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  voldemort on 12/04/2020 - 14:09

  +2

  Whats the best way to learn Python guys? I heard learning SQL first before Python is better but SQL isn't free, any advice? Thanks

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    Polde on 12/04/2020 - 14:19

    I'm also interested in learning SQL but not sure which is the best beginner course to try

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    cjmac on 12/04/2020 - 14:45

    +20

    SQL is about working with data in databases, and is fairly specific to that, and has been around for a LONG time… whereas Python came later, and is a more general programming language with a simple syntax. Python's widely thought of as a good "intro programming language", if you haven't done anything like this before, then learning Python before SQL might help you wrap your head around some general programming concepts - but ultimately they're different tools with different purposes, so I don't know that the learning order really matters that much.

    A million free and paid Python tutorials out there; the general consensus seems to be that the "Complete Python Bootcamp" course by Jose Portilla is one of the best ones out there. It's heavily on sale at the moment, but it isn't free.

    Also a whole bunch of free online resources for learning SQL - e.g. KhanAcademy , SQLZoo, etc. SQL is just a programming language to work with databases, but you'll also need to wrap your head around some fundamental database concepts (tables, columns, keys, joins, transactions and atomicity, etc) for it to be useful, so look for training that introduces you to a bit of that. Once you start looking into the more advanced stuff in databases, it gets a bit trickier - most of the major database platforms (Microsoft SQL Server, MySQL, Oracle Database, PostgreSQL, Access, SQLite, etc) have slightly different "dialects", features, and approaches - so more advanced training tends to be specific to one system. Having said that, the concepts are usually the same, it's usually mostly just slight syntax differences.

    I'd personally say the best way to learn Python is to find a well-rated course that covers stuff that you find interesting, so that you're more likely to want to "play with" what you learn and expand your understanding in a practical and useful way.

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      smalllittlepanda on 12/04/2020 - 14:49

      +4

      Well said.

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      Polde on 12/04/2020 - 15:50

      +1

      Wow thanks for the detailed reply, I'll look into those.

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      ndenham on 12/04/2020 - 16:52

      +2

      seconding this. I'd also generally say that you can/should probably learn a programming language first and then when you're comfortable with it learn SQL and then learn how the language can interact with SQL.

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      ilovefullprice on 12/04/2020 - 21:43

      Anyone has an idea of which is the most commonly used SQL platform by companies?

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        Bohlen on 12/04/2020 - 21:55

        +2

        Probably will be found with some searching, here is a DB popularity ranking.
        https://db-engines.com/en/ranking
        Id be picking one that is Open Source to experiment and learn.
        Like MySQL, PostgreSQL, MongoDB etc

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          ilovefullprice on 12/04/2020 - 21:59

          @Bohlen: Thanks. I guess looking at the rankings, MySQL would be the safest bet!

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    corbz on 12/04/2020 - 15:04

    +3

    Automate the Boring Stuff with Python Programming

    Check out the /r/learnprogramming subreddit too

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    shadowangel on 12/04/2020 - 16:03

    Its very easy to get started in python. I use it mainly to automate like below, so all command line scripts.

    You do not need to learn SQL before python or at all.

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    Donaldhump on 12/04/2020 - 16:45

    Down load MySQL , and watch some YouTube videos.

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    Bohlen on 12/04/2020 - 21:06

    +2

    There is an endless supply of free learning material online.
    As to what you should learn first is dependant on you and what you are trying to achieve.

    Python:
    https://scrimba.com/g/gpython?utm_source=freecodecamp.org&ut…
    https://youtu.be/hnDU1G9hWqU
    https://www.tutorialspoint.com/python/index.htm
    https://www.w3schools.com/python/default.asp
    https://automatetheboringstuff.com/

    It sinks in much faster when you build something yourself instead of just following someone's tutorial.
    Get comfortable with IDE, setup with Python (i use https://code.visualstudio.com/) and start building your own project ASAP.

    When you get stuck go search youtube, stackoverflow (https://stackoverflow.com/) or python docs (https://www.python.org/doc/).

    Before moving onto other languages Id suggest getting familiar with git (https://git-scm.com/) and github (https://www.github.com/)
    Then add SQL for more advanced projects that use databases.

    First language will be hard, you have to learn terminology, IDE's environment setups, git, etc.. having a friend / mentor or community to ask questions and learn from is hugely beneficial.

    Enjoy the grind :)
    https://pics.me.me/trying-to-learn-any-programming-language-100-just-a-little-7917454.png

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      ilovefullprice on 12/04/2020 - 21:46

      What’s the difference between using Visual Studio and Anaconda?

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        Bohlen on 12/04/2020 - 22:18

        +1

        Never used Anaconda but I have heard of it, I believe its just a pre boxing of Python with a heap of other packages / libraries ( that you may or may not need or use) for data scientists and comes with its own IDE (Spyder).

        There is a plugin to add anaconda to Visual Studio Code also.

        So really its comparing IDE's, VSC to Spyder. I will let you do the interweb comparisons on them, I am happy with my setup :)

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          ilovefullprice on 12/04/2020 - 22:21

          @Bohlen: Great many thanks for the detailed reply!

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  MambaZone on 12/04/2020 - 16:00

  +1

  Thanks OP! Signed up to the VBA courses, let's see how they go

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  Spam on 12/04/2020 - 17:21

  +3

  Thanks
  Finally i can excel at Excel.

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  CC123 on 12/04/2020 - 21:58

  Thanks