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Lenovo ThinkServer TS140 70A4 - Core i3-4330 3.5Ghz, 4GB RAM US $255 Delivered @ Ant Online eBay Store

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Lenovo ThinkServer TS140 70A4 - Core i3-4330 3.5Ghz, 4GB RAM US $255 Delivered @ Ant Online eBay Store
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If your business is moving up from a desktop environment to its first server, you'll find everything you need in the TS140 - an affordable, durable server with impeccable productivity and manageability features.At 26-dB, the acoustics of the TS140 are 40-percent quieter than previous generations, and impressively quiet for any server - that's less noise than you'll find in a typical library. Plus, it's ENERGY STAR-certified, so it's easy on the environment and easy on your power bills.
Key Features

Server
GigE
no OS
Monitor : none.
tower
5U
1-way
1 x Core i3 4330 / 3.5 GHz
RAM 4 GB
no HDD
DVD
HD Graphics 4600

Full Specs here

Lenovo Site i3 4350 version + 500gb hdd

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  • Nilfunds on 12/03/2015 - 19:37
    +3

    nice specs for the price!

    thanks

    • spychiatrist on 12/03/2015 - 20:27

      how much more to spend to make this an entry level desktop?

      • ausmechkeyboards on 12/03/2015 - 20:34
        • storage
        • monitor
        • peripherals (keyboard, mouse)
        • windows licence (if you want windows)
        • tonyjzx on 12/03/2015 - 21:02

          theres a further problem… no official Windows 7 or 8 compatibilty or official drivers

          not saying it wont work but they havent tested this unit in Windows desktop, only Server

        • Lycan on 12/03/2015 - 21:06

          Also correct me if I'm wrong, but you may also require a new PSU since this one would be set for American 115V input compared to our 230V input.

          Considering it's only a 280W PSU, you will probably want a new one anyway!

        • aussieaubs on 12/03/2015 - 21:07
          +1

          @Lycan: the psu is switchable

        • tonyjzx on 12/03/2015 - 21:13

          theres a further problem… (you're gonna find me saying that a lot)

          Lenovo do not use generic PSUs, they have their own pinouts

          according to the service manual, theres a 280w or 450w psu… you want the 450 for VGA purposes

          according to the tawbook, even the high powered xeons use the 280w, so this should be 280w

          however if you use a 128bit single 6 pin vga you should be good

          i do this for a living

        • andyD101 on 12/03/2015 - 21:37
          +2

          @tonyjzx:

          It's sock 1150 with an i3. It'll work fine

          When was the last time anyone needed to install drivers for board unless it came with specific features?

        • kei on 12/03/2015 - 21:44
          +1

          @Lycan: PSU is 280-watt automatic voltage-sensing power supply. So it should work in australia.

        • bigoldtoo on 12/03/2015 - 23:28
          -1

          @tonyjzx:

          get a 24 pin to 14 pin adapter, and you are good to go

          http://www.ebay.com/itm/24Pin-to-14pin-14p-Power-Supply-ATX-…

        • Jezzabell on 13/03/2015 - 12:14
          +2

          @tonyjzx:
          Windows 10 is free

        • EnALup on 14/03/2015 - 00:09

          @Jezzabell: Isn't free for windows 8 users only for a year?

        • decadent1 on 14/03/2015 - 08:21
          +1

          @Gaggy: It's free to Windows 7/8/8.1 users in the first year. After that if you haven't upgraded, then you pay.

        • Apostle0748 on 14/03/2015 - 09:45

          @decadent1: Unfortunately, not Windows 7, only Windows 8+.

        • EnALup on 14/03/2015 - 13:48

          @decadent1: its only for 8/8.1.

        • ryang on 14/03/2015 - 18:49
          +1

          You guys got any proof for this non-Windows7 information? Because everything I've read so far has said it'll be free for Windows 7 onwards..

          http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/02/02/windows-1…
          http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/21/7866679/windows-10-will-be…

          Hell, even the MS page for Windows 10 mentions it;
          http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/about

          "Free Upgrade Offer*
          Great news! We will offer a free upgrade to Windows 10 for qualified new or existing Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices that upgrade in the first year!"

