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ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen9 / Intel i7-1165G7 CPU / 14” WUXGA Touch Screen 400nits / 512GB SSD / 16GB RAM / $1748 Shipped @ Lenovo

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Hi all. I think you'll agree this is an incredibly spec'd machine at an awesome price. It's local stock with fixed specs and ready for dispatch (confirmed by Lenovo). Apply eCoupon TA-CARBONX1-GEN9 at checkout for discount. Call Lenovo's telesales number on 1300 557 073 with questions (until 5pm daily). Deal ends tonight (Sunday) at 11:59pm AEDT, unless sold out or withdrawn prior. Stay safe, and enjoy :)

  • 11th Gen Intel i7-1165G7 CPU
  • 14.0" WUXGA (1920x1200) 400nits
  • 512GB SSD M.2 PCIe
  • 16 GB LPDDR4X-4266MHz
  • 720P HD IR/RGB Hybrid Camera
  • Backlit Keyboard & Fingerprint Reader
  • Win10 Pro 64 preinstalled through downgrade rights in Win11 Pro 64
  • 315mm x 221.6mm x 14.9mm (1.133kg)
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  • bdl on 27/11/2022 - 10:19
    +1

    Is the 12th gen battery that much better than 11th that's it's worth waiting a deal for it?

    • HolyCr4p on 27/11/2022 - 11:05
      +1

      12th gen battery hey?

      • Epixx on 27/11/2022 - 11:25
        +6

        Power efficiency compared to last gen. The chip not the battery of course.

        • bdl on 27/11/2022 - 13:37

          thanks

      • bdl on 27/11/2022 - 13:37
        -7

        battery life you muppet

        • oO0Dam0Oo on 27/11/2022 - 18:51
          +3

          Not very nice

    • brosk1s on 27/11/2022 - 13:31
      +2

      Battery life and thermal performance is much worse on the 12th Gen X1C10 than on this 11th Gen X1C9.

      Some laptops work well with 12th gen but the current carbon isn't one of them

      • bdl on 27/11/2022 - 13:37

        Perfect, thanks. Exactly the info I wanted to know.

  • Bearlion on 27/11/2022 - 10:23
    +61

    Doesn't seem a great deal tbh, very expensive.

    • Oxxy on 27/11/2022 - 10:26
      +4

      Yeah, seems a bit pricey for what you get.

      • Bearlion on 27/11/2022 - 10:28

        touch screen adds to the price though!

        • mrtee on 27/11/2022 - 11:31
          +7

          Touch screen on laptops are so over rated

          • eug on 27/11/2022 - 11:41
            +3

            @mrtee: To you, sure. To me… I would never buy a laptop without a touchscreen. Once I got used to it, I couldn't go back. I find it a lot more intuitive for some things like dismissing dialog boxes, scrolling, zooming in and out, etc.

            • boomramada on 27/11/2022 - 12:23
              +6

              @eug: You need a good mouse 😆

              • eug on 27/11/2022 - 15:23
                -1

                @boomramada:

                You need a good mouse

                I have a good mouse which I barely use as it slows me down. A mouse is the most inefficient way to do certain operations like clicking on things that you can't tab to.

                The point is, yup, touchscreens are overrated if you don't know how to use them, or don't do tasks that would benefit from them.

                But different people use their laptops differently - not everybody uses their laptops the same way you do. For people whose workflow can benefit from it, and they've learned how to use it effectively, it's difficult to go back to a non-touch laptop.

                • stephendt on 27/11/2022 - 16:58
                  -3

                  @eug: You definitely sound like you either have a garbage mouse, or don't know how to use one properly. A mouse is definitely more efficient than using a touchscreen. Plus, almost every external monitor is non-touch. I'm not giving up my external monitor anytime soon.

                  • eug on 27/11/2022 - 18:30
                    +2

                    @stephendt:

                    You definitely sound like you either have a garbage mouse, or don't know how to use one properly. A mouse is definitely more efficient than using a touchscreen.

                    You missed the part where I said "different people use their laptops differently".

                    Touchscreens aren't for everyone, just like how touchpads or trackpoints aren't for everyone. Some people simply prefer using a mouse because that's what they've been using for the past 20 years, or just find it more efficient with the tasks they do.

                    But you need to keep in mind that there are many people in this world. There is more than one way to use a laptop, and not everybody uses their laptop the way you do. Just because you don't think touchscreens are useful for what you do doesn't mean nobody can find them useful with what they do.

                    If there is something on the screen that needs to be clicked on, you have to move your hands from the keyboard to your mouse, move the mouse pointer to the target, and click.

                    With a touchscreen you just move your finger from the keyboard to the target.

                    Plus, almost every external monitor is non-touch. I'm not giving up my external monitor anytime soon.

                    What does that have to do with using a touchscreen on a laptop? Laptops are primarily designed to be portable - not everyone uses their laptop at a desk with an external monitor connected. In that use case, a mouse is closer to the keyboard than a monitor so it can be quicker to use a mouse. It just depends on what your setup is like, what apps you use, what you need to do, what you're used to, and how open you are to different ways of doing things.

