What is one country you visited that you would go again? And one country you visited that wont be going back?
Loved - Italy
Would never go back - India
Destination You Loved
ReallyLost on 03/05/2026 - 16:02
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"They" are being 'encouraged' or 'allowed' to come, because multi-tribalism slowly fractures the dominant tribe.
While at the same time, all of the tribes are constantly shown news so that the friction remains between the tribes, and the tribes will constantly blame each other, and not blame the billionaires involved.
really, this is probably the best explanation of how the world works
In that case, stop all immigration. Will your children and grandchildren be able to survive here in Australia without immigration?
No one is saying stop all immigration, but isn't it funny how we have a 'skills shortage' for decades, and can't seem to find a single builder, electrician, plumber, yet we can find 2 million uber drivers that aren't skilled nor needed at all?
At some point, you people should stop simping for the destruction of your own country.
@wetsandwich: The following is just my 5c worth (increased for inflation and COL crisis etc), with nothing to support my musings
but isn't it funny how we have a 'skills shortage' for decades,
Before 1975, we were very trade heavy and about then, we identified that we needed to start developing more of our workforce into tertiary orientated careers.
Since then, we saw a shift towards a large increase in tertiary qualifications and a devaluation of trade qualifications.
It wasn't immediate and it involved many more complexities and gradual changes, but over a few decades, the social paradigm and landscape of what our workforce should look like.
If this skills shortage is only 20 odd years old, it makes sense when you think that it often takes a few generations to make or shift social ideologies.
and can't seem to find a single builder, electrician, plumber,
As above, but in comparison to the next point, these take time to "grow or develop" and to be quite honest, I believe that many aussies just don't want to work that hard anymore so have been pursuing less labour intensive careers/employment options.
Interest has probably only really reignited in recent times as the general public are learning that degrees don't often mean big bucks anymore and there has been a lot of speculation? that tradies can earn some decent coin these days.
Add to that all the home renovation type shows in recent decades etc and the tradies' cultural capital has much more value.
we can find 2 million uber drivers that aren't skilled nor needed at all?
I think the stereotype or belief here is that many of those engaged in these positions are short term students looking for flexible casual work limited by visa restrictions.
They're sort of like two minute noodles, so quick and easy to prepare that they're almost instant.
You may not believe that they're "needed", but education is one of our major exports and many on study visas want casual employment to augment their uni studies - so in a way, we really do "need" these positions and they are largely unskilled because they're actually working towards developing other skills and qualifications.
@Muppet Detector: "You may not believe that they're "needed", but education is one of our major exports and many on study visas want casual employment to augment their uni studies - so in a way, we really do "need" these positions and they are largely unskilled because they're actually working towards developing other skills and qualifications."
Actually, they are supposed to be limited to 20 hours per week in normal employment while on a study visa (or is it 38 per fortnight, whatever). But being on an ABN instead of properly employed when driving uber they are skirting around that limitation already. Technically they aren't breaking a rule of course! But it is dishonest / working the system at best, because they are not really running a business and they are working just as much as the 7-11 employee doing only 20 hours it. They are largely supposed to have enough money and the limited work is supposed to be more of a pocket money bonus.
They are largely supposed to have enough money and the limited work is supposed to be more of a pocket money bonus.
They only need to be able to support themselves for the first year, hence why they're allowed to work up to 48 hours per fortnight. This includes only needing to show they can pay first year's tuition and accomodation.
(According to Google - I did have to do that because I thought that international students were (among other things) supposed to be completely funded or similar for their entire stay to receive the visa. Was also researching when non citizens got access to things such as Medicare etc as well. I just never knew this stuff.
But being on an ABN instead of properly employed when driving uber they are skirting around that limitation already. Technically they aren't breaking a rule of course! But it is dishonest / working the system at best, because they are not really running a business and they are working just as much as the 7-11 employee doing only 20 hours it.
Umm, you need an ABN if you are operating a business OR conducting a commercial activity.
They're doing nothing wrong or dishonest or working a system or skirting limitations whatever.
It's not a loophole, they're allowed to do it. It is a legitimate income source.
