[VIC] Polestar 2 EV MY2026 from $55,664, Polestar 4 Pre-Configured from $76,220 Drive-Away @ Polestar

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Savings of up to around $13,000 can be had on the Polestar 2, with the most affordable version of the electric vehicle (EV) coming down from $68,560 drive-away in Victoria to $55,664.

This makes the Polestar 2 Standard Range Single Motor more affordable than a Tesla Model 3 Single Motor (from $54,900 before on-road costs), as well as the MG IM5 ($60,990 drive-away).

The larger Polestar 4 also has a discount, but only applicable to “preconfigured” vehicles with estimated delivery times of late January, 2026.

The Polestar 2 Long Range Single Motor has a saving of $12,896 with pricing coming down from $72,728 to $59,832 in Victoria.

The driveaway price offer applies to all Polestar 2 model year 2026 vehicles, including pre-configured and built-to-order cars, ordered between 19 December 2025 and 31 March 2026, and delivered by 30 April 2026, or within one month of arrival for built-to-order vehicles.

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  • +40

    Pick up a slightly used one for 30k or less from pickles auctions

    • Anything wrong with the car? Any idea how that car ended up at Pickles?

      • +3

        Didn't mean James Bond's specs. 😅

      • +9

        End of lease, early lease terminations, dealer couldn’t sell old demo stock.

        • +7

          Hertz/Thrifty also had a bunch of Polestar 2s, so could be them starting to sell them off.

      • +7

        Ex Uber “Splend” vehicles — run.

        • +1

          Half them are still in the road, locked into their 120k km 4 year contracts

          • +1

            @Wiadro: What are these?

          • @Wiadro: and the repossessed ones from drivers that gave up and are only in some two bit “subscription model” like Netflix

      • +1

        Anything wrong with the car?

        No idea. Every vehicle is different so do your own research

        Any idea how that car ended up at Pickles?

        The main reason is that the owner needs money now so just needs it gone. This is usually due to end of lease or a break lease, or maybe just a divorces or someone leaving the country. There's plenty of reasons.

        I bought a few vehicles at auction. eg a near new HiAce van still under warranty, used it for a year and sold it privately for more than I paid. But every vehicle is different…

      • I would say some would be rentals… Depends how you feel about those.

      • +9

        Lots of end of lease. Ppl were taking advantage of the government incentive waving fringe benefits tax on novated lease electric vehicles including all associated expenses including charging. From what I was told it was optimal to have a very short lease and if you leased a very cheap electric, it would virtually cost you nothing at the end of 12 months after claiming everything. So now there's a lot of vehicles coming on to the market. And since the government benefit has been removed, the incentive to buy a new electric car on novated lease has tanked. So dealers are stuck with heaps of new stock too.

        • A properly thorough answer, thanks!

        • When was the government benefit removed for a BEV? Pretty sure still active, but likely will be cut mid 2026

        • +3

          And since the government benefit has been removed, the incentive to buy a new electric car on novated lease has tanked.

          Government benefit has not been removed, FBT exemption for EV's on novated leases has not changed at all. There will be a review of the policy in 2027.

          • @Dogsrule: Ops my bad. I thought everything had changed. Only "The exemption for new PHEV leases ended on March 31, 2025. Existing, unaltered leases entered into before this date remain exempt until the lease term ends". Stop one would expect sooner good sales on phev. I'm guessing then, in the car if ev, with people changing their cars every 12 months to 2 years then the market is just flooded with ex lease cars

          • +1

            @Dogsrule: FYI the government review into FBT exemption for BEVs has already started.

            https://minister.dcceew.gov.au/bowen/media-releases/joint-me…

            • @ZIngerBurgR: Interesting, thanks for the link. Reading between the lines of that press release, seems like they want to get rid of the FBT exemption.

    • +4

      I'm always terrified of these auctions. And so much competition too.
      A great idea though! Something to consider for the future for sure.

      • +5

        There is no need to be scared of them as long as you do your research, the vehicles are available for inspection. Do your research and you can save a bundle.

      • During NSW COVID lockdowns I bought an ex lease Camry Hybrid online from Pickles. First I saw it was when the car carrier dropped it at my home. Was a good car and never gave me trouble. Sold it for a profit a year and a half later.

