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Sizes from US M7/W8 to US M13/W14.
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Cloudfoam midsole
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Weight: 286 grams (size UK 8.5)
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Midsole drop: 10 mm (heel: 29.2 mm / forefoot: 19.2 mm)
Midsole drop: 10 mm (heel: 29.2 mm / forefoot: 19.2 mm)
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But theyr'e green and that ryhmes?
Just in case anyone asks…these are pretty good shoes for a cheap pair of walking/gym (ex squat/DLs) and all round casual shoes, if you dont mind the aesthetics. For running, if you are doing short distances (2-3km) or just as warm up on the treadmill then they are fine but you can get much better shoes, albeit for more $$. Good for wider feet. Basically - if you are into or want to get into running, dont buy these. If you want a fairly cheap general use shoe then then are great value.
Minimalist shoes force you to learn correct form. Humans evolved to be able to run without giant marshmallows on our feed. We only need small amount of padding to counter running on concrete.
Of course this only applies if you can shake heel strike form that shoe manufacturer love to encourage because it means you need fancy shoes to counter the incorrect form.
I've got falling arches and wide feet, as well as knee pain. If I go minimalist, I just don't run.
Humans also didn't evolve to sit at a desk all day and stress about emails, but we live in the modern world and sometimes I need marshmallow shoes to actually get the exercise I need.
Just logged in to say the same thing haha. "Minimalist" and barefoot running is all well and good for spritely youths and those blessed with injury-free lives, however for myself - and clearly others - due to knee injuries (and missing cartilidge) and just general wear and tear from being active over a number of years, I need the cushioning nowadays! Otherwise I'll run once, and not be able to run for another week or so (and be in varying degrees of pain in between).
@bdo207: I almost had to give up on running due to knee issues my entire life. Then I switched to forefoot striking thanks to minimalist running. My calves hurt for a month or so until they got stronger. Never had knee problems again.
Not a physio. Just my experience.
@PainToad: What knee issues have you had? Ever torn ACL/MCL? Knee reconstruction?
Genuine questions, just trying to understand what problems you had and what can potentially be overcome vs not.
@bdo207: No nothing that extreme. Could it had let to that if I didn't change to minimalist running? I'll never know thankfully. Was knee pain and my knee randomly giving out while walking. Was seeing a physio that didn't really help.
@PainToad: Ah ok. I've done my ACL twice and had the reconstruction surgery the first time. I don't think I have a lot of cartilage left in there, and that's at least part of the reason for my pain. So unfortunately I don't think minimalist footware and technique changes will help me much :(
@PainToad: It’s like everyone is different and what works for someone doesn’t mean it works for others. Amazing isn’t it how everyone isn’t exactly the same living the exact same lives
@PainToad: Yes but your initial comment also says “ We only need small amount of padding to counter running on concrete” - meaning everyone needs the same amount (lack) of padding.
Then you go on to imply it’s the manufacturers who are encouraging people to run “wrong” - meaning there is a “right” way to run that is the same for everyone.
@illusion99: I stand by that.
If big shoe companies didn't spend the last 40 years selling people marshmallow shoes that encouraged them to run with poor form, then maybe people wouldn't now be depended on them due to past injuries from never running how we were intended to. Obviously some people are born with certain issue. But I'm talking generally.
But I got no way to back that belief up. So no point arguing it. Use what shoes work for you now.
@PainToad: You're just making stuff up at this point. The top runners in the world are using high stack shoes and are continually setting new records. Claiming they have poor form is laughable. To be honest, there is not such thing as a universal "good" running form, everyone is different.
The simple reason high stack shoes have been continually developed and refined is that they sell well. And why do they sell well? They allow people to run further and faster than was possible with less cushioned alternatives.
@Tr0jan: Or do the top runners wear them because they're paid sponsorship? And do they sell well because people see top runners wearing them?
@PainToad: No, they wear them to go faster and set records. See the sub-2:00 marathon at London this year. If minimalist shoes were faster, that's what the elites would be using.
@Tr0jan: So you believe records are broken because of shoe padding getting thicker?
Never said minimalist shoes were faster. I said minimalist shoes encourage proper form. There's nothing stopping a professional from doing correct form in the clown shoes. I'm saying for an average joe they're less likely to learn correct form in them.