Also consider that they have to provide their own vehicle to do their work, how many 7/11 employees have to do that?
@tenpercent: Matt Rife is a stand up comedian (lots of content on you tube) who's not very politically correct.
Oh apparently an actor on TV and Film too.
Just finished an international tour that included Australia in Jan/Feb.
The following is just my 5c worth
Isn't that supposed to be your 0.5 yuan worth?
They're sort of like two minute noodles, so quick and easy to prepare that they're almost instant.
Great analogy there.
You may not believe that they're "needed", but education is one of our major exports and many on study visas want casual employment to augment their uni studies - so in a way, we really do "need" these positions and they are largely unskilled because they're actually working towards developing other skills and qualifications.
What a load of codswallop lol.
There are too many white people in Australia, including my family!
Ya wot m8?!
Are there too many brown people in India? /s
Are there too many black people in Gambia? /s
Are there too many white people in Ireland? /sThe amount of putrid, repugnant bile I've read in these forums today is absolutely mind blowing.
There are too many white people in Australia, including my family!
If you really think that, then lead by example and do the needful.
Here's some deals on flights: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/cat/travel
I hear one way is a bargain!@tenpercent: 'do the needful' - a while since I've seen that classic
you might need to ask the garment … (government)
@tenpercent: There are too many white people in Australia. There are too many black people everywhere. There are too many people of colors. But there are no humans.
Australia is not the land of any single group. It is the traditional land of Aboriginal peoples. We all live cohesively together. However, when one sees people as coloured, then we have too many people in our eyes.
Immigration is what has ensured Australia is surviving. Without it, some of us would not have what we have around us.
There are too many white people in Australia.
There are too many black people everywhere.
Whaaat? Are you for real?
This just keeps getting worse and worse.@welcomeUniverseWorld: lol australia must be a third world dump then before we started importing people by the millions? This is simply a hack by our useless politicians to keep the artificial economic growth going. The actual living standards are down, not to mention that we are no longer a high trust society we used to be and tribalism means we dont even have one agenda as a nation.
There are too many white people in Australia, including my family!
Gosh.
Feel free to leave at your earliest convenience, you know, help us to even things up a bit…
Don't let the door hit you in the bum on the way out.
However, when one sees people as coloured, then we have too many people in our eyes.
Dude, you're the one talking about black, brown and white people.
Seems like you're the only one focused on skin colour…
You do know that we also get "white immigrants" too, yeah, they're not all home grown.
Where is @MS Paint when you need him? FFS
From what I understand. Just my personal observation.
-Population has exploded there. Can feel very chaotic and disorganised
-Resources are tight and unable to meet demands obviously
-Cleanliness and hygiene are lacking
-Can be very noisy. Pollution is pretty rampantHaving said this, it’s quite hospitable and welcoming. Lot of places to explore especially historically. If you have money you can experience best hotels, resorts, wildlife, snow capped mountains, desert, culture etc.
Sadly corruption, red tape and misplaced priorities are making things worse. Typical bureaucracy.
These are just my main observations. Nothing wrong if someone don’t want to visit India
You seemed to be comparing between living there vs visiting there instead explaining why it's making tourists never want to go back there again.
For example, I will go back to visiting Japan any time but I still don't want to live in Japan.
Despite all that, a lot of people are not aspiring to move out of India because it has more opportunities for career and wealth creation. It's 3rd largest economy in the world with multiple booming sectors, aside from top class education and research..
lol they tom tomed 4th largest (never even said 4th largest) but its actually the 6th largest and even that is meaningless because it not because India is wealthy, its because it population is incredibly high. Per capita its worse than bangladesh and if you take the top few percent out, 90%+ indians have living standards worse than sub saharan africa.
India has the largest emigrant population in the world dude. More Indians leave India compared to any other nationality, and that's just official migration numbers and not including all the 'students' or others on temporary visas which everyone with eyes can see it's significantly more than the emigration numbers.
I wonder if you'll be saying India is a clean country with no pollution problems next.
@studentl0an: 'Largest emigrant population' doesn't say anything unless you compare it as a percentage of the population of a country and compare with the other countries.