      • Keep looking, keep bidding low knowing that in 99% cases you'll lose. And then you'll find the one great bargain you've been looking for. It's all about time, knowing what you want (e.g. I want a 2020-onwards Toyota Camry hybrid, and it must be a top-spec SL), and do a bit of research.

        But first go to one of those auction yards beforehand and sit in a couple cars, and if possible test drive them without a pushy sales-rep (some auction yards have a test area). Chances are you'll start to like whichever model of car you saw and sat in on the lot.

    • +6

      Dont even need to go to the auctions for that price. Dealers have them on the lot for about $32k drive away.

      • Around how many ks?

        • 30,000 and under

          • +8

            @1st-Amendment: Which is an obvious reason to ask how many kms.

          • +3

            @1st-Amendment: "doesn't matter"

            "Except for this key component"

            • -3

              @coffeeinmyveins:

              "Except for this key component"

              That is also long lasting and easily replaceable…
              If a battery lasts 300000km then that is relatively short compared to 1 million km. But it's still much longer than 99.9% people need it for.
              So for 99.9% of people this will not be a problem.

              • @1st-Amendment: 99.9% of people won't have a problem with a car that will have a dead battery in 300,000 km (i.e. basically a worthless vehicle)? Are you from another planet or something?

                • +1

                  @npnp:

                  99.9% of people won't have a problem with a car that will have a dead battery in 300,000 km

                  Nowhere did I make this claim.

                  Are you from another planet or something?

                  I'm not from the planet Strawman, that's for sure…

                • +4

                  @npnp:

                  99.9% of people won't have a problem with a car that will have a dead battery in 300,000 km (i.e. basically a worthless vehicle)?

                  I'm not sure what you mean by this, but you do realise most ICE vehicles are also worthless by 300,000km ?

                  There are very few vehicles around that still have a long life left at 300K !

          • +1

            @1st-Amendment: For those saying 'EV motors without mechanical parts will last a million km no problem', don't forget European ICE cars (Merc, BMW & Volvo) are plagued with electronic/ electrical issues (many of those components failing within the first 5 years). So tell me, what's the guarantee you have that the EVs from the same car makers will last a million kms? I agree non-mechanical components generally last longer, but that depends on the 'reliability reputation' of the car maker as well. If it's an EV from Toyota for example, yes, certainly.

            • +4

              @npnp:

              Don't forget European ICE cars (Merc, BMW & Volvo) are plagued with electronic/ electrical issues

              You are confusing two different things.
              A brushless electric motor is a very simple device, very well understood from a engineering point of view and been in regular use for over half a century.
              'Electronics' are completely different as they are very complex, fragile, and intricate devices, that rely on very modern, complex and often not very thorough tested software.

              what's the guarantee you have that the EVs from the same car makers will last a million kms?

              None. The motor will last no problem, the thing that will kill almost of of them is bad software, and that is why I wouldn't trust anything Chinese designed. They value shiny new features over reliability, which looks good in the showroom, but never works out well long term. If you know anyone who works in software, just ask them how difficult maintaining 10 year old+ code is. There's almost no-one doing it because it's so expensive to do due to the complexity.

              • @1st-Amendment: You've got a point. The more we move towards software-heavy vehicles, the quicker they become outdated. So it's rather 'being outdated' than 'actual failure of components'. I remember getting a recall from Toyota to update 'car computer software algorithm' for my 10-year-old Prius. Fingers crossed for that sort of good old Japanese support culture to continue because I can't imagine changing cars that often (having to buy new cars every 5 years due to outdated software, especially if their current price hikes continue).

                • @npnp:

                  Fingers crossed for that sort of good old Japanese support culture to continue

                  This is why Toyota will stay on top. The Japanese culture of reliability and constant improvement is tested and proven, whereas the Chinese culture is to do things as cheaply as possible and put tacky bells and whistles over reliability.

                  Not all cultures are equal. This is a myth that somehow seeped into 21st century Western thinking but it will hopefully wake up from soon before its too late.

                  • +5

                    @1st-Amendment: Not all cultures are equal, nor do they remain the same. Japanese cars (and pretty much everything made there) were notoriously unreliable early 20th century. England was notoriously dirty, with people using the River Thames literally as their toilet in the mid-19th century. Now, rather poor country Mali in Africa, was once home to the most educated and wealthiest upper-middle-class culture in the 14th century. So yeah, things do change over time. If you think Cultures are 'inherited' and 'constant', that's a pretty 'xenophobic' view of a rather complex affair. All I know is, things change, and hopefully, China could become (or even better) Japan in the quality culture aspect, you never know.

