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BlackBerry Priv 32GB Black STV100-1 $224.99 USD + $27.99 USD Shipping (~ $300AUD + ~ $40AUD) @ quality_cellz on eBay

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C5OZ

Browsing phones and came across this.

Expansys is selling it for 600, so I thought this price was pretty good.

Niche mid range phone, one of the few with a physical keyboard.

Unlocked from american AT&T

Qualcomm Snapdragon 808 CPU
3GB RAM
32GB Internal Storage (w/ microSD slot)
5.4" 2560x1440 OLED Display
18MP Rear & 2MP Front Cameras
Slide-out Physical Keyboard
3410mAh Battery
Android 5.1.1 Lollipop
4G-LTE : Bands 1- 2- 3- 4- 5- 7- 12- 20- 29- and 30
4G : HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul
3G - UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
Wi-Fi connectivity: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac

EDIT1: Also does have NFC

Here is full specs

https://global.blackberry.com/en/smartphones/priv-by-blackbe…

EDIT2: 5% off again if C5OZ Coupon is used. Thanks wpw for letting me know.

EDIT3: Some have brought up it doesn't have certain bands, however it does work with our Austrlian 4g providers, i'm not sure if it affects speed however.

https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/ZlXFa/blackberr…

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    • Ahyao17 on 25/05/2017 - 13:20
      +14

      A deal is a deal regardless of whether anyone buys a BB

    • jerjergege on 25/05/2017 - 13:26
      +7

      I know what you mean, but it is an Android phone now, not their secure OS.

      However for a mid range phone with that price, damn it has some pretty nice specs.

      808 chipset, 1440p OLED with a 3410 mAh battery, slide out keyboard, I'm so tempted to buy one myself if I didn't already have a sony XZ Dual with the XZ Premium Dual on preorder…

    • ChadHominem on 25/05/2017 - 17:42

      I don't see how OP's story warrants your skeptical tone

      • [Deactivated] on 25/05/2017 - 17:45
        -3

        i like dogs, but i dont like you.

        [Deactivated] on 25/05/2017 - 17:45 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
    • virhlpool on 25/05/2017 - 20:05
      +1

      You live in an old world, mate! BB phones now come with Android OS, so essentially no different than other Android phones. Plus, BB is a very durable brand - you can't deny that. BB Hub is their awesome feature and their keyboard works like butter. It comes from my past experience with BB phones.

    • Savas on 25/05/2017 - 20:19

      lol guess its a no?

    • Braintrain1000 on 26/05/2017 - 07:42
      +1

      This is the most hated comment of all times.

      • PainToad on 26/05/2017 - 07:49

        pffff, I've been negged lower.

        • [Deactivated] on 26/05/2017 - 08:09

          same!
          isnt the record like 360

        • the urbanite on 31/05/2017 - 12:42

          @tuzii: Who was that?

    • onlinepred on 25/05/2017 - 13:56
      +2

      Still going? Just released a new phone too

        • MasterScythe on 25/05/2017 - 15:53
          +8

          BlackBerryMobile, was only just founded. It's owned by TCL, who are FAR from dead. They also make Alcatel, which is ALSO far from dead.

          Blackberry, the Canadian company, just signed off to make ALL of the software for GM (cars). They're doing phenomenally well, you must be stuck in 2015.

        • bbtlovebbt on 25/05/2017 - 17:01

          @MasterScythe: just another brand of TCL now?

        • KBZ on 25/05/2017 - 19:43

          @bbtlovebbt:
          BBM aka TCL is doing hardware. BB moving on to being a software company. Sorta like what IBM did.

        • HentaiEnjoyer on 25/05/2017 - 19:57
          -1

          Why are you talking out of your ass like this? What's the point?

        • paloverde88 on 25/05/2017 - 22:55

          @MasterScythe:

          "They also make Alcatel, which is ALSO far from dead"

          and Alctel phones are usually sold at Supermarkets at $29 and no one buys them.

        • MasterScythe on 26/05/2017 - 10:27

          @paloverde88:
          They're also sold at Optus and Telstra as their prepaid handsets, rebadged under fancy 'Carrier Names', and they sell out like hotcakes.

          Can you link me to one available for $29 please? I wouldn't mind an Idol X4

        • MasterScythe on 26/05/2017 - 10:29

          @bbtlovebbt: The contract isn't public, but if you spend enough time reading John Chens discussions it hints at a very particular deal.

