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Store RepLLED Accessories @ ledaccessories.com.au on 08/03/2015 - 17:29 ebay.com.au (1264 clicks)
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12W Natural White Samsung SMD LED Downlight Kit with Driver & SAA CE RoHS Approval

Home & Garden 12W Downlight Lamp LED Samsung SMD 5630

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  • Punkboy on 08/03/2015 - 18:07

    How much would a dimmable version of this cost?

  • thebargainhunter on 08/03/2015 - 19:04
    +2

    This post just brightened my day

    • Store RepLED Accessories @ ledaccessories.com.au on 08/03/2015 - 20:32

      Thank you! More to come from LED Accessories :)

  • Steptoe on 08/03/2015 - 20:33
    +2

    You should send a sample to www.ledbenchmark.com to validate the 1300W Lumen claim

    • RubenM on 08/03/2015 - 21:16
      +1

      Agree 100%.
      I bought mine (PAK 10W) because of ledbenchmark. Great website that sorts the wheat from the chaff!

    • Store RepLED Accessories @ ledaccessories.com.au on 08/03/2015 - 21:23
      +1

      Good advice! We currently have 2 LED replacement bulbs (7W and 10W) tested by ledbenchmark:

      http://www.ledbenchmark.com/list.php?manf=99

      Yes we are planning to get more of our LED lights tested by ledbenchmark, including the downlight range.

      Thanks
      LED Accessories

  • yaleman on 08/03/2015 - 21:03

    Anyone using these currently or seen a review? There's no part number or information to do a comparison…

  • pmupsinep on 08/03/2015 - 21:06
    +2

    Rep, is this a Samsung product, or is it a generic no name product using a Samsung LED?

    • Store RepLED Accessories @ ledaccessories.com.au on 08/03/2015 - 21:27

      It is not a Samsung product, it is a generic product which uses Samsung SMD 5630 LED.

      Thanks
      LED Accessories

  • PVA on 08/03/2015 - 21:15

    these look pretty good , better than the large globes we have in the bulk heads in our kitchen but I think these are 90-100mm.
    does the 240 plug disconnect so perm wiring can connect?
    1200lumens is about what in watts?

    • Store RepLED Accessories @ ledaccessories.com.au on 08/03/2015 - 21:43
      +1

      Thanks for your comment. The answers of your questions are as below.

      1. does the 240 plug disconnect so perm wiring can connect?
        Yes the 240V power plug is disconnected from the downlight.

      2. 1200 lumens is about what in watts?
        I think you are comparing the LED light output with the old incandescent light bulb, below text is the relevant section of our free ebook "LED-Light-Bulb-Buying-Guide" (http://www.ledaccessories.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/201…), which explains how to translate watts into lumens. Hope it helps. Any further questions let us know.

      How many lumens do I need? Over the last century, we've been trained to think about light purely in terms of wattages, so it isn't surprising that most people really have no idea of how many lumens they actually need in a bulb. Until you form an idea of how bright is bright enough for your tastes, stick with the figures below:

      Replacing a 25-watt bulb: look for at least 220 lumens

      Replacing a 40-watt bulb: look for at least 400 lumens

      Replacing a 60-watt bulb: look for at least 700 lumens

      Replacing a 75-watt bulb: look for at least 900 lumens

      Replacing a 100-watt bulb: look for at least 1,300 lumens

      Thanks
      LED Accessories

      • PVA on 08/03/2015 - 21:48

        thanks.
        I know how bright watts are so thanks for this.

        • Store RepLED Accessories @ ledaccessories.com.au on 08/03/2015 - 21:55
          +1

          Thank you! Happy to help.

          LED Accessories

      • hotwinter on 08/03/2015 - 22:27
        +1

        "Replacing a 100-watt bulb: look for at least 1,300 lumens"
        That means your 12w led would be as bright or very close to a 100w halogen lamp?

        • Steptoe on 08/03/2015 - 22:38
          +1

          Incandescent

        • Store RepLED Accessories @ ledaccessories.com.au on 08/03/2015 - 22:41

          The natural white 12W downlight is close, but we recommend it is more suitable to replace a 75W halogen lamp.

          Thanks
          LED Accessories

        • Store RepLED Accessories @ ledaccessories.com.au on 08/03/2015 - 22:52

          @Steptoe: understand, halogen is slightly brighter than incandescent.

        • Steptoe on 09/03/2015 - 17:12

          @LED Accessories:

          75W Halogen gives 1272lumen so close if your 1300lumen claim is validated :p

        • Store RepLED Accessories @ ledaccessories.com.au on 09/03/2015 - 20:46
          +1

          @Steptoe: Thanks for the information. The spec of our LED downlights is provided by our supplier. We are planning to send some samples to ledbenchmark to get them tested, like what we did to our LED replacement bulbs.