        • Hellman109 on 16/03/2015 - 10:47

          Win7/8 use the same drivers as Win 2008R2/2012 (Their server equivilents) so it would work perfectly fine.

        • EnALup on 16/03/2015 - 14:13

          @ryang: Thanks ryang for the Microsoft link. I don't remember now, but when I read it few months back when they released statement about windows 10 phone updates to be free.

          For this server, users still need to have licence for windows 7 and that is not free.

    • killergreely on 13/03/2015 - 09:29
      +1

      Really? Compare the part list with somewhere like Umart or MSY. It's not much of a bargain. It's not even really a 'server', if you use the normal definition of server as having things like redundant power supplies and hardware RAID.

      • ITveteran on 13/03/2015 - 16:25

        It said it's a server only because it's bulky.

        • killergreely on 13/03/2015 - 18:32

          Having worked with servers for around 30 years, I can honestly say I've never bought one on the basis of it being "bulky".

  • JetBombat on 12/03/2015 - 19:41
    +3

    Solid. Weight: 13kg

  • ryang on 12/03/2015 - 19:42
    +5

    Don't know how they can get away with calling it a server…

    Great desktop though!! lol

    • JimmyF on 13/03/2015 - 09:46
      +1

      low end servers have always just been'fancy' desktops…..

  • bargaino on 12/03/2015 - 19:42
    +9

    Looks like a bog-standard mini-tower, aside from the ECC RAM. Does anything else make this a "server"?
    No redundant power supply, no rack-mount, no hot-swap drive bays.

    • ryang on 12/03/2015 - 19:46
      +5

      Yep, no RAID, drive options are pretty sad as well.. Unless you really need an i3, I'd suggest a HP Microserver for a similar price.

      Edit: Holy crap the MicroServers aren't cheap anymore!!! :(

      • salem on 12/03/2015 - 20:21
        +2

        specs as linked have:

        Onboard ThinkServer RAID 100 SATA controller in chipset,
        SATA 6.0Gb/s, RAID 0, 1, 5, 10 support

        • ryang on 12/03/2015 - 20:53
          +1

          Eww.. Software RAID controller!! Means no VMWare straight up. :(

      • andyD101 on 12/03/2015 - 21:49
        +1

        Could always go with a hardware raid card.

        Or depending on your use case scenario install FreeBSD/Linux and use ZFS striped vdev or raidz.

        There are some major let downs to this design though.

        1. There are 2U designs with 8 or 9 drives. 4 is far too little for a 5U

        2. Requires additional attachment to rack mount it. May as well just use an ITX or mini ATX case if you're not putting it in a rack.

        3. 80+ Bronze

      • samfisher5986 on 12/03/2015 - 23:18

        Why do you want RAID? What are you running that requires 100% uptime enough that you will spend $$$ on it to achieve?

        If you want to protect your data you don't use RAID.

    • rompastompa on 12/03/2015 - 19:46
      +1

      Competition with the HP Proliant N54L

      • brett-au on 12/03/2015 - 21:37
        +1

        You wish to comment on what is better? I'm in the market for a new low power server/nas.

        • ryang on 12/03/2015 - 22:44

          If you can find a decent price on the HP's, I'd definitely pick one up. Great design and very flexible.

          Otherwise, maybe grab a basic NAS.

        • bigpallooka on 13/03/2015 - 01:11

          I have 2 HP micro-servers. They can be found on sale regularly. There are hundreds of pages of info in the overclockers forum about what you can do with them.
          http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=958208

    • SteveAndBelle on 12/03/2015 - 19:46
      +4

      The term 'server' gets bandied about a lot but is really defined by the individual. I've used many old standard PCs as 'servers' before because that's all they did… they 'served' files and 'served' media across my home network.

    • scotty on 12/03/2015 - 19:48

      Most low end "servers" from Dell, HP or Lenovo are like that — standard tower case, less "features" for stability, ECC RAM, etc. Some small business buy these, put in a Windows server license and serve as a file server and/or domain controller.

