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The Inno3D GeForce GTX 1080 Ti X2 graphics card features a 1480MHz base clock with a 1582MHz boost clock, 11GB 352-bit GDDR5X memory, PCI-E 3.0, 3584 CUDA cores, OpenGL 4.5 support, DirectX 12 support, Dual-Link DVI-D, HDMI 2.0b and 3x DisplayPort 1.4. The GeForce GTX 1080 Ti is NVIDIA’s new flagship gaming GPU, based on the NVIDIA Pascal architecture. The latest addition to the ultimate gaming platform, this card is packed with extreme gaming horsepower, next-gen 11 Gbps GDDR5X memory, and a massive 11 GB frame buffer.

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  • butter on 20/09/2018 - 11:34
    +26

    pretty much same performance as an RTX2080 for much less.

    • kudoz on 20/09/2018 - 11:41
      -8

      Only in older games (and some recent)… seems it won't be the case in the next few months - year…

      • Diji1 on 20/09/2018 - 11:43
        +16

        seems it won't be the case

        Yeah, I'll take current performance as a guide rather than Nvidia's marketing regarding technology that devs have hardly used yet.

        Particularly when I'm paying $1000 more to get this unused technology lmao.

        • kudoz on 20/09/2018 - 11:53
          +6

          2080 FE is only $1200 including shipping from nvidia (so $300 more than this…)

          but I get what you mean…

        • lostn on 20/09/2018 - 12:00
          +6

          @kudoz: Founder's Edition is a rip off. At the moment they're taking advantage of early adopters who will pay anything. When that market dries up, we'll see reasonable prices. We go through this cycle every time Nvidia releases new hardware.

          Just wait a few months for other OEMs to release their own designs.

        • Flyingmoo on 20/09/2018 - 12:16
          +3

          @kudoz:

          The FE cooler is rubbish. 10 degrees hotter than AIB cards

        • jasswolf on 20/09/2018 - 13:08
          +4

          Ok, let's take DLSS off the table for the moment (keeping in mind it presents as a 1.3-1.4x performance boost over any figures).

          We're currently seeing the 2080 do the following compared to a 1080ti of similar build quality:

          • 0-5% performance increase in standard DX11, and DX11 games that have a DX12 wrapper (i.e. not really current gen)
          • 10-15% increase with DX12 async compute (current tech)

          Then on top of that, it is able to do half-precision math (FP16), which is what makes consoles relatively powerful today despite lesser GPUs (Pascal had this basically disabled at launch because it was a failure), and also part of what makes AMD GPUs so good for Vulkan-based games. In AMD's case, this boosts performance by something like 1.2x.

          Then on top of that, there's mesh shaders, which help eliminate a lot of today's CPU bottlenecks.

          All of the above incremental features are able to implemented fairly quickly by game developers, with DLSS the only one subject to further delay (via NVIDIA, but they are claiming this is a quick process).

          TL;DR: these new cards have headroom which can be quickly utilised, and this will validate the price point for the 2080 and lower cards.

          Do not be fooled into the review benchmark theatre that is going on, it is entirely designed to light a fire under both game developers and NVIDIA alike so they can get access to (or clearance to provide) numbers for the shiny new stuff.

          What's sad is that said reviewers should be gearing their arguments around getting great value for their viewers and readers, and instead are effectively helping NVIDIA clear any excess old stock.

        • furythree on 20/09/2018 - 13:46

          @jasswolf: or i could just get a 1080ti and buy a RTX card in a few months time once prices have come down with no risk whether devs actually utilize its features or not

        • jasswolf on 20/09/2018 - 13:49
          +6

          @furythree: How is the disposal value on the 1080ti not a risk? Also, are there no fully compliant DX12 or Vulkan games today?

          I'm not advocating to buy either card today, I'm advocating that the early value in this new series is not well understood because the API updates to unlock the performance have only just launched publicly, so most developers have had little to no access to them.

        • Ryballs on 20/09/2018 - 14:07

          @furythree: or you could wait for AMD 7nm graphics cards coming soon.. https://www.techspot.com/news/76163-amd-hands-tsmc-entire-7n…

          Apparently NVIDIA is waiting until 2020 to replace their 12nm Turing cards with 7nm.

