Kogan have reduced their 27" display down to the previously seen sale price of $399.00 for Click Frenzy.
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Not bad for a mid tier gaming display for anyone looking to step up from 1080p.
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God I would hate to have a dead pixel on that thing.
Kogan + "cheap" Korean panel = hell.
If LG screens are made in Korea then perhaps. Not sure how 'cheap' they are. They are supposed to be the same screens used in 27" iMacs which are considered very good.
they use rejected panels
Reject is a bit misleading, reminds me of the john west ad claiming they have the best tuna, Its all cheap nasty non export Vietnamese tuna thats only good enough for cans.
Source please.
Here is some info on the actual panels they use
http://www.panelook.com/LM270WQ1-SDE5_LG%20Display_27.0_LCM_…
Got an always on green pixel on my recent 27 from Kogan.
What's with the Apple laptop in front of it and on the Kogan's screen?
Perhaps to sucker in the same sheep that buy Apple products after seeing them on a commercial on TV? Perceived coolness by association for this monitor?
Surely the suckers that buy cheap kogan products aren't as stupid as the suckers who buy apple products?
It's the same people who compares rrps and never bother asking "what's the catch?".
My guess would be they did it purely to show that you can use the display to extend a laptop to a large screen. Guess they used an Apple cause they look appealing.
Note that it is something like a 3 or 5 dead pixel warranty (Asked on their facebook page), not a zero pixel as with the dell, which is also on sale at the moment
They use the same panel, a LG no? Unless things have changed, Dell puts on polarising and other anti glare filters onto the LG panel and puts a scaler inside also. To those who plan on using it for colour grading or other intensive task where colour is very important, it's much better to not get the Dell as the filters add a 'shimmer' to solid colours. There are tutorials online of people removing the filters, voiding their warranty, and being much happier with the result without the filters.
if I could be guaranteed no dead pixels I would chose this or other 27" over the Dell any day of the week. The Dell also has a scaler which adds input lag even on "game mode" which would put some people off.
Got 2 crossover monitors from korea already. One had a black pixel and the other was perfect, so I guess I'm somewhat lucky.
Pixel pitch on 27" is so tiny, dirt particles are actually more noticeable than a dead pixel. Might be a different story if it was stuck on one of the primary colors.
Reports say the new 2713hm has a less aggressive AG coat. But a wet towel + 2 hours is enough to remove the AG coating along with the warranty on dells (maybe even the polarising filter if unlucky).
That's a good point about the 2713hm. I haven't seen one in person but at work I use the 24" and the AG coating is very noticeable. I also considered the 27" a few years ago but after using one in person I ended up getting a 27" iMac to use primarily as a monitor over mDP for my PC. At the time there were no Korean 2560x1440 monitors so it was actually a much cheaper option at the time to get an iMac.
As the iMac doesn't have a scaler on the mDP input, there's 0 input lag.
I ended up 'converting' to OSX as my daily driver OS shortly after getting an iMac after being a bit on the anti-Apple bandwagon, my LAN gaming mates were not amused, but then they ended up getting MBPs and iMacs for themselves.
But yeah, I should stop bad mouthing previous Dell monitors until I use the 2713hm in person to see what the AG coating is like and what the input lag is.
If it's purely for gaming, then a $350 korean monitor + Overlord OC PCB would be king for under $600. 1440p at 96-120hz is just no joke at that price. OFC you have to factor in pixel deficiencies and lack of warranties.
For professional use, I think Dell would be a better choice. Their returns and after sales support is top notch, and their monitors come out of the box calibrated.
Can't comment on the input lag, I had the 2311 before and didn't find any issues with fps games on ps3 and pc via hdmi. But then again I don't see a difference between gaming mouses with ridiculous dpi's and an MX Rev 950x.
No idea what panel they use. I have a Samsung PLS 27", and it does look better than the Dell 24" I use at work. Many people go on about the anti glare coating on the Dells, but end of the day your eyes will not fall out, and it will only really matter if you are doing design proofs in print, where color matching is required.