      These days many of those small desktop-servers are replaced by cloud services.

      • EnALup on 12/03/2015 - 22:33
        +1

        True. But cloud services are expensive and per month basis. If business know how to setup, it will be cheaper to have own server.

    • Seeyounexttuesday on 12/03/2015 - 19:59

      I think you will find the ethernet has supported drivers for server2012.

  • justaperson on 12/03/2015 - 19:49
    +3

    This server plus an extra $60 to buy a WD Blue and you've got a cheap, fast desktop!

  • Cobalt_ on 12/03/2015 - 20:11
    +3

    Manual indicates 5 sata ports. So either 4x HDD and 1x ODD or 5x HDD.
    Picture of case/motherboard open:
    http://www.tiendalenovo.es/media/catalog/product/cache/1/ima…

    Not a bad starter system for roughly $340 delivered but you will effectively have no warranty. Would recommend buying this on a credit card with some form of purchase protection.

  • tc4101 on 12/03/2015 - 20:16

    whats the difference between this "server" which is only an i3 vs say my business desktop which is an i7?

    • xuqi on 12/03/2015 - 21:46
      +4

      About $750+ :)

      • tc4101 on 12/03/2015 - 22:26
        +1

        I actually bought a second hand i7 +4 GB RAM business machine for $300 and wacked on a SSD drive and an extra 4GB RAM I had lying around and put on Win7 and it cost me all up less than $400 ;)

        • NWLikeShopping on 12/03/2015 - 22:47

          That's the way I flew, too, tc4101, except that I did it with an i7 business laptop and bumped it from 4gb to 16gb, and I used a large EVO SSD, so it cost me a bit more than $400. :-)

  • lzwdavid on 12/03/2015 - 20:21

    Does it support non-ecc rams?

    • tonyjzx on 12/03/2015 - 20:35

      this ^^^

      very important, if it doesnt, not worth buying

      • tonyjzx on 12/03/2015 - 20:40

        Post 4: "2. Non-ECC, Non-Buffered memory Does Work."

    • bjdchwr on 12/03/2015 - 22:52
      +2

      To clarify the statements above based on my experiences with these TS140 servers,

      1. ECC Unbuffered works. Buffered memory definitely does NOT work. Bios will not post with Buffered memory.
      2. Non-ECC, Non-Buffered memory Does Work.
      3. Module voltage should be 1.5 volts. Modules rated at 1.35 volts are not stable.
      4. Use modules with CAS Latency (CL) of 11 for pc3-12800 ddr3-1600MHz modules. if you use modules with higher performance (such as modules with CL of 9) the Bios will adjust the clock speed to the default parameter for that CL (in this case 1333MHz). The Bios has no ability to adjust the RAM clock frequency or CL.

      https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkServer-Towers/What-memory-…

    • Charity on 13/03/2015 - 02:01
      +1

      the ram is the only good thing the server has in it.

      everything else can literally be found on the kerbside.

  • bjdchwr on 12/03/2015 - 20:39
    +2

    Payment method
    $349.29 AUD

    PayPal Conversion Rate as of 12 Mar 2015: 1 Australian Dollar = 0.730750 US Dollars

    FYI

    • tonyjzx on 12/03/2015 - 20:40
      +5

      wow paypal are screwing us on the conversion

      • bjdchwr on 12/03/2015 - 20:43

        Exactly! the conversion rate is CRAP now!!!!

      • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2015 - 21:35
        +2

        It's Paypal, what did you expect?

      • Audisez on 13/03/2015 - 01:31

        You know you can change it so paypal charges USD and thus uses your banks exchange rate and fees.

    • ycon on 12/03/2015 - 20:48
      +2

      28 Degree's if you've got it

    • hamza23 on 12/03/2015 - 21:07

      $337.57 AUD paying via mastercard/28 degrees.

    • Randxyz123 on 12/03/2015 - 21:07

      Wow wtf…

  • rolypoly on 12/03/2015 - 21:10

    I can't actually find this product on the Energy Star website. Though I admit this is the first time I have looked such things up.

