[VIC] Infringment Notice for Same Parking Offence from Both Vicpol and Council

nahkk on 28/04/2026 - 10:58
Last edited 28/04/2026 - 12:24 by 1 other user

My car was parked in a street that has No Stopping sign.

I saw the council fine on windscreen when I came back. It was issued at 7:58am. (Brimbank Council)

A few days later, I received an infringement notice from Victoria Police via mail for same offence. It records approximate offence time on 8:20 am for same date.

Both notices has same offence code: Stopped contrary to a no stopping sign (code 793)

I believe that in Victoria, same offense cannot be penalized more than once. I talked to Fines Victoria and the customer representative said that I would need to file an internal review request as they cannot locate the other infringement being it issued from other agency.

Is this the fastest way to resolve this? The council notice does not even have a phone number on it. I understand I have to pay fine but I don't want to pay it twice.

Automotive Parking Fine

Comments

Best
Search through all the comments in this post.
  • Simon Beech on 28/04/2026 - 11:32
    +26

    cant park there mate

    • nickj on 29/04/2026 - 13:43
      +4

      Thanks Keith…

      • ssfps on 30/04/2026 - 01:27

        Absolutely disgusting, who is that ugly witch with the microphone intimidating that patriot?

  • mr_alligator on 28/04/2026 - 13:36
    +21

    Ask the council to cancel theirs because Vic police have already fined you for the same offence (provide proof)
    Ask Vic police to cancel theirs because the council have already fined you for the same offence (provide proof).

    Problem solved.

    • singlemalt72 on 28/04/2026 - 14:51

      They will require proof of the other one having been paid

      • tenpercent on 28/04/2026 - 16:05
        +2

        Grok, can you design a receipt from Vicpol paying for a fine.
        Grok, can you design a receipt from the Council paying for a fine.

        • wetsandwich on 28/04/2026 - 16:59

          2x fraud charges would actually be enforcable in that case though..

        • Euphemistic on 30/04/2026 - 16:14

          Grok provides pictures of elon.

  • GordonD on 28/04/2026 - 11:30
    +18

    You can be booked by both police and council. And you may have to pay both if the second fine is for the offence continuing. For example exceeding a 1 hour parking limit, and still being there after another hour.

    But if both relate to the same short period of time you can request a review from Fines Victoria.

    https://online.fines.vic.gov.au/Request-a-review

  • BOGOF on 28/04/2026 - 11:34
    +11

    Common sense dictates you can't be fined more than once for the exact same offence.
    Suggest you request a review of the police fine, as it was the second one, ensuring you attach the council fine as evidence asap.

    • nwa on 29/04/2026 - 14:54
      +3

      Do both and win. Get the police to drop their fine and council to drop theirs based on other fine.

      • BOGOF on 29/04/2026 - 15:41
        +1

        They will need evidence that one fine has been paid

        • Euphemistic on 30/04/2026 - 16:12

          Will they require evidence though? Might be a loophole.

        • Muppet Detector on 30/04/2026 - 17:20

          It was a no parking zone. OP's car wasn't even there, so clearly both fines were just made up.

    • Rob-4x4 on 29/04/2026 - 08:09

      Common sense does not apply the the Law.

      It is what is in the relevant legislation that matters and it may not be common sense.

      Then it is up to the interpretation of that legislation firstly by the relevant authorities and finally via the judiciary . (ie separation of powers )

      So it comes do to how large is your bank balance and how much and quality of legal representation can you afford which decides the level of justice you receive.

      Good luck

      • BOGOF on 28/04/2026 - 12:13
        +7

        They parked their car in a No Stopping zone for multiple days

        Read it again. The offence was the same day 22 minutes apart. The second fine arrived a few days after the offence

      • CodeXD on 28/04/2026 - 12:12
        +3

        I'm assuming offense on the same day. Council was on the spot fine but Vic police mails it out so arrived a few days later

        • ronnknee on 30/04/2026 - 15:33
          +2

          Literacy is a problem among OzBargainers.

      • gaz3342 on 28/04/2026 - 12:34
        +2

        I think you may be misunderstanding OPs post.