        • +2

          Example on car sales a couple of weeks ago

          2022 Polestar 2 Long range Single motor Auto MY22

          $29,900*
          Odometer Odometer Body Type Body
          37,000km Hatch

          Transmission Transmission Location WA
          Automatic Dealer: Used

      • +1

        Link us a few examples so we can buy them

        • +1

          Go to CarSales, setup a search for Polestar < 30K, wait for the email to arrive, buy the car 🤷

          • @Nom: This is how I buy all my cars and bikes.

            • @Brick Tamland: If you actually want a specific make and model, then there really isn't any other way.

              • @Nom: Oh I mean more specifically for a particular model to hit a good price. Because anything with a good price sells quick so you need that alert.

    • Wow really?! That’s insane value.

      • +1

        Well if you check out the used car market EVs have been depreciating at about the same rate as luxury euros. People are more willing to trust a used Toyota over a used Tesla.

        • The problem with Tesla's and others is not so much Trust, it is the rapidly declining RRP. My mate bought his Tesla 2 years ago, he went to sell it and found he would be left with a 10k debt after the sale price. People are factoring in continued price drops now after the last 2 years of constant price drops. So effectively many EV's have both depreciation AND RRP drops against them on the second hand market.

          • +1

            @gromit: Don't buy a brand new car if you're going to sell it in 2 years, that's a colossal waste of money even without the RRP drops.

            You're just paying the depreciation bill for the next guy who buys the 2 year old car from you!!

            • @Nom: I agree, he just really disliked the Tesla and wanted to switch to BYD. Apparently a few episodes of the phantom braking issue left his family feeling unsafe in a Tesla on the highway.

      • +1

        Saw this today on reddit (US $$$ I presume):

        Polestar 2 here. Oh god. MSRP was around $58K and now it’s worth $22K. I got it in February 2024 so it hasn’t even been 2 years and it’s value is less than half
        ….
        Buy it used. 2024 or 2025 only. 2021-2023 the CPU is severely underpowered. On r/Polestar I always see people complaining about shit I haven’t experienced bc my car has more computing power

  • +20

    Keep in mind that you then need to buy the add-on 'packs' for all of your bog-standard features that come in the base model of every other Chinese EV.
    They're great cars with some pretty shit software but their pricing strategies are off the mark. Even with this reduction I'd still be looking at the second-hand market instead.

    • At least adaptive cruise control is finally standard. Don't need add-on for this.

  • +12

    Polestar. its a risk.
    - its burning through its capital and may not be able to secure more
    + its backed by a biggy, Geely

    • +14

      Geely may dissolve the brand once they have a bigger brand foothold in Australia.
      Around me, there’s two dealerships that are being converted to Geely

      • +8

        Agree, I wont understand why Geely would keep Volvo, Zeekr and Polestar in your stables

        Volvo has the heritage.
        Zeekr is the young, youthful luxury upstart.
        Polestar has the ……

        • Volvo will prob stay even if losing money

          I think polestar and zeekr will just become “Geely Polestar” and “Geely Zeekr”
          Where Geely is the brand and the others are just a model

          • +2

            @Wiadro: That won't happen

          • +6

            @Wiadro: No one knows what a Geely is, let alone a zeekr… and vice versa.

            People do know Volvo.

            • +6

              @smartProverble: When they put all 3 brands under one roof, people will know.
              Go see a Volvo, walk out with a zeekr.

            • +1

              @smartProverble: Brand names come and go. For Millennials & Gen Z, I think Geely makes more sense than Volvo. Perhaps for an old folk Volvo can give some nostalgic vibe. LOL. Geely has been around for almost 40 years, if you haven't heard, that's your problem.

              • +1

                @npnp:

                For Millennials & Gen Z, I think Geely makes more sense than Volvo…

                Maybe in your Chinese bubble? Also we see heaps of CHinese people in Volvos in Sydney, but not 'zeekr' or geely.

                Geely has been around for almost 40 years

                So what? No one outside of China, and maybe SE Asia, know what the heck that is.

