Dishonest Smith Electronics (DSE.com.au) - Are We All Fed up?

Ok. My first forum post. I need to get off my chest my 'experience' with DSE in the past few days and weeks, but first my last two days.

Here is the sequence of dodgy events:

  1. Mon 29 Sept 2014, tried to buy a $10 gift card for $5 with the 10FOR5 code. Code worked well, plenty of 'stock'. Now I say 'stock' because its a gift card, which is a token for credit, the same way paper money which has limited physical production value, as opposed to gold or silver.
  2. Ordered processed via credit card with my account, same as previous order the day before for a different product. Note my credit cards are never over credit or bad rating etc.
  3. Emailed received showing purchase and general details etc.
  4. Got second email rejecting my purchase dut to 'Unverified Credit Card details' stating that a refund will be in progress but that I am able to call and do direct debit if i like.
  5. I call for the direct debit option. Got through straight away Tuesday morning around 9am and the last started to refuse my option for paying over the phone but eventually agreed to the direct debit option, as offered in the email. She said an email will be sent out with the direct debit details immediately.
  6. Four hours later and no email, i called back. Different lady told me that Maggie, the original lady, forgot to send the email and they were sorry. She will send it now immediately.
  7. An hour late and no email so I tried calling back. Was hung up by the system phone 5 times in a space of 20 min or redials.
  8. Feed up, I sent an email to DSE online contact us telling them I was filing a complaint with the ACCC over their actions based on the ACCC information of misleading customers to deals and promotions.
  9. Within 5 minutes of submitting my online complaint I received three phone calls from DSE outbound only phone number (i.e. you can't call them back on that number). I missed the first two calls but on answering the third call I was told that my order was ORIGINALLY cancelled due to lack of stock. A gift card, lack of stock. I then asked why I was given all these excuses about 'unverified' credit card details if lack of stock was the real reason (even though i purchased almost immediately when gift card token was available. She had no response other than the usual 'We are sorry we cannot fulfil your order'.
  10. This morning, Wed Oct 1, another sale for the gift cards came online. But if there is no stock then how can you sell them?
  11. Post this on OzBargain.

Two weeks ago same thing happen to me with two other deals on DSE where there was stock when advertised then later rejected by various excuses(id like to call them lies but gut feeling isn't enough to go on).

Im hearing a lot of similar things happening on here from a lot of different people. Please post your experiences below.

EDIT: Here is their direct number 02 9642 9100. Call and give them some feedback. I think its worth it while.

EDIT: Another number that may help 1300366644

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Comments

  • +1

    They just have the most incompetent people working there.

    It has to be Dick Smith as a whole, because I bet there is very bad communication between the:
    - customer service department,
    - department that organises the sale,
    - department that runs the website,
    - complaints department.

    On the complaints department, they should have the authority to sort the problem out RIGHT then, not have to handball it to someone who can rectify the issue.

    It seems like the complaints team are merely the funnel to sort out the complaints into different managers/areas. Or giuve a generic response.

  • +4

    I've had a few terrible experiences on the eBay store and some reasonable experiences from the website.

    Their response to eBay messages is abysmal and usually 1week+ for even the most cursory reply. Their Facebook staff is much better and much less likely to get cut off from than their phone service.

    The worst I experienced was a TV that they only got around to informing me was out of stock a fortnight after they received payment. I kicked up a bit of a fuss as I'd seen it instock in stores a week after my order, and because later-buyers on eBay were leaving feedback indicating delivery.

    Eventually they sent two to me. Astonishingly, I was berated by their online stuff for not knowing what I was talking about when I took the honest route and alerted them to this fact. Being abused for saving them $600 worth of goods they had no record of dispatching me is a new low in customer service, and I certainly would be reluctant to do the decent thing if it happened again.

  • +2

    Why are there so many 'complaining' topics hitting the front page?

    Why does everyone complain so much and go threatening with this and that? What kind of job do these people have? Have you never had anyone complain to you? Things happen, they did their best to accommodate you so why do you want to take it further? ACCC and the like probably don't have time to listen to you and have better things to do then worry about your $5.