    • tonyjzx on 12/03/2015 - 21:34
      +1

      they dont rate business equipment but its a 280w psu running a low power i3 at 26dB

      it'll be low

  • bjdchwr on 12/03/2015 - 21:25
    -1

    Just bought one. Will it work with Cash-rewards?

    My idea is to just swap the CPU with "higher ends". The original CPU - i3 seems a bit …..

  • BruceYingChua on 12/03/2015 - 21:33

    Can i put a modern high end video card in this and plug into tv via hdmi on the card to use as HTPC/Gaming machine?

  • brett-au on 12/03/2015 - 21:52

    Hmm. I'm thinking this may have been a mistake. Apparently 2,452 of them have been sold. I'm curious to know if lenovo have that kind of stock just lying around the US. Otherwise I would be very tempted to pull the trigger and buy this over an N54L (I have a draw of old ECC memory that I could put in it).

    • brett-au on 13/03/2015 - 10:39

      Bah. My memory is all registered. This needs non registered.

      • ryang on 13/03/2015 - 11:50

        But is it buffered?? :P

        Seriously though..

  • DEvok on 12/03/2015 - 22:43

    Can this unit runs games, like dead space?

    • ryang on 12/03/2015 - 22:46

      Original Dead Space? Should do, just don't expect anything special..

  • nowlan on 12/03/2015 - 22:51

    Why does it say 255 delivered? Oh US dollah.

    US $199.99 Approximately AU $263.79
    Postage: US $55.25 (approx. AU $72.87) International Priority Shipping to Australia

  • bjdchwr on 12/03/2015 - 23:08

    Seller have just changed the item condition from New to Brand New hours ago.

  • citybargainhunter on 12/03/2015 - 23:11

    OP, can you please put the price in $AU in the title?

    • XeKToReX on 12/03/2015 - 23:22

      It depends how you pay though so its misleading to others.

      • Jase2801 on 12/03/2015 - 23:24

        I agree. If you pay via paypal it will be a bit more than paying via mastercard 28 degrees. I will be taking a complete guess.

  • knackers on 12/03/2015 - 23:47
    +1

    Form factor is a little too large to fit in my server rack

  • tieussue on 13/03/2015 - 00:07

    I'm thinking of getting this for a casual pc to game with nothing much, does not take much to run league and im sure the intell 4600 will do fine, but should i get it? its around 330 delivered unless anyone knows how to make a better or equivalent rig for 330

    • tonyjzx on 13/03/2015 - 00:36

      i think this is a great rig

      4Gb may even be enough for most people but it uses cheap std 1600 mem anyway

      $100 for windows or an edu copy

      you should have mouse kbd ssd screen already

      a 128bit 2gb low power vga would be good

      a bit of work but a sub $500 machine that performs like a $1k machine… yeah

      • tieussue on 13/03/2015 - 02:35

        Alright think i will be getting it thanks :)

  • asa79 on 13/03/2015 - 01:04
    +1

    Approximately AU $263.79 Before you adding shipping

  • PreSsieGuY on 13/03/2015 - 01:34

    anyone know how this would hold up running plex and transcoding HD content?

    • gmatht on 13/03/2015 - 13:09
      +2

      It is an i3 so should be fine. It would run rings round a N40L/N50L. If Plex ever supports QuickSync, this could transcode HD content in it's sleep.

  • bargain_knight on 13/03/2015 - 05:36

    Hi guys,
    Does this work out as cheaply as everyone says if used as a desktop?
    $350 for the machine
    $150 for a hard disk (SSD)
    $100 for windows

    You've already spent $600 plus time and effort setting it up if you purchase it. If I was to buy I am also risking it not working out of the box and I don't have any warranty without hassle.

    E.g. some deals from last year that appear better
    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/152177 was under $400, excluding windows in the middle of last year.
    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/152150 this one was $500 including windows.
    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/148161 This one $600 with SSD and 8 GB or RAM but no OS

    The above are all 9 months old, but effectively working out to be the same price. The chip sets are almost identical. These deals are pretty common. The only thing is they are not Lenovo machines.