        He received the second fine a few days later, not he was fined for still being there a few days later

        • Porker on 28/04/2026 - 14:06
          +3

          OP later amended post to clarify this detail. Early responses were to the notion that OP parked their car over multiple days and received the fines on different dates.

      • nahkk on 28/04/2026 - 12:16
        +1

        The car was not parked across days. Both notices are for same morning 22 minutes apart. As CodeXD mentioned that Vic Police notices takes a few days to arrive by mail.

        • Muppet Detector on 30/04/2026 - 17:18

          Why did you park in a no parking zone?

  • wannagrababargain on 28/04/2026 - 12:05
    +5

    Talk about being over governed! I think your best bet is submit a review to the vicpol one just based on that seems easier to get a resolution than going through the council. There's an established procedure there - show evidence of the council fine and say you'll pay that.

    • Wiser on 29/04/2026 - 22:44

      Exactly
      Police complaining about shortage of resources yet they have time looking for parking offences
      No time to attend assaults, car thefts
      accidents etc..

  • Save 50 Cent on 29/04/2026 - 13:03
    +4

    Get both fines withdrawn by sending a copy of each fine to the other party.

  • HCBargain on 29/04/2026 - 14:51
    +4

    Pay both fines for being a pelican who parked in a No Standing zone for at least 22 minutes. Then don't do it again.

  • MS Paint on 28/04/2026 - 11:22
    +3

    I believe that in Victoria, same offense cannot be penalized more than once.

    What is the source of your belief?

      • Muppet Detector on 30/04/2026 - 16:43
        -1
        1. Your link is to the Victorian Human Rights Committee and s26 of the Charter of Human Rights.

        It applies to Criminal Law and the principle of double jeopardy.

        1. You have been neither charged or convicted of a criminal offence. (Once you have been charged for it one, you can't be charged for same crime again - Then your link may be relevant…

        2. You have been issued with two separate parking tickets. You were issued with one parking ticket at 7:58. Presumably you were parked there despite there being a sign which says "No stopping".

        If you did park in the jurisdiction of that sign, it can also be said that you stopped there. Therefore, when you were caught parking there at 7:58 you were issued with a parking ticket.

        1. 22 minutes passes and it is now 8:20. You have now been caught stopping somewhere where you are not supposed to stop for a second time and have been issued a second parking fine.

        2. Continue to leave it there and this continues to happen for hours and even days with the fines accumulating to a level that will eventually pay attention to so that you will decide not to park there again.

        According to your reasoning, you could park there unlawfully just one time, and only receive just that one fine or penalty if you left your car there for long term parking whilst you travelled overseas for six weeks.

        1. Finally, your double jeopardy link is for crimes, we don't have double jeopardy laws for parking tickets which are either statutory offences, specifically summary offences or regulatory offences, they are not criminal offences.
        • DogGunn on 30/04/2026 - 22:26
          -1

          Did you put this into AI?

          Whilst it's clearly not a serious crime, parking offences are still considered crimes, which are expiated by way of an infringement notice.

          • Muppet Detector on 30/04/2026 - 23:20

            @DogGunn: Criminal Offences are found in the Crimes Acts parking infringements are infringement offences they are not found in the crimes acts.

            • DogGunn on 30/04/2026 - 23:41
              -1

              @Muppet Detector: That's not how it works lmao

              Good luck finding the definition of murder in the Victorian Crimes Act - by your definition, murder wouldn't be a criminal offence.

              Criminal offences are found in all sorts of statutes, including the Road Rules.

                • DogGunn on 30/04/2026 - 23:50

                  @Muppet Detector: I am telling you that you're wrong.

                  There are many more "crimes" than what is in the crimes act.

                  • Muppet Detector on 30/04/2026 - 23:53
                    +2

                    @DogGunn:

                    by your definition, murder wouldn't be a criminal offence.

                    I've had enough hillbilly to last me a lifetime.

                    • DogGunn on 30/04/2026 - 23:55
                      -1

                      @Muppet Detector: Just in case you weren't aware, you won't find the definition of murder in the crimes act. Therefore, not a crime, right?