@ScribbleSass: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
India is 149th with $2,813USD per capita and is in between Cambodia and Kenya. No wonder so many are leaving.
@studentl0an: This defines the opportunities in the economy. This is what matters, along with the speed of GDP growth.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
GDP by PPP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)
The fastest growing economies among the large ones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_real_GDP_growth_rate
Share of global wealth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_private_wealth
They all are coming here its called opportunity. Britishers went to India for same reason but instead looted the country for 200 years. Indians on the other hand have assimilated here well and contributing to the progress of this country in every possible way. Proud of been from India and to be an Australian.
The more recent Indian immigrants are NOT. Go to any Indian dominated suburb and you have the exact same problems as we had in India. I wonder why
Because they are all economic mercenaries/economic migrants. They don't integrate, don't mix, don't contribute except for the money/tax base.
The problem is when you allow people who only care for themselves and their wealth, they could care less about the community or wellbeing of society.
If you think they 'all' are coming here or going anywhere else, then your maths is very wrong. There are probably more than 1000x people staying back (or prefer to stay back) compared to those who are moving out.
Loved - Tasmania
Would never go back - LoganWould never go back - Logan
Child support worries or arrest warrant related?
yes
Was definitely thinking the same thing. ha ha ha
Next time you're in Hobart check out Bridgewater; will make you wanna move to Logan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIGF4BiB8ck
Skip to 24 ish minutes for burnouts and wheelies next to the cops lmao
Skip to 24 ish minutes for burnouts and wheelies next to the cops lmao
Just an FYI - when you click on 'Share' there is a small clickbox at bottom left that gives you the link for the specific point in the video
@Grunntt: thanks for the tip - and as I usually remove the end ? and the user identifying metadata guff after it in
https://youtu.be/WIGF4BiB8ck?si=x7dCelzc7eRaogSc,in this case, I found that I could keep the 'start at 2 seconds' being the end bit of &t=2s with this cutdown URL -
https://youtu.be/WIGF4BiB8ck&t=2s@tubeidea: I think a good society is a culmination of individual positive effort. The fact they are ripping and tearing their suburb like that and acting in such an antisocial disrespectful manner, then complaining about the state of the suburb being so bad is absolutely bewildering.
@TheBilly: There are definitely issues that need addressing, but the people in the video target innocent people, and that greely guy is as slimy as any politician, had he been born in a better suburb he probably would have become one.
I'd have a lot more sympathy for them if they only robbed politicians and other filth.
Logan - is that another Boganville … ?
Haha, I see what you did there. Initially I thought you meant Bougainville Island PNG which really was Boganville when I was there. I'd never want to return. I loved Canada and the US and would return there in a heartbeat. I mean, small US towns like Lake Placid and many, many more I could mention.
Why not? Just wondering.
Where is Logan?
Logan is south of Brisbane in Queensland. Largest collection of druggos and deadbeats outside of the Gold Coast.
Just watch the 6 o'clock news tomorrow. Usually the third or fourth story is from Logan
Loved USA.
Won't be going back to USA. Not for a while anyway.I love Hawaii, and have been back a few times.
Honolulu has the most ramped-up tourism industry I've ever experienced. You could just book a hotel and flight, turn up, and enjoy what's going on - entertainment in shopping centres and parks, public buses around the island.
Or you can rent a house on Maui and just have a chill holiday exploring beaches and perhaps not see another tourist.
I ignored Hawaii for too long, I am not much of a beach person but even I loved it. Such a great laid-back holiday with great weather. Most relaxed holiday I've ever had, going back again soon. Can't wait.
I'm the same. Not into beaches, also not a fan of touristy holidays, yet I love Hawaii.
I also had a great holiday in Cook Islands, where we lived the island life for a while. It was like Maui, except I don't think we met another tourist during our stay.
The house had coconut trees in the backyard with a husking tool to help ourselves. We fetched water at a little station on the side of the road with everyone else. It was like turning the clock back to a simpler time.
New England in fall is my favourite place on earth; beautiful scenary, gorgeous towns, lots of interesting places to explore, great food options. But won't be back for a while.