    Recently;
    Complaining over $5 from DSE
    Complaining over parking ticket fine, ticket not displayed
    Complaining over doctor's waiting time
    Complaining over pharmacy choosing their own price

    PS: If I don't like a place or services provided by someone then I just don't go there. Is that so hard to do?

    • +1

      Hear! Hear!

      Yet someone has already negged you twice… WTF?

    • +7

      Are you complaining about there being too many complaints?

    • they did their best to accommodate you

      Did you read CheepCheap's comment? There are countless other examples just like it. Any reasonable person can understand that issues can happen, it's the way you try to fix the situation that counts.

      There is a big difference between outlining a customer service horror story and whinging because the price went up 1% the day before a 20% off sale started or shipping took a day longer than the website said. I wish more people would understand the difference and respect people's right to complain where it's justified.

      PS: If I don't like a place or services provided by someone then I just don't go there. Is that so hard to do?

      Reading about other's bad experiences may help you to avoid that bad experience yourself.

    • +1

      Yeah, be a much more productive world if no one ever complained right?….sarcasm

      Roads would never get fixed, water quality would never be improved, safety recalls would never happen, lives would never be saved….etc blah yada whatever

    • +2

      I haven't been watching my regular tv shows because of these threads. Don't forget about the pro driver.

    • Agree completely.

  • +1

    Dick Smith seem to be very hit miss but I've only had good experiences with them. I ordered the killzone deal from them and received it two days later.

  • +1

    I hope this will turn out for the better but I ordered FIFA 15 for PS4 from them yesterday for $49 and chose to click and collect at Nunawading. Got a call this morning saying they don't have stock to fulfil the order and telling me to go to another store to pick it up, mentioning Doncaster or Box Hill. I needed to go to the apple store today at Doncaster so Dick Smith was on the way.

    Not really knowing how it's meant to work I just went there before however they said that your order is with the store you selected and must have been properly transferred for it to go through (which did not happen to my order). So now I'm going to Nunawading to check out the situation. I'd better get my game or I'm gonna be pissed off for not only wasting my time but (kind of) falsely advertising. I ordered at like 5:01 btw so it had only just apparently started.

    TLDR: bought fifa 15 for ps4 yesterday for click and collect but they're saying there's no stock (yet showed up in the system)

    • Went to Nunawading got the order transferred to Doncaster and just picked it up (even though they said they had no stock lol). Took two trips but managed to get the game.

  • +1

    Dick Smith 8 Sheet Cross Cut Paper Shredder - $64 + $2 delivery: $66 on DSE website and marked as 'that's half price'

    yet, the same product is …..

    Dick Smith 8 Sheet Cross Cut Paper Shredder - $42 + $4.95 delivery: $46.95 (or $37.56 after 20% discount) on their ebay store

    • +2

      Their eBay feedback is poor. I don't touch anyone under 99% positive.
      That, combined with a more competitive marketplace on eBay — much easier to sort by price — perhaps this is why?

    • +1

      And here we go, they've just jacked up the price of the shredder to $84.

  • I have very bad experience dealing with DSE in store and online also. There were two times succeeded with Eneloop deals, the rest is horrible.

    I myself have ignored most of the deals from DSE since then :)

  • +1

    I've only had good experiences with DSE; That being said, I'm not trying to buy 1 cent items that are likely not able to be fulfilled.

  • +1

    Dick may try to entice customers on price alone however in the long run service beats price everytime.

    Lower amounts of loyal repeat customers always wins over higher amounts of "fly by night" bargain hunters :P

  • +1

    Dick Smith and The Good Guys are probably the worst for online purchases and I wouldn't be suprised if their eBay stores are selling 2nds and refurbished items without us knowing, hence why they don't offer extended warranties on them and all 3 purchases I've received have come with imperfections despite them stating they were brand new..

    • +1

      They have to provide suitable warranty by law. Paying for extended warranties is falling for a scam.

