$3000 Cashback on BYD Sealion 5, Sealion 6, Sealion 8 & Shark 6 Premium @ BYD

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Extra $3000 off the cheapest PHEV SUV in Australia. Only $30,990 + ORC. Cheap alternative to the new RAV4 which costs at least $16000 more.

Sealion 6 $39,990 + ORC.

Sealion 8 $53,990 + ORC.

Shark 6 Premium $54,900 + ORC.

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  • Something Something China where iPhones and Teslas come from are bad

    Upvote for bargain

    • I've developed a new admiration for people that drive Toyota's and think they're upper class.

      • Lexus?

        • It was purely naming; nobody would consider Toyota luxury then (and now), so they needed a new name, and that name was found ——- Luxury EXports to the US

          • @TheMindsetTraveller: Unsurprisingly, that name origin is not true.

          • @TheMindsetTraveller: Huh? That makes Luxex not Lexus. It's clearly not where the name comes from

          • @TheMindsetTraveller: Your camry or your regular Toyota obviously isn't a luxury car but Toyota does make luxury models, go to Japan and they've always had luxury models. That's what Lexus was originally, rebadged exports of the flagship Toyotas.

            The Century, the Crown… hard to argue they're not luxury. The tech they had even 20, 30 years ago was downright impressive and some of it first in the world.

      • Made in Japan mate.

        • Toyota is transitioning to using BYD’s batteries and plug in tech

      • BYD wants to become the next Toyota. It might just become the next Toyota.

        The only other Chinese brand I think may rank on par with BYD is Geely, which owns Volvo so knows what they're doing.

        MG, Haval and Chery/Omoda and Deepal? Meh.

        Note I wouldn't buy any pre-2023 BYDs on the used market however, when they're new to the local market and very much learning on the ropes.

        • I bought a pre 2023 BYD and it's been nothing short of excellent. Got it for a song (no pun intended) and doesn't have all the BS bings and bongs and crap that the newer cars have. I basically wanted an EV 2001 Camry Wagon and I got it.

          • @Jackson: So you are saying 2023 BYD is at the level of 2001 Toyota, just EV powered? 😁

            • @goodwillN1: no of course not, but honestly I have no need for 360 camera, self parking, anything that the car does to take control away from me. Give me a chassis with an electric motor and battery strapped to it and an Android screen and I'm happy. Fortunately mine has a very decent range and very fast AC charging so it suits me to a tea

              • @Jackson: What is it? Share some details!
                I need to replace a Mazda 6 wagon in approx 6 months.

                • @hothed: BYD e6, it's a value range vehicle that is made for taxis and ride shares, apparrently BYD is planning on bringing some of the newer ones to Australia eventually since the budget end of the market has been hitting up. The current similar model is the M6 and there is an eMax7 coming out which is even newer. They will both be better equipped than my car

        • They were 2nd highest selling manufacturer in Aus in March- behind only Toyota. They’re well on the way.

        • What about Zeekr?

        • The only other Chinese brand I think may rank on par with BYD is Geely, which owns Volvo so knows what they're doing.

          MG, Haval and Chery/Omoda and Deepal? Meh.

          Chery exported more vehicles than BYD did in April. Saic (MG) were not far behind. Changan (depal) are making the new Mazdas.

          IMO they all know what they are doing.

          I would be wary of brands not running a factory backs distribution here. (which from your list is probably Depal IIRC)

          • @Duff5000: Sales numbers =/= quality or long-term support. BYD doesn't want to debase their brand by getting into a price wars with them, as it's much harder to raise a brand's value than to debase it. But low prices do sell cars, when Toyotas and even Hyundais cost so much more today.

            Anyway they're all big carmakers, but they follow somewhat different strategy books:

            SAIC & MG: They're the "Move fast and break rules" type of carmaker. They're churning out tons of new models at low prices but reliability long-term is suspect - I'm talking stuff like rust. Also don't expect much customer service. It reminds me how they got smashed with the highest EU tariff tier because they were completely uncooperative with the European Commission in their investigations.

            Chery: Less well funded, more scrappy privately-owned automaker. Has big ambitions like Geely, but far less international experience (Geely learnt a lot from Volvo) in terms of customer expectations and support.