'New England in fall' - using the US word 'fall' instead of 'autumn', guess you mean NE USA and not Northern NSW Australia … New England (New_South_Wales)
Better than Old England?
Will need to visit New England one day. Well when Trump is no longer president.
Yep, frickin' gorgeous region. And Boston - frickin' gorgeous city too. For many years it was my dream to live there.
Loved mexico city
Disliked Hawaii
I was mixed on Hawaii, lovely people, and enjoyed the cultural elements, but the airport was nuts each time, and always took hours to get through customs.
Lived a year in Hawaii away from tourists loved it and the hawaiian people so much I cried when I had to leave northern beaches were beautiful and not crowded.
I know the west coast isn't the 'nice coast' and the area is well, not one to leave your car parked… but I love spending time out at Electric beach and Makaha. Swim, dive, get amongst the spinner dolphin pod that cuts across there - and shrimp trucks in empty lots that look like health code violations but taste great.
@quick-dry: I had a great day out on the west coast last time I was in Oahu. Seemed perfectly safe. Like all of the US really, at least the areas you'll visit as a tourist.
Disliked Hawaii
Hawaii is supposed to be very scenic, with beautiful landscapes.
It is.
But the increasing homeless and mentally ill ppl make it less desirable for me.
@Eeples: so like the Gold Coast, then! lol Honestly downtown Honolulu was basically a yankified Goldie.
Disliked Hawaii
Let me guess. Spent all your time in Waikiki with no car? There are places outside Waikiki and even other entire islands!
Loved Japan (regularly go back)
Absolutely HATED France, dirty, rude, scammers and thieves everywhere. Though admittedly it was only Paris I saw.Even the French hate Paris.
15 years ago a French colleague told me to come to France, but to avoid Paris, even back then he said it was a shithole full of rats and scammers.
Loved Italy as well. Plan to spend 2-3 months there after retirement (Also loved India and will go back)
Not many countries I would not go back to, although there are some that are way down on the list meaning that, practically, I will never go back to. Bali and Fiji unless I went to the out reaches (just not a resort person). Happy to stop over for a day or two in Singapore or HK but will never go there specifically
Bali is not a country. And I would also not go back to Fiji for a holiday.
Loved, Croatia
Not go back, Paris specifically. Saw what there was to see, but too crowded, dirty, and too many unscrupulous people targeting tourists.Loved the South Island of NZ especially Lake Tekapo and the glacial lakes of Mt Cook.
Slovenia.Agree - NZ south island is amazing.
South Island another vote, went for a campervan trip, been back 10+ times (albeit like to ski as well) cant beat it, hell even choose to get married in Wanaka
Iceland was pretty incredible too
And Japan, for totally different reasons
I have visited seven countries, and nothing compares to home.
I particularly enjoyed Singapore. I also had positive experiences in the United States, the United Kingdom, and Malaysia.
I have visited India, which was eventful and memorable. I would like to return to experience more of the culture.
I would not return to the United States, as it feels similar to Australia, but on a larger scale.
I don't know why my daughter loves staying in hotels - home is so much better, except the location.
I'm longing to go back to US if the world ever returns to normal. I love the cheap Mexican food and huge desserts with unlimited brewed coffee. It's like a cruise ship, but far better and obviously you can do other stuff besides eat, if you're into that kind of holidaying.
But the coffee is disgusting thin black water sitting in a kettle on the stove the whole day…
I like it. I recently decided I don't like espresso at all. (I regret wasting so much money at cafes and espresso equipment over the years trying to "develop the taste".)
Long black rates near International Roast imo.
While I'm ranting, I have a theory that espresso is only popular because people want frothy-milk drinks, and only espresso has enough strength so you can taste coffee.I haven't tried pour-over yet, but assuming it's good, my preferences would be pour-over > filtered > instant (depending on brand) > espresso > pods > Carnival Cruise machines
I carry a thermos of instant coffee because I like a coffee after meals, but not the crap cafes serve.
Now that I think about it, I need to see if I still have a filter pot lying around, and replace the espresso machine on the kitchen bench.
