the non-stick wearing away. Non-stick are great for certain things, but not everything. I cook omelettes, pancakes, porridge in non-stick, but meat in stainless steel pan to get high temp for the sear.

  • +6

    LOL that RRP

    • +4

      Certainly not $1,700 worth of cookware quality.

      Brand: This is the in-house brand for House and Robins Kitchen, so you'll mainly see it sold online through Amazon at heavily discounted prices. It's the standard "Designed in Australia, Made in China" model.

      Longevity: Be sure to check ProductReview for the "Stone" range. The most common complaint is that the non-stick coating gives up after 12–24 months, so your mileage may vary.

      Personally, I'd invest more in one le creuset from their outlet. Honestly, one time investment for life. Had mine for 10 years and it looks brand new.

      To make the non-stick last, you'll need to baby them:

      Low to medium heat only High heat will destroy the coating fast.

      Hand wash only Even if it says "dishwasher safe," the harsh detergents will strip the surface over time.

      • +2

        Yeh, we are slowly accumulating the iD3 SS at half price, and keeping an eye out for that one off clearance on a Le Creuset casserole pot. If you're patient enough there are bargains.

        • Yes, The iD3 SS is a solid workhorse. It uses 'impact bonded' construction (i.e. a heavy aluminium plate welded to the bottom) rather than fully clad/multi-ply. Only cons is that the base can eventually separate if you mistreat them (e.g., rinsing a ripping hot pan under cold water). Also, since the aluminium stops at the base, you can get scorching around the edges if you're cooking thick sauces or risotto. We invested in a 'Made In' Skillet which i think is the best pan I've bought to date!

          https://www.amazon.com.au/Made-Cookware-Stainless-Constructi…

      • I have noticed that Baccarat is now being sold in Myer.

        Not endorsing the product but Myers used to sell quality but expensive products.

      • In my research on CHOICE magazine and other reviews: "stone finish" in non-stick seems to be the poorest lasting.
        Not worth the trouble. Sure, if you want non-stick, use it, but this one is of a very poor durability.

    • Means someone might have paid the rrp

      • +1

        I sincerely doubt it. It is just a very mean trick to get people to hand over their money for trash, on the basis of that massively bulls*** rrp.

        • Haha, I’m amazed people see that rrp and still buy them 80% off. It’s always been 90% off then. Haha

          • @unhuman: Yeah, it is a bit like the crap advertised mid-morning on TV.
            Particularly the 'shop on T.V.' type stuff, that you soon find, soon enough at an Aldi, or The Reject Shop, usually much cheaper.
            Also trying to be a bit more rational, over whether you need something or not: or have you just bought another useless crap thing, you don't need in your kitchen…

  • +6

    Better to buy cheapo ikea pans and turf it after 6 months once the non stick goes

    • -6

      I hate throwing things out, but honestly it seems like all cookware is disposable. Nothing lasts more than 12 months. Sigh.

      • +4

        Cast iron or carbon steel will last forever, just need a bit of maintenance to keep it seasoned. Stainless steel lasts too but things will stick.

      • +1

        Tri Ply/5-Ply Steel Cookware is also good

        Have had my cheap Tri ply base set going well for 4yrs now,
        Would prefer 5-ply all round set, but they're expensive af!

      • +2

        The only type of cookware that is disposable is nonstick junk like this… You have so many choices for cookware that will last generations

      • I’ve got a La Crueset 26cm skillet and a Staub 28cm Chistera Brassier.
        Both for about 6 years and still in perfect condition.
        Spend a bit more on a couple of quality pans, they will be all you will need and last forever.

  • A good deal for someone needing to fit out a kitchen on the cheap.

    That RRP of 1.7k is a laugh though. This stuff is crap-tier quality.

    • +1

      Airbnb set

  • +1

    Similar sets don’t have very good reviews https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/baccarat-stone-4-p…

    • Very telling and very consistent reviews. Thanks for the link…

  • +1

    Costco have a set which i think is 3 ply .. for a similar price on special atm…
    https://www.costco.com.au/c/Calphalon-Premier-Stainless-Stee…

    Id rather use 3 play SS … much better than coatings

    • 100%.
      This is a great entry level option for an all clad set. If I was starting out and didn't know any better you really can't go wrong.
      The glass lids will be the first thing to break and reason it'll need replacing. The riveted handles are unfortunately still the best choice despite being annoying when cooking and cleaning. I'd want to see it in store before buying to ensure it isn't too thin, the "heats up 20% faster than cuisine art" claims suggest the set is made of thinner layers.

      • Absolutely!

        I’m a carbon steel man myself, but that stainless steel set is an infinitely better deal than this one. Tramontina are arguably the bang for buck champs of stainless steel. Well spotted…

      • -1

        Yeah not terrible. The key things to consider are the disk base; that over time will separate from the pan, the sides of the pan are only stainless steel (compared to all clad) and the glass lid consideration. Again, not a bad set considering the budget but know it will fail. No complaints for the price, just know what you're buying. You'll get 10+ years from it if you look after the lids.

  • -3

    Teflon has multiple grades, buy a good teflon pan from a restaurant supply shop and its night and day compared to these and relatively affordable, $30-$50.