            Changan: Lower-tier state-owned automaker that hasn't quite moved on from their JVs with Western carmakers, along with legacy costs from ICE. About the same tier as Great Wall & GAC. It's good enough for Mazda but that doesn't mean they play at the level of BYD, which controls almost the entire vertical supply chain for EVs, from raw materials to batteries and cars.

            The big problem for them is that competition in the Chinese domestic market is killing them, especially for ICE as no one in China want them anymore. And Australia (assuming the Gulf oil crisis doesn't destroy much of the car market) still wants ICE & mild hybrids, along with some cheap EVs. I mean there's a reason why there are so many Havals running around.

            • @safrane: Saying Geely know what they are doing and summing the others up as 'meh' suggested to me you were just thinking they were small time players with NFI what they are doing. I get what you meant now.

              BYD doesn't want to debase their brand by getting into a price wars with them,

              I know they like to say that but their actions seem to often go against it. This deal for instance and more importantly, dont they have the cheapest full ev on sale here? (and its pretty shit).

              The big problem for them is that competition in the Chinese domestic market is killing them,

              The big players do all seem to be rapidly moving to export markets. Chery exports were up 100% year on year, 70% of their total sales. Geely only exported around half the units but that's still almost 250% up YOY.

              • @Duff5000:

                I know they like to say that but their actions seem to often go against it. This deal for instance and more importantly, dont they have the cheapest full ev on sale here? (and its pretty shit).

                They're still selling cars at prices far above what they're selling in China. And all carmakers will make a few shit cars from time to time, just to meet certain price thresholds (e.g. Toyota Echo). Also BYD is thinking of bringing their premium Denza brand over to further segment brand sales, so they're probably a bit less afraid of going further to the value end - Remember the cheapest BYD 'crap' might just be the only BYD many people in SE Asia could afford (And BYD is fairly big in SE Asia, plus Thailand and Indonesia are right-hand drive) so there remains a big market for those cars.

                The big players do all seem to be rapidly moving to export markets. Chery exports were up 100% year on year, 70% of their total sales. Geely only exported around half the units but that's still almost 250% up YOY.

                The Jaecoo 5 is the best selling car in the UK in March.

                IMO price matters a lot in a very expensive new-car market, with high inflation and potentially much higher petrol prices going forward. The problem for the prudent car buyer is that long-term total cost of ownership matters, in addition to servicing and spare parts support, and even with massively long warranties one very much doubts how they can get a car fixed if something does go wrong, hence why the Australian government is demanding these Chinese newcomers maintain a proper parts inventory & distribution network in the country, so routine warranty fixes don't take 6 months due to the lack of parts. Such Western expectations are something Geely knows very well from owning Volvo, but others are learning on the job - Many Chinese car owners don't drive their cars often, because the metro is often faster.

                Still the hope is with EVs is that it has far fewer parts to go wrong, and LFP batteries can take some real punishment - which is why BYD started with electric buses, some of which can be seen in Melb with Volgren bodies. And by that I mean some bus drivers can be very sporty with these electric buses, for example I was on the 220 bus from Sunshine to the CBD and the driver gunned it every chance he got as the bus has massive torque and acceleration with the electric motor, and tries to corner the bus like a sports car even though the bus was on time. I guess it was 8pm and he wanted to use up all the battery that was left.

      • And Tesla

      • Certainly are compared to any BYD

    • Where something is assembled isn't the only thing that determines the quality.

      It's the R&D that goes into it prior. The quality of the materials. The aftermarket support. The experience of the factory selected to perform the assembly. The safety standards of the design.

      Both a Redmi and an iPhone are made in China. But you can't tell me they're the same quality.

      You certainly can argue about value. But just because two things are made in the same country, they are not built to the same standard.

      • Redmi and an iPhone are made in China

        Redmi (so far) allow custom firmware;
        iPhone doesn't.

        iPhones are a pain to use, but stable & consistent, for the plebs.

        West views knowledge as "property", hence "intellectual property" laws came about.

        East views knowledge to flow through, like water…no dams to stop the flow. Something something Bruce Lee said about allowing the mind to be like water.

        No belief in copyright allowed for Windows CDs to be sold on the streets!

        • And Water that doesnt flow stagnates. If no one gets paid for what they create, they stop creating, and then there is no one to copy.

          Like all proverbs there are many that take other sides.