  • Bob Wang on 13/03/2015 - 07:38

    it comes with 3 year on-site warranty if you purchase the server from the Lenovo AU site, compare to 1 year on-site if you get it from the ebay site.

    • JimmyF on 13/03/2015 - 11:19

      price difference though?

  • frostman on 13/03/2015 - 08:21
    -7

    How the hell is this a Server with those specs?
    I don't see Dual LAN, Xeon CPU , +16GB RAM, any information of SAS drive support, SMART Array RAID Controller?

    WTF, this is nothing short of a desktop for high school

    • JimmyF on 13/03/2015 - 09:48
      +2

      Low end servers have always been a bit better than 'fancy' desktops. HP/Dell etc are all the same in the low end market. What you're paying for is the support

      • frostman on 13/03/2015 - 10:05
        -5

        Why do you need (to pay for) 24x7 support on Infrastructure that isn't any better than a standard Desktop in terms of specs?
        I wouldnt be surprised if during installing Windows Server 2012 that you get an error saying:

        "Get stuffed, i'm not even worth running on your shitty hardware" - error bluescreen

        • JimmyF on 13/03/2015 - 10:09
          +1

          You're paying for hardware support, 4hr response to have someone come out onsite and fix it etc.

          Not every job a 'server' does is mission critical moon landing. Some tasks can live without the server being up for a while, or can be failed over to another server.

          ie its cheaper to install two of these cheap servers in a failover, than it is to install one bigger more redundant server (that can still fail btw!)

        • frostman on 13/03/2015 - 10:14
          -5

          @Level380:

          OK A) Stop negging my comments, there is nothing in there worth negging as they're facts. The issue of using the hardware for personal use / business is subjective. You cannot argue that it's extremely low spec to be called a Server. Negging my comments isn't going to help your lousy argument

          B) > Not every job a 'server' does is mission critical moon landing
          Don't paraphrase. If you go out and buy a "Server" and pay additional $$ for support. There is a reasonable amount of expectations that you have some mission critical services/systems that you're running. You're surely not going to be web-browsing all day on it, or playing games.

        • JimmyF on 13/03/2015 - 10:40
          +3

          @frostman:

          a) You have 6 negs… don't blame me for them!

          b) clearly you don't deal in this space to understand that business want 'support'. I gave examples in my last reply to you. Anyhow I'll leave you to it.

  • frostman on 13/03/2015 - 11:21
    -7

    You have 6 negs… don't blame me for them!

    Stop hiding (and lying), if you were man enough with your arguments you wouldn't neg my arguments and lie about it. You've effectively devalued yourself now
    I was informed when you replied to my thread "1 min ago" in Chrome and looked at my thread and saw it -1. Who do you think that is?
    BTW i havn't negged not even 1 of your threads.

    b) clearly you don't deal in this space to understand that business want 'support'. I gave examples in my last reply to you. Anyhow I'll leave you to it.

    Your examples are not matching my argument, in laymans terms this is the event:

    Me: The hardware specs on this machine do not befit those of a "Server" Grade
    Your Response: You can use it as a desktop without an issue
    Me: The hardware specs on this machine do not befit those of a "Server" Grade, it's too costly and not "fit for purpose"
    Your Response: It's still better than a desktop

    Conclusion - you havn't even attempted to debate my primary argument on specs. Get outta here boy (and liar)

    • salem on 13/03/2015 - 11:50
      +1

      could have been me negging. there's a vast gulf between "enterprise" server and homeoffice server/small business server. This, obviously, is not enterprise grade, sure. But for a small business, 5 employees, small office, needs somewhere to centrally store files and manage 5 desktops. This will be great. Throw in some software raid for a little redundancy, backups to an external usb HDD, it will absolutely be fit for purpose.

      or for a home media server, fits in the same niche as the HP N54L. Cheap (relative to enterprise grade servers) and will do what a lot of people need it to do, without adding in expensive features that they won't need. If they do need redundant power supplies and multi-bonded nics, sas drives and the other fancy enterprise grade things, then yeah, this is not the right server for them. but it's still a server.

