6 Varieties:
I will buy them.
Which one?
ALL of them
'gourmet', but for $5 hardly OK.
Downvoters deserve this muck
@ $2.50 a pie they are pretty bloody good mate.
I've had some dank bakery pies that they want like $7 for these days.
Looks very enticing. $250 for a pie's a bit much though and your mate Albo wouldn't like the fuel wastage.
@jv: It might have a tiny bit of credibility if you actually knew what you were talking about. Unlikely. but hope springs eternal.
if you actually knew what you were talking about.
Paying 10's of thousands of dollars of tax payer money for her family's free holidays…
After this was exposed, the government was forced to change the laws to stop these rorts continuing…
@jv: There are no laws, only benefit regulations and guidelines, something you ought to know. IF you bothered to inform yourself of the basics you'd also know that family re-union expenses were and still are standard for all members, and especially relevant for a WA Minister with young children. The benefits - recommended by the expenses authority and endorsed by the Remuneration Tribunal - were arguably very generous but left untouched by successive govts. The "independent authority" was asked to review the benefits and guidelines because Albanese didn't like the optics. Ultimately 'politics' overcame political entitlement and allowable claims have been significantly curtailed. Imo the one economy class re-union per year now provided is ludicrously harsh if we want to attract and keep good 'young' political talent to federal govt. The fact that an old white male with no young kids presided over the changes isn't lost on me. Neither is the fact that it wasn't on your radar.
Labor minister Don Farrell claimed $9,000 for family travel during sports events and theatre showings
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/dec/08/labor…
This is what your taxes pay for…
Maybe Albo should pay extra tax so I can take my family to Europe next summer?
@jv: Did you intentionally overlook the multiple big spenders from the three majors or is your search engine throttled down so that it filters out whatever it thinks you won't like?
It's shocking that politicians enjoying their limited free time with family might actually do what everyday Australians do. Shocking, that is, for populist non-thinkers on forums and blokes down the pub drinking their families income away while whinging about the tough economic times.
If Albanese wants to make a real difference he should recommend that living exoenses paid while parliament sits cannot be used to subsidise politicians buying second/third etc houses in Canberra, something which not only reduces the dollars which would be injected into the local community but also deprives Canberrans of housing.
@jv: No deflection from me, but bags full of cherries from you. Unlike you, I've read the full list of "big spenders" and some background as to why their spending is above the norm. Here you go, now you can read the same, which does give a little background in a very few cases - eg the Nationals Anne Webster's Perth trip: https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/the-mps-who-spent-mo… I have no doubt there would be plenty of similarly reasonable explanations, just as I'm sure there is, or was, plenty of entitled rorting.
When you're done getting some perspective there, here's a 2024 list of MPs with Canberra houses. If you can temporarily overcome your myopia for I'll leave it to you to determine the ethics : https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/travel-allowance-rul…
It's shocking that politicians enjoying their limited free time with family might actually do what everyday Australians do.
They can do what they like in their free time but the tax payer should not be paying for it…
The tax payer and certainly none of my past employers ever paid for my family's holidays…
The tax payer and certainly none of my past employers ever paid for my family's holidays…
You didn't get holiday pay? Join a union. You didn't take advantage of sponsored vouchers? Do your homework. You're not accepting the halved fuel tax or the multiple other taxpayer subsidies every Australian family has enjoyed for decades? Go and sit in the dunce seat and reflect on how naivety and disinformation has affected your judgement.
What the "taxpayer" should/not be paying for is a matter of opinion - preferably informed,considered opinion, not the half-baked, populist, knee-jerk tosh some keep rolling out.
I went to a bakery on the weekend and it was over $16 for a sausage roll and a small cake. Makes this deal look very good.
i agree, ok at best
Compared to 4/20, are gourmet
I used to like 4&20, but they went so far downhill. These are the only decent brand left I like now.
4N20 ANGUS are decent enough at the special price of $9.60 a four pack. Beef and pepper is my preference. Herbert Adams equivalent is better, less pepper.
What animal does gourmet come from? Is it a weird cut from a horse?
I'm sure there will be some Hyena in these pies.
Yes
You'd never know if there was human in there. Lottery of minced meat!
These used to be half price at $6 not that I'm complaining .
It was $6 in coles a week or 2 back. Normal price cycle? Nice pies.
These taste better than the Charlottes Bakery ones at Coles.
Tried them once . Were terrible , then googled it and realised it’s just a Cole’s home brand with a fancy name
Colette is not a fancy name then??