          TCL\Alcatel own the hardware. But part of the Acquisition of the IP, is LIKELY, that they need to release at least a single QWERTY phone each year, and that BlackberryCanada still gets to Yay or Nay the design.

          It's RUMORED that they own the rights to brand the phones, but BB canada still own the "keyboard" IP.

    • virhlpool on 25/05/2017 - 20:07

      Your info is dead, mate. BB Phones are rocking with Android now.

      • paloverde88 on 25/05/2017 - 22:56
        +1

        And rocking with brand new Kit Kat software how advance!

  • thisispants on 25/05/2017 - 13:26
    +16

    It just runs Android now, why the blackberry hate?

    • [Deactivated] on 25/05/2017 - 14:11
      +68

      Ignorant bogans struggling to pay off their iPhones?

    • MasterScythe on 25/05/2017 - 15:58
      +25

      I don't get it either….
      As far as I know, blackberry never did anything 'wrong' by the masses.
      They were amazing. Then they lagged behind. Now they're catching up.
      I don't recall them ever shitting on their customers, so I'm not sure why the hate…..

      Another thing to note; BlackBerryMobile, was only just founded.
      It's owned by TCL, who are FAR from dead.
      They also make Alcatel, which is ALSO far from dead.
      We're a week away from the BlackberryMobile KeyOne launch, which has sold out pre-orders and stock in every country it's released in so far (which to be fair is the UK and Canada, but still, selling out is selling out).

      As for the Canadian company that USED TO make the phones?
      Blackberry, just signed off to make ALL of the software for GM (cars). They're doing phenomenally well.

      I'm pretty sure it's just "Generation Sheeple" bleating loudly about how they own an iPhone or Samsung-Something.
      "PAY ATTENTION TO ME! PAY ATTENTION TO ME! LOOK HOW MUCH MONEY I SPENT TO BE THE SAME AS OTHERS".
      As someone who is tech and consumer savvy, I see iPhones or the big Android names and think, "Wow, too bad you spent 6X the Xaiomi, it's not as good!" At least thanks to Woolworths some people are starting to recognize Oppo.

      There's nothing wrong with the (apple\sam) product (besides arguably the price), but I've thought on this for a LONG time and I can't figure out any other reason people "attack" cool things, other than jealousy or the "you're different, we'll bully you!" mentality.

      • iridiumstem on 25/05/2017 - 16:15

        I don't think RIM was making the right decisions, if you just consider their smartphone business. Be fair, RIM was losing money on smartphone side of the business more and more and they probably are better off now with TCL producing the phones instead.

        Anyways, one of my friend is a big fan of QWERTY keyboard. I genuinely felt sorry for her in terms of what she had as her options. All BB phones were outdated in terms of hardware it packed, with a hefty price tag. Priv probably was the first phone that made me go, she might have a better option. That said she was waiting for an upgrade for a very very long time.

        I kinda think how people see BB brand is due to how they've basically done their business. It takes time for a business to redeem their brand.

        • MasterScythe on 25/05/2017 - 16:29
          +4

          But it's not even the same company anymore! It's TCL now.
          Blackberry =/= Blackberry Mobile.

          RIM made some bad software decisions some would argue.
          But really it was all in Marketing, IMO.
          As an example;
          So few people knew that BBOS10 had a full time Android Emulator, so you got BOTH app stores.
          "Blackberry has no apps" people would yell.
          "What, is the Google Play Store not big enough for you?" I'd reply….
          And they'd be very confused.

          I owned all the BBOS phones, I also owned a few Android phones during that time.
          I ALSO ALSO used an iphone 5 for a month or so.
          None are 'better'. BBOS suited me more, mainly because I didnt need to install any apps to do my work. It all 'just worked'.
          But I can imagine that, if people had a social network, or wanted to play games, or wanted to watch TV on a 5" screen (wwwhhhyyyy) that the iphone\android solutions would have been easier.

        • iridiumstem on 25/05/2017 - 16:33

          @MasterScythe: How many people do you think know that? I think until the brand becomes less tainted with the old reputation, people will constantly say "BB is dead".

          Though, I think what people say about BB is partially due to how BB phones are completely against the trends of the smartphone market. Larger screen estate is the trend, so not many people will appreciate what BB phones offer. That doesn't mean they are bad, but it just means that BB phones are targeting niche market.

        • MasterScythe on 25/05/2017 - 16:40

          @Oversimplified:

          Probably at least a few million. TCL were quite vocal about their new acquisition in China.
          There's a great many thousands on Crackberry.com alone who CERTAINLY know that.
          I'd probably suggest ANYONE who has a stock portfolio in tech would know this for sure.

