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Kindle, now with a built-in front light - Black $99 RRP $139 $40 Off

Adjustable front light lets you read comfortably for hours—indoors and outdoors, day and night.

Purpose-built for reading, with a 167 ppi glare-free display that reads like real paper, even in direct sunlight.

Read distraction-free. Highlight passages, look up definitions, translate words, and adjust text size—without ever leaving the page.

Select from millions of books. Holds thousands of titles so you can take your library with you.

Prime members read free with unlimited access to over a thousand titles.

A single battery charge lasts weeks, not hours.

Display the cover of the book you're reading on the lockscreen of your device. Easily toggle on/off in Settings.

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  • NobalaKoba on 06/05/2022 - 02:47
    +14

    Still too many reasons to avoid Kindle for Kobo and other competitors…

    A few reasons:

    • Overdrive support
    • A better cut on book sales for authors (Amazon uses various dodgy tactics, such as charging per MB per sale and increasing their cut significantly beyond hard limits)
    • Software updates for many years
    • Support for epub, the universal ebook standard, rather than Amazon's choice of proprietary format
    • Kobos use a micro sd as internal storage. Can easily create a backup image, or upgrade the storage using said image and a larger micro sd card
    • Amazon tries to block all attempts to root the device every software update, Kobos natively support rooting (drop a KoboRoot.tar.gz into the .kobo folder when connected via USB and it will install the contents of the tat.gz)
    • Amazon ties everything to their ecosystem and it's all locked down as much as possible, whereas Kobo uses proper standards (sql database for tracking books and reading progress, for example)

    It's a bit like Apple vs Android (and some ereader run Android as well). If you want a walled garden system where you do things hoe the manufacturer tells you to, you may like a Kindle. If you have any interest in customisability and tweaking your device, then go for something else like a Kobo.

    • JsonDough on 06/05/2022 - 04:29
      +1

      Mobi too

      • odax on 06/05/2022 - 06:40
        +1

        Just got a notification from Amazon last week that they are ending support for mobi (from their “send to kindle” app) and will support epub.

        Looks like a few changes (for the better) may be in flight!

        ———————————-

        Dear Kindle Customer,

        Thank you for using the Send to Kindle service to send personal documents to your Kindle library. We wanted to let you know that starting August 2022, you’ll no longer be able to send MOBI (.mobi, .azw) files to your library. Any MOBI files already in your Kindle library will not be affected by this change.

        MOBI is an older file format and won’t support the newest Kindle features for documents. Any existing MOBI files you want to read with our most up-to-date features for documents will need to be re-sent in a compatible file format.

        Also, compatible formats now include EPUB (.epub), which you can send to your library using your Send to Kindle email address. We’ll also be adding EPUB support to the free Kindle app for iOS and Android devices and the Send to Kindle desktop app for PC and Mac.

        • NobalaKoba on 06/05/2022 - 10:31
          +3

          That's very unexpected, but a really positive change. Glad to see they recognise it's pushing customers away.

          • illogicalerror on 06/05/2022 - 11:12

            @NobalaKoba: I never networked my Kindle and relied on Calibre and "free" book packs from the internet to load it. I literally have more books than I could possibly read in a lifetime and never paid Amazon another cent. Maybe they could have seen more business from me if they weren't being greedy aholes about their services and support. I suspect a lot of people have done the same thing, hence the change of sentiment. Seriously doubt that anything but financial motivation would have changed their stance.

    • [Deactivated] on 06/05/2022 - 08:12
      -1

      tweaking lol TMTOH

    • jjcf on 06/05/2022 - 08:33
      -1

      No one cares about 90% of these neckbeardy WALLED GARDENNN whinges. Oh noes, I can’t run unsigned code on my rooted ereader, what an outrage just you wait until my subreddit hears about this m’kindle.

      The only one that matters to almost the entire target market is overdrive. And even then, I’d wager it’s not a huge proportion.