Never go back?
they said loved, not obsessed over
New York hands down best city I’ve visited
That would be a no from me.
I've visited 40+ countries.
none that I would never go back to as my relatively minor time anywhere doesn't really give the country a chance to grow on me.
love - Japan would be the closest (but I lived there so it's so familiar).Dubai - no soul, everything seems like it’s putting on a show / wearing a filter, spent 3 days here which was 3 too many.
If ever there was a place that demonstrates that money can’t buy you taste or happiness, go to Dubai
Love Japan - people friendly, very clean, so many beautiful things to see. Not just the main sites, but little laneways with lovely gardens. Some great food, but always a hassle for GF food.
Would not return to Morocco. Beautiful scenery but such a contrast between the rich and the poor.It's hard to pick favorites. Some have amazing historical artefacts but you're just another tourist, some are a paradise that hopefully you can enjoy alone.
I reckon every place, like every person, is likely to have something interesting to share if you can find it. You will never experience all that Australia has to offer, let alone the rest of the world.
I would say life is too short to visit the same place twice, but I actually long to revisit many. Reading about everyone's experiences here makes me want to revist those I've been, and try some that I haven't.
Loved - New Zealand ( Lake Tekapo, Milford Sound etc)
Would never go back - Craigieburn,Kalkallo,Epping,Broadmeadows and surrounding suburbs. :)Lived in Melbourne for over 40 years. Had to google Kalkallo.
When I lived there it was a couple of servos on a hill before you got to Melbourne (driving down the Hume) - I expect it is all colourbond new-build ghetto now.
Just checked Gmaps - yep!
We bought our first home there because it was all we could afford outside the eastern suburbs, and ended up living there for about four and a half years. The area felt overcrowded, with very little open space. It was marketed by Stockland as Victoria’s largest master-planned community, but for a long time there was only one road in and out (a second was added later).
Public transport wasn’t much better the V/Line service to the city ran roughly every 45 minutes and was often extremely crowded, with just three carriages. Overall, it was a tough place to live, but we’re relieved we managed to move out about six months ago. Honestly, it didn’t even feel like living in Australia at times.@Hawks33: People will do this because they think they'll have a better quality of life in a home there than in an apartment close to the city. Lesson to all: take the apartment.
Loved Uzbekistan: very cheap, safe, no tourists and friendly people!
Probably would not go back to Sri Lanka: I hated their two tier tourist pricing everywhere!! Eg 30cent entry fee for locals, $33 for foreigners! No kidding.
I've always wanted to go to Sri Lanka for a relaxing holiday (I wouldn't seek to visit India).
That's disappointing that they rip off tourist.
I thought you were exaggerating. Wow! You are not.
I had a quick look- Sigiriya Lion Rock Foreign Adult US$35, Local adults LKR 120 which is USD $0.38
Horton Plains National Park, say USD$40 for Foreigners, and Local Adult LKR 150.
I'm all for having locals pay a lower rate if the the locals are poor, but 100x the price is just taking the mickey.
Exactly, Sigiriya Lion Rock was what I had in mind when I gave the example. I’m not surprised that many other places had such huge discrepancy between foreigners and locals. Should we charge Sri Lankan’s 100 times the entry fee to attractions when they come to Australia!!
…….and that will be AUD$4,950 for the entry to Taronga Zoo without an Australian passport.
Cash or card?
I get that would be super frustrating to see but if you think of it in terms of demand signals it makes sense. The prices for locals is what they can afford to pay and what they is reasonable according to their own prices comparative. The prices for tourists is relative to what we can afford to pay and what we would pay to visit major tourist sites in our own countries. Not only that, the value for what you get in visiting these tourist sites including the history and care that goes towards looking after them provides you with far more value in present terms than what locals would get.
We could increase the prices here but then no one would attend, as no one could afford to pay what's already an expensive cost in a developed country.
We could also think of it in terms of considering the power and economic disparity and inequality that exists historically as a result of colonisation and just how resource trodden they are to have funded the growth and development that we benefit from today in developed countries. The reality is we can afford to pay those prices, and they can't, partially due to this history.
Why do you think they are all coming here