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MSI Cubi N Celeron N4000 Mini PC $169 + Delivery @ Mwave

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MSI Cubi N Celeron N4000 Mini PC $169 + Delivery @ Mwave
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sludo on 21/08/2019 - 16:15 mwave.com.au (377 clicks)
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MSI Cubi N mini pc (shell only)
4k @ 60hz via HDMI 2.0

Intel Celeron N4000 Processor (4M Cache, Up to 2.60GHz)

Intel UHD 600 Integrated Graphics

Ports:
4x USB 3.1 Gen1 Type A (1x Super Charge),
1x HDMI Out (2.0),
1x RJ45 Port,
1x VGA Out,
1x DC Jack,
1x Mic/Audio Jack
1x DDR4 2400MHz Memory Slot (up to 8GB)
1x 2.5" HDD/SSD /
1x M.2 SATA/2280 PCIe SSD
Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3168 + Bluetooth 4.2
Realtek® 8111H Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000
3 Years Limited Warranty

$189.13 with free shipping on eBay plus

Computing Computer Mini PC

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  • Tacooo on 21/08/2019 - 16:33
    -4

    It's pretty funny how the memory and CPU speeds are almost on par.

    Don't bother buying this to do anything but word processing and such at 4K 60FPS. If you actually tried playing a video on this at that resolution and frequency you'd lose a lot of frames.

    • netsurfer on 21/08/2019 - 17:00

      The CPU has UHD Graphics 600 (Gemini Lake). It includes an advanced video engine with hardware support for the playback of VP9 and H.265 material (8-bit color-depth). You can playback 4K contents (without HDR support). When it comes to video playback, it is the GPU that plays a bigger role. Decoding using CPU is just not the right way to go for video playback.

      However, the CPU is slow and is only okay for Web browsing, video playback or light work (word processing). Using an SSD will make it feel snappy for those lightweight CPU tasks. Don't bother with things like running Android emulator, programming or any other tasks which are CPU bound.

      • Tacooo on 21/08/2019 - 18:55
        -2

        Yeah and I never mentioned it was using the CPU to decode, I was basing this on the UHD600 obviously. The UHD610 (better than the 600) can't even play 4K 60FPS without dropping frames and you can verify that from various owners across the net. Not to mention H265 requires almost 10x the compute power than H264, which was the basis of the complaints originally.

        • netsurfer on 21/08/2019 - 19:36
          +1

          1st: I didn't neg you (because I agree with you that the CPU is !@#!@).

          2nd: Sources:

          Quoting NUCBlog: https://nucblog.net/2018/04/gemini-lake-nuc-review-nuc7cjyh-…

          So what’s better on Gemini Lake vs. Apollo Lake then? Mainly the GPU. The GPU now does HW accelerated 10-bit HEVC and 10-bit VP9 decoding, even at 4k resolutions.

          According to the youTube video below, Netflix 4K is supported. However, he did mention HEVC video extension needs to be installed on Windows 10.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb0nZjq-2OI

          Obviously, I don't rule out if you tried to play a 4K with a codec that the GPU doesn't support or the software/player does not utilise/support the hardware acceleration, then clearly it will struggle. HDR is not supported - as expected. NUCBlog did point out app/software/driver issues, at least at the time they reviewed it. That's the thing with intel CPU (embedded GPU).

          The HDMI 2.0 is an intel thing, not MSI putting in there for no reason. As much as I would like to suggest people not to get it, the fact that multiple sources indicate the CPU supports hardware accelerated HEVC (H.265) decoding means I have no choice but to state it can play 4K contents.

    • sludo on 21/08/2019 - 17:27

      This can play 4k @ 60hz video content fine using Intel uhd600

      • Tacooo on 21/08/2019 - 19:03
        -3

        What? Downscaled into a 640x480 window?

        • netsurfer on 21/08/2019 - 19:58
          +3

          Mate, I understand it is hard to believe and being cynical about intel's claim. However, that GPU is essential the one from Kaby Lake (7th gen) except with all the gaming performance bits ripped out (not that Kaby Lake GPU is suitable for proper gaming) and just left with the video decoding bits.

          You can have a 3rd gen i7 desktop CPU, but if you don't have a GPU capable of decoding 4K, this pesky Celeron CPU can outperform the 3rd gen i7 in 4K playback (with a player that supports intel video acceleration).

          Think about Xbox One S: weak CPU, weak GPU, yet with the inbuilt video acceleration on that weak GPU, it has zero issue with UHD 4K playback (HDR is supported).

          • Tacooo on 22/08/2019 - 00:14
            -1

            @netsurfer: Comparing the One S is a horrible point considering it runs upscaled 4K not native.

  • revivor on 21/08/2019 - 16:57

    Not sure if this is 4K Netflix ready though. The iNtel NUCs are from Gen7.

    • netsurfer on 21/08/2019 - 17:09

      For 4K, the embedded GPU supports hardware accelerated decoding of the following up to 4K:

      MPEG-4 AVC (H.264)
      HEVC (H.265)
      VP9 Profile 0, 2

      Limited to 8-bit so that most likely means HDR is out / not supported.

    • asa79 on 21/08/2019 - 17:35

      its HDMI 2.0 so will handle 4K no issues

      • Tacooo on 21/08/2019 - 18:58
        +1

        He's not referring to the ports, he's referring to the actual compute requirements.

        • asa79 on 21/08/2019 - 19:37
          -1

          it will do 4K probably only at 30fps

    • asa79 on 21/08/2019 - 17:35

      I have an old model NUC and it does 4K no issues

  • adam-07 on 21/08/2019 - 17:47
    +1

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    • Planky on 22/08/2019 - 10:44

      "This code can't be applied to your order." :(

  • Nilfunds on 21/08/2019 - 19:16
    +2

    it's a good price.

    but that's where it ends.

    4k on this? yea, the 4k wallpaper will look great.

    mouse pointer wont keep up with this horrible CPU

  • NeBlackCat on 13/09/2019 - 16:02

    I wish people would mark their deals expired when they're expired.

    BTW The Celeron N4000 isn't a bad CPU at all for the price. Its single core performance is much better than other similarly priced SFFs (eg. Celeron J3455, Celeron N3050, Celeron J3355).

    This would have been a a great little box to chuck spare RAM into for a pfsense router. Exactly what I was about to do :(

  • NeBlackCat on 13/09/2019 - 16:11

    BTW still available for $179 delivered on ebay link in the OP (ebay+).

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