          Basically, anyone above the 'pleb' class of human.

          One point though;
          "All BB phones were outdated in terms of hardware it packed, with a hefty price tag."
          That's a very "white paper" response people assert a lot.

          If you're a PC gamer at all;
          Can I offer you a new overclocked i7 system with 128GB of RAM, SLI 1080TI's etc etc?
          Oh, but you're only allowed a 1024X768 15" LCD screen…. Pay me top dollar.
          You'd say no, because all the impressive hardware in the world can't make up for it's shortcoming; the one key thing you interact with.

          The same can be said for BB's devices.
          You can cram all the cores, and GPU's and RAM into a phone you want.
          It doesn't make my email, spreadsheet, PDF or webpage faster.

          You tell me I can't touchtype without looking at my phone, or can't type accurately while driving off road, or can't assign instant hardware shortcuts without an additional bluetooth keyboard?
          Then what's the use of being able to type at all.
          As above. I'd say no.

          It's not about the brand, it's not about the OS, it's about the one part of the device I interact with most.
          And it was missing.

        • iridiumstem on 25/05/2017 - 17:08

          @MasterScythe: Unless you are interested in tech, people in general don't really look into what phone companies do. I genuinely like following tech stuff, but I do think TCL and RIM might've gone under my radar if I wasn't looking into those two.

          Anyways, if you really want me to back my words, "all BB phones were outdated in terms of hardware it packed, with a hefty price tag". I did say "were", I kinda think Priv is alright, even though it's expensive. If they made it avaiable in Australia at cheaper price, I might've gone for it.

          My friend has, and I still think uses, a Q10, it's like a 4 years old model. Other than the Passport, I can't think of a model that's significantly better than Q10. She's still using it as a result. That's talking within the BBOS phones.

          My friend would've needed to pay around the same price as what I paid for my phone (second hand 128GB S6) in 2015 for Passport. If I compare the SoC alone, that's 2 years difference. I honestly cannot think of any other reason other than the keyboard for someone to make that trade off.

          I can see that you value the keyboard that much, that said, I cannot justify that kind of trade off myself. I assume so does many people looking at how RIM did.

        • ruprectaus on 25/05/2017 - 19:27

          @MasterScythe:

          I currently have a Blackberry DTEK 60. I was going to get a NOTE 7 but we know how that turned out and got the DTEK as a wait until the NOTE 8 comes out … but… I never play games.. and now am SERIOUSLY considering the new KeyONE and give my DTEK60 to the gf as her Nexus 5 is getting past it.

          The priv has a few issues I believe

          https://www.reddit.com/r/blackberry/

          As an Android phone it gets very regular security updates (every month), the UI footprint is light … and I like the Blackberry Hub software

        • marquise on 25/05/2017 - 19:33
          +4

          Are RIM hiring? I wouldn't mind a RIM job.

          marquise on 25/05/2017 - 19:33 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
        • CVonC on 25/05/2017 - 22:17

          @ruprectaus:

          any deals for the dtek60? looks like a good spec'd phone

        • iridiumstem on 25/05/2017 - 22:20

          @MasterScythe: Anyways, I think I went all over the place with what I wrote. I basically think RIM made mistakes here and there and that has tainted the entire branding. The phones should've been at least comparable to other OSs' flagship phones or it should've been more affordable. The phones needed something other than the keyboard, or at least other aspects of the phones needed to be at least as good as the competition. RIM has lost market share and I think that's to blame.

          BlackBerry has changed a lot of that, I do think since Priv or even Passport, they have started introducing phones that no longer feels unjustifiably expensive for what they are. I'd say Priv was expensive (at least release price), but I don't think it was ridiculously overpriced for what it is. I kinda was interested in it.

          Anyways, so my opinion is, the phone branding still needs to redeem for the mistakes that was made before. What that will require is, in my opinion, iterations after iterations of decent phones. That'd take time. That's not because people have something against BlackBerry, that's just how things are. Look at LG for example, I don't think LG will be able to get rid of "Bootloop" from their brand until they release iterations after iterations of decent phones.

          My TL;DR is, brand name has been tainted and that'd take time to fix.

        • paloverde88 on 25/05/2017 - 22:58

          @MasterScythe:

          I had a playbook once, it is indeed just to play with when sitting on the throne. Not much else you cannot edit office file there's virtually no apps. It never came with sim slots just wifi.

