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MSI MPG X870E Carbon Wi-Fi AM5 ATX AMD Motherboard $499 Delivered @ Senzu eBay
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Kazusa on 13/12/2025 - 20:24 ebay.com.au (2693 clicks)
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Probably, they're already super cheap in the US, if only deals like https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/1osn0jo/moth… shipped to Australia :(
With proxy services you can.
Yep this is only the beginning. I'm wondering how some of the smaller companies will survive till the bubble bursts. Mobo, cases, PSU's, fans/coolers etc are all going to absolutely plummet in sales since nobody will be building new PC's.
Nice. Good luck with that lol. Also it's not just ram. Storage has more than doubled over the past 2-3 months and GPU's will follow suit soon.
And it's going to get worse. The increases haven't stopped yet. It will not be feasible for the average person to build a pc.
@bert-lifts: Not sure, why you think I need luck? And why you and 14 others felt offended by different opinion.
The point I was trying to make is RAM price increase will not spell doom for PC building indistry - painful adjustment yes. but doom no. I gave you number of examples where people thought price increases were insane and destined to fail (cough… iPhone vs Nokia), and now we see that many people on this website see iPhone at $2000 price mark a bargain (when discounted by 5%).
I'll repeat again, people will whinge and the ones who need it will buy, and others will wait or new options will emerge (Chinese RAM, cheaper rest of the system….) or the PC setup will go $3000 mark - but there won't be destruction or seismic shift in companies going out of business - smaller companies today existed because they could offer cheaper prices than likes of HP, Dell, Lenovo etc… if prices go up across the board (including HP, Lenovo, Dell…) small custom PC builders will still be cheaper, the only difference will be to you and I and the end price we'll be forced to accept
It will become too prohibitive for all but the most diehard PC fans with deep pockets.
When RAM costs as much as a GPU, it will impact sales a lot. And it’s a domino effect for many other parts manufacturers.
@cnut: i'm not in the game because i overinvested in ram and ssds in the past year due to… AI
so I'm on a xeon server with 80Gb in it but like… how is 8Gb of BASIC ddr5 desktop ram at $150 (!!!) from MSY acceptable?
its not
people are just going to sit on older hardware until this blows over
how is a stick of ram more expensive than a decent motherboard?
PC parts are a luxury product, especially gaming or high end parts. Most people have to save up to buy them. Daddys rich boys arent the ones that manufacturers are worried about as they make up f* all of customers. You mentioned price hikes for essential food and what most people would call an essential part of life these days - a mobile. People spend money on essentials and things they use most times a day. Its the fact that every single thing is going up in price. Which means less money to spend for luxury items for most people as they can't afford to now. I dont know why you cant see this, its not rocket science to figure out.
Which means less money to spend for luxury items for most people as they can't afford to now.
Can you point out where did I disagree with that? I explicitly argued the doom and gloom statement that many PC building companies would fail, or that people would stop buying PCs… I don't know why you don't see this either, I'm not trying to turn it into a rocket science. It is as simple as price will be higher, if you need it you will buy it. People did not stop buying 2nd hand cars during Covid price hike - I paid 30% more than pre Covid on a car for my daughter - why, becasue I needed it. Did I like it - hell no!.
People spend money on essentials and things they use most times a day
I think you are now arguing in my favour :-) - this is the point; if they need something ("use most times a day" in your words) they will pay the premium (willingly or not). Most people could use $100-200 budget phone, but yet many of them opt out for $1000+ phones. If someone needs a new PC they will have to pay new price and cut on something else - keep in mind that PC were relatively cheap compared to premium mobile phones, or handheld gaming consoles (nintendo swtich, asus aly etc…).
Anyway… I won't be spending any more time on this. If you guys prefer to shake your fists at the clouds and complain how life is unfair and how RAM prices are end of civilization… go for it. I rest my case
@dr: You'd make a terrible debater! Your points arguing are the exact opposite of what you should be saying. Then you try to say that we are agreeing with you somehow. Yikes. Reading isn't that hard…. Blind delusion and stubborness that you cant be wrong is how you come across.
It is like saying nobody is buying eggs as they went up in price…
Gaming PCs: famous for being perishable and consumable, just like eggs.
@boozed: Also eggs: famous for gradually becoming obsolete over a period of years, just like gaming PCs.
If this mass price drop really does happen, then it makes you wonder how much profit is baked into these.
Is the seller GST registered?
If I have it correct they do
https://abr.business.gov.au/ABN/View?abn=75681663794
Main company is Trinity Alliance PTY LTD
Ebay listing allows pickup from Wetherill Park which corresponds to Senzu Technology business name listed here.
https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/RegistrySearch/faces/landi…
Guess would be this isn't Aus local stock but import from US or other country. Not sure how warranty issues would work out with MSI.
veryvgood price for a x870e
Maxsun has an mATX motherboard with 5 M.2 slots. I don’t understand why this ATX board, which is so much larger than mATX, also only comes with 5 M.2 slots. For such a high end motherboard, offering 8 M.2 slots shouldn’t be a problem at all, and there is clearly enough space. On that Maxsun mATX board, all 5 M.2 slots are on the front side.