                      • Muppet Detector on 01/05/2026 - 04:48

                        @DogGunn: sigh

                        As you know, in Victoria, the definition of murder if found in common law.

                        In your smartarsery scabby nose and snotty nose, ineffective education, your coke bottle glasses have prevented you from acknowledging that the 1958 Crimes Act, Not only lists offences contained in the acts along with their definition in both the legislation and the Judges Bench Book from which the judge instructs the jury, it initially declared all offences listed in that Act to be indictable offences but then goes on to list Murder as it's very first type of homicide.

                        • DogGunn on 01/05/2026 - 07:21
                          -1

                          @Muppet Detector:

                          As you know, in Victoria, the definition of murder if found in common law.

                          Yes, exactly, not all crimes are in the crimes act. Thank you for proving my point.

                          Maybe read the legislation in its entirety be fore shooting your mouth off.

                          That's not a definition lol

                          At no time did I say it was contained in a single Act

                          Yes you did, you literally said crimes are in the crimes act:
                          https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/17542729/redir

                          why not spend some time towards learning about your legal
                          System and pulling your boots out of your mouth.?

                          It is very clear that you do not know what you are talking about. I was only trying to prove that.

                  • Muppet Detector on 01/05/2026 - 04:55

                    @DogGunn: The 1958 Crimes Act VIC

                    Not only classifies it as an indictable offence at 2B

                    BUT

                    Part I—Offences 7
                    Division 1—Offences against the person 7
                    (1) Homicide 7
                    3 Punishment for murder

                    Crimes Act 1958

                    Maybe read the legislation in its entirety be fore shooting your mouth off.

              • Muppet Detector on 01/05/2026 - 05:03

                @DogGunn:

                Criminal Offences are found in the Crimes Act(s)

                Good luck finding the definition of murder in the Victorian Crimes Act

                At no time did I say it was contained in a single Act

                Off the to
                Of my head Qld has at least three drug related criminal acts which supplement the main one.

                Pssst, some of our crimes are also captured by common law, but are overseen and pursued through the courts and legal frameworks that allow them to exist. Just like yours.

                Instead of trying to double down on some "gotcha moment", why not spend some time towards learning about your legal
                System and pulling your boots out of your mouth.?

      • Muppet Detector on 30/04/2026 - 17:07
        -2

        Relates to double jeopardy for Criminal Offences.

        Parking tickets (as you describe) are not Criminal Offences.

        In Victoria, a parking ticket issued in a no stopping zone is a statutory offence. More specifically, they are referred to as summary or regulatory offences, but generally speaking, they are not criminal offences and are not subject to the laws of double jeopardy.

        • tenpercent on 28/04/2026 - 12:57
          +5

          this doesn't mean you won't get another speeding ticket if you continue to speed for the same road.

          But can you get two speeding tickets for the same incident and offence?

          • sammm on 29/04/2026 - 15:56
            +2

            @tenpercent: But is not at the sane time. So couldn't he be charged twice

          • Muppet Detector on 30/04/2026 - 17:12
            +1

            @tenpercent:

            But can you get two speeding tickets for the same incident and offence?

            Two incidents.

            1. Car parked unlawfully at 7:58
              2: Car parked unlawfully at 8:20 (again)

            3: Car parked unlawfully at 6:30 pm (again)
            4: Car parked unlawfully at 7:58 next day (again)
            5: Car parked unlawfully at 6:30 pm in six weeks when you return to collect it after your overseas trip.

            Keep offending after first incident, not even double jeopardy will help lol

            Dude will receive an infringement every time he is found to be parking in a no parking area.

          • Porker on 28/04/2026 - 13:32
            -3

            @tenpercent: Ahh.. I meant something on the lines that; receiving the first infringement doesn't mean there is exemption of further enforcement for the same offence type.

            So in the situation of speeding, receiving an infringement doesn't mean that the motorist won't receive another if they continue to speed on the same road. For the OP situation, offence resets (for the most part and operationally) at the start of a new day.

            EDIT: OP has stated offence was at the same time and day. My response was on understanding as per original their post that it may have been the same offence for a different day

        • EightImmortals on 28/04/2026 - 12:55

          At the same time? How is that even possible?

