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XFX Radeon RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310 24GB GDDR6 GPU - Black Edition $1209 + Delivery ($0 VIC/WA C&C) @ PLE Computers

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My first ever post so please tell me if I did something wrong lol

I think this is ATL (excluding the Amazon deal few months ago) Apparently in sale until promotion stock is exhausted. Shipping from $22 with Auspost. C&C free on some of their store which are located in WA or Vic.

This one is definitely worth it if you need the vram and doesn't care much about ray tracing, compared to the 9070 XT which has only 16GB and on average priced about $1100.

It's quite long and bulky (you need 3 slot) so check your case measurements. Also requires 3x 8-pin so check your PSU first (or else you have to upgrade like what I did after getting this one).

Would say it's a good deal if you want to upgrade right now since vram is most likely getting pricier for the next coming months.

Update: deal has expired. Price has gone back to $1299

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  • +24

    Should be $799

    • +12

      In this day and age, with AI boom, good luck with that.

      • +4

        I got the one from Amazon for $830 a few months ago

      • +4

        these arent even good at AI

        • +19

          It's not about this GPU running ai models, it's that ai companies are buying huge amount of the silicon wafers that can also be used to make parts for graphics cards

          Less parts available, higher cost.

          • +1

            @Mixhael: Exactly not many ppl are running local llms, data centres are hoovering ram and storage

          • +7

            @Mixhael: so they can make AI brainrot videos.

        • They arent as bad as you think and next driver update is for AI stuff.

          Either way though its still excellent for gaming (I have 5060 Ti 16GB 4060 Ti 16 GB and 3090's here among other things and can say its a damn good card)

  • +1

    On paper it's better than 9070xt. Actually has more rt cores, idk why ray tracing would be worse. Good find

    • +15

      No FSR4 though, FSR3 is basically unusable compared to FSR4

      • Sorry I don't know shit about amd card. I got rtx 4060. And there isn't a big difference between 5060 and 4060. I thought it would be the same with amd

        • 7900XTX is faster, but RT isnt nearly as good and it doesnt do some of the fake frame stuff the newer card does.

      • +1

        There's an easy hack to get FSR4 working on 7000 series cards by just replacing dll files for any games that natively support FSR4. Optiscaler can also be used for no native support.

        • As expected nothing more than a walled garden by these prick manufacturers

    • +14

      It's an older architecture, also less power efficient too

    • +7

      current gen AMD cards are noticeably better at ray tracing than previous cards

    • On paper.

    • -8

      More RT cores doesn't necessarily mean better performance. Below are from Gemini:

      Why RDNA 4 (Radeon RX 9000 Series) Delivers Massive Ray Tracing Gains?

      The significant leap in Ray Tracing (RT) performance in the RDNA 4 architecture is primarily driven by a fundamental redesign of the Ray Tracing Accelerators. Unlike RDNA 2 and RDNA 3, which utilized more basic RT implementations, RDNA 4 transitions into a "specialized" architecture for ray-based calculations.

      1. Double Ray Tracing Intersect Engine

      This is the cornerstone of RDNA 4's hardware improvement.

      Doubled Throughput: In RDNA 3, each Compute Unit (CU) featured a single intersection engine. RDNA 4 integrates two intersection engines within each Ray Accelerator, effectively doubling the ray-box and ray-triangle intersection testing capacity per clock cycle.

      Architectural Efficiency: This allows for a massive boost in RT performance even without a proportional increase in the total number of CUs.

      2. Support for Oriented Bounding Boxes (OBB)

      Ray Tracing relies on a data structure called Bounding Volume Hierarchy (BVH) to determine where rays hit objects.

      Precision Collisions: Previous RDNA architectures primarily used Axis-Aligned Bounding Boxes (AABB), which often left significant "empty space" around diagonal or rotated objects, leading to wasted calculations.

      Reduced Overhead: RDNA 4 introduces hardware support for OBB, allowing the bounding boxes to rotate with the object. This ensures a tighter fit around geometry, significantly reducing "false hits" during ray traversal and increasing overall efficiency.

      3. All-New 8-wide BVH Traversal

      Widening the Pipeline: While RDNA 2 and RDNA 3 could handle 4-wide BVH node processing per cycle, RDNA 4 upgrades this to an 8-wide structure.

      Lower Latency: A wider traversal capability means the GPU can navigate through complex scene hierarchies in fewer steps, drastically reducing latency and increasing total ray throughput.

      4. Specialized Instruction Set Optimizations

      RDNA 4 introduces dedicated RT-specific instructions (such as RT instance node transform) to handle geometric transformations.

      Shader Offloading: In previous generations, complex geometric transforms often required help from general-purpose Shaders. By offloading these tasks to dedicated RT hardware, RDNA 4 frees up the GPU's general compute resources for other tasks like shading and post-processing.

      Summary: Real-World Impact

      Based on architectural data, RDNA 4 achieves over 2x the RT performance per CU compared to previous generations. For a user with a high-end setup like yours (9800X3D + 9070 XT), this means:

      Breaking the 60 FPS Barrier: You can now achieve stable 60+ FPS in demanding titles like Cyberpunk 2077 at 3440x1440p and "Psycho" RT settings without frame gen.