          Like "If you pirate this printing block, your male descendants will become thieves, and your female descendants prostitutes"

          Ah but that inherently is the issue with everything being equal. Lowest common denominator wins…..

          • @RockyRaccoon:

            If no one gets paid for what they create, they stop creating, and then there is no one to copy.

            This is also another deviation between an empathy-, altruistically- driven world and a money- driven world.

            Ideation and 'creations' was from a genuine desire to help another human being.

            Look at the 'open source' movement, and look at how private companies have based their entire corporate business on open source movements, eg. iOS (on BSD), Android (on Linux), Edge / Chrome (on Chromium…which is a mega-corporation sponsored project, like Android/AOSP…but you get the idea), etc.

            If you see the advancements in mathematics, sciences, astronomy…in the historical sense,…we see those civilizations get by without intellectual property laws.

            Then, you hear some stories like Edison or Tesla,…and you see that there was all kinds of 'undocumented thievery' going on too.

        • Of all the quotes Bruce Lee made on intellectual property rights, that one is probably my favourite.

        • Is that why Xiaomi treat my data like it's for other's use, on a scale that would make Google and Facebook blush?

          • @Big L: Five Eyes agreements probably allows all data to be shared between them all anyway, so what's illegal in one country is allowed by another,…so that 'other' helps out with their snooping.

        • and they flow you talking about, is just bruce lee, we are talking about china , china people's value, their way of doing this, their company vision. its almost always just copy copy and minor improve upon, they do need some credit, but never give too much.

          the reason china gets praised so much nowadays is purely ppl in western are disappointed in western themselves, yet none of them moves to china to live. it is always they coming to western world to live.

          I have used both system for more than 10 years now (13 years on andriod, and 15 years on iphone), just like real life, nothing is always better than the other, no point to argue there, we've been thru enough of those.

      • To back up your point with a more pertinent example, Chinese Teslas are better than USA Teslas - mic drop

      • This is a great comment. And for a good example, think about Holden vs Tim Tams

      • You've fallen for Tesla's BS "lol"

        • what BS? I have stated fact. Tesla only make EVs not petrol cars.

          • @kungfuman:

            what BS? I have stated fact. Tesla only make EVs not petrol cars.

            Did you forget the rest of your comment contined more than just "Tesla only make EVs"?

            Didnt occur to you that the BS they were referring to could be…. the rest of your post?

            • @Duff5000: well maybe you should be more specfic next time.

              • @kungfuman:

                well maybe you should be more specfic next time.

                Maybe you should pay some more attention? I'm not the user that said "You've fallen for Tesla's BS "lol""

                really isn't that hard to follow along, its only a couple of comments up.

    • It's the R&D and QC of a company…

    • People who think it's the same are the same people who think fake Birkenstocks are the same, wear fakes, etc thinking it's pretty much 80% and it'll do.

      My Lexus has touches that you won't even know about, there's a reason why we drop $100k+ on a hybrid….. even from within the Toyota camp think it's the same car….

      • Secret squirrel touches? Fancy.

      • My Lexus has touches that you won't even know about,

        Exactly which one/ones?

    • Enjoy your virus

    • Pure cringe there

  • Shame it doesn't include the new seal wagon, but I guess the next round of cashbacks will.

    • BEV tourer when

      • BEV with sliding side door when

      • Zeekr 7GT

        • Same same Denza Z9GT

        • At a quick glance the boot space looks a little constrained.

  • Looks like they are wanting to get their sales figures up before EOFY.
    One of the requirements is that you not only have to order before 29th June, but you have to take delivery by 30th June.
    I hope they have a few on the boat already, because if you place an order now and it hasn't been dispatched from China yet, it might be cutting things fine.

    • It's normal EOFY sales really. Given they have publicly stated they have 30,000 cars being shipped in May and June they likely will.

    • Clearly it's an excess stock deal on the less popular models.

      • EV’s sold themselves the past month. But the PHEVs might be interesting since unleaded prices seem to be lower than pre-war - and without the annoying fuel price cycling.

        • Sydney starting fuel price up cycling in the past few days. Fill up.

        • The full fuel excise comes back 1st July so prices will jump 26c or so

      • So they sold 7700 cars in April.

        And Toyota sold 15,000 cars in the same month.

