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HP ENVY 13 Intel Core i5-10210U 8GB Soldered RAM 128GB SSD 1080p IPS Touchscreen Laptop $959.20 Shipped @ HP Australia

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Danish75 on 22/07/2020 - 12:47 h20386.www2.hp.com (796 clicks)
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Seems like a good deal for the specs.
Lightweight, multi touch screen, decent processor and great price.
After code, it goes down to 959 AUD.
Would love to see the comments about this machine as i am considering to buy it as an entertainment/travel device :)

Specs
Intel® Core™ i5-10210U processor (1.6 GHz base frequency, up to 4.2 GHz base with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology, 6 MB cache, 4 cores)
Windows 10 Home 64
13.3" diagonal FHD IPS BrightView micro-edge WLED-backlit multitouch-enabled edge-to-edge glass with Corning® Gorilla® Glass NBT™ (1920 x 1080)
8 GB DDR4-2400 SDRAM (onboard)
128 GB M.2 SSD

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  • jv on 22/07/2020 - 12:49
    +1

    PRICE in title
    STORE in title

  • Phoebus on 22/07/2020 - 12:52

    Pluses
    300 nit 72% NTSC screen
    Small and light

    Minuses
    8 GB of non upgradable RAM?????

    If you don't need too much grunt but you need portability it looks pretty good.

    • tonyjzx on 22/07/2020 - 13:21
      +4

      Also 120gb ssd for $1k is kind of cheap.move.

    • scud70 on 22/07/2020 - 14:51

      thank apple for that trend .. lol

  • CES2021 on 22/07/2020 - 13:26
    +2

    Much rather get the Lenovo Flex 5 14 albeit with a slightly inferior screen. The Flex easily flexes in everything else

    • Danish75 on 22/07/2020 - 17:39

      I checked it out. and at 1.6KG i think its a bit on the heavier side some being an ultra portable. my work machine E590 almost weighs the same

  • Davesday on 22/07/2020 - 14:04

    Is the NVME SSD upgradeable?

  • TrevorX on 22/07/2020 - 14:27
    +3

    8GB of RAM is particularly limiting. The argument that it's necessary for space saving in ultraportables is a non sequitur, the extra 1.5mm required for SODIMM sockets is less than the available space necessitated by the cooling system, it's purely a result of marketing directing engineering to artificially limit the flexibility of the platform to encourage sales of higher tier product lines.

    The 128GB SSD is similarly limiting, but at least that should be upgradable (unless that's likewise soldered to the board - this is happening more and more in ultraportables. See the argument above). You would have to be someone who only uses a laptop very lightly to get away with those limitations IMO, which admittedly is probably the majority of business staff who just need email, word, Excel and only a few tabs open in a web browser at a time. Power users who want to open dozens of browser tabs at a time should steer well clear, as should anyone who needs half-decent local storage (I'm looking at you, Outlook users with 40+GB pst files, and people who backup their iPhones to iTunes instead of iCloud).

    At the end of it, I personally don't recommend HP notebooks because they've had a history of artificially limiting customer flexibility - we saw numerous instances where HP produced firmware containing whitelists of 'authorised' hardware devices, and if anything was detected that wasn't on the whitelist the laptop would fail to boot. This affected wifi and LTE cards - we discovered that upgrading or adding these would brick HP laptops until they were removed, even though they were the same model specified by HP for these devices. But because they hadn't been purchased (at 400% markup) from HP, they didn't have the custom HP firmware with the correct asset tag, so when the laptop firmware checked and found a non-compliant device attached, it will kill the boot process. HP even went to the trouble of encrypting their firmware images and blocking downgrades when they discovered that the modding community were removing the whitelists. I haven't sold an HP laptop in about eight years as a result - they're not a company that deserves my money, or that of my clients. To be fair, HP have claimed that they no longer whitelist, but trust once lost is never truly regained. HP have lost me as a customer, and my company as a partner.

    HP aren't the only ones who did this, either - Lenovo and Dell still do, and apparently even Gigabyte have dipped their toe into this particular cesspool.