          Cheers
          LED Accessories

        • Steptoe on 12/04/2015 - 11:22

          @LED Accessories:

          Other models are far from claimed brightness, which you have since significantly revised.

          http://www.ledbenchmark.com/list.php?manf=99&thumbnails

          Vendor originally claimed 1300 lumens then after our testing modified claims to 700lm.

        • Punkboy on 12/04/2015 - 22:29

          @Steptoe:
          Thanks for updating this thread. I'll be the first to admit that I don't know too much about LED downlights but I'd like to know more as I'm planning a fit out. You seem knowledgeable on this subject, I'd be keen for further info.

          I think we should acknowledge that the vendor is trying to do the right thing and have his product reviewed independently although it's fair to say that the claimed brightness reduction is pretty poor.

          The big question is does approx half the claimed brightness now mean that these aren't value for money? Is this pretty typical for this class of product. Do you have suggestions for alternatives?

        • Store RepLED Accessories @ ledaccessories.com.au on 13/04/2015 - 08:17
          +1

          @Steptoe:
          Thanks a lot for updating this thread. Yes the test result just came out last week for our 12W 90mm cutout downlight. We since contacted our supplier, and their explanation is: The specified light output is based on the light source rather than the complete product, which they advise is the industrial common practice.

          As a Australian local business, we want to provide our customers the most accurate information about our products. That's why we sent our downlights to ledbenchmark for a independent testing. We've since updated the specification on our product listings in both eBay and online stores to reflect the actual test results.

          It was never our intention to mislead our customers. We agree that there is a big difference between the claimed and the actual lumens output. We are sorry for that. If any of our customers who bought the downlights, and felt misled, or not happy with the products, please contact us to return the downlights, we will give you full refund and pay the return postage. That's a part of our money back guarantee which applies to all our LED lights.

          We only tested our 12W 90mm cutout downlight, we are planning to test other downlights including 12W 120mm cutout, 20W 165mm cutout and 30W 200mm cutout downlights in the coming months. The test results will be available on ledbenchmark.com.

          We are also getting new waterproof and flat downlights, they will be tested as well. The product spec will be based on the test result once it is ready.

          Kind Regards
          LED Accessories

  • stumo on 08/03/2015 - 22:27

    Can these be run directly from a 12V DC supply?

  • Store RepLED Accessories @ ledaccessories.com.au on 08/03/2015 - 22:37

    No they cannot.

    Thanks
    LED Accessories

  • macamaca on 09/03/2015 - 00:00

    AS????
    Australian Standards compliant?

    • Store RepLED Accessories @ ledaccessories.com.au on 09/03/2015 - 07:27
      +1

      Yes all our LED downlights have SAA approval, if you want to check please email us on [email protected], and we will send you an copy of the SAA certificate ASAP.

      Thanks
      LED Accessories

  • llama on 09/03/2015 - 01:06

    with Driver & SAA CE RoHS Approval

    The LED Driver shown in the photos in the eBay listing is DEFINITELY NOT SAA Approved.

    What driver do you actually supply, and what is the Certification number?

    • Store RepLED Accessories @ ledaccessories.com.au on 09/03/2015 - 07:34

      Same as above, please email us on [email protected], and we will send you an copy of the SAA certificate. Then we can discuss what additional information you want from us and our supplier.

      Thanks
      LED Accessories

    • PVA on 09/03/2015 - 08:29
      -1

      What's a driver, the transformer?

      • Store RepLED Accessories @ ledaccessories.com.au on 09/03/2015 - 08:48

        Yes, it is the transformer.

        Regards
        LED Accessories

  • Eeb171 on 09/03/2015 - 10:09

    What brand/type dimmer would you advice for http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/111615981550

    • Store RepLED Accessories @ ledaccessories.com.au on 09/03/2015 - 11:48

      Thanks for your inquiry, we recommend Clipsal trading edge dimmer which works well with all our dimmable downlights.

      Thanks
      LED Accessories

  • thegame888 on 10/03/2015 - 02:49

    Other than cutout size, are there any other differences between the 90mm cutouts and the 120mm cutouts you sell?

    • Store RepLED Accessories @ ledaccessories.com.au on 10/03/2015 - 08:12

      Thanks for your inquiry. Below is the listing of our standard 90mm cutout 12W downlight:

      http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/111483955395

      As you can see the only major difference is the size, including cutout, height and diameter. Other specs are pretty much the same.

      Thanks
      LED Accessories

      • Steptoe on 10/03/2015 - 15:28

        …not forgetting price

        • Store RepLED Accessories @ ledaccessories.com.au on 10/03/2015 - 15:45

          Yes, one is on promotion, and another is not :)

          Thanks
          LED Accessories

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