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You are Xi's favourite. ;)
My main man he is
thank you uncle Xi
Thank you Chairman Xi for feeding my people and for creating a buffer zone between the evil USA and your glorious country China.
our home is girt by Xi
Our land abounds in Chinese gifts.
M… looks like you and I are a goner soon, PRC will disappear us.
I would like to employ you as chief lyricist..Got to be a series in it….
Lolz you're very safe in Trump's hands.
I hate Trump. I hate dictators and wanna be ones.
What part of my comment implied I like Trump?
This implied that there could be a safety concern with Chinese vehicles, like any other type of vehicle on the road.
I have safety concerns with cheap bargain basement cars. Not based on where they’re manufactured.
The rest of your comment is disgusting, wrong and I won’t be responding to it.
Btw, Trump just this week again stated he has a great relationship with Xi. Take from that what you will about the two men.
Most of your info is already in the hands of US brands.
Specilly,
Whatsapp, Fb, insta, snapchat, youtube and Google and Chatgpt. Read their terms and condition that they can use your information for future improvements in their technology to provide you better things.
That is why, they show you those kind of ads in your feed.https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/us-congress-threaten…
US is no better. Trump has managed to take rule of law for a ride like no other US presidents.
@SetTheFaqUp: Do you genuinely believe the united states is "no better" than China or have you just been sucked into the mainstream media BS that hard that you have 3rd degree brain rot?
@Binchicken22: PRC has its own merits. So is the US.
Things have deteriorated drastically since the second Trump administration. The article reference is a direct inference of the US congress on Australia's domestic affairs. Personally, I am definitely not please with the action itself (reflective of the government).
I don't think either is better or worse, but what suits.
"you have 3rd degree brain rot?"
You seem to be a bit too sensitive on the matter and take a more extreme view on the matter.
@SetTheFaqUp: Just look at how the CCP "dissappears" dissenters or treats ethnic minorities. There is gigantic trove of shocking things China has done and continues to do that people hypocritically ignore. This is not about morale equivalence, the US has a all manner of terrible acts under its belt, but think China is the same or better is quite astounding.
@Xizor: "how the CCP "dissappears" dissenters or treats ethnic minorities"
Unfortunately, this happens all the time. Australia is equally bad at ethnic cleansing of the natives. America has done the same.
One thing for certain is that the PRC has done something right for the country to thrive for last few decades.
Anyway. This topic can be a very lengthy academic debate than uneducated throw away comments from keyboard warriors (myself included) on a forum.
People gets too worked up when there is a deal from a Chinese brand, in which most are too insignificant for the PRC to waste their effort on.
Imagine telling Bob down the street on a 150k/annual income household, renting and with a new born, he wouldnt care if the car is made in Mars if it fits into his budget.
Unfortunately, this happens all the time. Australia is equally bad at ethnic cleansing of the natives. America has done the same.
Stop watching the ABC mate, it's rotting your brain. That never happened and just shows how easily you are manipulated.
The article reference is a direct inference of the US congress on Australia's domestic affairs.
If you actually read the article it's the other way around. Australia's poorly thought-out law is a breach of US laws affecting US citizens, and the US have a valid legal claim to contest it.
Do you genuinely believe the united states is "no better" than China
China is better if your metric is who has started more wars and killed more people in war in the last 50, 100, 200, or 300 years.
If your metric is "ideology!" then who cares.
US is no better.
Did you even read the article?
Our eSaftey Karen is a US citizen (how TF does a US citizen have a senior position in our government is the real story here), so as a US citizen she is legally required to answer to her own government.
"New documents indicate that eSafety harassed American companies"
The role for a government is to protect the rights of its citizens. That is exactly what the US government is doing here.
Only left wing media could spin this into yet another Orange Man Bad story.Trump has managed to take rule of law for a ride
Which law specifically do you think is "being taken for a ride"?
The 1st Amendment is literally the very first law in the US Bill of Rights and it is being defended here.
"the US Supreme Court has recognised that Congress has the power to compel US citizens living abroad to testify,"
So what is happening here is that the actual law is being enforced.
The way you swallowed the media spin on this is embarrassing.
@1st-Amendment: "The role for a government is to protect the rights of its citizens." Yah right, in Switzerland or Norway maybe.
In the US it's more like "protect the rights of specific groups of citizens." Dont you see they still allow guns? Don't you see their involvement in Vietnam, Iraq and Libya? Are all these things for the benefits of US citizens in general?
How naive 🤣Dont you see they still allow guns?
You mean they uphold the 2nd Amendment of Constitution which is their job?
How naive
You're the one that doesn't know how the law works. Too much media propaganda probably.
Stop swallowing media garbage, it's rotting your brain…@1st-Amendment: Well cool, just uphold the Amendment while still having mass shooting, homicide and gun crime.