        • arbok on 20/09/2018 - 14:08
          +2

          @jasswolf:

          Good analysis, jasswolf, could explain why the wolfenstein numbers i saw were so far ahead of other games.

          But the value proposition is still disappointing for many gamers with the RTX series so far, especially Pascal users who have a 1070 or better. With a 1060, I could see users upgrading if they wanted 4k. But a 1070~1080? Almost $2000 for an RTX 2080 Ti is the only true upgrade. $1500 for 50% performance increase for a 2080 over a 1070.

          Prices will probably stay high for next gen, but at least there may be more performance improvement for the price I pay. If I'm paying $1000 I want at least 2x or 3x the performance.

        • chubbychicken on 20/09/2018 - 14:35
          +2

          @arbok:

          Better off upgrading from 1070 to 1080Ti… especially at 899. You will get roughly 2080 performance at 40% less cost.

        • Chewy Chunks on 20/09/2018 - 14:51
          +3

          Yeah, I'll take current performance as a guide rather than Nvidia's marketing regarding technology that devs have hardly used yet.

          Aww, come one, man. Just buy it. I know when my life flashes before my eyes I don't want to regret the lack of ray tracing in it.

        • jasswolf on 20/09/2018 - 15:56

          @Ryballs: Right, but it's important to understand that you're talking about TSMC's 7nm vs 7nm EUV (aka TSMC's 7nm+, Samsung's 7nm, Intel's 10nm, which no one has successfully started to scale yet).

          Early 7nm: low yield, mostly used in phones, but there are higher power variants that could work for mid-range GPUs and CPUs (Navi as a 1080 competitor, Ryzen)

          7nm EUV: potentially higher yield, with much better patterning (i.e. predictable behaviour under load), allowing for (relatively) cheaper, denser and larger implementations at higher clocks with greater efficiency.

          The whole reason there's been so much upheaval in the market share for Intel lately is because they've been stuck on this problem years.

          But I digress, Navi's silicon will be a step-up from the RTX 20 series in terms of performance per watt, but it will probably not scale past 1080 performance, and both AMD and NVIDIA's 2020 offerings will be vastly superior.

          But otherwise we're in agreement: if you're rocking a Pascal chip today and don't have a 4k144hz monitor, save your money for 2020.

        • jasswolf on 20/09/2018 - 16:06

          @arbok: I compare the 2080ti to something like a Titan X from the Pascal series, that will eventually drop to 2080 pricing when Navi launches.

          If you own a Pascal card and aren't struggling to power your monitor's resolution and refresh rate, there's no reason to make the jump up unless you desperately want things like raytracing and DLSS 2x (which aims to infer 64x SSAA at no additional general performance cost).

          This is not a card series launch that invites the same instant performance jump as Maxwell to Pascal, but if things continue to pick up steam, it will be Q2-Q3 next year.

          If you're jumping in from 2 or 3 generations back, the lower-binned variants of these GPUs present as great value (for example, the corresponding version of the 2080 looks like it will be around $1000 MSRP, or about $900 in early sales).

          That range of pricing would nullify this argument entirely.

        • KARMAAA on 20/09/2018 - 17:10

          @kudoz: $300 more for the same performance in regular rasterised games… Really not worth it.

        • Budju on 20/09/2018 - 19:52

          @chubbychicken: Do not upgrade a 1070 to a 1080 Ti

    • v8o on 20/09/2018 - 13:04

      Which benchmarks are you getting that from?

      What I got from https://hothardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-performan… is that the 2080 does a lot better than 1080 Ti in most tests. In some cases like the VR tests it's actually doing better than the Titan.

      • jasswolf on 20/09/2018 - 13:14
        +1

        That's if you compare FE to FE, which is arguably an unfair comparison. At the same level of build quality and performance tuning, the gap is much lower in DX11 or DX11-related games.

      • EnegueWeil on 20/09/2018 - 14:09
        +1

        have a look on youtube on the benchmarks from GamerNexus. very detailed. 2080 and 1080ti are almost identical.

    • Budju on 20/09/2018 - 19:03

      Pretty much should have bought this a year ago though

  • tg786 on 20/09/2018 - 11:34

    This or an RTX 2070 for same price?