                Ever heard of "Mixue Ice Cream"? Also a Chinese thing, bigger than McDonalds, yet no one outside of the Chinese bubble have ever heard of it.

                • +3

                  @smartProverble: To be perfectly honest, I didn't know of Geely until recent times; however, rather than purely putting that on 'Chinese bubble', I actually blamed myself for 'not knowing it'. China is massive, and you could only appreciate the diversity and strength it offers if you get to know it. What's our excuse for not knowing a car brand in a country with 1.4 billion people, while well knowing a car brand from a country with mere 10 million people (Sweden). The same goes with some of the car brands in India (such as Tata, which now also owns Jaguar and Landrover), if you don't know it, that's actually your problem, not Tata's or India's. Being ignorant is not something we should be proud of. No, I have never heard of mixed ice cream (I've been to China but never tried it), that's my bad, will definitely try it next time. Thanks.

                  • @npnp: Point is, it is an unfamiliar brand to most people outside of the Chinese bubble. It's a brand from a different 'world', and just because it's being used in a country of 1.4 billion people, does not mean that we should know about it. Do you know what happens in India? Or Indonesia? Russia? If not, why not. Because it's irrelevant. Call it ignorance if you prefer.

                    anyways I think we are going off topic. My main point - it is an unfamiliar brand. Your point - it is used in China, so should be known. My counter point - it doesn't matter what happens in China, they have a closed off market and do their own thing. I don't need to know what happens in their closed off world.

                    Volvo is a global car maker and have been around for ages, GLOBALLY. That's the difference between Chinese and other brands.

                    No, I have never heard of mixed ice cream (I've been to China but never tried it), that's my bad, will definitely try it next time. Thanks.

                    It's Mixue ice cream. Anyways, no need to apologise for this, it's irrelevant in the west or anywhere outside of China. Though I have seen it here in Burwood. I'm sure it's good, after all, it's bigger than McDonalds (though mostly in China), enjoy.

          • +1

            @Wiadro: the problem is if you have polestar and Zeekr under the one name you no longer have a reason for polestar to even exist. Polestar is more expensive, less features and less performance.

        • +1

          Zeekr is the young, youthful luxury upstart

          Luxury. Lol

        • Polestar was the sport badge for Volvo, it's there to attract young, 'performance-orientated' owners, who also likes new tech like EVs. That's why it arrived in EV form in Australia instead of having it as a Volvo. However many Scandinavians (esp. Norway) have since converted to EVs, so Polestar is now less special.

          The Polestar brand is not very developed in Australia, and so easily got lost in the Chinese brand deluge. I'll think Polestar will fold back into Volvo and its dealerships, after all Volvo will always need a sports badge.

          Polestar however has value in the US, where Geely cannot venture. Some Geely cars manufactured outside China might be rebadged as Polestar for the American market.

        • Polestar also has the heritage, albeit not an EV heritage.

      • +6

        my friend is fin-analyst specialised in automobile industry, he says currently there is a huge blood-bath - battle for survial in CN's car market. Most cos/brands will be no more in next few years…

        • +7

          Don't need to be an expert to see it. We're in the hype stage of the cycle, lots of new brands all trying to get foothold in a new market. They won't all survive, that is obvious.

          • @1st-Amendment: So far MG/BYD/Tesla seem to be relatively well established.

          • @1st-Amendment: I quote: Expanding overseas is the last-ditch effort to stay alive as it is an over-saturated mkt (due to media including social media push and gov incentives for the past decade) in its home-country. Most parent/holding cos will be no more, let alone the oversea branch. Same thing happened in US car industry in last century as 200 or so cos/brands down to 3.
            Maybe I wasn’t clear, OR maybe there is something else. If you are interested in the matter, have a look at their fin-report, and do you research.
            I personally respect their efforts and entrepreneurship, but I am consumer not a stakeholder.

        • -5

          They are all backed by the CCP as part of the 100 year plan for Chinese dominance. This is the category buster phase where they dump stock and put legacy/local manufacturers out of business. Once we become dependent on them in the next few years we'll find out the real plan and true motivations of the CCP. I wouldn't be surprised if many of these vehicles have remote kill switches, just like the solar inverters for example. At the beginning of a war the ability to remotely deactivate ~30% of our home and vehicles is a powerful ace to have up your sleeve.