        • MasterScythe on 26/05/2017 - 10:20

          @Oversimplified:

          Unless you are interested in tech, people in general don't really look into what phone companies do.

          I honestly disagree, I hear from my Bogan mates long before I know "Oh man did you see the new iPhone, it's SICK" or "Samsung has a bigger screen, how DANK is that?"
          When it comes to phone companies, somehow, the bogans often know more than the nerds (maybe because they live off them and don't have other commitments?)

          I can see that you value the keyboard that much, that said, I cannot justify that kind of trade off myself. I assume so does many people looking at how RIM did.

          Yes, you got it :)
          And this is where people usually don't stop and think.

          It's a safe bet that people who "Like blackberry" are here for the QWERTY keyboard.
          So when they walk in and say "Wow the specs are bad for the price", all the fans stare at you and go;
          "Does it even have a single competitor?"

          I'd pay upwards of $500 extra for a QWERTY keyboard.
          Since it's literally a tradeoff between "usable" and "not at all usable" for me.
          As I said, try typing on a touchscreen while smashing through desert or bush in a 4x4, you tap EVERYTHING.
          Hardware qwerty? No problem.

          But you did it again;

          "If I compare the SoC alone, that's 2 years difference. I honestly cannot think of any other reason other than the keyboard for someone to make that trade off."

          There is no tradeoff;
          Thats what people seem blind to in modern 'sheeple' consumerism.
          Thats what I said earlier about people using the White Paper to argue a use case.

          the Q10 opens PDF's, Word Documents, my contact list, makes calls and opens Images, INSTANTLY.
          No delay at all;
          Quite literally.
          Sure, put a faster SoC in it, what's it going to do?!?
          Open for me in the past?
          Open BEFORE I ask for it?
          Can't get much faster than instantly….

          By getting a KeyOne or a Priv, I gain a keyboard, and sacrifice…what?
          Is the S8 really going to make calls "better"?
          Is it going to let me get that PDF off to the client any faster?
          Can it search my contact list quicker? (probably the most done thing on a phone)
          If anything, the S8 would be the Tradeoff….
          Lose the keyboard, and gain…. well I don't know.

          As I said above, I can only imagine the people fighting for conformity are people who use things like Facebook, Snapchat, and I don't know, Tinder? Is that still a thing?

          People who have an "Online social life" rather than meeting up with mates after work.

          The phones should've been at least comparable to other OSs' flagship phones or it should've been more affordable.

          Out of the box features were MORE, other phones needed 'Apps' to work.
          Also, the Passport was 33% cheaper than an iPhone. How much more affordable do you need?

          The phones needed something other than the keyboard, or at least other aspects of the phones needed to be at least as good as the competition.

          If you use your phone for music; Stereo separation was WAY better. So was SnR ratio.
          Battery life was phenomenally better.
          OS security was MUCH better.
          MicroSD support at a time when most had removed it.
          Full VPN support at OS level.
          Brightest torch, by FAR.

          What aspect needed to be 'better'?

          RIM has lost market share and I think that's to blame.

          Sorry I'm confused, do "Most people" NOT follow 'what mobile phone companies are doing', or DO they?
          For the above statement to have any impact, your earlier one, about people not following them, can't be true.

        • iridiumstem on 26/05/2017 - 12:18

          @MasterScythe: When I said most people don't care about what tech companies do, I meant it as in outside of products, I thought that was clearly implied with how I said, the brand will become less tainted with the old reputation with better products being released.

          I will give you an example. A significant event, of one company buying out another has happened, in 2016. That purchase will cause huge impact outside smartphones, Even though one of the major news company has covered it fairly extensively, not many would be able to guess. No one here probably heard about LSI's roadmap being released few days ago. It's probably very uncommon knowledge for someone to even know what LSI is. That's what I mean, people don't usually go into depth about phone industry that much. Those two events will have a huge impact, first one will have impact on entire tech industry in my opinion and second one will have impact on majority of smart devices that has a processer in it.

          I honestly hope BB brings out phones that appeal to everyone. QWERTY keyboard is a nice feature that I do see an appeal in. Other parts of the phones had always been making me go, I am not going to sacrifice that much for the keyboard. In your usage case, better SoC might not do much. That said, better ISP (which leads to better photos), better DAC, better power efficiency, better performance for things like VR, games and video playbacks (x265 playback is fairly recent feature). Other than SoC, having the ability to use the phone for payments and automate/control things in the household are two of most used feature on my phone. I use my smartphone to track my life style. I use an app to calculate my calorie intake and nutrients using what I ate. I've lost 12kg since I've done that.

