Kioxia EXCERIA G2 1TB PCIe Gen 3 NVMe M.2 (2280) SSD $110.26 Delivered @ Amazon UK via AU

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At this price, the best budget SSD compared to the 980, SN570, NV1 and P2

LRC20Z001TG8
Controller: Kioxia (custom Phison E12)
Memory: Kioxia BiCS 96L TLC
DRAM Cache: SK Hynix 1GB DDR4
Sequential Read: 2,100 MB/s
Sequential Write: 1,700 MB/s
Random Read: 400,000 IOPS
Random Write: 400,000 IOPS
Endurance (TBW): 400 TB
Warranty: 5 Years

Review: https://min.news/en/digital/82028aed90557c950dbe039f4606d312…

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  CURRYINAHURRY on 01/10/2022 - 19:36

  +5

  Looks like a Kingston A2000 replacement.

  • 

    abadacus on 02/10/2022 - 16:34

    How is this better than rhe A2000?

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      CURRYINAHURRY on 02/10/2022 - 21:19

      +6

      It is still manufactured.

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  DBW on 01/10/2022 - 19:40

  Crucial P2 is currently $103 on Amazon AU, which one has better performanc or overall quality?

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    Phoebus on 01/10/2022 - 19:47

    +2

    IIRC P2 has no DRAM cache

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    MagnamoniousRex on 01/10/2022 - 19:55

    +6

    This is TLC with DRAM, better in every way

  • 

    shabaka on 01/10/2022 - 20:10

    +1

    this is tons better than P2.

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  hollykryten on 01/10/2022 - 20:53

  +8

  This uses NAND flash memory manufactured by Toshiba. Great stuff. Kioxia is a brand which is fully owned by Toshiba. So of course the SSD is manufactured by Toshiba with their own manufactured NAND flash memory on it under the Kioxia brand.

  You can't go wrong with this SSD if you want a Gen 3 NVMe SSD.

  This would be better than the Crucial P2 SSD any day.

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  dfg555 on 01/10/2022 - 21:24

  ive always wanted a toshiba qosmio back in 2009

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  Pheam on 01/10/2022 - 22:48

  Bought Crucial P3 1 Tb from last deal for $110, should I return it and buy this one?

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    netsurfer on 01/10/2022 - 23:23

    +2

    Depends. While Crucial P3's QLC is inferior, it does have a more aggressive 'dynamic' SLC cache. If you managed to stay in the SLC cache part and avoid running into situation where DRAMless SSDs tank, P3 can be faster. Obviously, if you intend to fill the whole SSD in one go, P3's sustained write will tank as soon as the SLC cache runs out.

    From what I read on other reports, Kioxia G2 1TB SSD's static SLC cache is quite small (~20GB) and write speed drops to around 600MB/s. The review OP provided tested 5GB and 6GB mkv files (which are pretty useless sustained write tests). The whole point of a sustained write test is to test how the drive performs once the SLC cache runs out. So, those were merely real life SLC cache write tests. P3's dynamic SLC cache could be up to ~250GB, but that's when the drive is empty. Copying a 5GB or 6GB file when the SSD is empty, P3 should win easily.

    So when you just fill the SSD up to 250GB, Kioxia G2 will have a tough time beating P3 (wouldn't surprise me P3 actually beats it). However, once the drive is filled up above 60%, the table quickly turns.

    If you prefer this SSD, then return it and buy this one.

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      MagnamoniousRex on 02/10/2022 - 08:15

      If you're not filling your SSD above 50% you're wasting your money.

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        netsurfer on 02/10/2022 - 10:39

        +1

        So what's the dynamic SLC cache of P3 once the drive is 50% filled and 75% filled. If the SSD's dynamic cache is still larger than this one at 75%, then is P3 still okay?

        The question is not just how much storage one would use. It is also about how much data you put in each time. Assuming you intend to fill the SSD up to say 850GB, are you going to do it in one go?

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      Noob Noob on 02/10/2022 - 22:49

      "If you managed to stay in the SLC cache part and avoid running into situation where DRAMless SSDs tank, P3 can be faster"

      Doesn't that mean that the Kioxia with DRAM is better for everyday/normal usage?

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  ssAstro on 02/10/2022 - 08:17

  +1

  Linus brought me here.

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  Micsmit on 02/10/2022 - 22:59

  +1

  I understand you guys are focusing on large file transfers but after you install a game it's only much smaller eads that are important. 1-10gb at a time

  I'm sure you don't plan to be moving 500gb files endlessly for months on end. Flash memory has limited write cycles anyway

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  Tleaves on 02/10/2022 - 23:45

  I wonder why the link is the only one saying the DRAM cache is 1GB.

  On their official website, they are not talking about the cache size at all.
  https://apac.kioxia.com/en-apac/personal/ssd/exceria-g2.html

  I saw another review that estimated the cache as around 20GB, but cannot find it again.

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    Phoebus on 02/10/2022 - 23:55

    +1

    That's probably because the DRAM cache is 1 GB and the SLC cache is 20 GB

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  lachlantula on 04/10/2022 - 15:42

  +1

  awesome price, thanks op:)

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  Phoebus on 05/10/2022 - 13:00

  +1

  Ordered. Good option for a miniPC that doesn't support PCIe 4.

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  FireRunner on 06/10/2022 - 18:38

  +1

  Awesome, got one

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  Bedgrub on 07/10/2022 - 11:40

  Presumably Gen1, 2 and 3 NVMe's are backwards compatible with M.2 slots in older devices (e.g. an 8th-gen NUC)?

  Can they take full advantage of their speed and newer features?

  Edit: Intel's spec sheets shows the M.2 8th-Gen NUCs as supporting 4 PCIe lanes at Gen3, which suggests that this disk's speed and features would be fully supported?

  • 

    Phoebus on 07/10/2022 - 11:58

    +1

    yes.

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  dBagDealer on 07/10/2022 - 17:51

  would this fit inside a meLe quieter 3Q
  Spec says:
  Storage Expansion M.2 2280 PCIe3.0 SSD up to 5TB, Micro SD up to 2 TB

  Sorry if this is a very basic question.

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    [Deactivated] on 08/10/2022 - 11:26

    +1

    Yes