    • zacsg1 on 20/09/2018 - 11:39
      +12

      This

      • furythree on 20/09/2018 - 13:59
        -1

        this or a slightly used gigabyte aorus 1080ti extreme for $800?

        • Budju on 20/09/2018 - 19:55

          I think I bought a rog strixx brand new for 870 or something 9 months ago, asif buy a used card for 8 hunj

    • Flyingmoo on 20/09/2018 - 11:39
      +2

      This is the same speed as the 2080, for far less money.
      Plus the 2070 doesn't exist yet.

      • lostn on 20/09/2018 - 11:51
        -5

        that's disappointing.

        When 10x0 series released it was a huge upgrade over 9x0.

        1070 is faster than Titan X. And 1060 is equivalent to 980Ti.

        If 1080Ti = 2080, the 20x0 series looks like a much smaller increment.

        • patrioticpickle on 20/09/2018 - 12:03
          +9

          1060 is not equivalent to 980ti. 1070 is.

          1060 is a 970-980.

          These new cards are pretty much the exact performance that we would expect. But with a much higher price due to RTX features.
          980ti was the best 900 series, it then became equal to the second best 1000 series the 1070 (was second best on release). The 1080 was the best.

          Now the best current GPU, 1080ti is equivalent to the new second best, 2080.

          2080ti will be as good as 3080, second best 3000 series (if they follow same naming trend)

        • groook on 20/09/2018 - 12:19
          +2

          @patrioticpickle:

          By this logic the 2070 should be equal to the 1080ti?

        • lostn on 20/09/2018 - 12:20

          @patrioticpickle:

          NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Faster than GTX TITAN X

          At FireStrike (standard), the GTX 1070 scored 17557 points, versus 17396 points of the GTX TITAN X; 8327 points at FireStrike Advanced against 7989; and 4078 points at FireStrike Ultra against 3862, respectively.

          Nvidia unveils the GTX 1060: Faster than a GTX 980 for $250

          Nvidia has unveiled the GTX 1060, the most affordable member of its Pascal-based graphics card lineup yet. Starting at £240/€279/$250 Nvidia claims the GTX 1060 is faster than a GTX 980—a card that costs upwards of $400 (£380)—and features a power-sipping TDP of just 120W.

          I just go by what they tell us before the cards come out. Having said that, it is possible that real world benchmarks don't meet what nvidia claims or the benchmarks of early engineering samples. I'm just taking their word at face value.

          If it was a pound for pound upgrade, 2070 should be claimed to be slightly faster than Titan XP. 2060 should be faster than a 1080. Of course that is based on claims, as is the 10x0 comparison to 9x0, so consistency is maintained.

        • patrioticpickle on 20/09/2018 - 12:48

          @groook: No, last gens best card will be as good as next gens 2nd best card. So 1080ti = 2080. Which appears to be true from the released benchmarks.

        • Bigboomboom on 20/09/2018 - 12:54

          @patrioticpickle: I will wait for 7nm since this wasn't the jump I was expecting. All in all though 2019/2020 looking good with 7nm and DLSS that is often overlooked. My only concern is as with smartphones, even AMD will releasing absurdly high price for high end cards, and NVIDIA will just price their cards even higher since they will still have performance crown.

        • DarthAntz on 20/09/2018 - 12:55

          @lostn:
          Nvidia tells these publishers what to say. higher numbers get sales. When you see the same information in both reviews, thats marketing coming from the top. its effective and easy to believe.

        • patrioticpickle on 20/09/2018 - 13:24

          @lostn:

          The 1070, 980ti and Titan X all trade blows with each other. The 1070 is more efficient than the previous gen and edges out on most titles - Other 2 aren't far behind at all, a little overclocking and they're equal. I wouldn't be fussed on synthetic benchmarks like firestrike, check out some proper gaming benchmarks.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmfMfhRI6To

          https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2453-nvidia-geforce-gt…

          As for the 1060, it has been proven to be incredibly similar to the 980/970 in most titles tested.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UISTSZ-fx_8&t=318s

          https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2518-nvidia-gtx-1060-r…

        • jasswolf on 20/09/2018 - 14:06

          @groook: As modern games push forward technology that's been floating around since 2016, plus these new updates and feature brought in by NVIDIA, this 2070 likely will move past the 1080ti (though mostly via DLSS).

