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Dewalt 14V 2 Piece Drill $144 & Stanley Fatmax 18V 2 Piece $119 @Masters Chullora, St Marys, Penrith, Greg Hills NSW (30/1)

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At least 50% off these tools at Masters Chullora, St Marys, Gregory Hills and Penrith NSW. Starts at 7am Saturday 30th (Instore Only)

DeWalt 14.4V XR Li-Ion Drill Driver and Impact Driver Combo Kit - $144 (Save $145)
Stanley Fatmax 18V 2 Piece Kit - $119 (Save $120)
Triton 2000W XT Compound Mitre Saw 305mm - $194 (Save $195)
Wesco 1200W Circular Saw 185mm - $19 (Save $26)
Kobalt Heavy Duty 3 Drawer Workbench Black - $189 (Save $190)

Deal found in Page 16 and 17 of Local Newspaper


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  • +3

    So it begins…

  • +3

    The stanley would be best value.. wonder if bunnings will counter. .. hurt em when they're down lol

    • Ryobi One+ range with a bit of luck.

      • heres hoping after that last deal with the blower and 5A battery

        • +1

          For sure. I bought into the range a couple of years ago with a few skins and a 1.4 & 4.0ah batt. Awesome deal on the Blower kit the other week just for the Batt and Charger alone. Had to grab 2 kits because it was such a ripper deal. Makes Hedging so much easier knowing I have a couple of spare batts at the ready 😬

    • will be interesting to see a ryobi deal from them

  • +2

    Also available at St Mary's, Gregory Hills and Penrith. No love for ACT unfortunately. They're the "New look" stores apparently that's why they're promoting at the four.

  • dam this is a bargain, wish it was WA

  • That workbench looks nice :)

  • I would suggest buy now, for those that can't get in Saturday morning, then claim price difference from your CC provider if you have such a card. I can see Brodens getting in early for this deal. That would ruin their plans.

    • I'd love to but I don't think you can claim the price difference under Price Protection Insurance claim. Here's the PDS for NAB cards:

      Price Protection Insurance Plan Conditions:

      The lower price must be on a printed advertisement
      displaying the exact same item and must have been published
      within twenty-one (21) days following your purchase.

      Exclusions:

      Any item purchased or advertised for sale on the
      internet.

      Items advertised in or as a result of ‘limited quantity,’
      going out-of-business sales,’ ‘cash only’ or ‘close out’
      advertisements, items shown on price lists or price
      quotes, cost savings as a result of package offer,
      manufacturer’s coupons, employees discount, or free
      items, or when the advertised price includes bonus or
      free offers, special financing, installation or rebate, or
      one-of-a-kind or other limited offers.

      Refer to pg 69-70

      https://www.nab.com.au/content/dam/nab/personal/documents/na…

      Based on the info on PDS, if I purchased the item as you suggested and made a claim to my card provider, they would most likely reject my claim.

      I'm happy to be corrected though!

      • +1

        Seems like it's time to ditch your existing card and go for a better one then. A few have more flexible rule for price protection, 28 degrees at least don't have that 21 day print rule, in fact you can claim without even printed advertising for 6 month, Coles one can claim for up to 2 year.

  • +8

    I'd hope Masters and DSE would both stay in the competition. :(

    • it seems that everything ww touches gets rammed.

      • I'm not going to let ww touch me then ;)

  • What would be the deal in regards to warranty if masters closes.

    Would the manufacturer have to oblige by it?

    • yes, they are manufacturers warranty's after all.

      I believe Woolworths also said they will honor them

  • +9

    Oh I wish Masters could stay in the business, I actually quite like them after visiting so many times during my deck building.

  • Wow, $50 for work bench in USA

    http://low.es/1PSfFIu

    EDIT: Might be wrong, looks like $199 http://low.es/1OYwS2Z

  • +2

    one+ bunnings please one+ bunnings please one+ bunnings please … match match match! XD

    • Considering that Ryobi is a Bunnings "house brand" and not available elsewhere, why would Bunnings even bother?

      • Because Masters are selling a substitute product in a price-competetive (ie, one which is largely agnostic wrt product differentiation) market segment at a discount?

        • Isn't the large number of accessories the main attraction of the One+ range? No other brand has the range of accessories that Ryobi has, so there's no real substitute now.