  • I am now under the impression that any orders that are actually shipped by DSE are not good bargains…

  • +1

    Sorry to be the "happy chappy" in this crowd but I've had nothing but good experiences with DSE - I also received 4 $10 refunds from the recent pre-order thingy and was done in 3 days. Can't say a bad word.

  • Same thing happened to me with the RC car. Tried charging me over $20 when it was listed as $0.01, then a few minutes after it was taken off. Also, there was a camera accessory pack for $0.01 or something, no stock anywhere. Melbourne, Sydney, Canberra, no stock anywhere.

    I found myself looking at the clearance and promotions categories after not being able to buy the RC car or accessory pack. Just makes me think this is a plot to lead on customers to their website.

  • +2

    For me, the alarm bells start ringing on this: Lots of people reporting 'Unverified Credit Card details' (when there seems to be no apparent reason) and then getting offered a 'direct debit option' instead.
    The rest I put down to incompetence and/or bad management but this…
    Edit: Actually, the sudden lack (and then subsequent re-appearance) of stock is also ringing bells.

    • This happened to me when I ordered an iphone, they cancelled my order due to Unverified Credit Card details, I called up and he told me that my option was to direct debit.

      • What did they say to that?

        • +1

          They emailed me half an hour the order acknowledgement:

          Dear Adam,
          We regret to inform you that with the details you have provided we have been unable to verify that order __________ was placed by the authorised card holder. As such we have chosen to cancel this order.

          Your payment was in a pre-authorisation "held" status with your card provider. Upon cancellation of the order Dick smith has requested that your card provider release these funds back to you. Depending on your financial institution these funds will be available to you in 3 to 5 business days.

          Please note that if you do attempt to place another order via the website unfortunately it will also not be processed.

          If however you wish to proceed with your order & to make payment via an alternative means like Direct Funds Transfer please contact our Online Customer Service Centre on 1300 366 644 during the hours of 9am – 5pm AEST Monday to Friday who would be happy to assist.

          Thank you,

          The Dick Smith Team

          So I called them up, and asked how I could verify that I was the authorised card holder.
          The Customer Service Centre told me that the credit card payment company they use is very strict and maybe my address, or card details etc aren't correct, and that what I can do is direct debit instead, but it will take a few days to clear etc. I told them that I'll order from somewhere else, bye!

  • +1

    The unverified credit card details line is questionable. My click and collect order got cancelled for the "can't validate credit card" response.

    • What issues do DSE have validating cards that no other merchant here in .au or overseas seem to encounter?

    • Assuming there really is an issue validating the card, why don't they create a rule for click and collect that you must take card to store to validate instead of cancelling?

    I usually subscribe to the phrase "never attribute to malice that which can be attributed incompetence" however some comments in this thread and their eBay feedback are cause to reconsider.

    • +1

      Also, do they specify any of these 'validation requirements' anywhere?
      Not that I've seen…

    • They could just use additional security systems like the Westpac 3D Secure in which Westpac will prompt you to confirm the payment is legitimate when you are making the payment online.

      I've worked in eCommerce before, processing incoming orders and first level of fraud prevention, this is how it usually goes.

      If you're a new customers and haven't purchased expensive things before, i.e. laptop, TV, etc.
      This is what they'll check.
      - Listed in White Pages? If not, you're probably getting rejected.
      — Billing AND delivery address matching White Pages?
      - Has the suburb experienced a lot of fraudulent transactions? Charge backs?
      - Poor area? If you live in the western suburbs of Melbourne, no shipping $4K TVs to you without previous orders with the same CC.

    • +2

      The "unverified credit card details" is another way of saying "we are shipping this product to you at a loss and will not be able to commit to your order" without the legal ramifications.

  • -1

    DSE are scum glad people have finally decided to not get sucked into their circus act

  • +3

    Too many disappointed DSE customers, mean more chances for me to buy the items I like on Sunday!!! But seriously, another DSE complaint? Haven't we been OzBargaining long enough to realise these things happen and will continue to happen? Bad customer service, tick! Refund takes forever tick! But who oferred the $399.20 PS4?!!! Dick, Dick, Dick! Look at the positives, than the negatives. It's not like DSE is the only retail store that has price errors! WAKE UP!

