Seeking advice to build a gaming PC

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  Ventak on 15/11/2013 - 11:23

  Considering I'm in the process of getting my own PC, I'm wondering where it's appropriate to get liquid cooling.

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    s00107546 on 15/11/2013 - 11:28

    my friend got all his parts from mwave, but MSY maybe another option.

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      Ventak on 15/11/2013 - 11:53

      Whoops, guess you interpreted me wrongly…I meant like, when is it worth getting liquid cooling?

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        abbztract on 18/11/2013 - 07:55

        If your system is going to be getting hot, go for water. Very hot: Liquid Nitrogen. Just warm. Air cooling. Air coolers such as Noctua's NH-d14 rival many watercooling setups. Their only drawback is the size and noise.

        Essentially it comes down to exactly what you want. Noise and size are the major drawbacks of large coolers and this is where the water cooling comes in. More open space means the air circulation isn't hampered either. Plus it looks better.

        Cost is another factor you need to keep in mind. Watercooling can cost quite a bit for custom loops.

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  _Bruce_ on 15/11/2013 - 12:53

  +4

  H87 motherboard is not for overclocking so:

  Option 1:
  Get a non 'K' series CPU. Drop the water cooling. Save lots of money and effort, gain reliability and loss a small fraction of performance.

  Option 2:
  Pay more for a Z87 motherboard.

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    s00107546 on 15/11/2013 - 16:06

    i may change the mobo then. But i would like to have the overclock option.

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  exit on 15/11/2013 - 15:43

  +1

  You can save money on all the parts by buying second hand of ebay.lol

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    s00107546 on 15/11/2013 - 16:05

    lol good one

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      exit on 19/11/2013 - 17:13

      I was serious tho

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  donkeydoc on 15/11/2013 - 16:17

  +2

  everything is overkill tbh,

  assuming your monitor is 1080p you'll only need the following to get 80 frames:

  CPU: Intel Core i5 4670 - $243 http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=10808
  MOBO: Asus B85M - $88 http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=11034
  RAM: G.Skill 8GB 1600 - $84 http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=9824
  Graphics: Gigabyte R928XOC-3GD 3GB R9-280X $385 http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=11662
  HDD: Seagate 2TB Barracuda 3.5” 7200RPM SATA3 Hard Drive - $95 http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8876
  SSD: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" SATA III SSD - $104 http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=11451
  PSU: Antec Neo Eco 620C 80Plus Bronze 620W $85 http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=10243
  CASE: Thermaltake Commander MS III - $58 http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8960
  OS: Windows 7 (you get 2-3 more frames in most games over Windows 8.1)$108 http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=5821

  MSY assembly is $70 i think

  You'll need a DVD burner at least, no real need for blu-ray reader even let alone burner, DVD burner $20-25, Blu ray reader around $55, blue ray burner around $80

  The i5 is overkill for gaming anyway let alone overclocking it, so with the 4670 you wont need a h87. That motherboard from Asus allows up to 4 ram slots, has USB 3.0 front end connection for your case too. The RAM is great too, if you want to pay more for the same performance up to you, some ppl get Ripjaws for the red lol.

  The graphics card is probably the best value card bar any specials IMO, base core speed 1000 Mhz, boosted to 1100 Mhz, Gigabyte has arguably the best cooling system, you'd have to spend an extra $40 to get a better card.

  Case is no big deal but the Thermaltake Commander is decent with good wire management, you'd want extra 4 fans though, around $20 more.

  The SSD is the best value on the market, but you'll have to confirm availability, they're usually low or out of stock.

  What about peripherals? mouse/keyboard? This system would only be worthwhile on a 24" or 27" 1080p monitor, you can get 1 for around $250. Shoppingexpress has a sale on the AOC IPS 27" for $275 + delivery ($12 for me), IPS is much better than your regular Tn monitors. http://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/aoc-i2757fh-27-inch-ip…

  @1440p, a friend of mine was only getting 40 frames in BF4 in ultra settings, 1080p more than enough :)

  Building a system myself atm haha

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    _Bruce_ on 15/11/2013 - 16:37

    +3

    The SSD is the best value on the market, but you'll have to confirm availability, they're usually low or out of stock.

    I'd argue the 250 is better value. For only $78 more you more than double your storage and can put all your current games on the SSD. This will be much better than spending money on almost anything else.

    As to your other points, I agree, but it seems impossible to stop people spending too much money on shiny over specced hardware.

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      donkeydoc on 15/11/2013 - 17:12

      yep 250gb would be better value, i think the savings from my suggestions would allow for ssd 250gb + leftover cash :P

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    s00107546 on 15/11/2013 - 22:32

    thanks mate