Because there’s not enough pcie lanes? Without resorting to pcie 4x2 or a 5.0x8 for your main slot you’re not going to find enough lanes for 8 m.2’s, even on this board there’s pcie lane sharing
You’re right mate, I remember MSI already had boards like the MEG X570 that came with up to 6 M.2 slots, and that was quite a while ago. With today's high end chipsets and CPUs, it does feel a bit strange that newer boards still cannot offer similar or even higher M.2 counts.
From a user point of view, it really feels like this is more about design choices and cost control rather than pure technical limits. Lane sharing has always existed, but on flagship boards you would expect more flexibility, especially when storage demand keeps growing and GPUs do not always need the full bandwidth in real world use.
PCI lane limits inherent to am5 design to keep costs down.
Assuming you had the switch chip, bifurcation etc, the cost and people going 'why is it going slow?' means its not practical for 99% of the population.
There are many reasons threadripper exists, extra PCI lane goodness is one of those reasons.
Also the non-CPU PCIe lanes are all PCIe4.
The CPU to chipset is only PCIe4 x4 on am5.
This, combined with only 2 DRAM channels is why Threadripper exists. It's just a pity it is so expensive.
Couldn't you use the pcie slots?
Yes and no. Those slots while mechanically x16, electrically they are probably x4 / x8, and using them may disable the other nvme's.or sata or one of the other ports depending how the motherboard has been designed.
If you wanted to connect 8 or more NVMe drives, you could use a high-speed USB-C powered hub, place the NVMe drives in USB-C enclosures, and connect all the enclosures to the hub.
I don't see a reason it wouldn't work, as long as only one was being accessed at a time speeds might be decent (I'd estimate 2 gigs a sec with decent enclosures)….
because theres no market for that. if you wanted 8 m.2 people would just get pcie to m.2 cards
Honestly question. What are you doing that requires 8 m.2 slots?
(Also at current market rates I shudder to think of the cost of populating them, lol)Man you're going to be disapointed with the knowledge that this X870E carbon only has 4x M.2 Slots
You fundamentally don't understand how M.2 connectors work.
M.2 slots are connected by PCI-e lanes to either the CPU or the chipset. There is only so much bandwidth to share on both the CPU, and the chipset, and it's severely limited on consumer boards. To overcome this you need to go prosumer segment, which is TRX/Threadripper.
AM5 boards with 5 M.2 slots are already throttling the negotiated lanes. They're not running full spec.
So, there is actually a quite considerable 'problem'.
apparently nvidia truly does suck
its true
Do they sell senzu beans?
Was looking at boards not even 2 months ago, this was out of my price range at $879, massive drop!
What’s 1234 mean?
Description length filler?
Ah so tempted to get rid of my x870e taichi and go to this with all the talk of ASRock killing CPUs
On 9800x3d number 3 with my x870e Nova so definitely worth thinking about.
wow, If I was on #3 I'd get betting rid of the Nova. Still working fine on my first one…
Most definitely. PC is pretty much on blocks until I can get Scorptec/Asrock to cop to a replacement/ refund. Sadly there’s no direct fault to point to. Nova seems to be the main murderboard so hopefully your Taichi lasts forever! For me though, definitely done with Asrock.
Keep in mind that the previous version allowed PCIe 5.0 x8 bifurcation on both slots, while this one only has a PCIe 5.0 x4 slot that shares lanes with the top x16 slot, meaning you’re getting effectively 4 fewer lanes compared to the last model.
Who covers warranty for an ebay purchase on a motherboard should things go awry?
In the past I've had 2x MSI X570 motherboards die on me, requiring me sending them back to the store (PLE) for RMA/replacement.
Consider this coming with ebay warranty for a refund within 3 months if things go south.
I believe Paypal has 180 days for returns. If its after that then you are left dealing with the company themselves under warranty. If that fails then the manufacturer. MSI are not known for being the best. I've had issues with all kinds of PC parts with them, along with friends too. They also have a terrible return process! Won't touch anything from them these days
I mean this looks like a good price, but it's ok to link to ebay seller deals with 93 total ratings and no warranty?
Got burnt by AMD with 1700X and 3700X, hard to go back
I know a lot has changed since then but the trauma still exists
I'm curious, what was wrong with them?
My first AMD Ryzen was Zen 3 and I'm now on Zen 5 and they've been flawless.
The AMD CPUs destroyed his Intel equivalents. So hes still bitter lol
$599 now…
Supposesdly motherboard sales are down 50% from last year due to RAM increase as people can't afford to build a PC. We may see further discounts on motherboards as manufacturers struggle to sell them.