          • +1

            @goingDHfast: Haha, are we posting rhetoric from the early 2000s like we did about Chinese TVs and computing devices?

            Oh wait he's serious.

            Hate to break it to you but the part where you say "in the next few years" rings about as doomsayer as the blokes waiting for the housing market to crash since 2010.

            • @Synticulous: Not here to argue but DYOR mate. Here's some actual evidence from 2025:

              https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/05/15/chinese-kill…

              • +4

                @goingDHfast: Here's a non-paywalled article from Reuters.

                https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/ghost-…

                I recognised the telegraph editor as the bloke who only writes anti-renewable pieces.

                Will note that I believe you've supported your initial claim over residential home appliances, cars and inverters.. with an issue affecting strategic infrastructure with complex supply chains (with what appears to be little insight into who or where supplies what to whom in either article).

                Concerning for lots of reasons, hopefully nobody in critical infrastructure here is that happy to take a bribe or incompetent.

              • +4

                @goingDHfast: The telegraph is not research or evidence. It's barely a newspaper.

            • +1

              @Synticulous:

              but the part where you say "in the next few years" rings about as doomsayer

              That explains why China is doing live fire exercises in Taiwan water right now and the US Pacific Fleet is moving ships to Australia and South East Asia

              Everyone knows this is coming. It might not be this year or next, but it will happen eventually one way or another.

              If you feel like this is just Anti-China rhetoric then it may comfort you to know that the US are doing the same thing with JSF. It makes perfect sense for a superpower to wield some level of control over any potential future enemy's capability as a national security protection measure. China and the US both do it, it would be naive some such a power not to do it.

              Or do you honestly think there will never ever be any more wars ever again?

              • @1st-Amendment: Hi mate, I'm not so naive as to say no wars, geopolitics or national strategic interest applies to our reality down-under.

                We've kept trade and national progress running quietly alongside realpolitik, through the middle-east, arab springs, and current battlegrounds manifested everywhere all at once.

                The nuclear subs? A lot of noise but I agree on the balance of the ideas behind it - but wish they kept the lid on it instead of parading it for years in the media and outright pissing off trade partners.

                Greater political influence and stability in the Asia Pacific (backed by trade, integrity and clear boundaries) will be what allows us to continue our internet debates, and hopefully let's us keep up technologically (our pollies are good at exchanging funny international performances for tangible benefits - refer to subs, international events, kissing trumps ass for a bit, China gets face we get stuff, etc).

                The open focus on electric cars and kill switches and imminent ground invasion opens the potential for jumping headfirst into self fulfilling prophecy and collateral internal tribalism no?

                • @Synticulous:

                  The open focus on electric cars and kill switches and imminent ground invasion opens the potential for jumping headfirst into self fulfilling prophecy and collateral internal tribalism no?

                  I believe the threat is very real and as many people as possible should be aware of that risk. I've had some working experience with Cybersec and ASD so I'm not just reading this off Tiktok.
                  The idea of installing back-doors into every possible device and mass data collection for future control measures is already happening, so it's not a big leap to work out who and how that can be used. And as I said this is not just China, the US are doing it too - look at the Snowden leaks, we know this stuff is already happening.
                  The big difference is that the US have some semblance of separation of powers, so while government abuse still happens, there is some level of restraint. No such restraint exists in China so they can do whatever they want, and they are doing exactly that.

                  The problem with war is that by the time it arrives, it's too late to do anything about it. And I'm not talking about small remote wars in places you've never been. If it comes here, and I'm saying 'IF', then you're going to wish you didn't just sleepwalk into it armed only with good intentions.

            • +4

              @Synticulous: They actually have kills switches.

              I have a Geely EX5 with Android 11 with adb access. I reverse engineered their code and found that they can send an API call with basically "rm -rf" or any command to fully wipe the car head unit. They can even force reflash it even when remote debugging and diagnostic has been switched off in the UI.

              • +1

                @beesider: It's a bit of a claim but I can believe it, we've seen this before with the big bad musk-mobiles.

                So you were looking to sideload things on your car, dunno if android 11 is the correct OS version but I'm not an expert beyond flashing my own devices and messing with Unix systems and GPU drivers so I'll take your word for it.

                No existence of an OS loaded in physical memory? It just nukes the entire directory with su?