        • Because Masters are selling a substitute product in a price-competetive (ie, one which is largely agnostic wrt product differentiation) market segment at a discount?

          So what? Why would Bunnings care what Masters are selling clearance items for?

          Bunnings have a price match policy on IDENTICAL products. They don't drop the price of Ryobi gear when some other retailer sells another brand of cordless drill at a discounted price. Why should they?

          Ryobi One+ is basically a "fanboi" kind of product. It appeals to people who like Ryobi One+ stuff. People who buy Ryobi One+ are "locked in", they keep buying more because they already have "the kit".

      • It's definitely not a house brand, they may have an exclusive deal but they used to sell Ryobi at lots of places years ago. Hitachi is not a Masters house brand just because you don't find it at bunnings…

        • Since no one else sells the Ryobi One+ range, it's effectively a "house model".

        • It's definitely not a house brand, they may have an exclusive deal

          Technically, the "name" is owned by a Hong Kong company: http://www.ttigroup.com/en/our_brands/

          If you look at the other brand names that they own, you will see some other Bunnings-only brands!

          but they used to sell Ryobi at lots of places years ago.

          Years ago Ryobi was sold in lots of places because back then it was made by Ryobi, not Techronics. There is no "Ryobi" left in the tools sold now days.

          Hitachi is not a Masters house brand just because you don't find it at bunnings.

          Of course not, Hitachi is not a house brand at ALL. I think you getting stuck on the term "house brand" and thus struggling to understand the concept that we are discussing here.

          You might not buy Hitachi in Bunnings, but you CAN buy Hitachi in places other than Masters. However, you cannot buy Ryobi anywhere else than Bunnings.

          So, since Ryobi and AEG are only sold at Bunnings, you cannot establish a "true market price" for them. Bunnings discounts these brands to suit themselves… they have no commercial need to discount them in response to another retailer's pricing structure.

        • @llama: yeah it's just a definition thing. House Brand to me suggests that Bunnings owns the brand, they don't. If Bunnings dumped Ryobi tomorrow TBH ey would be everywhere. While your definition is useful for all the reasons you mention it's not the true definition of house brand afaic

        • @Jackson:

          House Brand to me suggests that Bunnings owns the brand, they don't.

          So what, who cares who owns the word? It's a brand that is only sold in one retail store, and that's the point.

          If Bunnings dumped Ryobi tomorrow TBH ey would be everywhere

          Maybe, and maybe not. But that's irrelevant, since Bunnings haven't.

          While your definition is useful for all the reasons you mention it's not the true definition of house brand afaic

          Jeeze, man! I used a generalised term to make a simple concept even easier to understand for most people. I deliberately put the term inside "inverted commas" to make it 100% clear that it was not a literal use of the words.

          Perhaps English is not your native language? Please read what that form punctuation means: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes

          You are arguing with yourself - I was never even attempting to say that it's a house brand. Sorry if I confused you, and I am sure you are 100% technically correct in your scientific analysis of the definition of the term 'house brand'.

          However no matter how much you argue the point about the definition of the term 'house brand', it doesn't change the fact that Ryobi is exclusive to ONE RETAILER in this country. Therefore, irrespective of whether Bunnings, Techronics, Donald Trump, The Wiggles or even Mr Magoo owns the rights to the brand name, the products are not available anywhere else than Bunnings.

          Therefore Bunnings has no reason whatsoever to discount the product in response to market pressures, especially some random clearance specials of other brands that result from the closure of their opposition.

        • @llama: who's arguing? Take a chill pill dude. I agree with everything you said except your use of the term house brand, that's all I said. If you can't take that at face value and leave it at that you are going to find basic interactions difficult. There's no hostility here. Perhaps making assumptions about people's backgrounds isn't good for commmunication either?

  • +2

    I finally started to like products at masters and their management decides to pull the plug. :(

    • +2

      Actually really like that they focus on the big picture, and will sell you not just hardware for your rennovation, but the appliances and whitegoods too! Real pity they didn't get better traction.

    • +2

      Masters, by virtue of their tie-up with Lowes, has a ton of unique US products that we just don't get here. When they exit, it will be back to Bunnings and their bland, generic range. It's a shame they picked such shitty locations for their business.

      • Exactly!