    • Agree (countered your neg) I also jumped on the $399 PS4 from DS

  • I'm lucky so far - bought lots cheap and no issues at all (touches wood)

    Though once a paypal order was declined by them, i resubmitted with the same card directly rather than via paypal & it went through…

  • +1

    Just hide all the 'deals' from them. Done.

  • to be honest, of late I've only had good experiences with dick smith. Been able to preorder several games at very cheap prices as well as no trouble when trying to get the $10 pre ordered discount applied.

    • +1

      I'm having massive troubles getting them to do one $10 refund for a preorder atm when another order I did at the same time was refunded straight away! Anyone the same??

  • -2

    Maybe DSE will have a deal on tissues for all the crybabies out there

    • +4

      Good luck getting them…

    • Frankly my dear, you too will give a damn and maybe have a cry if Dick Smith Electronics rips the cash out of your wallet!

  • +1

    Exactly the same thing happened to me awhile back when trying to purchase a 2013 Nexus 7 when they had them on sale. Given multiple bullshit excuses about my debit card information had flagged a system and to check with my bank, after checking with commbank they assured me that nothing had happened on their end and that dicksmith were straight up lying to me. Dicksmith lied through their teeth saying that they no longer had stock while still advertising online that they had stock remaining. Surprise surprise the day the sale ended they had stock everywhere. I have decided to boycott dicksmith and their bullshit ever since.

  • +2

    About 6 months ago I bought something for $1000 when it was on sale. After not hearing anything from them for a month I contacted them and they said it was out of stock and I could either wait or get a refund. I said I'd wait and asked them how long it would be, they said they didn't know. After about a week or so I got an email saying my order had been refunded.

    The most annoying part of this is that I saw the exact same item on sale a couple of weeks after I bought it (before I called them and they said they had no stock) If they really had no stock when I bought it why the hell did they put it on sale again a couple of weeks afterwards?

    It's like they purposely put certain items on sale that have absolutely no stock to make their sales look more impressive.

    I tried complaining to them about this and they didn't seem to care at all. I guess they aren't really concerned with customer service, too busy having "sales".

    I'm not going to boycott them, if something is a massive bargain then I'll probably buy from them again but there's no way I'm ever going to shop with them again if I can get the item elsewhere for the same price or slightly more.

    • My feeling is I won't ever buy online from them ever again, don't care how big the bargain is, but if I see something at a B&M store then I'll grab it because there is a real person to deal with

  • +1

    Earlier this year I ordered a "buy one get one free" box of AA batteries for just under $30.
    $30 for one box of AA cells was expensive, $30 for two was reasonable.
    Only one box arrived. Sure, it was a mistake, so what, just fix it.

    I went through all the waits on the phone to support, I suppose on principle.

    I eventually (but inside 45 days) put in a paypal claim, as I thought this was unfair.

    Here is the catch, in my case: Rather than the paypal claim coming back to say that I could get the
    EXTRA batteries I was promised, The paypal claim came back that I could get my money back if I posted
    the original batteries back to Dick Smith. But that costs more than I save - Australia Post rates are high.

    Score Customer 0, unethical retailer 1.

  • Last time i ordered the UE bluetooth speaker on their website, they said it was going to be delivered. Then after 2 days they cancelled the order saying it was a price error. I went to their facebook page, and asked them about it, it took them about 4 days to tell me that it was a price error. Also they also deleted my message asking them about why DSE is constantly having price error, i also said that JB HiFi would at least honour the price error for few customers.

    DSE really needs to get a new management team.

    • The key to it being a genuine price error, they must withdraw the item from sale. After which they can correct the price and put it back on sale.

      If the same item is constantly marketing at the wrong price, there is a high level of doubt if the error is indeed genuine.

  • +1

    OP this has also happened with me while trying to buy a Macbook during a sale.

    There excuse was the same.
    Credit card came up with fraudulent transaction…

    Item on website was then out of stock.