Yeah got tricked by these once. Never again.
100 percent I bought Charlotte's thinking it's another premium brand.. it's crap
HA are decent
No chance. Rarely under $5 iirc. Used to buy them regularly when on sale but they've hardly ever been in stock at any of the local Coles and Woolies over the last 2-3 years.
Just a reminder that Patties, 4&20, Nanna's, these Herbert Adams pies, and several others are all manufactured in literally the same factory about 3 hours east of Melbourne. Doesn't mean the same quality of rats are going into all the rat coffins, but there really isn't a huge amount of difference, and they all pull that shrinkflation bs of watering down the gravy and having the pie be tiny under a giant flat ring of crust. What they have done is nailed 'as good as a supermarket frozen pie can get' - nobody does mass produced frozen better than that factory (And I have looked. A lot. Though the UK does better with ones involving mashed potato. Work travel sucks sometimes).
If you're buying mass produced, want a better pie than these, and are happy to go with fridge quality - you want Garlo's, at least around VIC/NSW/ACT. Fridge pies don't travel as well though, so I don't know if you'll find them in WA/QLD/NT/TAS. Maybe SA. Find your local version.
If you like pies and want actual good pies though making them yourself is so much easier than it sounds. There's a reason they became popular in a country full of people stranded thousands of miles from home with near zero cooking skills and piss poor infrastructure. Make any sort of meat sauce (or veg if you're allergic to good food), simmer it down for an hour or two so it's thick, shove it in some pastry, cook it some more. Done.
i dont really rate garlos
they are ok but nothing special
Understatement. Bought a couple of Garlos at Coles to try during covid. Weird taste, worst pie I've ever eaten. Even copious amounts of sauce couldn't kill the flavour. Never again.
I just read the chefs and bakers review linked above. One wrote: “Had promise with the top but the bottom pastry is soggy. Shit flavour and the meat is grainy, mealy and powdery.” Couldn't agree more about the flavour.
Garlos aren’t even fresh , they defrost them and sell them in the fridge like the are fresh. I think they are over rated. Would rather a fresh national pie from Tassy over Garlos.
Was about to say this, definitely rate National Pie well over Garlos.
Hell I'd rate Herbert Adam's over Garlos
And making your own knowing there are no nasty additives added! Cannot believe how much crap is in processed foods these day's.
I miss Herbert Adams from like 30 years ago when they came in the tin trays. Different recipe for the gravy. Less chunks of meat that you get in "fancy pies" nowadays but much denser mince meat. I think it's a bullshit marketing trick now how pies have 3 odd chunks of meat because you dont actually get more meat or better quality of meat. What you get a is mouth full of gravy on one bite and another bite will have all the meat.
do you guys have two at a time?
yeah me neither…
yuk, go support your local bakery!
how much is your local bakery? Genuinely curious…
it'd be at least $5 for one pie
the viet bakers are cheapest here and really good but let's be real… they are largely getting them premade and then just heating them up
Probably about $7 from a bakery that makes their own.
the whole argument is stupid anyway
i dont have a problem with a $7 pie
but i like to lounge at home in my underwear and nuke a pie up and then airfry it
i doubt me and underwear are welcome at the local bakery…
but i like to lounge at home in my underwear and nuke a pie up and then airfry it
Sure, but these are hardly comparible to a freshly made good bakery pie…
Try some next time you are in NZ, they make the best pies there by far…
the bakery i go to which is 20 minutes away has the best chunky pepper steak pies i have ever had, they are around $5 but they also sell cold pies which you can freeze for $3.50, so i'ts a no brainer for me however i know some bakeries charge around 7 or 8 dollars a pie now which is kinda ridiculous.
Best supermarket pies now that Sargent's are gone
Where did they go?
to the great pie factory in the sky
i believe they bit the dust out of covid?
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That sounds Major !!!
Love a Villis with that super soft flaky pastry, but 4/20 has taken over most of the sporting venues that sold them in nsw
The party pies have the edge for me. Greater proportion of meat despite the smaller size suggesting otherwise. Shorter ingredient list as well.
Surface area vs volume…. I think it needs a study.
I remember their donuts as a kid
Ah, memory unlocked - that's right, they were jam donuts?
This will go well with a piecost.
30% at Coles today if I'm right and I almost bought some.
ok at best
Best frozen pies you can buy.
Although I’ll never forgive them for discontinuing the slow cooked beef in portobello mushroom & merlot.
The others can’t even compare…
I wish they did a vegetarian pie
Good deal. Thanks for posting. I will buy them.