      • frostman on 13/03/2015 - 12:09

        So since you're negging my comments, how about you answer my question directly:

        Show me (2) components in this "SERVER" that distinguish it from a Mid-Range Desktop. I'm not asking for what you can buy on top, I am talking about capability and/or current setup

        • salem on 13/03/2015 - 12:14
          +1

          1) ECC ram compatible.
          2) RAID 0, 1, 5, 10 support on-board (most mid-range desktops will only have 0,1)
          3) while you're trying to exclude this, it's actually one of the key features that set this apart for a small business looking to buy a small server: ability to buy support for it. which is you're a small business, could well be important. If you bought yourself a mid-range desktop and put it into server duties, you're not going to even be allowed to buy any half-way decent business support (eg: on-site visits), because the kit you bought wouldn't be considered business-grade.

        • frostman on 13/03/2015 - 12:29
          -2

          @salem:

          1) ECC ram compatible - valid albeit minor feature
          2.) RAID 5/10 - WoW! RAID 5/10 Software can do this, not an exclusive server feature
          3.) is NOT a hardware feature it's an addon-purchase which is bundled up

          Here are some features my Servers run (which are nothing short of STANDARD on REAL SERVERS)

          • Xeon CPU
          • Dual LAN port
          • Duel Socket support
          • Advanced ECC
          • +1600Mhz Memory speed
          • SAS Controller

          This said, this means a Server (entry level) with some of these REAL features should start at ~$700. Anything less than that labelled a "SERVER" is a gimick made to be sold to fools, like the many people that negged my comments.

          The above Lenovo THINKServer is nothing short of a Desktop + Premium Support bundled up.

        • salem on 13/03/2015 - 12:40
          +1

          @frostman:

          and one of my servers at work is a 48 core, 1.5tb ram, with dual bonded 10gigabit fibre channel networking. whoop-de-do. Just because fancier servers exist doesn't mean this Lenovo one here won't serve a small business as a server just fine.

          Why would you want/need dual lan, xeon, sas for running a domain of 5 desktops and storing a bunch of word and pdf documents?

          From what I can see you're just angry because they're calling it a server, but you want it to be fancier to be allowed to call it that. But I don't understand why that makes you angry.

          even wikipedia acknowledges a difference between servers generally, and mission-critical enterprise-grade servers.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_(computing)

        • frostman on 13/03/2015 - 12:43
          -1

          @salem:

          From what I can see you're just angry because they're calling it a server, but you want it to be fancier to be allowed to call it that. But I don't understand why that makes you angry.

          No, im saying it would be better (more accurately) labelled as a Desktop/MidRange PC with Premium Support

          Why would you want/need dual lan, xeon, sas for running a domain of 5 desktops and storing a bunch of word and pdf documents?

          This may be your requirements, but IT professionals and/or Business owners may have want an entry level Server with some server features. You're debating using the "Straw man logic" - this puts you in a very bad situation from a debate angle.

  • Poseidon on 13/03/2015 - 12:45

    Does anyone know if this uses standard motherboard and PSU? If one of these parts were to fail at some point, could it be replaced with a standard off the shelf part or does it have to be purchased through lenovo?

    My hp n40l MicroServer stopped working after more than 2 years. It seems motherboard is dead. I have not looked into replacement parts but it will probably cost more than buying a new n54l.

    I would prefer this deal to n54l if it uses standard parts.

  • andy911 on 13/03/2015 - 12:56
    +2

    I'll buy into this SERVER argument some…
    Please note I have no specific experience with this model and aren't vouching for it.

    It says in this Lenovo doco http://www.lenovo.com/images/products/server/pdfs/tech_resou… that an AMT (Remote Access Console) is built in to the TS140. That's a feature you won't find on desktops.
    Along with ECC it's one of the must-have features to use something for server duty, if like so many of us you need to keep the thing running 24x7 and don't live with it.
    The HP mini server doesn't come with a remote access card. You can buy one - but lately they have taken the drivers of their public website - bastards.
    This Lenovo server is also cheaper than what I spend on the remote access module alone for all of our servers.

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