      Closing the Gap: Combined with the AI-driven FSR 4 (FidelityFX Super Resolution 4), AMD is significantly narrowing the gap with NVIDIA’s DLSS and Ray Tracing ecosystem.

      • +10

        Please do not comment with AI summaries.
        Way too often there are inaccuracies or straight up hallucinations. If you can't be bothered to write fact-based information, don't force others to read slop.

  • +2

    Bought this card for $1299, July 2024. Not bad only >$100 loss

    • +8

      You might find that this isn't really a 'deal'. But on the bright side, RRP seems to have held fairly well.

  • +2

    Have been considering this for an upgrade to get through whatever current consumer mess we're in now but it seems most people would be better served by a 5070ti if you need CUDA or a 9070XT for cheaper equivalent gaming. XTX is in a weird place unfortunately. Still pretty crazy raw raster and VRAM for the (current) money

    • 5070 Ti is going to be basically EOL or cancelled. So if anyone's looking for one it's best to buy now and avoid price hikes due to low/no stock.

      • Nvidia have already dispelled that rumour.. they aren't dropping the 5070ti

        • Scenario: They have 50 GB203 VRAM and GPU kits. 49 kits go to the 5080, 1 goes to the 5070 Ti. The 5070 Ti is not technically discontinued. But good luck buying one.

  • +5

    I was in the same position XTX vs XT. If you compare 3x 8-pin 9070 XT variants with the XTX. The 9070XT is always ahead or exactly the same in pure raster performance. Obviously the 9070XT destroys the XTX in ray tracing and FSR capabilities.

    I'd buy the 9070XT 3×8pin variant.

    • +2

      yeah i agree, unless you have a need for the extra VRAM, 9070 XT is the better buy at this price. Also the 7900 XTX has been around this price for a while https://www.pgrid.app/au/gpus/radeon-rx-7900-xtx

    • Can I see some sources? 7900 XTX is 10-15% ahead in raster from everything I have seen.

      • +3

        it is more like 3-5% ahead in raster. With the 9070xt being significantly ahead in RT. regardless it is a good card, just probably not a great buy at that price unless you are really after the memory for a non gaming purpose

      • +1

        Yeah your looking at benchmarks for 2 × 8Pin 9070XT. Look at 3 × 8Pin 9070XT benchmarks (Red Devil, Nitro, Mercury).

        Source- https://youtu.be/xNwkwy7WSj0?si=SWAh-_ETzcjrY28J (9.12min Mark- benchmarks.

        Source- https://youtu.be/BtQ8jF3I0Zw?si=Q8TuQuuPib3R9xzl. (11min Mark- benchmarks)

        • This 18 game average is using the ASUS TUF 9070 XT and shows >10% difference in raster https://www.techspot.com/review/2961-amd-radeon-9070-xt/#Per…

          • @brimmy11: Bro are you smoking copium? Did you even read the article you sourced.

            "For testing, we have several Radeon 9070 XT graphics cards on hand. All benchmark results were obtained using the Sapphire Pure"- Under the Section 'The Cards'. Please have another read.

            Also the Sapphire Pure is 2 × 8Pin 9070XT. Power starved.

            Compare a 3×8Pin 9070XT (Red Devil, Nitro, Mercury) and see how it stacks up with any XTX.

            But yeah at least read what you source lol.

  • +4

    I have this card and its great. From the research i did prior to buying it, there might be other newer gen cards better at ray tracing but i dont care for that so much. I wanted 4k gaming at a high FPS and this card delivers.

  • I bought the PowerColor Hellhound version of this in June for $1299, the 9070XT was the same price at the time. This is a great card and seemed to have a small advantage for raster with the downside being worse FSR (which I don't care about).

    • I also have a PowerColor Hellhound 7900XTX… brilliant card.
      Does what I need without the 50-tax

  • +4

    Card has unfortunately aged like milk for that price compared to a 9070XT if you want modern features

    I’d wait for it to go lower if possible

    • Yeah, rx9070xt is at least $200 cheaper, even at the same price I would still 100% go the RDNA4 card

      • Not to mention power and heat. 7900xtx uses 50-100W more than 9070XT at stock.

        And then the 9070XT undervolts well.

    • -2

      The card hasnt aged like milk, the price has.

      That said with the soon shortfall of 16GB+ cards (they are bringing back the 3060 wtf) might be a good deal if you like pure raster

  • +2

    Yeah nah RDNA3 was a misstep by AMD would go 9070XT instead especially at that price

  • I got one from Amazon a couple of weeks ago mainly for the vram to play msfs 2024 with a pimax 8kx. Unfortunately it kept crashing even at stock settings and sometimes had blank screens with the headset. So I returned it and got an RTX5070TI instead for a few bucks more.
    Very happy with the RTX5070TI, performance is excellent, undervolts (and hence overclocks) like a champ performing nearly at 5080 level whilst using about 260w vs 400w for the RX7900 XTX. Also the latest dlss 4.5 is awesome.

  • Although these cards do bring a lot to the table, it’s hard to recommend RDNA3 over RDNA4. This generation has been such a step up it’s like comparing. The RTX 20 series to the RTX 30 series. I went to from rx7800xt to rx9070xt bought about 18 months apart for a similar price. Nearly 50% improvement.

  • You know the market and any innovation has completely stagnated when people are still pushing half a decade old technology as today's flagships.

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