        Although there were some products that didn't make sense in Australia. Problem with Woolworths was that they didn't thought of getting management from likes of Mitre 10 or those stores that are closing down due to Bunnings. They just thought how they run grocery business they will do just fine. In first year they filled stores with stuff that tradies do not use. Their contracts with tradies who were doing kitchen install jobs or other jobs were quite bad. They seems to have got those who others didn't want for work. Our neighbor had bad experience as tradies just didn't arrive on the days committed and wasted a lot of their time. By the time they realised all these mistakes, they were 1.2 - 1.5 billion down.

        What could I say further, I am one of those who lost money in their stock.

  • +1

    By the way… What are you using impact drivers for?

    • +1

      Pounding it in with rythem, sweet rythem until it can pound no more…..screws that is.

    • +1

      Impact drivers are the best possible tool for screws into anything. Your cordless drill is a weak POS compared to an impact driver. I bought the DeWalt kit in the post from Masters a few weeks back and it's an incredible difference.

        1. This is probably a very dumb question but what's the different between drill driver and impact driver?
          Is drill driver for screw driving (no resistance) and impact driver is where resistance expected (making a hole into other material)?

        2. Could you use impact driver for screw driving or that is too strong and will damage the screw/the hole?

        • +12

          The opposite. Impact drivers are for putting screws in stuff. Drills are for drilling stuff, but can also put screws in stuff (just not as well).

          A drill is like your car wheel. You push the button and it turns. But, like your car, if it's trying to do more than the motor can handle (like drive up a steep slope with twenty three slabs of beer in the boot), its going to bog down/stop/start spewing smoke.

          An impact driver is kind of like putting a wrench on a bolt, and then smacking it with a hammer 50-60 times per second. If you have ever seen a rattle gun in action (those air tools they use to change tyres on your car/f1 cars/etc), it's a little version of that.

          Realistically, unless you plan on driving a lot of screws into hard stuff, you probably don't need one and a drill will be fine. But if you plan on driving a thousand 3" screws into hardwood decking with just a drill, you are gonna have a bad time.

          The main reason I have one is so I can drill a countersink/pocket hole and then drive a screw in without having to fiddle around with changing bits.

        • @jjcf: nice explanation buddy.

        • Could you use impact driver for screw driving or that is too strong and will damage the screw/the hole?

          Using an impact driver with weaker materials like chipboard/Ikea furniture could result in damage to the screw hole, unless you know exactly when to back off.

          Using a drill driver with the torque set to an appropriate level is more suitable. That's what the torque mechanism is for - to avoid damaging softer material. It's the ring of numbers right behind the chuck.

          If you're driving e.g. lag bolts into hard timber or working with large bolts and nuts, nothing beats an impact driver!

  • +2

    I never liked their practice of different prices per region. All these items are original price near me.

    • +2

      You might be surprised at how often Bunnings also has different prices at different stores, the only reason you don't see it is because you can't make a purchase on the Bunnings site so it's not as obvious.

      • Thanks I didn't know that.

  • +1

    No love for WA as usual… I've seen no bargains at Masters yet.

  • +1

    which is better the dewalt or stanley?

      • $199 seems reasonable for this, I'd pay the extra.

      • Is it the better drill?
        I only buy these once every 10 yrs or so
        Do I need brushless ?
        Any clues appreciated

        • It has the ip rating and therefore shoild have better weather resistance i think. Not sure if its actually more powerful. Id be more worried if im interested in buying other skins.

        • The panasonic has a slightly higher torque than the dewalt (42nm vs 38nm max)

      • How does the Panasonic compare to the brushless Hitachi ones listed on here earlier?

  • Victorians also missing out on this :(

  • surely we could price match? if someone has bought any of the items, a receipt will come in handy for others ?

  • guys, which one is better, 14.4 Dewalt or 18v Stanley. I am looking for a set for DIY (soon starting a deck).

    • Neither. The Stanley is just a budget Dewalt driver anyways (but I don't think batts are interchangable), and the Dewalt 14.4v was a weird attempt to introduce a mid-market product, with the power of the 10.8/12v range but the size and weight of the 18v range. Either one kind of blows because you are buying into an empty/dead product line (esp when Masters disappears).

      If you want an impact driver and don't mind spending money, get the 18V Dewalt. Either the 886 ($130-14), or the 895 (which costs an extra ~$50, but has three torque settings, a stupid bit holder and is brushless - if you are asking, though, you probably don't care about either of those things). They have a new model out, the 887 (~$170) so you should be able to get the older models cheap soon.