          • Porker on 28/04/2026 - 13:28
            -1

            @EightImmortals: Correction: I can see my comment could be misunderstood

            Example situation is if one continues to speed after receiving an speeding infringement. They may receive a second or more infringements if they continue to speed. The first infringement doesn't mean they're exempt from further enforcement.

            • EightImmortals on 28/04/2026 - 15:10
              +2

              @Porker: That makes more sense as the second tax collector wouldn't know about the first 'offence'. In the OP's case though it shouldn't have happened and the arseclown government needs to figure out which branch of enforcers is responsible for parking infringements and which one isn't.

        • Porker on 28/04/2026 - 13:57
          -4

          My statement was on understanding that the offence was on different days. OP has since clarified that it's the same (single) offence.

        • Dr Phil on 29/04/2026 - 07:49
          -6

          The easiest way to avoid this is to PARK LEGALLY in future

  • JIMB0 on 28/04/2026 - 12:33
    +3

    Pay the cheaper one and get the other canceled.

  • tenpercent on 28/04/2026 - 13:00
    +3

    Why are there two different government funded employees doing duplicated work? Sounds like some efficiency is needed.

    • cloudy on 30/04/2026 - 11:29
      +1

      Its revenue raising, so you get twice the revenue. That sounds like efficiency if there was ever the word.

    • Muppet Detector on 30/04/2026 - 17:22
      -1

      Why are there two different government funded employees doing duplicated work? Sounds like some efficiency is needed.

      Second dude was moonlighting as an NDIS provider.

  • 82norm on 30/04/2026 - 13:32
    +2

    If your a sovereign citizen, just ignore it.

    • Baysew on 30/04/2026 - 17:22

      State that you were not travelling.

  • bheart on 28/04/2026 - 12:02
    +1

    It was issued at 7:58am. (Brimbank Council)

    A few days later, I received an infringement notice from Victoria Police for same offence. It records approximate offence time on 8:20 am.

    Are the offence dates the same or different?

    • nahkk on 28/04/2026 - 12:17
      +1

      Same date

  • hashtagbargain on 28/04/2026 - 14:28
    +1

    Which is higher?

  • Dougaldog on 29/04/2026 - 08:38
    +1

    Do a review with both if possible. Maybe they will both cancel their fine thinking the other is still in effect. Double negative = positive :)

  • Muppet Detector on 30/04/2026 - 17:01
    +1

    My car was parked in a street that has No Stopping sign.

    Did you see the sign when you parked?

    Was it confusing?

    Was there a permanent structure preventing you from seeing it?

    Was it hidden between trees?

    Did it have arrows pointing in a different direction?

    Was there a contradictory sign that said that you could?

    Did you or your vehicle have any lawful excuse or exclusionary pass that provided you with permission to park there?

    I saw the council fine on windscreen when I came back. It was issued at 7:58am. (Brimbank Council)

    Bugger, so do any of those excuses help you?

    It records approximate offence time on 8:20 am for same date.

    Whoops, you got caught stopping there at 7:58 and were then unfortunate enough to get caught by a second bloke for doing it again at 8:20! You broke it at 7:58 AND then again at 8:20…. oh man.

    Why would you do that?

    Both notices has same offence code: Stopped contrary to a no stopping sign (code 793)

    Same offence code because you committed the same offence twice.

    They don't change the offence code each time they charge somebody.

    The code for " No Stopping" is the same code for every person who unlawfully stops there however many times they do it.

    I believe that in Victoria, same offense cannot be penalized more than once

    No Australian jurisdiction penalises any offense be it traffic or criminal etc, so they're not even penalised once.

    In fact, I would have to google to learn when an offense may be subject to penalty by law.

  • pegaxs on 28/04/2026 - 12:06

    Hold on… Was the fine for the same offence?? As in the date and time of the fine was within 30~ish mins, or was the council one for say, Monday and the police one was for Wednesday??

    Did you remove the council ticket off the window between when the fines were issued??

    Why didn't you move the car… A more stupid question, why did you even park there in the first place? Did you think this was just some parking loophole where you can park where you like and just pay the fine??