          So for the 2070 to repeat the feats of the 1070, it'll need widespread DLSS support. What's working in favour of that is NVIDIA's rhetoric and pricing, which suggests they will be looking to get DLSS into every game that wants it ASAP.

        • FabMan on 20/09/2018 - 14:11

          @Bigboomboom: 7nm is a bullshit metric. They aren't producing transistors at 7nm, its just a marketing term, trying to be the new Ghz. Just wait ubtil you are happy with a performance to price card and buy it.

        • Bigboomboom on 20/09/2018 - 15:12
          +1

          @FabMan: of course, but it does represent nice node shrink. Now if only Intel actually finish it's 10nm it just might be making a competitive third choice.

      • jasswolf on 20/09/2018 - 13:22
        -1

        Explain how an announced card doesn't exist yet?

        It's unreleased as yet, not non-existent. Someone stumbling in here for advice might think you're suggesting there won't be a 2070, or that we have no information to work from.

    • lostn on 20/09/2018 - 11:41

      You'd need to see benchmarks. But so far we only have leaked benchmarks and no real way to compare. That I know of anyway.

      If the performance ends up being the same, I would get RTX for the ray tracing.

      • Flyingmoo on 20/09/2018 - 11:42
        +3

        All the reviews of the 2080 and 2080Ti got released today. The embargo lifted.
        The 2070 doesn't exist though.

    • leftspeaker2000 on 20/09/2018 - 12:30

      I would also say 1080. If the 2070 had Ray Tracing and was a fair bit cheaper, it would be an option.

      • jasswolf on 20/09/2018 - 13:26

        That's exactly what the 2070 has… it's an announced card…

  • keyman on 20/09/2018 - 11:43

    If only PCCG was part of the eBay 20% sales… It would've been a killer deal.

    • [Deactivated] on 20/09/2018 - 11:44
      +1

      I don't think they are on eBay anymore…

  • morphio on 20/09/2018 - 12:15

    If I'm upgrading from a 6 year old PC. Would I be getting this or the RTX2080?

    • lostn on 20/09/2018 - 12:24
      +1

      I would wait for 2080 to be reasonably priced and get that. But if you need it now, this is better value.

      • morphio on 20/09/2018 - 21:44

        I’ve been ready for a whole year to upgrade and was hoping the 2080TI to be the answer but the price is just too high.

    • scrimshaw on 20/09/2018 - 12:46
      +2

      I hope you have a monitor to actually take advantage of the RTX 2080, where it shines is 1440 to 4K resolutions.

      • incipient on 20/09/2018 - 13:04

        Or if you were super niche and wanted to run a 1080p ray tracing setup lol…but yeah for 99% of games you basically need to be at 4k for this to be worth it. Gone are the days of crysis style games that would thrash a gpu. All console bound now =(

        • runean on 20/09/2018 - 18:08

          …Console bound?

          Do you mean CPU bound? Because that's blatantly not true.

        • incipient on 20/09/2018 - 18:34
          +2

          @runean:
          I mean games often/sometimes limit their poly budget to suit consoles rather than a pc.

          In the days of crysis (the poster game for this stuff) you could drop down a res tier, to say 720p but bump up the settings to say hi or ultra and even the best cards of the day would struggle.

          This simply isn't the case today. Even on ultra settings dropping down a resolution tier will very rarely cause modern gpus a problem.

          To get to the original comment here, a 2080 is really only justified for 4k. For 1080/1440p the cheaper 2070 or 1080 will be plenty.

      • morphio on 20/09/2018 - 21:45

        I’m planning to buy a 27” 1440 165hz screen and use my current dell ultra sharp from 2007 to be a secondary display.

    • Lief on 20/09/2018 - 14:42

      Unless you're upgrading your whole rig including a 4K screen you'd probably be better off getting something more midrange.

      The high end right now is a shit show and even a 1060/580 will be 2-3x faster than whatever you got 6 years ago, possibly even faster if you didn't have the top of the line card.