      Other top options are the Milwaukee Fuel, Makita LXx range or the Bosch blues (great in either fullsize or compact).

      Or, if you want cheap, the Ryobi One+ stuff is fine for around the home.

      Either way, you can then expand your tool kit with ease. All four of those options have a wide range of compatible skins, especially the Ryobi stuff.

  • +1

    Stanley 18v is a great deal at this price. You cannot get the same quality for near this price. Its not trade quality but will pretty much do the job of any higher rated product.

  • +3

    AFAIK, the Stanley Fatmax 18v system is identical / interchangeable with the Porter Cable 20V system which is available on Amazon. So even if Masters does disappear, you could buy skins and batteries from Amazon quite cheaply. It is well regarded and generally gets good reviews on Amazon.
    If I wasn't already a Bosch Blue man (very happily), I would go the Stanley system as a non-trade enthusiast.

  • So even though the dewalt is 14.4v it is better than the 18v fatmax? does the charge life last as long being different voltages?

    • I dont think the 14v dewalt will be better. Power is proportional to the viltage so 18v shoild always be better than 14v.

      • Power is proportional to the viltage so 18v shoild always be better than 14v.

        No, it isn't.

        I have a very old Makita 14.4V NiCD drill/driver (now on it's second motor and running off an Ebay NiMH battery) that absolute SHITS UPON the 18V Lithium Ozito that I recently purchased.

        The Voltage is the Voltage. Power is measured in WATTS.

        The battery voltage has absolutely zero to do with the power of the motor, the efficiency or the quality.

        • Watts = Volts x Amps

        • @HunterOfBargains20: for those a little challenged from maths and physics… more volts mean more power.. unless the current is very low.

        • @hippyhippy: agreed

        • @HunterOfBargains20:

          Yes P=VI so power is not proportional to voltage, however higher voltages allow for better power to weight ratios due to lower currents and therefore copper requirements.

          Brushless also generally offers much better power and efficiency over brushed which makes a big difference in hand held power tools.

        • @hippyhippy:

          for those a little challenged from maths and physics… More volts DOES NOT mean more power, it simply means "more volts".

          Power is measured in Watts. Whilst Watts = Volts x Amps, an increase in the number of battery cells does NOT directly or necessarily result in more power.

          The reason that the manufacturers use higher voltages (more cells) is to REDUCE THE AMPS needed within the tool. This corresponds to a smaller size of motor, smaller internal wiring, potentially lower weight and most often a lower total manufacturing cost (for them) at any given power level.

          A 200 Watt 12 Volt motor is far more "powerful" than a 100 Watt 18 Volt motor. Well, it uses more power since it has higher Watts. However what really matters is the output power, and that is a function of the Watts as well as the Efficiency (of generating twisting power for every Watt consumed).

          It is foolish to be tricked by marketing hype that's designed to misleads consumers that a higher battery voltage means "better performance" or "more power". There are far more important factors than battery voltage when comparing power tools. For example, as Keeno mentions below, the Brushless motor technology will generally provide massive gains in performance (more grunt, lower power usage).

    • I own this DeWalt kit. The impact driver drives 3" screws in like they're butter. Yes, the 18v has more power. But do you need it? If I were to be choosing between them I'd be more interested in battery life than power.

  • Can I pls have an opinion on the Triton Compound Mitre Saw? I currently have a heavily abused Ozito Mitre saw that is no longer accurate, and am looking to upgrade.
    Masters is out of the way, so very difficult to get out there for just a look (and don't know what I am really looking for anyway)
    Thanks

    • +3

      Better than shit tier ozitos/909s, not as good as comparable (ie, $300-400) Makitas, Metabos or Bosch Greens (in that order). The new Triton range that just came out are all pretty average, tbh. Nothing like their older stuff (their routers are still the absolute business).

      Dewalt SCMSs are loltastically overpriced. Milwaukees are almost as bad. Hitachis will give you cuts more bent than a Dame Edna marathon.

      Under $300, the Bosch green is about all I'd touch. If you want dirt cheap, though, I'd take a Kobalt over a Ryobi or the ozito/909 junk.