    • nahkk on 28/04/2026 - 12:21
      +1

      Both notices are for same day, just 22 minutes apart. I parked the car to drop a patient to hospital emergency and took a while to return to remove the car. Did not park there again.

      The council notice was on the windscreen on 8:20.

      • pegaxs on 28/04/2026 - 13:08
        +1

        Then, in that case, I would apply to have a review of the police ticket that was issued and cite that you received a fine from council 22 mins earlier for the same offence and send them proof of the council issued fine for 22 mins prior and that you are essentially being fined for the same infraction without sufficient time to to correct your behaviour between the fines.

        • Ocker on 28/04/2026 - 16:37

          He had 22 minutes to correct his behaviour. Clearly he was not "stopped", but "parked"

          • R-Man on 29/04/2026 - 15:11

            @Ocker: How did they have 22 min to correct the behaviour

    • nwa on 30/04/2026 - 09:59
      +1

      Something doesn't add up, or is a bit strange. Most likely multiple people or even same person reported the offence to council and police. The council came first and put a fine on the windscreen meaning the police didn't see the first fine, perhaps issued their fine from a distance.

  • Porker on 28/04/2026 - 14:01

    As stated, if you're able to demonstrate that there was a medical emergency or incident requiring your attention, then you can certainly appeal the fine.

    Most Council's will list what evidence they require to waive the infringement based on this justification.

  • belongsinforums on 29/04/2026 - 16:31

    Lol

  • SuperMid on 29/04/2026 - 19:44

    Those early learing centers arent going to pay for themselves

  • 82norm on 29/04/2026 - 20:16

    Is the a case of double jeopardy?

    • Euphemistic on 30/04/2026 - 16:17

      Is that a legal term in australia, or just something from movies?

      • sam-1966 on 30/04/2026 - 17:07
        +1

        Is that a legal term in australia

        In Australia you just have to quote from 'The Castle'.

      • hashtagbargain on 30/04/2026 - 16:59

        I think it is a tv show.

  • BobLim on 29/04/2026 - 22:11

    Seems pretty fair to get a further fine every couple of minutes at least - given the allowable time for stopping is 0 seconds..

    • smartazz104 on 30/04/2026 - 10:12

      If that were the case VicLab could reduce their debt to effectively $0.

      • BobLim on 30/04/2026 - 17:54

        Selfish pricks singlehandedly fixing all the debt? Sounds like a win to me

  • BuddhaBoy on 29/04/2026 - 23:38

    Pay the cheapest fine first. Penalty units may vary between Vic Pol and Council.

    Then submit an internal review to the other. Send copy of fine and payment. Other fine will be withdrawn.
    Note - fines should be for same offence type, same date.

    • nahkk on 30/04/2026 - 22:10

      Same offence code, same date (22 minutes apart) and same fine amount $204

      • BuddhaBoy on 01/05/2026 - 09:51

        Ok, in that case, pay one fine and appeal for another. It will be withdrawn.
        If I were you, pay the VicPol fine, and appeal the Council fine.

  • bigbadaboom on 30/04/2026 - 11:02

    my sympathies. it's hard to digest these in an age where your situation, and a scenario where a tax dodging multinational causing a massive oil spill destroying an ecosystem gets handed tax payer funds to clean up their mess… BOTH take place in the same reality, same country.

    For a person earning the median personal income in metropolitan Melbourne, a single parking fine is about 15% of their weekly gross income.

  • DIVISIONX on 30/04/2026 - 22:08

    Brimbank Council working overtime

  • nomoneynoproblems on 28/04/2026 - 14:03
    -1

    Double jeopardy applies here. Fight it.

  • jeffa on 29/04/2026 - 12:13
    -1

    Simple. If the council fine was issued at 07;58 and you noticed it on the windscreen afterwards, why did Plod book you at 08;20? He must have seen the Council ticket, and so (unless he is being obstinate) see that the one offence had been registered and a ticket issued.
    Maybe he thought you had driven around the block and came back to the same spot, and knowingly comitted a new offence?

  • vovka on 30/04/2026 - 08:58
    -1

    Not sure how the person who couldn't read the road sign was able to read the ticket and infringement notice.

