Offer is for today only as part of the DS XXXL Sales.
It's FHD Sanyo
You guys can decide on quality of this brand and this tv
as good as the Hitachi Big W offer months back (FHD $328 aswell)?
The specs show power consumption as 180 watts.. YIKES this certainly guzzles a lot of power…. I'm sure that 180 watts is at maximum brightness and maximum volume and anything else that it does at maximum but its still a significant amount of juice as its not LED based…On the flip side it is a very good price for a full HD screen at that price.
That power consumption must surely be wrong! A set-top box consumes about 10W to decode the signal, the 2x8W audio amplifiers probably use 30W maximum (class AB amplifier), that leaves 140W for the backlight and the LCD?
I initially thought DSE had copied the wrong specs, because their "specs" tab shows the product code as "GE6304", nothing like the model number of LCD40XR11F. But no, DSE appear to have copied the power consumption from the manual, it's on page 38.
Manual can be downloaded from this page:
i bought this tv from dse last sunday for $399, can i get it refund and get it for this new price?
Honestly, I hope not. We've all been there, where a product we just bought is discounted right after our purchase date. DSE has abolished its 14 day no questions asked return policy. There now has to be something wrong with the product to return it, and that's the way it should be.
hey glk2000, how is this tv? could please give us some details on the user experience
I bought a GPS from dicksmith for fathers day last year (2 weeks prior to actual fathers day) and a week before fathers day the GPS dropped by around $30 or $40.. I casually asked in the store and was told DSE I can invoke the price guarantee (or something along those lines) … so I took my receipt the same day to a store, showed them and was given a refund of the difference (GPS unit cost around $170 I think and was on special for ~ $140.
You can always try, the worst they can say is NO.
Looks like you might want a 28 degrees Mastercard.
Price Protection! "If your purchase goes on sale at the same retailer (even if it's a different location) within 6 months, we'll pay the price difference to your account"
I keep 1 of these cards just for this purpose. (0.5% of your monthly closing balance – capped at $50 per month)
I recall seeing a post here on OzB, saying you can get the 28 Degrees card's price protection for free. Just deposit the correct (or larger) amount of money into the account BEFORE the monthly billing date, so the "monthly closing balance" will be zero or in your favour.
I haven't tried it myself, and I'm too lazy to search up the original post, so YMMV.
Yes - thats what I do. When in Oz, I use it for online purchases - linked to PayPal to do the exchange (no Foreign Exchange fees) & major purchases like this are covered by free Price Protection & Merchandise Protection insurance.
When travelling OS, I automatically transfer money into 28Degrees weekly & use it as a debit card for free ATM withdrawals. (But now also have free CitiBank account for that - good to have backups.)
You said "linked to PayPal to do the exchange".
Huh? Every time I let Paypal do the exchange rate, I get offered a rate which is more than 2% worse than the rate Google reports.
I always make my overseas purchases in the overseas currency, and let the 28 Degrees card do the conversion. Their rates are better.
An example: on 28 July 2011, I made an Amazon purchase of USD$66.87. Google said that is equivalent to AUD$60.488, and Paypal offered me AUD$62.97. I made the purchase in USD, and the 28 degrees card charged me AUD$60.81 - more than $2 cheaper than Paypal's conversion rate.
Huh? Quoting me out of context!
That is what I do - 28Degrees is my linked account on Paypal set up to AUTOMATICALLY do the foreign exchange - on the foreign currency price, avoiding Paypals additional Foreign Exchange fee.
As I said - "I use it for online purchases - linked to PayPal to do the exchange (no Foreign Exchange fees)". Had expected people to work out the details from the Forum on this if interested, as this is off-topic in a TV deal. So had abbreviated the explanation.
I never use Paypal's foreign exchange service. Unlike your case, as Paypal is set up automatically to use 28Degrees exchange rate, I am not even offered Paypals poor rate and additional fee.
And you, like others, are confusing Paypals Foreign Exchange Fee which is charged on top of their foreign exchange rate - 2 separate matters, which probably explains the $2 difference rather than any great difference in rates you claim.
Sorry, my mistake. The wording made it sound like you were using Paypal to do the currency exchange.
Thanks for the explanation of Paypal's fees. I don't have a Paypal account, I just use them to anonymise my credit card payments to overseas websites. When I do that, Paypal don't give any explanation as to how they arrived at the price, its more like "here's our price, take it or leave it".
wish a 100hz tv would come round at a nice price…
Any LCD without LED backlighting would be considered ancient by now.
I would think this is a much better buy.
been using the 32 inch version (LED32XR10F) for almost a year now, only defect was one bright pixel but otherwise very vibrant. Reads most video formats from USB as well.
Video and pics from laptop at 1080p are fantastic but text is a bit jagged, as if the windows cleartype fonts are not translated when hooked up via HDMI, havent tried the old school VGA cable yet…
On average if you're not buying a LED LCD that aims for great picture (ie the expensive stuff), you're better off getting one with CCFL back lighting.