          I am like the tech guy among my friends, and so I tend to be the one that gives advices on phone purchases. I recommend phones based on the person so a lot of brands get brought up. I genuinely couldn't tell my friend who uses Q10 what to get for an upgrade other than the passport (which she didn't like).

          As I said before, post RIM, BB Ltd era phones seems to have changed that (other than the price tag, which I think can be justified). I genuinely was interested in Priv and KeyOne looks really nice. That said, I don't think those have made that much changes to the brand name just yet. I genuinely think RIM's mistakes are biting BB Ltd right now.

        • MasterScythe on 26/05/2017 - 12:43

          @Oversimplified:

          Those two events will have a huge impact, first one will have impact on entire tech industry in my opinion and second one will have impact on majority of smart devices that has a processer in it.

          You're very correct.
          Difference in these examples is that things like the LSI roadmap is a part, within a product (to the end consumer).
          So I dont feel it's a fair comparison to people not "following what phone comes out".
          It's equivalent to me asking someone "Wow, have you seen that new Exynos processor?!? It's FAST!", probably not.
          But if I asked "Have you seen that new Samsung phone?! It's FAST!" the chance is people will say yes.

          We can agree to disagree, but I still feel that more often than not, MOST people know what new phones are coming out. and MOST people can tell you who made them.
          APPLE Iphone, SAMSUNG S8, HUAWEI P10, SONY Xperia etc etc.

          I honestly hope BB brings out phones that appeal to everyone.

          I don't; 'people' as a whole don't value what's important. They just dont know it yet.

          That said, better ISP (which leads to better photos)

          Passport had OPTICAL stabilization. it was golden.

          better DAC

          It's (BB devices) always had the best DAC on the market.

          better power efficiency

          Passport made 3 days heavy use per charge.

          better performance for things like VR

          VR phone calls are VERY rare and need a dedicated room.
          This need would be rare.

          Games

          I'll INSTANTLY agree to disagree.
          Im VERY elitist on gaming.

          Most people who game on their phones are LITERALLY wasting time, they're not competing, they're not learning, I give this literally 0 percent care factor.

          For that 1 in 100 who actually takes mobile gaming competitively, I tip my hat.

          video playbacks

          Passport had HDMI out, which basically no others could do.

          x265 playback is fairly recent feature

          Yep, but even without GPU acceleration, the Passport CPU didnt max out decoding X265. My movies are compressed in it.

          Other than that having the ability to use the phone for payments

          That works.

          automate/control things in the household

          Yep, works.

          Plus, I use my smartphone to track my life style (record calorie intake using an app that matches calories based on what I ate and reminders). I've lost 12kg, so it must be helping at least.

          Does that too (I use the Calorie King website and scan the barcode).

          I genuinely don't want to sound like an ass.
          I'm not trying to be one, and I'm not trying to be elitist either (except with games; filthy mouthbreathing casuals).

          I'm just trying to get you to open your mind to the idea that while a device can do many things, it's about the quality at which it does them that is equally, if not more, important.

          Reliable physical input, perfect background noise cancellation, a battery you can count on no matter how you use it, built in support for your common work tools\formats (pdf, txt, doc, xls, etc…) without needing "apps".
          Instant access to your most common tools (address book\contacts, email, etc), build quality\ruggedness the list goes on.

          I mean, my god, MOST phones risk cracking screens from ONE drop.
          Is it that hard for a company to use some logic and realize that with a bigger bezel, you could protect it?

          Don't misunderstand, I'm still in my 20's. I know that "apps" seem to make the world go around.
          I call people, I txt people, I MMS people, I email people, I VISIT people (shock horror)….

          I know a great many people who have "added an app" to do all these things their device ALREADY does.
          But outside of addiction, removing all the useless apps (tinder, snapchat, instagram, etc) doesn't limit your ability to function in life, or for your phone to phone!
          I'll let you keep facebook messenger, as it's the MSN of the young generation :P

          All those apps, features, and what not, are "Nice to have", but at the cost of: device security, reliability, ruggedness, and tactile feedback (use to name a few)? No thanks.

          Is wasting time on "apps" really worth compromising the overall user experience and quality (as in, prestige) of a device?
          I argue, no.

        • MasterScythe on 26/05/2017 - 13:34

          @Oversimplified:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdeEloPh3EE

          worth a watch. Makes good points without fanboying too hard.