                  • xmail on 27/11/2022 - 20:20
                    +3

                    @stephendt: Many people use laptops on their lap etc where a mouse is impractical. I'm using mine in bed atm. Otherwise they might be better off choosing a desktop machine. There are many use cases for a touchscreen.

                    If my only use case was using it at a desk I could survive without a touchscreen. But it's not, hence I would never get a laptop without touchscreen.

              • oO0Dam0Oo on 27/11/2022 - 18:52

                @boomramada: The (profanity) ate it.

            • KRRacing on 27/11/2022 - 12:25
              +4

              @eug: For my work (engineering), the combination of touch screen, 360 deg. screen and the pen is invaluable. During the Teams meeting I could just flip the screen, take out the pen and start scribbling to illustrate what I mean. I am very happy that the company supplies L13 Yoga to us.

            • iregretmyusername on 27/11/2022 - 13:48
              +1

              @eug: Me too. I like that I can sign PDF using the screen.

      • drfuzzy on 27/11/2022 - 10:28
        +1

        Compared to what? Seems a bargain compared to a 14" macbook pro m1

        • Bearlion on 27/11/2022 - 10:30
          +6

          so does my 2nd hand portable AC ($200), up on gumtree if interested.

    • abadacus on 27/11/2022 - 11:05
      +7

      it will still get +100 though 'cos tightarse.
      Its an 'awesome' deal because of the kickbacks he receives

    • [Deactivated] on 27/11/2022 - 11:45
      +1

      For $1700, would expect an RTX 3070 mobile

      Comparison, $900 a month ago for this Yoga

      • [Deactivated] on 27/11/2022 - 11:54
        +1

        That was great deal.

      • eug on 27/11/2022 - 15:01
        +4

        You cannot compare a Yoga to a ThinkPad. There's a reason why the same company has different tiers.

  • voldemort on 27/11/2022 - 10:28
    +16

    1300-1400 would be a great deal, this is just mediocre

  • [Deactivated] on 27/11/2022 - 10:30
    +5

    I think it's very light 1.1kgs, which may appeal to some.

    Yeah spec wise, doesn't shout amazing to me for value wise tho.

    The Yoga 7 series is probably better, latest gen AMD and even the ram is ddr5.

  • vihand on 27/11/2022 - 10:30
    +1

    Cashrewards 10% cashback makes it even cheaper

  • maverickjohn on 27/11/2022 - 10:31

    Id say the microsoft laptop studio are far better value than this now. It's still bit more pricey than this but a better laptop overall.
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/175484102326

    • vihand on 27/11/2022 - 10:44
      +1

      1.1kg vs 1.8kg? And I don't think Microsoft quality is great as Lenovo as I used to have 2 different model of surface pro. They both broke soon after the warranty.

      • maverickjohn on 27/11/2022 - 11:48
        -1

        https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/175445301449
        There is the non studio option if you want lighter and cheaper.
        Also surface laptop would be different to surface pro. But I hear you
        Microsoft are easy to deal with when it comes to faults and returns though

  • Fastgun on 27/11/2022 - 10:35
    -1

    MacBook Air M2 FTW 😉

    • [Deactivated] on 27/11/2022 - 10:45

      What's the cheapest these go?

      Outperforms latest AMD 6800U.

      But the ram may be limiting for music production :/

    • bryans on 27/11/2022 - 12:15
      -1

      MacOS is a generation behind Windows

      • [Deactivated] on 27/11/2022 - 12:47
        +1

        What do you mean?

      • Unbreakable on 27/11/2022 - 18:05
        -2

        Plus the others, it's so resource hungry, always hammering RAM and CPU.

  • Ozb101 on 27/11/2022 - 10:38

    What about the surface laptop 4 on sale at MS ebay. Ryzen 7 16GB RAM 512GB for $17xx?

  • Proliferation on 27/11/2022 - 10:43
    +4

    Meh. I actually want one of these, but looking on the US Lenovo store I saw their US Black Friday prices on the 10th Gen and so all this does is make me annoyed; Americans can get the newer model with a 12th gen top-binned i7 cpu plus a 4K screen and 5G WWAN for equivalent of 2400 AUD.
    This is our side slapping a mediocre discount on the overpriced nearly 2 year old model and hoping to clear a few units from the storeroom.

    • bboT on 27/11/2022 - 10:49
      +1

      People always forget about tax when whining about US pricing.

      Not to mention market size…as well as the vastly different base price point difference between these two models anyway…

      • Proliferation on 27/11/2022 - 10:59
        +2

        Yes there’s other factors, but is the product of those disparities enough to justify that the same machine configuration as listed above works out to be over 4000 AUD?

        • eug on 27/11/2022 - 11:55
          +1

          but is the product of those disparities enough to justify that the same machine configuration as listed above works out to be over 4000 AUD?