      Prices of the high end are going to come down slowly and then be replaced rather quickly when 7nm rolls around and be very obsolete, so there's not much point forking out a lot right now.

      • morphio on 20/09/2018 - 21:47

        That is an option but the idea of upgrading it again a little later sometimes feel somewhat trouble some but it’s not a bad idea.

    • remedycrd on 20/09/2018 - 21:38

      Here's how you answer this question

      • what titles am I going to play?
      • what resolution and refresh rate is my monitor?

      In my case I only play Dota, so I'm fine on hardware that's two generations old, even at 1440 144hz.

      In the spirit of OzBargain though, Hardware Unboxed have the 1070ti as the current king in respect to dollar per fps

      • morphio on 20/09/2018 - 21:46

        Mostly play Overwatch at the moment. I don’t use myself upgrade the PC for awhile so would like something to last 5 years again (possibly).

  • parallelparadox on 20/09/2018 - 12:21

    How is the cooling on this one?

    • Snoopy113 on 20/09/2018 - 14:20
      +1

      As i mentioned in my comment below - its horrendous.

      • parallelparadox on 20/09/2018 - 15:43

        I guess so far it seems to be the trend with all the less well known brands I have encountered so far. Cheaper for a reason.

  • scuderiarmani on 20/09/2018 - 12:51
    +4

    Hardware unboxed on YouTube would definitely suggest to avoid 2080 and get this instead. Disappointing release imo.

  • zrmx on 20/09/2018 - 13:02
    +4

    Slightly cheaper here by the way, $891.65, https://www.ebay.com.au/itm//361042713648, for eBay Plus members using code PLUSIT15 (cheaper if you pay by discounted eBay gift card).

    This is pretty much the best top high end go to card at the moment in terms of value. For those who really want a RTX card, an alternative way of getting the value out of RTX cards requires a 28 Degrees credit card with Shopper Protection, and then to wait until 24 October (however there is still a risk element). As they'll changes its policy to protect price falls against all Australian retailers (not just where you buy it from) over a 12 month period. So if the RTX card prices fall (hopefully they will), then just make a claim.

    Overall it is still a win win for nVidia, the price segmentation still goes according to their plans, people will still buy and help clear their overstocked 10 series cards while enjoying the high profits of selling RTX cards.

    • jasswolf on 20/09/2018 - 14:01
      +1

      I doubt there's as much margin in the cards as you think, though the Australian logistical chain seems to sometimes have one extra party clipping the ticket compared to the US (before tax).

      These cards have new VRAM (sometimes more as well), improved VRM installs and boards, as well as 60-125% more silicon for the GPU. Even adjusting for depreciation and inflation, that costs extra.

      • zrmx on 20/09/2018 - 14:07

        I agree about the margin in terms of the non-RTX cards using HBM and/or GDDR5X.

        Definitely lower margins for retailers, but the RTX prices are just…lol oh nVidia.

        • jasswolf on 20/09/2018 - 14:57

          The first mistake everyone is making is comparing the 1080ti to the 2080ti for launch pricing, as though the 1080ti didn't launch 10 months after the 1080. Compare it to a Titan X from the Pascal line-up, which launched at US $1200.

          This time, you're getting a slightly cutdown, but higher-binned equivalent, which a much improved cooling solution, as well as more cooling options. That's an improvement overall. That you can then get the lower-binned (aka normal) silicon starting at US $1000 is pretty competitive for that grade of card 1 month into the product cycle.

          So it's so far so good as far as I'm concerned, but they have to clear the following hurdles:

          1. NVIDIA need to help push mesh shading, async compute and FP16 math into every game engine that's easily capable of it (DX12, Vulkan, OpenGL), and then push developers to make use of that.
          2. They need to start training games for DLSS like they're going out of business (Geforce NOW game streaming gives them an additional incentive as it drives down their on-going server costs by up to 30%).
          3. They need to price drop the entire RTX series when Navi launches in 8-10 months (which is basically what they've done in previous series, just in smaller doses)

          If they keep hitting those marks, the RTX series will look much better value for the average PC gamer (2070 & 2080, likely at least a 2060ti as well) over the next few months.