That's a hefty price to pay "for the rights of its citizens". But all good cause billions for gun makers hey 🤣
And how about the war in Viet, Iraq and Libya? What are the rights of US citizens in there?
1st and 2nd Amendment, how naive hahaha
just uphold the Amendment
Well that is how the law works. The role of court is to uphold the law, not entertain your childish fantasies…
And how about the war in Viet, Iraq and Libya? What are the rights of US citizens in there?
National defence. We live in the most peaceful and prosperous time in all of human history. That doesn't happen through luck.
how naive hahaha
You're the one that doesn't seem to understand how laws work. You should try go living in a place not protected by Western influence and see how it compares. Then you might learn to appreciate how good you have it.
@1st-Amendment: Oh national defence 🤣 exactly the kind of reasoning used by colonialism. I expect nothing less from your sh*tty white supremacy.
You know what US national defence aka invasion looks like in Vietnam? Here's some bloody examples: the My Lai massacre, the Agent Orange chemicals and Operation Linebacker II. That's what Western influence brings, fyi. Everyone else feel free to check out these keywords.
But ofc, you've been blinded by oversized US rockets aka white d*ck and simply call it propaganda, yah?
Then if you think the US is so supreme, just go and live there to enjoy the marvelous "Western influence". Remember to hug your beloved 2nd Amendment and prepare for mass shooting the next day 🤡
Another option is Venezuela, now under "Western influence" too. I bet it's gonna become heaven really soon 🥰 jump in while it's still cheap my dear.
Whichever way, just get the f out of here mate. So there's one less useless mfk sucking on Centrelink money (which comes from my tax dollar).
Never fail to be amazed by US-ass-kisser.
How naive hahahahaha🤣
@1st-Amendment: Is that all you got, little US supporter? Where is another Amendment to defend your motherland? Reality check hits harder than you thought, doesn't it? Don't worry, here's some more.
While you're dreaming about a 2nd Amendment in Aus, there are up to 800k tons of unexploded ordnance remained in Vietnam soil. The infected area is about the size of Tasmania. Trump conveniently cut the fund to remove these explosives, for national defence ofc 🤡
Still sounds too hard to comprehend? No problem. Right now US is planning to take over Greenland, an autonomous territory of the Kingdom of Denmark. I mean ofc it's gonna be invasion, but national defence is undeniably a valid reason. Plus, the land will be under Western influence then, so perfectly 100% safe.
Here's an idea. If the US green card is (extremely) out of your reach, consider move to Greenland. You'll get that Western influence, and the US might start selling guns there too, who knows 🤡🤡
Also, it pays to do some study before calling me unhinged. Centrelink can help you with that too, call them. At least that's a good use of my tax money 😃
How naive hahahaha
Change your name to Adrian Leung
@adrianhughes1998 I'm just about to get a 2nd hand Kia Sportage 2023 for Circa $40k, 35,000kms.
Diesel, AWD, SX+.
I hope it's a better buy than this CAR, I have a bit of fomo atm. 😅At least test drive the Chery. I did, it blew me away, and the warranty is outstanding!
Which going on users on some chery Facebook groups, you will making the most of!
@2028: Oh oh. You're saying that the car is fraught with issues and people are having to make frequent warranty claims?
This is priced similar to a Yaris with hubcaps. Astonishing.
And what does that tell you
It tells everyone that Toyota is still living off of its past glories and is completely detached from reality.
Hubcaps are far more expensive than I realised
Yaris is overpriced
This car will be on scrap heap in 10 years, whilst the Yaris will still have another 10 years of life in it.
This car will be on scrap heap in 10 years
Where is this information coming from? Is it fact or just anti Chinese car sentiment?
@shxhshzhz: It just an observation. I don't see many 10 year old Chinese cars on the road. What ever happened to the flood of GreatWall SUVs and Utes we had 10-15 years ago?
@JIMB0: That's one brand that was sold when Chinese cars were not competitive, popular or as developed as they are now.
@Bargainian: You either die a shitty car brand, or live long enough to see yourself becoming a car brand.
Where is this information coming from?
Chery came to Australia in 2011. I see zero of those on the road today. By comparison I still see hundreds of 30 year old Toyotas driving around.
Remember Daewoo? Korean, but same story. Cheap shitty trash that you never see any of any more. Why do you think that is?But it's your money, you spend it how you wish.
Is it fact or just anti Chinese car sentiment?
China has a well earned reputation for making crap products. Do you think this is pure invention, or maybe it's based on experience?
I suggest you take a look at the China Observer You Tube channel and hear it from the horse's mouth.
@1st-Amendment: Tbf Chinese brands came a long way since 2011. Also, most of them come with 7 year warranty, so they must have some good confidence in their product
Also, most of them come with 7 year warranty
The true value of that statement will be realised when you try and claim on that warranty.