      • DATApush3r on 06/05/2022 - 08:49
        +4

        Wow, they listed 7 things and you went mental on one. What makes wanting flexibility and openness on a device you own "neckbeardy"? And more importantly, why does someone else's opinion and the consumer choices they make bother you that bad?

        Looking at your profile and all the snarky comments you have made, it seems that you are the one treating this website like a subreddit. That's a bit hypocritical.

        • jjcf on 06/05/2022 - 09:12
          -5

          'mental'. lol. get outside some more.

          When you write a spiel (half of which is wrong anyway) trying to dissuade people from purchasing a consumer device with irrelevant techbro 'kindle bad becuz you cant mirror the internal storage and install linux then a port of GNUmeric that lets your kindle text Nelly', it is the definition of neckbeardy.

          • NobalaKoba on 06/05/2022 - 10:34
            +2

            @jjcf: Someone's upset they can't upgrade their Kindle to 64GB for $9 ;)

          • DATApush3r on 06/05/2022 - 20:25
            +1

            @jjcf:

            it is the definition of neckbeardy

            From the Oxford Dictionary:

            1) a growth of hair on a man's neck, especially when regarded as indicative of poor grooming.

            2) a man who is socially inept and physically unappealing, especially one who has an obsessive interest in computing.

            Well, 1 is ruled out as as I'm sure you have no clue what @BradleyDS2 looks like and as for 2) I don't really see how any of that could be applied to what they wrote. So you are saying that anyone that has a preference and knows what they want or don't want in consumer technology and can articulate it is automatically a neckbeard?

            (half of which is wrong anyway)

            Which half of what they said was wrong?

    • CyberMurning on 06/05/2022 - 08:47
      +1

      correct. my 10 years old kobo still getting update last month !

    • mrbargainz on 06/05/2022 - 18:05

      That always really bugged me about them not supporting ePub.. such a cr@ppy business practice.. surprised reading below that might be changing 🙂

      I'd happily switch to something else, but I also have lots of books on Amazon and don't really care much for converting. Sometimes the formatting is off and either way, it's another step I don't have to do…

      I've also heard reports of either not being able to move books to different devices, or only move them to a device once, or something weird like that. I don't quite recall, but sounded stupid.

      Is my understanding correct that none of the Kobo's and alternatives with E-Ink have a native Kindle app, or capability?

      • NobalaKoba on 07/05/2022 - 11:41

        That's correct, Amazon makes Kindle and tries to make it into an ecosystem like Apple does. That means you have the Kindle app, Kindle store and Kindle devices, and you can't officially migrate across to anything else.

        Kobo also has a Kobo app, Kobo store (that also price matches plus 10%, including against Kindle) and Kobo devices, but it's a lot easier to skip using part of the ecosystem such as the store without downsides.

        Most of the other ereader brands run on Android, so you can use an app like Moonreader, then set it to load your books off the cloud (Dropbox etc) and I believe sync reading progress across your different devices and ereader. Some of these brands are also now using colour eink on their ereaders, which is currently an evolving technology and has seen big improvements happen and more to come.

      • NobalaKoba on 07/05/2022 - 11:49
        +1

        If you decide to move to a different device, it's possible to convert your Kindle books in bulk. To do so, use this free plugin in calibre. There's many guides to using it online, otherwise refer to the FAQ.

        • mrbargainz on 07/05/2022 - 22:12

          Thanks and yes, I use that now, albeit to convert ePubs to formats the Kindle works with.. ideally I'd rather just not have to do that though. I wish Amazon would just relax a little and open their app/platform for other devices…

          It's also laughable that they haven't supported ePubs this whole time.. they're a bit of a joke really..

    • PeppaPigDidNthngWrng on 09/05/2022 - 19:16

      While you're not entirely wrong on any of your points, they're also entirely irrelevant.