          As a note, I'd suggest the DTEK60 is good value, also.

        • iridiumstem on 26/05/2017 - 14:54

          @MasterScythe: I kinda mentioned this and I will mention this again, I do think BlackBerry Ltd's phones are alright. Pre-BlackBerry Ltd phones are not. I've deliberately used RIM and BB seperately, but I should've been more clearer I guess. That's after Passport (BB Ltd name change was 2013, Passport is 2014). So that'd include Priv, DTEK series, KeyOne (which isn't released, but it looks interesting nonetheless) and Passport.

          It's not to say that their products before that were trash, it's just that the phones had nothing but the keypad going on for them before that and everything else was being compensated by that for someone like me at least. At least that's what I saw them as. I do think that's why their market share has fallen, not because people are sheeple.

          BlackBerry has changed a lot of that, I do think since Priv or even Passport, they have started introducing phones that no longer feels unjustifiably expensive for what they are. I'd say Priv was expensive (at least release price), but I don't think it was ridiculously overpriced for what it is. I kinda was interested in it.

          I do think TCL producing the phones was at least a good move for them:

          I don't think RIM was making the right decisions, if you just consider their smartphone business. Be fair, RIM was losing money on smartphone side of the business more and more and they probably are better off now with TCL producing the phones instead.

          Anyways I did kinda say/imply Passport wasn't on the list for my friend (who uses Q10) which might've given you an impression that I think Passport is a bad phone. That was more because she didn't want a Passport for few reasons (like size and price). I kinda skipped that bit and it may have seem like I was trashing Passport. I don't think Passport is a bad phone.

          Anyways, I do think after they changed their name to BB Ltd, they are making phones are reasonable.

          Hence why I did say,

          the phone branding still needs to redeem for the mistakes that was made before. What that will require is, in my opinion, iterations after iterations of decent phones. That'd take time.

          I have things to do and I am repeating self now so I will tell you my opinion in summary. You can take it or leave it. In short, I don't think BB phones that are currently available are bad (so post BB Ltd phones). I just think their brand name has been damaged severely from their older phones (pre BB Ltd phones) and how they fell from the top. I do think that's why people make fun of BB.

        • AustriaBargain on 27/05/2017 - 21:30

          You could always get pretty smart looking cases for iPhone and Android with a full qwerty keyboards built in. They connect to the phone over bluetooth so are totally compatible. If you pay a lot (like $100) you can get really high quality ones or you could go cheap and they keyboard would still work fine because bluetooth is pretty much universal and anyone can make an iOS compatible full qwerty keyboard if they wanted.

  • greenie4242 on 25/05/2017 - 13:31
    +2

    If this could be rooted I'd buy it in a second. Sadly their secure system means it probably never will be :(

    I only need root for backups. That's all. Just backups.

    • thisispants on 25/05/2017 - 13:41
      +1

      For what other reasons would one root their phone?

      • PainToad on 25/05/2017 - 13:55
        +6

        Many.

        • onlinepred on 25/05/2017 - 13:58
          -5

          Yea… need to block ads….and backup your phone….and install custom roms….and that's literally it. Root is going to be a thing of the past soon. Most root to get custom roms for themes etc but even that is being built into AOSP soon.

        • PainToad on 25/05/2017 - 15:09
          +4

          @OnlinePred:

          You generally don't need root to flash custom roms, you need a custom recovery/fastboot (or an unlocked bootloader).

          Also, there are many others reasons to root. Some of mine:
          * Sending audio from apps to Chromecast/AirPlay/DLNA that don't natively supported it.
          * Recording phone calls.
          * Enabling an SSH proxy.
          * Fixing incorrect video game controller mapping.
          * Hiding the navigation bar to prevent screen burn-in.
          * Enabling Pie-Controls (this is essential on big phones imo). Non-root methods suck.

          Root is going to be a thing of the past soon

          No, it really won't be.

        • dufflover on 25/05/2017 - 15:46

          @OnlinePred: I've noticed AOSP going backwards actually. Gimped lockscreen shortcuts, limited tile options for the pull down notification quick menu, etc.

          In terms of things like shortcuts and quick access to common things my Priv on Android 6.0.1 is a lot "slower" to use than my old S4 prev running PACMAN 4.4.4 ROM.

          Another simple thing I can't do without root now is a very simple thing I had on my old phone of moving all download, bluetooth and a selection of other files automatically to the SD card (removable safe source, etc.). The nature of increased security means this is not allowed anymore; at least easily anyway when I had a basic shell script running on start up.