Why do you say CCFL is better?
I doubt the colour rendering index is any better, as both LEDs and CCFL use phosphor to produce the correct "white" light.
LEDs are more rugged than CCFL tubes, have a longer life, equivalent efficiency, and much reduced (negligible) toxicity when the unit eventually goes into landfill.
Please explain your reasoning.
CCFLC TV's makes my standard resolution consoles (PS2, N64) look amazingly good compare to LCD
Why do you say CCFL is better?
Low-end LED = Edge Lit, which can be pretty ordinary IME. CCFL (being more mature tech) is more consistent across the board in this price bracket IMHO. Look at them first, see if you like the picture before you decide! ;)
My only experience with LCDs is in laptop screens and cheap computer monitors, so every one I have ever seen was edge lit.
Thinness seems to be a selling point for LCD TVs, so I assumed all would have edge lighting. Are there some LCD TVs that aren't edge lit? How can you tell when shopping?
You'll find that for the reasons you've outlined, edge-lit is the most common. That said, there's good & bad implementations…you'll see it immediately, blotchy screen on dark scenes, excessive edge light bleeding etc.
Full-array LED is nice, but less common; however, RGB LED backlighting is the creme de-la creme in higher end sets, which produces a really nice colour gamut; but this will be a major selling point that you'll hear about long before you see it! ;)
Of course the colour rendering is the same because both panels should be the same except for the back lighting. And it is here that we see the biggest difference because in low end machines CCFL provides even lighting on the back as opposed to Edge LED being reliant on meshes to evenly distribute light.
As a product we get better screen consistency and therefore better picture for your dollar. If you favour 'thiness' then by all means LED is a good choice, but we are talking about picture here.
There are LCD TVs that aren't Edge lit and are Full Array LED, which is similar to CCFL back lighting but retain the slim profile. The difference however is that the screen is much more consistent, add in dynamic dimming features and you get almost perfect blacks.
The number of these TVs like the Sony HX925 are dying out because Samsung has dominated the market with it's Edge lit stuff, everything else is just not profitable.
Thanks for that StewBalls and plmko, I wasn't aware that "full array LED" TVs still existed. I read about them years ago, back when LCDs had poor contrast ratios and plasma TVs were considered to have the best picture because of "blacker blacks".
Modern LCDs have contrast ratios matching plasma TVs, and I thought that was why the full array LED LCDs disappeared.
I assume by "blotchy", both of you mean an unevenness in the illumination, similar to vignetting in poor camera lenses. It's not something I've noticed before, but now that I know about it, I'll look for it when shopping. Thanks!
umm.. Just FYI, plasma is still considered to have the best picture with more superior contrast rating. But hey i dont want to turn this into plasma VS lcd war
this is very good deal, thanks op
$343 delivered to my door, thanks OP good deal
I'm sure we'll be looking back at this thread in 5 years going 'What were we thinking? CCFL/LED - old ancient technology ppppfft'… This is of course once OLED and Crystal Led displays become common place and a 55" set costs you $1000…
Anyone know what ever happened to LaserVue projectors? Now there's a technology with a lot of potential (coupled with a black diamond projection screen)
LaserVue is only available in the US. Mitsubishi doesn't see a market in Australia, and I don't blame them because I don't see how anyone can stomach a TV in anything but a slim-line panel these days.
Unless there have been some dramatic (and unannounced) improvements in OLED technology, it's probably not the best choice.
The reports I've seen say that OLED displays in mobile phones start to show noticeable colour fading and brightness problems around the two year mark. That's fine for a large number of mobile phone users, who get a new phone every 18 to 24 months, but not something you want for a TV.
The TV would probably start to show effects faster, because the display is "lit" for longer each day than the typical phone screen.
For those who want to buy this tv I can recommend as I am using it since more than a year, I bought it for 550 so its a very good prize & its definitely worth the prize.
same. Got it when it went on special last year with the staff discount. Around $500.
Connected via VGA and its crisp and vibrant. A little bit ghosty in dark scenes but nothing too noticeable. Plays blu-ray gorgeously…. for lack of a straighter word…
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LOL, + for that! :)
Saw this earlier this morning and picked one up but thought it would already be posted on here for sure. Even in the little Armidale I got the last one at around midday. Great deal!
Just curious..can you hang this on your wall? or is the stand fixed?
Tried for about half an hour to order one. Every time I went to checkout, all I got was "Sorry, we have encountered a problem." Looks like another Aussie retailer didn't want my money.
Yeh same, I couldn't get past checkout… now it's $399… :(
Still on sale at Dick Smith Elizabeth SA when I was there today
Placed an order online which went through on saturday and called them up today to track it since 3 business days passed. Apparently there's no stock anymore. They dunno when they'll get stock again. They proposed to refund me or to give me the 40" dicksmith instead lol… prefer to wait…
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