    I was like WTF credit card is used regularly and always paid in full never pay interest.
    I rang the bank they said that they were the only ones who would determine if the transaction was fraudulent and they never did.
    Person from the bank and I basically determined that DSE was making shit up…

    They said I could pay via direct debit but there process seemed pretty ad hoc and didnt want to proceed with it.

    Ended up getting one during Kogan/ebay sale much cheaper… so screw you DSE!!

    • This happened to me as well. I had a go at their customer complaints supervisor over their insistance of using Direct Deposit. Ended up getting it from the eBay and DWI sale.

  • +3

    Dick Smith is renown this. Do you realise that their system can't even work out what sort of stock levels they have. my mate works for them. this is the dick smith way.

    1) take money from online order immediately
    2) DON'T NOTIFY CUSTOMER IF THERE IS NO STOCK
    3) ONLY WHEN customer rings up (try calling 1300 you won't get through) 02 9642 9100 is the only number you can get through to - DO NOT PRESS ONLINE OPTION YOU WILL GO BACK TO THE MUPPETS IN INDIA
    4) only when you complain they will promise to give you a refund
    5) some dude issues refund MANUALLY!!!
    6) if YOU DON'T COMPLAIN that goods not received they won't EVEN REFUND YOU!!!!!!!!!

    you are right it is totally illegal.

    The Australian consumer law prohibits businesses from misleading consumers. it also prevents them from accepting payment if they do not intend to supply.

    when I first rang the Call Centre today at 9:03 I wastothat they are having issues with Startrack that's why goods getting stolen!!!

    I rang again to be told that the goods didn't even go out.

    now have to wait for refund!

    thieves!!!!

    What can we do to stop them? greedy shareholders - look at their shareholding cos its only shareholders which work in senior management benefit.

    • Thanks for the direct number (02 9642 9100) I will call them up and vent my frustration.

    • Had exact same experience twice in the past. It's ridiculous.

  • -1

    Hey Ozbargain - you must know whats we are talking about you sell their goods too

  • It would be great if DSE were reading this and actually taking our experiences on board… One can only dream

  • Let's just all go on their facebook fan page and post all our lovely comments.

  • i ordered 10$ pioneer headphone from their Ebay account, It was faulty out of the box.
    I contacted 3 times on phone (40 min wait time each), every time they told me refund is processed(lied).
    I was successful to get it last time then left neg review of their Ebay page….

  • +1

    Never been back since they shook a fragile family member around about a stuffed phone

  • +1

    I've had terrible experiences with them and it's an absolute nightmare dealing with them. I did put a negative review detailing the incident on productreview.com.au.

    DSE are on my never again list!

    • Sadly that's what people say until their addiction to Eneloops get the best of them. haha

      • +1

        So true, i swore never again until an eneloop deal came up. I have never had any issues with eneloops but anything else I have bought has always been a pain (about 3 other items).

  • As a good will gesture, they should give you a $5 gift card.

    • Lol. My mate just asked me, what will it take to come back to dse?….."ah hi sir, we would like to offer you two iTunes $20 cards…"…

      • sorry, I don't have an itunes account. But $40 CASH is a good start

    • It's publicly listed so all sorts of people own it and you can go look it up.

      It was held by a private equity group before the stock market listing.

  • +2

    It's like any other site when a good bargain is on servers crash, Myer, cotd, dse, Ebay and more all crash from time to time when you have thousands of people trying to access the same thing. On the service front that's pretty poor service And we shouldn't have to go through all the crap to get refunds and information. Their site definitely needs an upgrade if they insist on having these giftcard deals.

  • +1

    you wasted a lot of time for $5, true bargainer!

    • Lol

  • I am fed up for sure. I went through 2 purchases via DSE website that was not fulfilled for multiple weeks and I had to call them numerous times which was bounced around for days before I was able to get my refund. They made no attempts to contact me at all through that period of time, and I had to "force" it to happen.

    I think their e-commerce system is just ridiculous. No wonder their eBay rating is relatively low for a such a large offline retailer.

  • Still waiting on my gift card…

  • +1

    I bought Pioneer headphones and had crappy blue phillips ones delivered instead.
    Got refund via paypal as goods supplied are nothing like what I ordered and kept their headphones.
    I can play your silly games as well Dick.