      I just download epub or mobi books, and manage my library on my laptop using Calibre. No reason to have lots of storage, because I don't want to keep (nor do I have a reason to keep) many books on my Kindle at any one time. All my books are on my laptop, in any format I could possibly need.

      Kindles have been getting updates for long after they've been depreciated (but I don't know how it compares to Kobo).

      Format doesn't matter, storage doesn't matter, buying books doesn't matter, there is no "locking down" for putting your own books on it.

      The only thing I used to miss was on my old Kindle, I rooted it so I could have the book covers as my sleep-screen. Well, that's now part of the basic, standard features, so I don't even care about rooting it now.

      Like I said, you're completely correct in everything you said, only I can't see where, at any point, it matters.

      What matters is screen quality, light quality and battery life. Oh, and price. This is Ozbargain, so price too.

      • NobalaKoba on 10/05/2022 - 10:59

        Kobos that are over 10 years old are receiving current software updates.

        The base Kobos include a yellow light, but this is a premium feature for higher end Kindles.

        Storage matters, which is why people will pay more for more storage. Not everyone wants or needs more storage, but that's a personal thing.

        If price matters the most, being able to get every book with better quality cheaper via Kobo store than Kindle store matters. Of course, you can always strip the drm from the Kobo store and put it on your Kindle, but it's avoidable extra work if using a Kobo directly.

        Quality of the software itself also matters a lot, and IMO kobo is a lot better in that regard, and if you don't like the Kobo firmware, you have several options you can replace it with (either replacing completely, or adding a menu option to swap firmware temporarily) which is something Amazon does their best to block.

        • PeppaPigDidNthngWrng on 10/05/2022 - 18:58

          Software updates: okay, sure. A 7 year old Kindle paperwhite has the latest firmware version. The previous version, 9 years old, has the previous dot point firmware. I'm not saying you're wrong - just that I don't think it is that different or makes that much of a difference.

          Yellow light: I suppose, okay. It isn't a premium feature any more, but it is new (the paperwhite has it, which I consider the main model, as opposed to the basic kindle).

          Storage doesn't matter, and is useless. Anything more than a couple hundred MB is wasted - unless it can support Audio books. Why aren't you using Calibre?

          Book price doesn't matter, because only chumps pay for books :-P

          Quality of software: Kindle works fine. It displays books. I don't want, or need it to do anything else (at least, since they started displaying book covers when asleep).

          It's almost like you didn't address any of my points, and just ignored them.

          • NobalaKoba on 10/05/2022 - 22:59

            @PeppaPigDidNthngWrng: Understood, I will address your points properly.

            Software updates:
            Kobo:

            • Newest Kobo FW: 4.32.19501
            • Kobo Touch A Release date: June 2011
            • Kobo Touch A current FW: 4.32.19501

            Kindle:
            * Newest Kindle FW: 5.14.2
            * Kindle 4 Release date: September 2011 (slightly newer than the Kobo)
            * Kindle 4 current FW: 4.1.4

            Yellow light:
            Most recent deals for the cheapest models with yellow light:
            Kindle Paperwhite 5th gen @ $183
            Kobo Clara HD @ $129 (Every Kobo has it. You don't have to skip the base model and pretend the next model up is the base model)

            Storage: It's a personal thing, matters to some people and not to others. Why aren't you using a phone with 8GB internal storage? Why aren't you storing everything on the cloud? On an audiobook related note, the newer Kindles and Kobos do indeed support audiobooks.

            On the note of audiobooks, Kindles only support purchased audiobooks but Kobo support sideloading downloaded audiobooks. And only chumps pay for (audio)books, right?

            Book price does matter, because not every book can be obtained for free. Even on private trackers and libgen, someone had to buy the book first.
            I often purchase new books from ongoing series the day they release, and often these books only sell 1k copies, so they aren't immediately available to yargh.