        • RedHab on 25/05/2017 - 15:52
          +1

          @OnlinePred: Sadly root will be a thing of the past due to copyright digital rights management.

          Netflix and soon Youtube and other video players will not work on rooted or even unlocked devices ( https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/249348-netflix-no-longer-… )

          Google has an API called Safety Net that tests for root, and developers can stop their apps running on rooted devices.

          You can test for it here
          https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.freeandroi…

        • PainToad on 25/05/2017 - 16:08

          @RedHab:

          Google has an API called Safety Net that tests for root, and developers can stop their apps running on rooted devices.

          Yep, which can easily be worked around within minutes. My phone has an unlocked bootloader, custom rom and root and I pass Saftey Net.

          Again, root isn't going anywhere.

        • RedHab on 25/05/2017 - 16:19

          @PainToad: Interesting, what ROM are you running? Both of my rooted devices fail the Safety Net, and banking apps and Netflix won't work.

        • RocketSwitch on 25/05/2017 - 16:42
          +3

          @PainToad: Yep, easy to bypass it now thanks to Magisk 12.

        • PainToad on 25/05/2017 - 17:58
          +1

          @RedHab:

          Magisk 12

        • starburstyellow on 25/05/2017 - 18:01
          +1

          @justmiike: +1 for this too. Got Lineage OS on Nexus 5x. Bypasses Safetynet with Magisk 12.

        • Ciccillo on 25/05/2017 - 21:17

          @PainToad: True,but you don t need root to record phone calls.Just download the app.

        • troyww on 25/05/2017 - 22:57

          @Ciccillo:
          Pretty sure most phones on android nougat need to be rooted .

        • PainToad on 26/05/2017 - 04:57

          @Ciccillo:

          True,but you don t need root to record phone calls.Just download the app.

          Non rooted methods are almost always unreliable or low quality.

        • Ciccillo on 26/05/2017 - 08:17

          @PainToad: I am using ACR and works great.On Samsung S7 with Nougat ,Total recall works great as well.No root required.

        • RedHab on 26/05/2017 - 09:04

          @PainToad: Thanks for all the advice! Will try out Magisk 12.

      • Chroma on 26/05/2017 - 23:33
        -1

        Cloning apps and data between devices or on the same device without each being seen as a separate fresh install.
        Enabling screenshots in apps that disallow it out of a naive idea of 'security'.
        Remapping hardware buttons
        Disabling annoying oversensitive hardware buttons
        Uninstalling bloatware and unwanted stock apps
        Backing up data for apps with 'allowBackup' flag disabled
        Allowing to fake inputs (e.g. GPS location, phone contacts) for apps which refuse to start without that permission but have no right to my data or personal information

        Most of all: because it's my phone, and I'll do what I want with it.

    • jerjergege on 25/05/2017 - 13:44
      +1

      Yep, they are the better than google at the frequent security updates, also there is a 900USD bounty for anyone that is able to hack it.

      After finding this deal I have done some research on the phone, makes me want one except these days it must be dual sim, and waterproof.

  • Ryanek on 25/05/2017 - 13:36

    Blackberry… Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time

    • jerjergege on 25/05/2017 - 13:39
      +1

      They're trying to get back in the game, they have a bounty for 900USD to anyone that can hack their modded android, no one has done it yet.

      Pretty decently speced

      • Diji1 on 25/05/2017 - 14:00
        +1

        Probably because they're working at getting $500,000 for hacking a device that people use.

        • pegaxs on 25/05/2017 - 23:10
          +2

          That's what I was thinking… "Woah! A whole US$900???, that's crazy money!" Who are they seeking to crack their phone? 14yo script kiddies looking for a school project??

    • thisispants on 25/05/2017 - 13:50

      … Long time.

  • LHSolutions on 25/05/2017 - 13:38
    +3

    This phone has impressive frequent android security updates…

    The only thing I did not like about it was that it got a bit too hot for my liking when doing large updates or playing games.

    For that price its a very nice quality phone :)

    • sigma on 25/05/2017 - 15:01

      I assume security updates are specific to Android version - how about Android 7.0 update? can this phone be updated?

  • goingDHfast on 25/05/2017 - 13:39
    -3

    BlackBerry Priv = BlackBerry Pron ?

  • Tafe on 25/05/2017 - 13:39
    +2

    Cool phone… Tempting but it's gotta be dual sim these days or no deal

    • onlinepred on 25/05/2017 - 13:59

      Why does everyone have two sims?