    • That is a whole new level of dodgey…

  • Just lodge a complaint with the consumer tribunal in your state/territory. $30 well spent to tie-up a DSE representative for the best part of a day to attend a hearing!!

  • +2

    Dick smith always tell me that their laptops are listed below cost price, even when they are not on sale… I call bs

  • paulsterio, the coward whose time is too valuable to waste replying in forums, but who has unlimited time to defend DSE in online forums. He really needs to start clicking the associated box.

  • -1

    I complained about a bag of rice I bought at woolworths and they never got back to me.

    • Was it too white?

      • Who the cashier?

  • +3

    Here, I penned a letter for you. A great way to get a business to take heed is to start here with a respectful and legitimate complaint letter, get a number of people to sign on (essential for weight), post it to the addressee (MD in this case) and at the same time put it on the social media channels.

    It might seem like a bit like crying over spilled milk, but this stuff is actually valuable to a business to get this feedback as it says there is a problem that a group of people are willing to invest time into. That fact means they should pay attention.

    If you actually are interested in effecting change then you/we can run with it, if not then maybe we're all just blowing off steam.

    The letter would need a bit of work to make sure it captured the issues properly and gives them enough information to find solutions (if they were willing).

    Personally, I really believe in consumer unionisation as I think its essential in concentrated markets.

    Nick Abboud
    DSE CEO and Managing Director
    <<insert address>>

    Dear Mr. Abboud,

    As historically loyal and enthusiastic customers, we are writing to express our disappointment at the recent direction your business has taken.

    Our collective experience of on-line DSE transactions has shown the following repeated occurrences:
    1. Too frequently, our online purchases are unsuccessful through some failure throughout the purchase to delivery process. For us, this has occurred across the online storefront, warehousing and stocking (order fulfillment), and DSE's delivery contractors.
    2. When this occurs, we have found:
    a. Excessive difficulty in contacting support centres through wait times and absence of modern contact services such as call-back or real-time online communication
    b. Lack of interest in resolving our real customer issues through call transfers, conflicting information and communication dead ends
    3. And most importantly, an excessive number of resolution attempts ending suddenly with unexplained refunds.

    The Dick Smith name has long been a trusted and reputable brand in Australia, and it's unfortunate to observe, through our experience of your organisation, that the company is pursuing a low service after-sales strategy not commensurate with our ideas of the brand.

    We understand (DSE 2014 Annual Report) that online sales contribute a small proportion to overall DSE's total retail revenue. Due to our experience, this statistic would not be surprising but your company's position is, given the retail sector's current and projected sales growth through these channels (e.g., PWC, 2012; Ibisworld, 2014). It is apparent through our low customer satisfaction that DSE is not positioned to capitalise on this fundamental market shift.

    As avid consumers in the electronics space, we look forward to DSE addressing these issues and hopefully re-establishing our relationship with your company. Until that time, we regretfully must take our business to other domestic competitors and international sellers.

    Signed,

    Add names, formal letter etc.

  • +4

    Even if we ignore the appalling service some people are receiving, and the failure of their stock and customer service systems, there is still the issue of egregious price hikes (arguably bait and switch) during the recent "20% off" ebay sale. Despite the hysterical whinging of some on this website there are often reasons why prices return to "normal" prior to flat % off sales but we have also seen evidence of what appears to be blatant gouging following enticement. I have a handful of examples which I've asked DSE ebay to explain - so far without luck. This practice is intolerable and in the absence of reasonable explanation on their behalf, likely contravenes consumer law. I'll be following it up.

    • please keep us post.

    • I personally think that ebay shouldn't be promoting dick smith on the basis that they have 96% positive feedback. 96% is an appalling number to be officially supported by ebay.

      • +2

        But ebay are scum, worse than DSE.

  • Dick Smith are not dishonest in my experience, but they certainly stuff up orders way more than most stores which is reflected in their eBay rating.

    Though I have certainly been on the bad end of dick smith incompetence on multiple occasions, last time they accidentally sent me 4 extra copies of titanfall for Xbox one. I kept them because I feel like it is justice for the pain they have caused me in the past.