            Quality of software matters to many people, even if it doesn't to you. Otherwise KOReader and Plato wouldn't exist. If you prefer KOReader or Plato to the stock FW, it's dead simple (5 simple steps) to sideload them to a Kobo (download zip, download script to same folder, run script, you now have a menu option in the Kobo to boot into KOReader or Plato).
            For a Kindle, you need to have an old FW or older model, if it's on newer FW but an older model and downgradeable open the case, attach to the internal debug serial port and downgrade the firmware. Once on an appropriate FW jailbreak the kindle, install a launcher such as KUAL or KPV Booklet, follow this table to determine if your Kindle is legacy, Kindle or PW2 then unzip the appropriate package to your Kindle.

            Hopefully that clarifies things. And regardless of whether you care about a particular point or not, the point still stands. It just means that it doesn't affect you specifically.

            I'm just letting people know about the general pros and cons of Kindle vs Kobo and other ereaders.
            If you prefer to spend more on a Kindle or an iPhone, that's your choice.

            Happy to discuss further if you'd like, but please don't ignore when I address your points. I have no interest in playing chess with a pigeon.

            • PeppaPigDidNthngWrng on 10/05/2022 - 23:05

              @NobalaKoba: Oh, I spent a fraction of what a Kobo costs on my Kindle! They basically give them away a few times a year.

              And yes, only chumps pay for audiobooks too.

              I love how you just repeated everything I said, without caring that I already discussed them. It's kind of amazing, actually. You never once addressed any of my points - you simply ignored them. That's not addressing, it's steamrolling, and it's pretty obvious.

              But, what I think I love most - and really, top of the pile - is how you completely ignored how I agreed with you, and then went on to argue anyway. Absolutely amazing. Like the firmware part. That was glorious to see you waste your time and effort proving that I agreed with you.

  • impactportraits on 06/05/2022 - 07:41
    +7

    Can't you simply use calibre to convert and transfer your books to your kindle

    • [Deactivated] on 06/05/2022 - 08:13
      +1

      of course

    • Boodek on 06/05/2022 - 08:21
      +1

      Yes. Mad if you don't.

    • PeppaPigDidNthngWrng on 09/05/2022 - 19:17

      Yeah, I have no idea why anyone would consider anything he's said as important, because, well, Calibre exists.

  • DashCam AKA Rolts on 06/05/2022 - 08:47

    Great spotting OP. Good price for a good device.

  • findcaiyzh on 06/05/2022 - 09:00
    +2

    Is it an upgrade from Kindle Paperwhite (second iteration) 2013?

    • Asx10000 on 06/05/2022 - 10:51

      I'm wondering the same. coz on paper, they look identical.

    • illogicalerror on 06/05/2022 - 11:16
      +3

      I've got a 2013 one as well. Bought my kids latest one last Christmas and it's pretty much the same as the newer one in terms of the screen. New one is ever so slightly thinner and holds about a billion more books than my old one, but as I can only read one book at a time and have hands so that's no reason to update.

      Front bezel to screen on the new ones is flat as well like a phone, where with the older ones the screen is recessed. I prefer the old one for this, makes it harder to scratch the reading surface. Doesn't look quite as "modern", but it's certainly much more practical.

    • BigBarbieBanger on 10/05/2022 - 14:12

      I have a Paperwhite 2, so was also curious. This one posted here is lighter, larger memory capacity for holding books, and probably a snappier processor. Not significant upgrades for me anyway. And the 167 ppi display may be a resolution downgrade… I'd really want to see the displays side by side.

      I did get a 5th gen Paperwhite for $183 on OzB, which is a major upgrade in all areas from PW2. The 300ppi display makes reading a pleasure, and I wouldn't want an e-reader without a warm light again.

    • PeppaPigDidNthngWrng on 10/05/2022 - 23:07

      A lot of the changes were to bring paperwhite advantages to the base kindle model, while the paperwhite got Oasis features.

  • OldBugger on 06/05/2022 - 10:58
    +2

    Combine with the $10 voucher perk to get it for $89 at JB-HiFi

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