All of the "independent media reviews" for this monitor seem to be paid advertisements (or the same review posted in 5 places)?
http://www.kogan.com/au/buy/kogan-27-cinema-display-2560x144…
http://media.kogan.com/files/newsroom/attachments/20130626_-daily_telegraph-eofy_top_tech_buys.pdf
http://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/end-of-financial-y…
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/end-of-financial-year-t…
http://media.kogan.com/files/newsroom/attachments/20130626-courier_mail-eofy.pdf
http://media.kogan.com/files/newsroom/attachments/20130626_-herald_sun-_eofy.pdf
Here is some more balanced feedback from recent users
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2004542
Just not that this seems to be a different model… the one I got even seems to have some sort of infra-red or light sensor on the front of it.. if physically looks exactly like a Crossover monitor.
Kogan are 'green' and don't ship a manual and when I got mine I couldn't fine one on their site for the new model (or one for crossover monitors online either). Not that it difficult to operate - but that sensor has me very curious.
2560x1440
As far as I know no hdmi connection supports that resolution. You need a specific graphic card that supports Dual-Link DVI, otherwise this monitor is basically same as any other 27" 1920x1080 monitors which are about $250.
HMDI 1.3 (standard on GPUs the last year, but always important to check) allows 2560x1440 and greater over HDMI.
This Kogan monitor has display port input which has a greater bandwidth than HDMI, also carries audio, has a much smaller connector and is very common on the last few generations of GPUs.
Displayport should have been the way of the future, as it's better AND open source so manufactures don't have to pay a licensing fee, but if it hasn't happened by now then it won't happen until something takes over HDMI and Displayport.
DisplayPort does I believe.
Me and my mates all have the Korean monitors you see on eBay (I have a QNIX, mate has 2 QNIX monitors and another mate has a Shimian) and I am the only person to have 1, just one, stuck pixel.
Well worth the money. Can't even notice it.
Yep. The pixel density on a 2560x1440 is so small, a speck of dirt would be more noticeable.
I had a panic attack when I first went over my monitor closely on a black screen on max brightness.
Every spec of dust looked like a stuck pixel.
I ended up finding 3, two hardly noticeable and 1 that stuck out (on black). I ran a pixel unsticker overnight (only flashes the actual pixels) and it seems to have completely removed the unnoticeable ones and made the bright one less obnoxious.
do the qnix's overclock to 120hz? i'm thinking of getting one
The idea is to test what rate your monitor will handle, starting at 70hz, 80hz, 90hz, and so on.
A lot of people have gotten it to 120hz, but it varies through luck of the draw. You might get it to 100-120hz in the end.
The ones on ebay do have a 1 year warranty, but I have not heard of any stories from people trying to claim it.
Your milage may vary.
The QNIX is a gamble, do not be surprised if you have 5 dead pixels, backlight bleed and a monitor that can't overclock to 61hz without frameskipping.
My QX2710 had 3 stuck pixels (only on black), no bleed and I'm still working out the overclock on mine, but I can run it at 120hz with only 1 in 20 frames skipping (effectively 114hz)?
Ideally you want no frame-skip, because it normally comes with artifacting.
I just read this:
"If you reach the limits of what the cable can handle, you will start seeing artifacts like flickering lines or colored pixels."
Do you think the limitation might be due to the dl-dvi-d cable?
Does the display port model also vary in ability to hit 120hz?
Seeing as Kogan may net you a dodgy panel anyway, you may as well try your hand on a QNIX QX2710.
They utilise DL-DVI-D and allow an overclock of up to 120hz (some even going beyond) at the 1440p resolution, which also yields a faster response rate (nearing 4ms if I recall).
They are also brilliant panels (if you overlook the defects).
I got mine for just over $315 last week delivered express, it's awesome.
Which seller?
Yes, which seller?
$315 for 120hz IPS 2560x1440 is impulse buy territory for me.
It's going to take a lot of self control on my behalf to not hit the buy it now button.
it's PLS not IPS btw, colors would look closer to oleds (obviously not as exxagerated)
Just in case someone missed it, you can get a 39-Inch 4k Ultra HD LED TV (3840 x 2160) for $613 USD delivered from amazon from this deal. http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/123081
It is only 30hz @ 4k resolution though.