                It's the reverse engineering bit that breaks suspension of disbelief. Could you provide a git link with it? Nobody on whirlpool seems to have done this.

                • @Synticulous: Yeah, I was looking to sideload apps but then ended up going beyond that. I pulled the whole filesystem and then started decompiling their built-in Android apks and feeding the code to AI. Their software always talks to their API regardless of the settings on the head unit (on/off).

                  While investigating, I thought to myself "someone must've already done this before". And it turned out, I wasn't wrong. I ended up finding communities on Telegram with people who are into modding their car software.

                  On one of Telegram channels I found people who managed to find a way to do an MITM attack on the Geely API which lets them gain full access to the vehicle. They sell that access for $.

                  So it's worse than that.

                  Mind you, it's not hackers who buy that access but ordinary people who want to re-enable app sideloading which Geely disabled.

              • @beesider: @beesider this applies to every modern connected car.

                found that they can send an API call with basically "rm -rf" or any command to fully wipe the car head unit. They can even force reflash

                This has nothing to do with Geely.
                Do you think Tesla have the ability to push software updates, but that they can't brick the cars ?

                If the manufacturer can send code to your car, they can do anything they like.

          • @goingDHfast:

            I wouldn't be surprised if many of these vehicles have remote kill switches

            The only actual example of that was Porsches in Russia. Porsche built it into the ECU as an antitheft measure. Your expensive Porsche has been nicked, we'll disable it for you, by satellite link. Then someone figured out how to use it to disable all the Porsches of certain models within Russia's borders. It was designed to be hard for anyone to get around, except Porsche itself. But with sanctions meaning there are no Porsche dealers in Russia to take your Porsche to it is very difficult to get your car back on the road.

            That's as worrying a scenario as China using remote anti-theft or firmware upgrading to disable all the Chinese-made cars in hostile foreign countries if there's a war. It is someone else figuring out how to do it to damage China and punish people who've bought Chinese stuff.

            The obvious candidate for the Porsches in Russia is Ukraine. But Porsches are built in Germany, and the Germans are on Ukraine's side, and the German police would have been given the power to do it so the German intelligence agencies would know too. If you've got a weapon, why wouldn't you use it? Why shouldn't you use it? They are just cars. And rich peoples' toys at that.

            • @GordonD:

              The obvious candidate for the Porsches in Russia is Ukraine.

              No, the more obvious candidate for German Porsche's getting into Russia is via China and various loopholes with Porsche dealers in China selling the cars to the CN dealers for Zero KM used deals to take credits from the government in china, and avoid new car export tariffs when bringing the car to the border in Russia. Used cars count as private sale - so they don't have the same warranty / parts situation - except when the "owner" brings the car back to get repairs in China on the Russian/Chinese car.

              There's already an EV and luxury car pipeline into Russia from the border - where dealers and agents flip "used" cars with a language pack and title changes to print the manuals and ECU screens in Cyrillic / Russian, or Romanian/German/English for the buyer who will then reprint a Russian version to disguise the country of origin.

    • They all lose money for Geely, ultimately its just giant tax write-off for em as platforms are shared.
      Likely on books Polestar just wears the brunt of it all on paper while other brands go up in value.

  • +12

    Not bad at $55k but the depreciation is worse than a BYD and Tesla. A 2022 Polestar 2 can be got at a Dealer for $32k so private/trade would be approx $25k. Brand new they were $64k. So 30% P/A depreciation. $13k loss per year or $1.30 per KM if doing 10,000km a year or about the same as running a petrol car - cost of petrol.

    This will be even worse if the brand withdraws from Aus

    • -1

      Depreciation =/= decline in value.

      • +4

        Pedantic.

      • If anything depreciation mean an increase in value (for the buyer) since you are effectively getting the same product for much less cost.
        Of course for the seller it is the exact opposite. If you like bargains, don't be that guy.

        • +2

          Yeah. They are a great buy used. You can get polestar 2 cheaper or same price as a used atto3.

    • Try high $30's for a MY24 LRDM base model. 22 model in single motor is still fwd and a lot less efficient than the newer models that went to RWD for single motors.
      22 model should be well into the mid 20's if i was buying.

      • 2024 doest have the age or KM to be good used buy yet.

  • +11

    Main issue with the 2 is that rear seat head space is horrendous. If you're over 180cm tall, you will not have a good time

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