More JB goodies.
Type: Wireless 1536p HD video doorbell with chime and quick release battery
Compatibility: Works with Amazon Alexa and the Ring App
Smart stuff: Motion detection, alerts, and customisable privacy settings
Customizable Privacy Settings
Wait, what? What do you mean "given"?
The video feed from your door.
The video feed from your door is given to Google and FB?
Source?
@bluemyself: There have been multiple police investigations over the past year or so where the investigating team have requested camera footage and been given it, even in cases where the owner does not have an active subscription. Just google it you will find dozens of articles from major news networks
Edit: in the most recent one, which was related to ICE in some way, google provided the video footage.
@DeToxin: Yeah, I'm aware of those, but still confused by your initial comment. Do you still mean that Ring/Amazon will give your feed to Google and FB, though? That's the part I'm confused about.
@DeToxin: You meant your ring camera feed will be given to the police (when they requested, and doesn't require your consent), at least that's the case in the United States. And, if we want to find out more, check out Google and Facebook for those news?
Amazon won't give the live feed to Google and Facebook. They are competitors. Google and Facebook can easily get some sample Ring footage, but that's different.
The Ring camera feed situation depends a lot on the Ring CEO. The current CEO is quite corporative. Part of the reason is not willing to have staff wasting time following up with the customers, the police and legal department each time the police requests a footage.
I am not sure Ring is willing to keep so much footage on AWS for people without subscription.
@netsurfer: I stand corrected.
Apologies for the misinformation, I was misremembering the news piece I saw, which was actually about the Google nest door camera and the fact that the camera was still recording and sending the feed to google servers despite not having an active subscription.
I agree there will be limits to what the companies will store for non-subscribers (regardless of provider).
Also I should mention that in the piece the ring rep claims that they do not store any video footage for non-subscribers.
So I should flip my opinion on this, ring seems ok, Google nest doorbell steer clear.
For those who think this is a good price. Add on $50 a year for a subscription service otherwise its basically useless and just an expensive doorbell.
Damn that's brutal.
Still a good deal if you already own the subscription though like me.
Also it will slow down after a while and the forced subscription is balls
Here's a recent thread on doorbells that do not require a subscription
Maccas happy meal toys are useful than this
Then tp link is better?
Ring is garbage. Get something else that won't cost you $50-100 every year in subscriptions and actually has good video quality and local recording.
I run a fair few ring cameras and they are way better than what people are commenting in here, quality is way better than other cameras. Yeah it has a subscription fee but i dont have the hassle of having to store them myself. they are fast and responsive i personally can not fault them.
they are way better than what people are commenting in here, quality is way better than other cameras
This is just plain false.
Ring cameras are nothing special in either picture quality or build quality, even within their price bracket. There are direct comparisons available online to verify this. And there are cameras with significantly better quality if you are willing to pay extra.
Yeah it has a subscription fee but i dont have the hassle of having to store them myself.
The "hassle" in using your own local storage is pretty negligible. Local storage works out cheaper after a year or two. There's literally no downside except for the slightly higher upfront cost.
If you really like the Ring business model and you're happy to pay for the tiny bit of extra convenience, that's fine.
Well im comparing to other ones i have used from eufy to swann cameras i have found ring cameras worked best for detection and quality especially low light night vision i don't care about other peoples reviews this is my own personal opinion.
If you're concerned about your privacy:
https://www.theverge.com/news/881339/after-search-party-back…
TLDR: they have a feature to use other people's ring cameras to search for missing dogs.
Ring isn't that popular here (because quite a number Chinese made surveillance systems are not banned here). If our police wants to do that, they won't have enough footage. The more scary parts isn't mentioned in the article. Put it this way, it is due to searching for missing dogs (which US government doesn't care about monitoring them more closely) that they had to resort to video footages.
We have cameras in the CBD, supermarkets, shopping centres, shops / stores, and home surveillance cameras are common now. Part of the problems is cameras are so cheap nowadays. Furthermore, OZBers are mostly after local storage ones (you believe your neighbours will guide your privacy safely). The current gen systems have local AI with smart detections (person detection, vehicle detection, animal detection etc…). Imagine the commercial grade systems are capable of. Video surveillance is just one aspect. If authorities want to watch you, they would ask some other companies who actually have more information on you (unless you don't use smartphones, laptops, tablets and/or computers).
Expecting complete privacy in the digital world is unrealistic. Ring and Amazon don't care. They know you are not going to boycott Amazon.
Don't buy this, get a Reolink version instead
No cloud fees, doesn't slow down
+1 Get the Reolink WiFi doorbell instead. It will cost more upfront, but it has plenty of options for free local storage and also allows cloud storage if you want that. It's a higher resolution camera, and it's compatible with most NVRs and smart home ecosystems.
Avoid this, you’re the product
Reolink is the way to go for video doorbells.
Just a reminder for all that your ring camera feed will be given to both google and Facebook, even if you don't have an active subscription