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Good price for 32GB, speed is decent and looks decent
Patriot Viper Steel Series DDR4 32GB (2x16GB) 3200MHz $169 Delivered @ Amazon AU
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Well, this is wrong. A high refresh monitor is smoother even when not gaming, a 3080 would still not 144fps@1440p max in some games at 1440p and a stock cooler is neither good nor quiet.
90% of people wont use more than 16GB. Yes, there are use cases for more but i wouldn't say it would be the majority. 32GB is definitely not a "must" but can be needed in certain cases.
so true.
have never seen windows use more than 16
Timings are 16-18-18-36 for those wondering.
Has been this price since August. Good deal though….
Could I stack this with 2x 8GB 3600Mhz RAM already in my system?
Or is having 48GB RAM with different speeds not a great move?
You can mix it but youd be better off selling the 16gb kit and buying one or two of the same kits.
Bad idea. Not only it's different in size, it's also different in speed.
Better of selling the 16GB kit and buying this (or, if your motherboard have 4 ram slots you can buy the exact same kit you have, and run it in 4x8GB)
The difference in size doesn't matter, only the speed
And timings
2 x 16gb is still going to be a better option that 4 x 8gb
Less stress on the IMC especially with Ryzen
I think mixing diff speeds and latency isnt great. Might run at slower speeds across all
Thanks OP. Got one! I have first gen Ryzen 5 and GTX 1060 6gb, would it work well with the system?
Completely depends what you're doing - most things the average person does with a PC are not latency sensitive, nor do they require much in the way of overall memory capacity - Windows itself needs less than 3GB for standard operation. Higher capacity is required when you're performing tasks that require large volumes of memory - games usually don't need too much, but even something as simple as Chrome can chew through huge amounts of memory and cause PCs to crash to their knees if you have lots of tabs open simultaneously, or you have some open on web pages with memory leaks (I once saw a single page chew through over 20GB of RAM before the whole system fell over).
There are dozens of tech sites that have run the numbers on memory latency and the effect on real world tasks over many generations of architectures, and the consistent recommendation is that it's the absolute last place to spend your money. Sure, buy capacity where you need it, but don't chase low latency or speed beyond 3200MHz if it's going to cost more - your money's better spent elsewhere (usually on graphics, if gaming is your aim).
On that note,.. is there a maximum limit of ram that can be used with Windows 10 .. as I remember with older Windows installs they had a maximum and anything over the maximum limit was a waste of memory, cheers
Home is 128GB, Pro is 2TB, Enterprise & Workstations is 6TB: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/memory/memory…
@TrevorX: Way past my intentions of 64gb (definitely not my requirements) but ram is getting cheaper so a cheap upgrade for my baby lol
Thanks 😃👍
Chances are with first gen Ryzen it won’t support 3200mhz.
The ram will still work but probably with a clock speed of 2666mhz
Photo or Video editing and running VM's I think are the main reasons.
Have you ever tried to open 3 tabs in Chrome before?
I happen to do a fresh install of 2 exact same PC recently and it can say it make a lot of difference (8Gb vs 32Gb). first thing you notice is the installation take a lot quicker on the 32GB machine, the step where it copy files and second steps when “getting pc ready”. Then installing all the apps like MS Office and Photoshop is a breeze. Opening, closing and saving apps is noticeably faster. Now the 8GB machine feel sluggish.
Please dont spread this misinformation
Let me introduce you to my friend, Flight Simulator 2020.
Lol say hello to my "little" friend FS 2020
A lot of testing has been done online, 16GB seems to be the sweet spot.
8GB is enough for Windows and fairly casual PC use, certainly. Having said that, with memory approaching $150 for 32GB of DDR4, I'm seeing the argument for less than that to be weaker and weaker, except of course, in the case of notebooks with soldered RAM (something I feel should be carefully looked at by market regulators, as it completely removes consumer choice for extremely little tangible benefit).
Your comment does remind me of the argument that 'anyone who needs faster Internet than 25mbps obviously only needs it for porn'. Both arguments demonstrate a fundamental lack of knowledge or experience, and an insistence by the proponent that those who disagree must be unreasonable.
I wasn't going to write this, because I'm opening myself up to accusations of humble-bragging, but it's a real world example disproving your hypothesis. I used to have a PC with 24GB of RAM, and I would regularly run out of memory just from Chrome tabs. My workflow involves opening a new Chrome window for each activity or process, opening multiple tabs as I work through that, which I can then close off once it's complete. A quick glance at my TabsOutliner menubar icon shows I currently have 57 windows and 492 tabs open as I type this. Process Explorer tells me current physical RAM usage is 21.51% with a few other pieces of software open. I can happily have a number of business applications, audio, video and image editing software open concurrently before cracking 30%. The only time it really gets interesting is when I have to run a few local VMs, which I admittedly don't do often as I have a Hyper-V server with 256GB of RAM available to run most workloads, but occasionally I need to run something either off the Hyper-V server, or using a different hypervisor. I've not yet cracked 70% utilisation, but it's there if I need it. Importantly, this workstation handles everything I've ever thrown at it without ever running out of memory or feeling unresponsive, which is critical for me - I ask a lot of it, so it needs to be rock stable.
While my example isn't directly applicable to most people, it is an instructive example fairly regularly when I need to explain system design considerations to clients. Certainly, hardware should be targeted to the applicable use case, but given the cost there is never an excuse to deliver a system with less than 16GB of RAM (hardware limitations notwithstanding), and 32GB is becoming more and more useful for fairly standard systems these days just for people who need a number of applications and lots of Chrome tabs open, even if that's only occasional use. Your PC cannot magically have more memory available than it's physically built with, so if you have any situation where you need more memory than you have available, you either can't perform that task, or you try and the system falls over. Having sufficient memory available means the PC will be able to handle that task and everything runs smoothly. Even if that kind of load is only necessary once or twice ever, that still results in vastly greater utility than it would have otherwise been capable of.
not even, just got my 8gb work pc. chrome, acrobat and a few other less hungry programs has it running near capacity all ready.
2010 called, they ant you to keep using windows XP
Games are coming out with 16gb recommendations.
There's never harm in having more, that said there's always uses for more ram such as ram caching hdd or ram disk if you have enough.
that said, beyond gaming, virtual machine, video and audio editing takes up a lot of resources.
Patriot Viper Steel Series DDR4 32GB (1x32GB) 3600MHz PC4-25600 Single Module - PVS432G360C8 is $181. is it worth spending extra $12 for faster but single module ?
that will depend on whether you ever plan on having a total of 64 GB in your system. If not, don't buy single channel kits.
You'll lose the performance benefits of dual-channel if it's valid for your system setup/usage. (Unless you're buying two?)
I'm real curious to see prices when Cyber Monday is up in a couple months.
90% of people will never use more than 20gb at any given time.