    Come to think of it they have in some way stuffed up 3 of my last 4 orders from them. Its amazing they find it profitable to run with all the money they must need to spend on correcting stuff ups.

    • -1

      Possibly one of the reasons why their stock numbers are so unreliable - apart from the acknowledged theft from stores ie.

  • I wanted to add this about Dick Smith.

    My partner advised me to put my Forza Horizons 2 order on her CC. Done. The only problem is that I forgot to change the billing address to her name. So I contact them "once the invoice is done we cannot change it…." So I'm thinking great, my order's going to be cancelled because their CC facility wont accept the card details with the wrong name.

    Sure enough, postman turns up on Friday lunch time with Forza.

    Happy I got my game but disappointed CC details could be so easy to forge.

    • Interesting this occurred given how many 'unverified' cancelled orders everyone is experiencing.

    • +1

      This is completely normal. Most Australian banks don't even gather/care about the card name and it's certainly not used for any kind of verification. Neither is cardholder address (that does happen in the US though). I don't know why websites even have a field for cardholder name to be honest - maybe to make users feel safer.

      Visa, Mastercard and Amex don't hold the cardholder responsible for fraudulent transactions anyway - these costs are borne by the merchant or the card issuer.

      Because merchants are often financially responsible if someone uses a stolen card number they often employ their own anti fraud measures (especially for high value easily resaleable items like electronics, the fraud rate is very high). The "we need to verify your credit card" line from DSE, if genuine, wouldn't involve the bank at all - it would just be because the customer hadn't shopped with DSE before with that card and the item was a high fraud item or the details provided flagged something in their internal system.

  • Just a head up, I got a bland page after I pressed 'Place the Order' button. I've never received any order acknowledge email from DSE. But I got Paypal payment confirmation email and my credit card was charged.
    I contacted Dick Smith three times so far and only got a rely from their Facebook team. They said they couldn't find my order, and they advised me to contact Paypal to arrange a refund. I just lodged a dispute. Anyone has dealt with DSE on paypal refund before? Shall I escalate to a claim straightaway?

  • I put in an order over two weeks ago. One component was sent quickly however I am still waiting for two items in the same order. I tried the online form to make a polite enquiry but that has been ignored by DSE.

    I just spent 20 minutes in a phone queue to be told the items are not yet dispatched.

    DSE had a sale yesterday selling the same two items I am waiting for.

    Will avoid DSE and advise others to do the same.

  • I have been vocal about their crappy service in the past but this week I have had two good experiences with DSE. I got a small TV (RRP $399) for $154 delivered from their eBay store. Delivery took only two days. After that I did a click and collect about 10pm one night and had an email about 8:30am next morning to collect. I notice the TV is back to $399 on the eBay store. Why would you purchase a TV at full RRP from eBay?

  • Just got an email from DSE saying that they are not going to process my iTunes cards I bought when the sale was on. No reason given other than a repetitious DSE is refunding you, and thats that.

  • +2

    I thought I'd post my latest experience with Dick Smith .. not good, and I will never buy from them again. I ordered a TV for a birthday present two weeks before I needed it (last weekend), and still hasn't come (now 3 weeks since order).

    1) Ordered a 40" Hitachi TV on 27 Sep. Website stated 'in stock' but delivery only. Ordered and paid with SHIP50 discount code and gift cards, website says order is "awaiting fulfillment".

    2) Waited one week, no TV and no change to order status. Emailed on 4 Oct. Have not received a reply to date.

    3) Called 6 Oct. Was then told that the TV was no longer in stock. WTF. How is something in stock, then not? Order was then changed to a Dick Smith branded TV which was the same price. Waited on the phone for half an hour whilst the order was changed, eventually got told it would get done and would receive a phone call when it was. Never received the call back.

    4) 8 Oct, I called, as the website was still showing "awaiting fulfillment" and the old order item. Was told the system takes 3 - 4 business days to process (WTF).