      • LHSolutions on 25/05/2017 - 14:06
        +4

        One for work and one for private life or if you have two girlfriends :) lol

      • WatchNerd on 25/05/2017 - 14:45
        +6

        One is your main phone number, the other takes advantage of cheap pre-paid data sims that are posted on Ozbargain.

        • Tafe on 25/05/2017 - 14:50
          +4

          For me it's x 1 personal, x 1 business… but all of the above are good reasons too

        • AustriaBargain on 27/05/2017 - 21:31

          Sounds like a PITA to save a few bucks on data.

  • melcool on 25/05/2017 - 13:41

    looking for a deal for BB CLASSIC Q20. :p

  • Mikinoz on 25/05/2017 - 13:45

    Sweet been waiting for the price to drop

  • wpw on 25/05/2017 - 13:52
    +1

    @jerjergege
    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/305485
    Item (1) US $224.99
    Postage US $27.97
    Vouchers -US $11.24
    Order total US $241.72

    About AUD $322.18

  • LHSolutions on 25/05/2017 - 13:55

    Shame that the new BlackBerry KeyOne has not improved much.

    The specs are similar to Priv just a big price difference lol :)

    • MasterScythe on 25/05/2017 - 16:45
      +1

      Keyboard is better, it has the Pixel (sony) camera sensor, and it's a candybar form factor.
      Find me a competitor with those key features I want, and I'll get that instead :)

  • [Deactivated] on 25/05/2017 - 13:56
    -8

    Stop trying to make BlackBerry happen
    Its not gong to happen

    • [Deactivated] on 25/05/2017 - 14:16
      +8

      Would that ruin your world?

  • Wallace on 25/05/2017 - 14:40

    Definitely not for everyone but great for those that do a lot of messaging/SMS.

  • senectus on 25/05/2017 - 14:48
    +6

    heads up guys.. if you buy one of these it may not work 100%

    The STV100-1 isnt terribly well suited to Aussie 4G

    You want the STV100-3 or the STV100-4

    • The J man on 25/05/2017 - 14:58

      Yeah, seems like there's no band 28?

      • senectus on 25/05/2017 - 15:01
        +3

        I buy these for work, the STV100-3 or STV100-4 will work just fine…

        They're actually quite nice phones… Am looking forward to laying hands on a KeyOne, the battery in that thing is gonna be UGE!

    • dufflover on 25/05/2017 - 15:28

      (never mind, I have a -3 after all)

      • melbstheburn on 25/05/2017 - 16:11

        if you decide to sell for a reasonable price let me know :)

        • dufflover on 25/05/2017 - 16:20

          haha probably never will. Unless someone else releases a good landscape hardware keyboard phone. Might be waiting a while though ;)

        • melbstheburn on 25/05/2017 - 16:44

          @dufflover: I really want a priv but I think it is a little over priced at the moment, Ideally I would love the Keyone ( as I have a Classic) but I just can't afford it at the moment :(.
          What are your thoughts on the Keyone?

        • ChadHominem on 25/05/2017 - 17:59

          @slimdavy5: For the priv I think the price is about right for a phone with a 1440p curved oled screen. Those things aren't cheap (especially to repair/replace).

      • OzSikh on 25/05/2017 - 18:57

        Thanks mate.

      • bargaineer on 26/05/2017 - 13:19
        -1

        Not really. On Telstra and Optus, you don't get their low band LTE, so you miss out on a huge layer of their networks. This doesn't just affect rural areas either, if you're inside a building in a metro area, there is a good chance you'll fall back to 3G.

        If you get this phone on Vodafone, you'll be fine.

  • rodericb on 25/05/2017 - 14:49
    +1

    Great price for a good phone. It will update to Marshmallow when you first power it up. Rear camera is pretty good, 4k video, Wolfson DAC and quite a beefy headphone amp. Plus the BB apps like Hub+ and even the Privacy Screen if you are suspicious of people looking over your shoulder.

  • sigma on 25/05/2017 - 15:05
    +1

    How about warranty? is it similar like Apple wordwide or country specific?

    • jerjergege on 25/05/2017 - 15:20
      +1

      I'm afraid I don't know, I've not dealt with them before.

  • apptrack on 25/05/2017 - 15:13

    I've got a DTEK60, best phone I've ever owned.

    • CVonC on 25/05/2017 - 22:16

      any deals for this?

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