@1st-Amendment: You were making a good argument but I stopped taking you seriously at China Observer. Thats rank two bit propaganda.
Thats rank two bit propaganda.
Because you said so? This is what passes for a sound argument in your head?
Care to give an example, or do you just need to wish things weren't true so they're not?
Here's one I just watched about China low quality copycat (because China is the rip-off capital of the world) of Japan's rail system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaUsll7F3-4
It directly compares the safety record against Shinkansen (ie Japan has zero fatalities in 60 years of operation)
You know that the word 'propaganda' doesn't simply mean 'says things I don't want to hear'…
@1st-Amendment: More from wikipedia:
Chery vehicles first entered Australia in 2011, brought in by Australian distributor Ateco.
Several models were introduced, including the J1, J3 hatchback and J11 SUV. The J1 became the cheapest car on sale in the country during its introduction at A$9,990.In August 2012, Ateco recalled 2,250 Chery vehicles after the cars' engines and exhaust gaskets were found to contain asbestos. Ateco ended sales of Chery vehicles in 2015, citing Chery's shifting focus to its home market and communication difficulties with the headquarters.
@shxhshzhz: "just anti Chinese car sentiment"
If you have taken apart of a Chinese car, you will get a better insight.
Plastics more flimsy, some rubbers are not in place (door seel etc to keep moisture out).
@shxhshzhz: More like worthless. Go that depreciation! Good luck with funding general repairs with such a high teck machine and finding a Chery expert mechanic esp in the regions. A real gamble after the warranty runs out.
The price of Yaris in Au is same with the price of hybrid camry in China. How do you think?
We're getting price gouged here in Australia.
@JIMB0: "price gouged"
We do pay a bit more, but not that much more.
Pull apart the door cards of a Toyota and Chery, you will notice the difference.
@SetTheFaqUp: I was comparing the price we pay for a Toyota here to the price they pay for one overseas. In China they are much cheaper and from what I could tell they are the same quality as the ones we get here.
Chinese automakers are receiving huge state backed subsidies
At least there is some economic return, real estate agent driving his German tax payer subsided BMW iX that costs $120k, that we are also tax payer subsiding.
@nephilim: "BMW iX that costs $120k"
;) they are under the LCT threshold - BMW got rid of a bunch of i5 and iX for under $95k. Nowhere as expensive as what one may perceive them to be.
Girls prefer hubcaps
Let's them know when they've hit a curb
Best off roader I have ever rented.
Yaris is an underpowered, tiny little buzzbox. Not comparable at all.
Anyone who owns one can give their honest feedback/review?
Likes / dislikes any issues etc?The question is not now but in 5-10 years time. People buy Toyota because they know how they fare long term. We don't have data for these cars yet.
I have owned many toyotas . No doubt they are reliable, cheap to maintain i have experienced no issues ever . But i think now its way overpriced so time to look for other options
If you just look at upfront cost Toyota's are poor value, but when you factor in how long they last with minimal repairs they become excellent value for money.
@JIMB0: Cost of ownership vs up front. Corolla is insanely priced for what it is. However, service properly and it will run forever, sip fuel, have a dealer network, and have some resale value. Boring, but who needs anything else in a car other than gets you around safely efficiently and reliably?
I agree it's always good to look for options.
Whether Toyota is overpriced, hard to say. You'd need to add everything into the equation, including servicing, stress if something doesn't work out, resale value, etc.
BEV cars are good examples, reliable, cheap to run, comfortable, but terrible resale value so overall you are likely better off with a normal ICE car.
Anyhow, these are my random thoughts, so happy new year!This is why these Chinese vehicles are excelling, a quarter of the price and great warranty.
This is why these Chinese vehicles are excelling
Toyota sells more RAV4's in 2 months than Chery sells all models in a year.
Your definition of 'excelling' might need revising.@1st-Amendment: I looked at an 18 month old RAV4 and the driver seat upholstery was disgraceful. What's with this shit woven fabrics the car makers are using now?
@1st-Amendment: How many of those RAV4s sold are fleet vehicles? I think you will find the average buyer is buying the Chery.
How many of those RAV4s sold are fleet vehicles?
You tell me. You're the one trying to ignore facts…
This also doesn't explain why fleet buyers aren't also buying Tiggo? Why would that be?
This also doesn't explain why my car park building has multiple RAV4's in it and zero CherysI think you will find the average buyer is buying the Chery.
Yet you have provided zero evidence to support this claim.
Who exactly is this 'average' buyer? The few hundred muppets that bought Chinese shitbox? Tiggo is not even Chery's top seller, so even Chery buyers prefer other models. Your bizarre claims do not stack up.