    Further reading: https://goughlui.com/2014/08/02/laptop-wireless-card-whiteli…
    https://www.thewindowsclub.com/bios-whitelist
    https://www.sevenforums.com/hardware-devices/293403-beware-d…

    • PVA on 22/07/2020 - 14:33

      So you haven’t sold one in 8 years and the article says HP has removed the whitelist from laptops and a bios upgrade removes it from any existing builds.

      • TrevorX on 22/07/2020 - 15:03
        +1

        Correct, we don't recommend or sell HP products as a result of about a year fighting tooth and nail to get HP to be reasonable about that, using both retail customer service and unofficial back channels. In fact during the course of this their behaviour actually got worse (introduction of encrypted firmware and blocking rollback). They eventually decided the blowback wasn't worth it and changed their policy a few years later, but I have zero trust in them doing the right thing by their customers if that's the way they choose to run their company. It is extremely rare that HP would have a product that doesn't have a superior alternative from a competitor anyway.

        BTW selling and supporting are different things - there are numerous deployments we manage and support that we didn't supply. We have no control over customer purchasing decisions beyond our advisory capacity, and sometimes we take over pre-existing environments. So we still deal with them, we just don't go out of our way to send new purchases in their direction.

  • Void on 22/07/2020 - 14:45

    Am I missing something or is this just not really good?

    • albert0pia on 22/07/2020 - 14:53
      +2

      It's not great value.

    • TrevorX on 22/07/2020 - 15:10
      +1

      Based purely on paper specs, no it's not. But remember there's a premium on portability - my own laptop was super expensive at launch RRP due to the fact it only weighs 930g, despite it being possible to find something with a similar hardware spec for a third the price because it weighed twice as much. If you want something thin and light for light-duty tasks and you don't want to spend much, this is actually pretty good value. But only if this is all you need it to do. It would be trivial to push this past its limited capabilities.

  • Danish75 on 22/07/2020 - 15:22
    +1

    Great replies OZB community. My 2 cents, Based on all the other deals on ultra laptops i have seen, if portability is top priority then its pretty good. weighs around 1.2KG, which is lighter thn Yoga/Flex and under 1K.

    • Phoebus on 22/07/2020 - 15:31

      exactly. There's not much grunt in any ultra portable unless you wanna pay $2k. The Lenovo E14 is much more powerful but I'm pretty sure is not as compact and light as this. And this actually comes with a pretty decent screen.

  • Hazza on 22/07/2020 - 16:17
    +1

    Great for an ultra portable or kids school use. 8GB of RAM is plenty for most purposes. If using lots of tabs look into a plugin called The Great Suspender or similar. I have been running around 100 web tabs (bad habit I know) on 6GB of RAM (albeit on Win7) for 5+ years and it copes fine thanks to unloading unused tabs from memory.

    During research I found that in general touchscreen adds $100, 360 flip adds $100, plus light weight adds $50 to normal laptops. So expect to pay more for these features. I personally ended up with the 8GB 256GB version for this price on special from the education store for my daughters high school use.

  • Dr Bargain on 22/07/2020 - 21:20

    Microsoft Australia eBay store is selling higher spec version for $1,649.

    HP Envy 15.6" i5-10210U / 16GB / 512GB / MX250 - AU

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HP-Envy-15-6-i5-10210U-16GB-512G…

  • Danish75 on 23/07/2020 - 19:12
    +1

    Tnanks for all the input guys.
    I went with, Dell XPS 13 9380 Laptop.
    Found this deal @ Microsoft eBay store which seems pretty darn good value for money.I was looking for something less powerful but the price diff wasnt much and a lil more power n storage doesnt hurt :)

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dell-XPS-13-9380-Laptop/17391896…

    • tanastra on 23/07/2020 - 21:21

      Gone … so quick

      • Danish75 on 24/07/2020 - 09:40

        Yeah. when i posted there were 7 left. Good bargains don't last long :)

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