@PainToad: Absolutely the records are being broken due to the thicker padding with carbon plating allowing more energy return and thus more efficiency. Plus the elites being able to run further distances each week than was otherwise possible with less padded shoes.
Also, there is no such thing as "correct" form. What form works for you will differ for what works for me which will differ from what works for somebody else.
Here's an idea: don't run. It's boring and bad for your knees.
This is interesting, thanks - have heard this before but not looked into it.
Do you have any reading for further understanding of this?
Are there particular manufacturers / models that align to this concept?
Do you have any reading for further understanding of this?
https://www.amazon.com.au/Born-Run-hidden-ultra-runners-grea…
Are there particular manufacturers / models that align to this concept?
On the extreme end of the scale https://barefootinc.com.au/collections/road-running-mens/pro…
Nike Free Run range a better introduction. Unfortunately there's a lot less options now compared to the 2010s when the barefoot running trend was popular. Zoomers seem to like moon boot shoes.
Have a look at the book "older yet faster"
the minimalist vs protective debate has been ongoing for years and there is no evidence that minimalist shoes offer any greater protection or better running mechanics over any other kind of shoe (not that the ones in this post are minimalist). There is arguably a reason why, after minimalism was huge in the early 2000s, everyone has gone to the other end of the spectrum - and its not 'fashion'.
Not to say you need a 45mm stack, but you probably dont want a 2mm stack and 0 drop either
Also about 85% of people are natural heel strikers. The argument that forefoot strike is 'natural' is not supported by any evidence.
All that said, try different shoes and figure out what works for you. Everyone is different
no evidence that minimalist shoes offer any greater protection
Of course not. That's the entire point. There's less protection, so you actually feel your poor form and can adjust. You're not masking the problem.
and its not 'fashion'
Questionable. I think it's a Zoomer trend of "comfort" over style. The same generation who wear PJs to the shops and Crocks to work. Looking daggy to be comfortable is trendy. So ridiculous looking high shoes are cool because they look comfortable.
@dtc: Thanks, I remember that trend.
Must be some scientific reviews after all these years to see whether it's worth testing in my case.
Unfortunately very few cave art illustrations remain detailing early human physio visits and knee replacement rates.
Barefoot running is based on a book about the Tarahumara tribe who exists today. No cave art needed. But nice attempt at a joke to mock something you don't really know about.
Even better than minimalist shoes is going actually barefoot. I've done both, and while barefoot has a long transition period, you'll be getting pain and blisters if your form is bad (blisters in particular; minimal shoes mask horizontal shear forces)
I'm not that hardcore. But if it works for you.
@PainToad: It's not particularly hardcore. Just start a little at a time. Seriously does wonders for your form (even more than minimalist shoes)
i bought a chinese branded running shoe for abuot the same price… wish me luck.
What brand was it
叉子
Dafuq?
No, mine are branded X tep
Fork?
Good shoes but requires research. I have 4 pairs of shoes from Chinese brands and have been very happy with all of them.
will these shoes be good to play tennis with? looking for a cheapie pair of tennis shoes
Tennis shoes are designed to provide lateral (side to side) support, whereas running shoes are designed to go straight without any side to side movement. I suspect for this shoe, if you take a shot and move back to centre court, your outer foot will roll out the side. It might be ok but could well be continual ankle rolls and sprains. I wouldnt risk it.
People used to play in dunlop volleys so its not like you need a huge amount of side support, but volleys dont have a high stack/sole which creates lateral instability.
If you want a good budget tennis shoe, try the Decathlon Artengo range. The TS500 looks to be on sale at the moment, limited sizes but if any fit then a great deal decathlon
These shoes are barely decent for walking let alone tennis
Noooo you will trip over don't buy for tennis
I bought the black as part of the previous deal for $38. As others said if you need a general shoe, these work fine
But for literally anything else they're terrible. They're really hard, with not much give. It feels like im wearing two bricks.
I have a pair of original runfalcons bought for a similar price.
Can confirm they are bricks. I use them for lawn mowing and walking the dogs and they are fine for that.
Would not want to do any serious exercise in them.
They are 2 years old now and pretty worn out. I think I'll buy a new pair.
Run!…. away from these shoes! 😬
These… Are disgusting to look at.
Good price though.
These look difficult to keep clean.