@1st-Amendment: Fair call if true, but I don't know anyone that's bought a Toyota in a long time (or a new car in general actually), and the highways are flooded with BYD's.
but I don't know anyone that's bought a Toyota in a long time
Ah well screw actual sales data, let's just go with what you reckon…
I don't know anyone that's bought a Toyota in a long time
That's because their old Toyota is still going.
We have data that Chery came to Australia over a decade ago and abruptly left soon after. I would feel better in a BYD if I went the China route
I'm sure people said the same about Hyundai in the early 90s when the excel was first released and it was a new brand.
Japanese couldn't make any reliable electronics in the 50s. All changed by the 80s.
You're comparing apples and oranges.
Upcoming Mazda 6e is a rebadged Depal EV
I'm sure people said the same about Hyundai in the early 90s when the excel was first released and it was a new brand.
False equivalence
People said the same about Daewoo and they were 100% right. Why do you think Chery are going be to the next Hyundai and not the next Daewoo?
Based on what I see, BYD might be the next Hyundai, but Chery to me come across like Daewoo.Japanese couldn't make any reliable electronics in the 50s. All changed by the 80s.
This is a widely circulated myth.
Japan was always known for high quality craftsmanship. Only bogans who thought 'real men drive a V8' thought 4 cylinder engines were crap. But Datsun were winning World Rally races as far back as 1970.
Japan was making precision watches in the 19th century, the Zero fighter was considered unbeatable at the start of WW2. And Japan pretty much invented the consumer electronics industry. They were the first to bring quartz watches to the world. They invented proper high speed rail in the 1960's. They have a long history of quality which is why is was so easy to rebuild after WW2 and dominate many industries. China has no such record since the Communists exterminated all their clever people during the Cultural Revolution.China makes nothing original. Everything is a cheap copy even today. Look at the MG ZS it is literally a cheap clone of the 2014 Mazda MX5, The GWM Tank is a Jeep ripoff, the Xiaomi blatantly copied the unique McLaren headlight assembly etc etc
They'll never be innovator or leader by always doing cheap copies.
@1st-Amendment: All developing countries learn by imitating/learning at first
The foreign companies know this when they enter the market.
Then they overtake
India did the same. Foreign companies weren't allowed without a local partner.
Suzuki was Maruti Suzuki
Jeep was Mahindra jeep
Pepsi was Lehar PepsiChina is still getting there and on the right track…. IMO
I've been there and love the place, the people.
All developing countries learn by imitating/learning at first. Then they overtake
Suzuki was Maruti Suzuki
Jeep was Mahindra jeep
Pepsi was Lehar PepsiBut none of these examples 'overtook' the established players.
In every example it was the opposite. Foreign established brands bough local shit brands purely to get around legislation, then ate local manufacturers with imports. This is the exact opposite of what you think it is.
The fact that you can't name a 'developing country' product that is considered world class speaks volumes. It's not an easy as you think to take over the world. Just wishing it were true won't make it so.@1st-Amendment: It will happen.. these things take time.
Today's interiors in Chinese cars are way better than the European options
Rest will come, not all brands but a few.
VW and Merc also invested in some of these Chinese brands
Anyway, you believe what you want to believe and I'll believe what I want to believe :)
Not just that. What is their support network and customer service like? Are their parts easy to get? Kia and Hyundai sometimes have parts that aren't readily available. Owned Hyundai in the past and Kia currently. Look at all the people that have issues with BYD.
Car sauce seems to cream their pants over these
https://www.carsauce.com/car-brand/chery
But in reality I’m sure they are just getting paid off by the manufacturer"Car sauce seems to cream their pants over these"
I came across an Australian review of a Chery yesterday that gave it a 3.5 out of 10. It caught my eye because all the car reviews I see these days are gutless. They give nearly everything a 7.0 to 8.0 rating.
Now where was that?
"In 2026, the Australian automotive review outlet
Chasing Cars gave the 2026 Chery Tiggo 4 Hybrid Ultimate a rating of 3.5 out of 10."Thank you, Gemini.
When your job is to review cars, you need to give them all a high score to get more cars to review
I've owned the Chery Omoda 5 for 2.5 years now with light use and no major issues. The entertainment unit needed replacing in the first year, but the dealer handled the warranty claim efficiently. However, a friend's Tiggo 4 had a breakdown in the first week that took two months to repair. Worth noting this is limited anecdotal experience.
I test drive one and my mind was blown at how good it was. The fit and finish were top notch, very very quiet on the freeway, I went in a skeptic and left thinking it’ll be my next car. The value for money is wildly good compared to my Honda odyssey.
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Time to throw in my old Kia and get on the China-vehicle bandwagon.
Already been using Xiaomi phones for a decade now, so may as well.