      After that, Makitas or Metabos are pretty equal, with the edge going to the Makitas on price/local service. Either one will be a quality saw.

      But if you are spending in the neighbourhood of four figures, the Bosch GDL glide saws are hotter than Scarlett Johannson mud wrestling Scarlett Johannson and trounce everything until you get to Festool Kapex money.

      As for what to look for? Something that slides smooth, doesn't have any play when you move the blade, has an easy to read miter/bevel gauge (preferably not something they printed on a dot matrix and glued to the saw), and it locks tight and firm on the angle you want. LED worklight is nice, laser is too. Dust collection is pretty shithouse on all of them and not something that's easy to test in store. Unless you are spending decent money, you probably want to budget for a nice blade as well.

      Also, unless you just want an excuse to spend money, most saws can be adjusted back to true with a combination of a decent square, screwdriver/allen key/etc, a hammer and some swearing. But it's also OZB, so I assume you just want to buy stuff :)

  • Dewalt is 14.4V with 1.3Ah batteries as compare to Stanley is 18V with 2Ah batteries. so run time should be the same on both?

    • Power is measured in WATTS (not Volts or Amps).

      Dewalt is 14.4V with 1.3Ah batteries

      Resulting in storage of 18.72 Watt Hours of power.

      as compare to Stanley is 18V with 2Ah batteries

      So the stored power is 36 Watt hours.

      so run time should be the same on both

      If the motors were of equal size and efficiency, then the Stanley would provide DOUBLE the running time.

      However, the real world doesn't always work that way…. the Dewalt might use fewer Watts to turn each screw or whatever.

      • If the motors were of equal size (W) and efficiency then the 14.4V motor would be heavier and larger than the 18V motor assuming that other variables such as magnetic circuit losses are equivalent.

  • So will Masters pricematch this in QLD ?

    • +1

      I tried in past in VIC, they didn't.

    • I just got them to price match in QLD. Worth a try.

      • +1

        Even before the sale started?
        edit: oh, the prices are live if the postcode is set to 2000

        • -1

          Yup. Just showed them the ad on my phone. They didn't really look for a start date.

          They called the manager and put it through. I think it will depend a lot on the individual managers.

          Good luck.

        • @random110: Two staff members at Everton Park wouldn't do it. Which branch were you at?

        • @eug: Bundamba

    • Just price matched Stanley fatmax in Toowoomba QLD

  • Well i called Masters Parkinson, the guy reckoned it was gonna be ok to price match as its the same company. I asked for his name and thats when he checked with his manager and said "cant do it"

  • So the discounted prices are already showing up on the website. I called and they said they can't sell it at that price until tomorrow. I bet the ACCC has something different to say about advertised prices…

    • Yep, my mate actually went instore and they wouldnt sell it at that price despite the Website showing it with no conditions mentioned.
      And you wonder why they are going bust.

    • Does click and collect work?

      • Nope. In store only =(

      • Double post

  • +1

    FYI i think all the drill kits are gone at chullora. saw heaps of people brodening it. seriously unlikely you need 5-6 sets of these things…

  • Fatmax OOS chullora.

  • There was a line outside St Marys Masters this morning. Luckily I went and got myself the Stanley kit early, there was a whole stack of them but judging by the amount of people arriving by the time I left (5 minutes after I walked in) I do think stock will run out by lunch…

  • +1

    Been in Chullora 7.10 am - all gone, people walking with multiple kits ( probably considering ) , was lucky to find both aside.
    Bought both and will select one probably. It is funny to see advertising sale, which finished in 10 min !!

  • +1

    Got to Chullora at 7:30 this morning and picked up the last 2 fatmaxes (jo- apparently they found some additional stock on the top shelf). People had up to 8 in their trolleys. The 2 most popular items were the Fatmax and Dewalt. I don't think anyone would have had any luck after 8:00am. They should really put a limit on purchases. You could tell some (tradies) were probably buying for their mates etc but there were quite a few of the Gumtree/ebay brigade.

    Ironically I've never seen a Masters carpark that busy ever.

    You may still be able to pick up a workbench or the mitre saw as there wasn't that much interest in those.

    and so it begins
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Stanley-Fatmax-18V-2-Piece-Kit-Co…

  • Went to northmead close to 8 and they have plenty of stock. Bot @ $119

    • Interesting. They refused to sell it for $119 to me.

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