    Otherwise multi-ply stainless steel, that stuff survives the dishwasher pretty well, you will end up putting water in and making a pan sauce, will be easier to clean anyway :)

    • -1

      All Teflon (now banned in most countries) and other PTFE chemically coated pans are hot garbage.

      Aside from their ridiculously low non-stick lifespans, they cannot be used above low-medium heat without breaking down. If you must have one small low heat egg pan that you’ll only ever use plastic or wooden utensils on, fair enough. But you’d be infinitely better off in the long run learning how to cook on stainless or carbon steel. Some basics of heat and oil control will have you enjoying tastes you never thought possible with broiled low heat steaks and proteins.

      • +1

        That's what I'm talkin' about!
        https://youtu.be/hSE31W7QHto?si=uh6YW5OSvMJF48S2

      • +2

        Couldn't agree more. Metal utensils in a non stick pan, my ancestors would cry.

        Just saying if you really wanted a non-stick (PTFE) pan, buy a better more durable one as opposed to a set as per this deal.

        Stainless/Cast iron/carbon steel are not really as high maintenance/hard to cook with as some ppl make it out to be, worth the learning curve and some of it may outlive you as opposed to chucking out a non-stick regularly.

  • +2

    RRP: $1,699.99 😂

  • +2

    House has sales 365 days a year

    • +1

      Has about 6 closing down a year

    • How about JB?

  • It says suitable for all cooktops, but rather low temperature tolerance… :/
    - Suitable for use on all cooktops, including induction, and dishwasher and oven safe for your convenience (up to 180 degrees Celsius/356 degrees Fahrenheit)

  • +1

    Baccarat have increased in quality, but they're still relative rubbish. There's a reason why many shopping centre kitchen stores only sell Baccarat stuff.

    Baccarat is about as good quality as the cheap stuff you find on Amazon, but at 5 times the price. You're better off just buying a good quality brand online.

  • +1

    No. No. No. No. No.

    If you want to go through the small learning curve of learning to use proper cookware but don’t want to pony up for an exceptional buy once for life pan like the recently sold out Yahgan Black https://yahgan.com.au/, at least start transitioning to proper high heat cooking with a beginner pan like the IKEA Vardagen for the ridiculously low of $23 for 24cm or $$30 for the 28cm www.ikea.com/au/en/p/vardagen-frying-pan-carbon-steel-605813…

    It’s a basic carbon steel pan but will still last you for life, unlike the 1-2 years you’ll get out of this non-stick garbage, even if you’ll have a bit more maintenance and learning to do than you would with a nitrided carbon steel like the Yahgan. But they’re 100x better than PTFE non-stick and your taste buds and improved cooking skills will thanks you for life…

    • +1

      Spot on. Up vote even though I despise Ikea.

  • +5

    Mandatory, "Friends don't let friends buy Baccarat" comment.

  • +2

    Just learn to cook with SS…

  • +2

    its a teflon coated aluminium, it ensures that once you eat off sll of that teflon coating then you will begin consuming aluminium

  • +3

    Pfas

  • +1

    Horrendously bad for you, even if you do save a couple of dollars.

  • I was legit about to buy this as our baccarat set is worn out, any reccomendations since everyone is saying no to this? can be any price range

    edit: read the other responses ill get a stainless steel ty

    • Watch some videos about cooking with SS, otherwise you're gonna be very frustrated…

      • Why are you frustrated with stainless steel? What's the scenario?

  • coated in cancer causing teflon for 3m and dupont. i cant believe its still legal to sell this shit. stainless steel or nothing. i got some scanpan impact ss from kmart. bargin compared to this pish.

  • Damn thought it was just aluminium, but title doesn't mention the coating

    • -3

      Even at "just aluminium" that screams Alzheimer's.

  • BS RRP and quality dont reflect

  • you probably take more care on temp and use of metal tools on non-stick cookware and micro particles than the place that you get your take-away from, lots use non stick aluminium pans as easier to clean, aluminium conducts heat well, lighter to handle and they have worn away the non stick in most areas of the pans from using metal utensils like tongs. Don’t know anybody that asks their take-away, or eat in restaurant if the food was cooked in non-stick or aluminium pan or not. I’ve seen food cooked in some pans that have taken a real pounding.

    • Not sure about this.

      I've worked in and around commercials kitchens for much of my life and agree about the prevalence of alumnium pans but could count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I've seen a non-stick pan. 90% of the pans you'll see are stainless or aluminium, typically no-names sourced from kitchen supply places and beaten to within an inch of their lives. Many steaks are cooked on a carbon or stainless grill, hence the preference for light pans rather thermal beasts, since high heat searing isn't a priority in a lot of places. Carbon woks are similarly commonplace, but that's about as "non-stick" as it gets - most chefs wouldn't be caught dead using a Teflon or PTFE-treated non-stick pan…

  • -1

    Not only is it horrible non-stick carcinogenic coating, it's aluminium which could be linked to dementia.

    Just buy stainless steel or cast iron.

    Often these sets are a bit pointless because they include pans sizes you never use. Just buy the pans you need separately.

    Some really good budget ones I've found are Ikea and even certain Kmart ones (not the super cheap ones).

    For example: https://www.kmart.com.au/product/24cm-stainless-steel-casser…
    I have had this pot for 3-4 years and rate it highly - decent weight, made well.

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