          We've already seen DLSS numbers jump from 16 to 25 since the August announcements, so if that at least holds, we could reasonably have 50 titles trained and implemented by November, when most people will be shopping for deals.

  • nurbsenvi on 20/09/2018 - 13:44
    -1

    2080 is so weird
    It should have been 2070
    2080ti should have been Titan

  • Snoopy113 on 20/09/2018 - 13:47
    +5

    Hey guys I have this card and if i had my time again i definitely would pay more and chose something with a different cooler. This cooler is an absolute POS. With use in reasonably intensive games the card will begin to throttle after half an hour or so as the temps hit 84c which is what this card is designed to run at. The cooler at that temp will be at 100% and noisy as hell. Just a warning.

    • zrmx on 20/09/2018 - 14:16

      Yea, and reviews from quick google search also don't seem to favour the listed Inno3D's cooling solutions.

      Looks like the MSI GTX 1080 Ti DUKE is the cheapest 1080 Ti card with good cooling solution at $1019.15 after PLUSIT15, https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/173473047191 . (Lol I was going to suggest getting Harvey Norman to price match PCCG's $1099 MSI DUKE price, and use AMEX offers discounted HN gift card to make it even lower. But it seems like HN has pulled the 1080Ti listing)

  • Duplicity on 20/09/2018 - 13:51
    +1

    I'm still pretty happy with my 970.. maybe I'm just out of date myself lol. I'm only on a 24" 1080P 144hz main monitor so by the time next gen comes out I'll probs have gotten a new monitor (or maybe later) to make the most of 1440 or 4k

    • EightImmortals on 20/09/2018 - 14:06

      Meh I got a 970 just before the 1070's came out and it goes fine. I'm running a 24 and and a 27 and it runs Witcher 3 on high details without any issues so until something breaks I wont be bothered either. And even then it seems the 1060 is on par or slightly faster than the 970 anyway so that'll probably do me.

    • smurfstah on 20/09/2018 - 14:41

      Im on 2 x 970s on SLI, connected to my 4k OLED TV. games run fine, but im itching to upgrade! Will hold out till early next year in hopes i can build my next beast a lot cheaper.

      • Velocita on 20/09/2018 - 15:24

        Would you do SLI again?

        • smurfstah on 20/09/2018 - 16:02

          Good question, probably not if i can save on power bills! If a single 1080ti or 2080 does the job, then maybe a second one way down the line to save me monies :)

  • rob87 on 20/09/2018 - 14:45
    +7

    Just a heads up guys.

    Had this card in the past, HIGHLY DO NOT recommend this card. It's noisy and gets really hot quick, I sold this card and bought a different brand and couldn't be happier!

    • robtec on 20/09/2018 - 14:51

      Yes I agree, got many INNO3D graphic cards in past have died early life, got others which are still alive

  • [Deactivated] on 20/09/2018 - 15:22
    +1

    Irrespective of whether this is a bargain. I'd prefer to wait until third-party 2080 Tis are priced on the market. Then 1080 prices will truly come down.

    • [Deactivated] on 20/09/2018 - 15:25

      2080 benchmarking for reference:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdWfk0VGsLw

      Also keep in mind drivers will continue to be further optimised post release.

    • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2018 - 19:54

      why would 2080ti affect 1080 prices?

      They are gonna be around $2200 AUD

  • Kapinny on 20/09/2018 - 16:52

    cant wait for 1080 prices to come down

  • Panama on 20/09/2018 - 17:56
    +1

    Nvidia are pretty much hosing everyone with the RTX prices. 1080ti is still very much so worth getting especially at this price point.

    • Kapinny on 20/09/2018 - 19:58

      i see you watch Tech YES city too

  • [Deactivated] on 20/09/2018 - 20:17

    I bought second hand 1080ti for $765, good deal?

    • mcmaccas on 21/09/2018 - 00:01

      Depends on which one specifically. Average to goodish deal on a generic type depending. Pretty good for a nicer high end brand.

      I managed to pick up a very good conditioned 1080ti aorus for $680 off ebay using discount code (5% off) and discounted gift cards bought off here. Two days later the site wide 10% code came out..

  • gabeee on 21/09/2018 - 12:55
    +1

    back in stock!

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