    5) 10 Oct, receive an email with an invoice attachment. The invoice contains the revised item, says Startrack as the freight company, but no consignment. The email body says the order will be picked and shipped that day. To date, the order on the website has never changed status and contains the old order item.

    6) 16 Oct, still no TV, I call up and have been told it still hasn't been shipped. WTF. When asked when it will be shipped and why it has taken this long, there has been no good reason.

    I am about at the end of my tether with this sorry excuse for a company. Never have I experienced such terrible service, and I've bought a lot of stuff online. I would ask for a refund but have little faith that they would process it properly, the gift cards I used are long gone as they reached a zero balance.

    My point is, avoid Dick Smith online like the plague. Don't trust that their "in stock" items actually are. I'd suggest even click and collect stock levels are wrong. My suggestion (if the price is too good to pass up) is to visit a physical store.

  • I ordered two month ago senheiser in ear earphones. From a OZBargain post. Not delivered, as not in stock. They had the same earphones as ordered, but different color. Did not ship and cancelled.

    Ordered 2 TDK NC-350 earphones, from OZBargain. Delivered was 1 EB-350 earphone. On the phone to them overthe past 3 weeks. I had a courier coming to my dor to pickup the wrong item, but he had no clue where to bring it, so he left again.

    How close is this to "Bait-and-switch" ?

    Also so another "Dirty" trick from DSE. Chocolate Enelop, for 19.95. When I clicked the Link, the price was 49.95. Now I ask, how similar does a "4" look to a "1". How reasonable is 49$ for 8 enelops? I bet they were counting of people being distracted and buying them at the ripoff price. When I went back to the initial screen, it says in a very camouflaged way "Only first 100 customers".

    It seems to me that DS is becoming an Indian Market !!!!

    • +1

      It's not "bait and switch". Look up what that actually means.

      It's just incompetence.

      As for the link "changing" from $19.95 to $49.95, they can't be held responsible for someone claiming something was $19.95 elsewhere and linking to it. If it was advertised by them at $19.95 and linked to page at $49.95 then sure their fault. If the price just went up after being on special then perfectly. valid.

      Sure they've stuffed you around but the "sense of entitlement" in some of these posts is a bit too much.

      • I know what bait and switch is: "Lure them in with a cheap offer, then with the excuse they are out of stock, offer something more expensive". Sure they never did offer me something more expensive, but they did lure me in. And to consider a different color a different item …. not so sure about that either.

        In regards to the 19.95 for the first 100 customer and then changing To 49.95. Seriously do you think that is not on purpose? I mean, seriously, $50 ??? It's more likely to confuse a 4 with a 1 then a 3.
        13.95 11.95 14.95 What looks more like it?

        "Sense of entitlement"? I ordered something, I paid for it, I bloody think I am entitled to receive the item.

        And not only one, no twice. So it looks like a Pattern.

        • So they didn't try and upsell you to something else. Therefore no "switch" and no bait and switch.

          A different colour is absolutely a different item. If you'd ordered blue and were sent pink you'd be whinging about that too. A very organised seller would say "we're out of stock in colour A, would colour B be OK" and swap things over.

          Of course 100 units is on purpose if that's what the sale was. "Confusing numbers" is not the issue at all.

        • Is an explicit switch required? To lure customers into the shop and then not have the item they ordered and paid for. Could be intention enough too qualify for switch.

          I disagree that different color is a "completely different article". I explicitly communicated that a silver earphones instead of gray one would be fine. And still they did not offer a swap.

          And if they managed to confuse me, with the numbers, I did have the batteries in the basket, but because I ordered two, I checked the total a bit more then what I normally would have. They probably managed to get a few sales in.

  • +1

    Anyone thinking to start a petition on Change.org against this DS practice?

    • Petitions? Won't do anything like most petitions. Why do people even suggest stuff like this?

      Why do you think a petition will help a company improve its online store, logistics, billing etc?

      • Force shops to provide items that people purchased when it was on stock. As a consequence a better stock control, and as consequence a better customer happiness. And tell the people at the other end of the phone to not lye to customers. Better service, Everyone happy. Fines always help manager make changes.

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