  • Marty156 on 29/04/2026 - 11:32
    -2

    Why wouls anyone expect a cancellation of either offence?

    It is a NO STOPPING sign.

    This means if the wheels of the car are not moving/rotating, it is physically STOPPED.

    There is no concept of how long you can stop at a NO STOPPING sign.

    • ssfps on 30/04/2026 - 01:21
      +2

      There is no concept of how long you can stop at a NO STOPPING sign.

      By your logic, the council could issue an infinite number of tickets within any period of time, with an arbitrarily small interval.

  • Ocker on 28/04/2026 - 16:42
    -4

    From CoPilot:

    In Victoria, No Stopping is a continuing offence.
    Every moment the vehicle remains illegally stopped, the offence continues.

    So:

    9:00am — Council officer observes the offence and issues a fine.

    9:22am — Police observe the vehicle still committing the same offence.

    Because 22 minutes have passed, this is treated as a fresh offence event.

    • wetsandwich on 28/04/2026 - 16:59
      +2

      What's the minimum interval though? When does it reset? What if 20 council officers came along, one every minute?

    • pegaxs on 29/04/2026 - 14:51
      +1

      From CoPilot:

      *cringe*… got any actual legislation that states this, not the opinion of a shit AI bot?

      In Victoria, No Stopping is a continuing offence.

      Source? (that isnt an AI chatbot)

      Every moment the vehicle remains illegally stopped, the offence continues.

      Define "moment". 1 second? 10 seconds? 1 hour? 1 day? 21 minutes? If this is the case, why does the ranger not just stand there and continue to print out tickets as fast as the machine will print them until you come back and move the vehicle? It's because they know the secondary tickets would be tossed…

      I would agree with you if OP was standing at the car and a police officer turned up and gave them a ticket and told them to move on and OP said "ok", and then just left the car there and the police circled back 22 mins later and saw the car still parked there… But that isn't what happened in this case. These are two clearly independent law enforcement officers fining someone over the "same" incident without giving OP the chance to modify their behaviour. Had OP arrived before the 2nd ticket was issued and saw the first ticket, they may have seen the ticket and realised how they were parked and moved the vehicle before getting a 2nd ticket.

      Because 22 minutes have passed, this is treated as a fresh offence event.

      Yeah, nah, I dont think that is correct in OP's circumstance.

    • idonotknowwhy on 30/04/2026 - 08:57
      +1

      Remember LLMs hallucinate, so always…. ask another LLM to critique the first one!

      From Gemma-4:

      Copilot is legally regarded. A continuing offence means the same act keeps festering—it doesn't magically respawn as a "fresh event" every 22 minutes like some municipal loot crate. Council and cops aren't tag-teaming your wallet for the same unmoved shitbox. One continuous stop = one infringement. The second ticket is pure cope on paper; dispute it and they'll fold, because even Victorian revenue farmers know milking the same cow twice gets them sued. NGMI.

      From Kimi-K2.6:

      Copilot is hallucinating hard. In Vic, a No Stopping breach is a single offence — the crime is committed the second your shitbox stops moving. It’s not a subscription service that bills your wallet every 22 minutes.

      Council fines you at 9:00. Cops see you at 9:22. Same continuous stop, same offence. They can’t tag-team your bank account unless you actually drove away and came back to do it again.

      “Fresh offence event” is pure AI fanfiction. Tell Copilot to touch asphalt.

      • smartazz104 on 30/04/2026 - 10:14

        Copilot is legally regarded

        Is that the r/wallstreetbets definition of regarded or…

      • Muppet Detector on 30/04/2026 - 17:28

        Copilot is legally regarded.

        And absolutely essential when flying some planes.

        Copilot is hallucinating hard.

        This is not good. Time to ask airplane cabin if there are any copilots, doctors or really slow runners on board.

    • tenpercent on 28/04/2026 - 17:43
      -1

      Every moment the vehicle remains illegally stopped, the offence continues.
      …
      Because 22 minutes have passed, this is treated as a fresh offence event.

      Pick a lane.
      The offence continues or it's fresh, not both.

Login or Join to leave a comment
Login Join