        Good on BYD for getting that popular, but still has a fair way to go.

        • Too fast expansion is not good as they need to build their supply chain, service centres, spare parts warehouses, dealers, etc. So they have done pretty good in a matter of couple of years to be No#2. Toyota has been here for decades.

          • @huntabargain: That has been my worry with BYD locally. Becoming a victim of their own success.

            They will get there but is the service network ready now to be the number 2 selling brand?

            • @Duff5000: I read some statement from their GM, acknowledge they need to work /do more on these issue, so at least hopefully will improve in time.

  • I am looking for a PHEV car, but I’m not sure whether to choose the Tiggo 7 Super Hybrid Urban (driveaway from $34,990, fuel consumption 1.4L/100km combined) or the BYD Sealion 5 (combined fuel consumption 4.5L/100km).

    • 4.5L is when charge <25%

    • 0L/100km on ther EV bit

    • Fuel consumption ratings on a PHEV are useless, I don't care how they are labelled.
      Just find out what it uses when SOC is depleted and work backwards from there on battery only range, your ability to charge for free or near-free at home and your daily km.

      • agree with this.

        • The way they are marketed with the stickers is like they have miraculously made the most efficient combustion engine ever seen, moving a heavy vehicle around with an undersized engine, at 1.5L/100.

      • Spot on. EV range matters first, for most people their daily commute is within it.

        From there, it depends on the other variables between the two cars. People are so hell bent on fuel economy it's a little strange. Many who do less than 10,000kms a year.

        • yeah, for 10k, you can just buy whatever car. Not that much of a difference. For ride share or high users >20k etc, it will add up quickly.

    • What is their EV only range? How does that compare to your daily commute?

      Our PHEV does about 65km on EV only. We rarely use any fuel at all so fuel efficiency is basically irrelevant.

      (On average we use around $10 of petrol a month)

      If 90% of your days are covered by EV range then i would go by the other aspects of the cars. How it drives, where the service locations are, how much to service over 5 years, warranty length and so on.

  • Only $30,990 + ORC. Cheap alternative to the new RAV4 which costs at least $16000 more.

    Actually, if you're comparing apples and apples, the cheapest RAV4 PHEV is $58840 plus ORC, in XSE trim. So nearly $28K more.

    • The Toyota fanboys will still use depreciation to justify an extra $28k 😂

      • Just negative gear it.

        • Rather dangerous to drive in reverse all the time

          • @justtoreply: Don't worry, electric motors can drive as fast forward as backwards.

      • Comment coming from someone who thinks Lexus is the same as a Toyota….. I don't spend pretty much double this car for no reason…..

    • Yikes. The Japanese gov should be subsidising Toyota more to win the battle like China is.

      Mind you Toyota isn’t vertically integrated in terms of supply chain. BYD is vertically integrated for lithium mining, refinement and battery production.

      China is way ahead of the curve.

      • The can't because the new Japanese PM think it's a good idea to subsidising Trump family and friends.

        Like it or not this Chinese car give a wake up call to all legacy car maker who think they can jack up their car price.

      • even more than that too. They build and own their own ships, they make their own semiconductors and manufacture most of their own parts internally too. They're one of the most vertically integrated companies in the world.

    • Also, the range on the Rav4 is only about 100km.

  • I think this has been running a while now and it’s cashback only if you buy cash, not financed

    • They were running it in late April (my FIL put a deposit on an SL6), but it "ended" on 30th April. Looks like they are making an extension of the same offer rather than doing something different in the lead up to EOFY.

    • Finance has an ongoing 5% discounted NL price across the board.

  • oh,,,sad…

    bought Sealion 08 too early in March
    and now missed out on this cashback.

    • And it makes your Sealion even less valuable to resell.

      (Same for any car that reduces its original sale price)

    • How do you find it? What trim level did you opt for?

      • I'm very happy with it. Compared to my previous 7-year-old car, it's a huge upgrade.
        I selected the highest level

        • Nice one!

        • How many times have you scraped it so far ?

          They’re whales not sealions. :)

          You sure do get a lot of car - literally and figuratively - for your $.

          Very questionable reliability for sure, but great if you’re a one car family and need the range.

          • @boirganz: I've only driven a bit over 1,000 km in around two months, so I haven't scraped it yet.
            My previous car was an SUV as well.

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