          Lenovo's pricing strategy is pretty awful. You're looking at their full RRP price which nobody realistically pays. Unless you're a business buyer who doesn't care, you'd always wait for when they have deals.

          e.g. right now the 10th gen X1 Carbon with i5-1240P is $2359. It costs $250 to upgrade that to an i7-1260P, but unfortunately at the moment the $2359 price is for a "ready to ship" model that doesn't let you upgrade the processor, so you have to wait for Lenovo to do a better deal on it.

          • Proliferation on 27/11/2022 - 12:19
            +1

            @eug: There’s a 26%(?) discount on the build-your-own configurator model, and the $4k figure I quoted is with/after that discount.

            And look, sorry if I was bitter in that earlier post- been weighing the options a lot the past few days due to circumstances of needing* a new lightweight laptop and I’m still reeling from the costs; wouldn’t care so much to be paying >$2k for something in this weight category if they weren’t really turning the screws on Australian customers with the soldered RAM and WWAN upgrade pricing.
            But thanks for your input.

            *for context, this is a genuine imminent need. Without oversharing, it might be that I have to just order a unit with only the antenna installed, and hotspot my phone until I can afford an actual LTE modem to install later.

            • eug on 27/11/2022 - 15:15
              +1

              @Proliferation: There's always a discount but those aren't the real deals that most non-business people would actually buy.

              As I mentioned above, if you take the upgrade prices in the BYO configurator and add the i7 upgrade to the i5 prebuilt model, an X1 Gen 10 i7-1270P/16GB/512GB is $2,609. The 2.8K OLED upgrade is $370 on top of that, 4K IPS (battery killer really) is $130 on top of that.

              Australia is a small market with high labour costs so it's not surprising we don't have prices as low as the US.

            • mskeggs on 27/11/2022 - 17:17
              +1

              @Proliferation: You can but the LTE cards on ebay pretty inexpensively if you can accept older units/4g speeds

    • AnotherHuman on 27/11/2022 - 15:46
      +2

      We definitely get shafted in Australia compared to US Lenovo store. Lack of stocked 32GB RAM models, pathetic discounts on customisable models, limited options for screens, high end models non existent.

      I spent ages looking for a good ThinkPad and got sick of all their bullshit. Switched to Framework laptop now.

      • [Deactivated] on 27/11/2022 - 17:39

        I came to the exact same conclusion. How are you finding the framework? What sort of battery life are you getting?

        • AnotherHuman on 27/11/2022 - 23:00

          After some initial pain with Intel iGPU kernel drivers in Fedora (sorted in F37), it's been working really well as my main machine. Rock solid.

          I've been using it at present as a desktop replacement in my home office docked to my Thunderbolt monitor, ergonomic keyboard, studio monitors, etc so haven't got around to optimising battery life nor using it on battery for extended periods.

          Still using my old ThinkPad for casual browsing in the living room as I can't be bothered rearranging windows when plugging/unplugging heh.

          • [Deactivated] on 27/11/2022 - 23:14

            @AnotherHuman: Cool thanks. Do you use it in clamshell mode then when docked? I heard that might cause overheating based off the positioning of the exhaust vents.

            • AnotherHuman on 28/11/2022 - 09:24

              @[Deactivated]: @synergy

              Do you use it in clamshell mode then when docked?

              Nope, I always have it open as an auxiliary screen to the side of my ultrawide to glance at things like Spotify song, monitoring a Slack channel, etc and for the fingerprint reader.

              Yeah, I would be concerned using it in clamshell mode with the exhaust vent based on the way the hinge works. That's one thing Lenovo got right with the X1 Yoga (but not the carbon).

      • qvinto on 28/11/2022 - 05:10
        +2

        The Lenovo store is full of bullshit - constantly changing prices with all sorts of fake coupon sales and limited configuration options for Australian's compared to the US (even though they ship everything out of the same factory in china anyway). This nonsense is why i gave up on getting anything from Lenovo.

        • AnotherHuman on 28/11/2022 - 09:28

          @qvinto

          100% agreed.

          Whoever runs their Australian operations should get fired.

  • SydneySchnorrer on 27/11/2022 - 10:44
    +6

    Great device but still above an acceptable cyber monday price for a 12-18 months old model with mid-level specs.

  • rendezvous on 27/11/2022 - 10:50
    +5

    We have these for work. Battery life is only 4 hours max, build quality is good. Screen is not good in daylight. Unable to see with polarised sunglasses on.

    • Noblejoker on 27/11/2022 - 13:01

      4 hours - surely a typo or a defect - the whole point of these ultrabooks is long battery life right?

      • [Deactivated] on 27/11/2022 - 14:22

        Probably referring to gen 10 models. This should get around 10 hours

      • rendezvous on 27/11/2022 - 15:27

        Gen 9 Model here. Start work at 8:30am 100% full charge. By lunch time 12:30-1pm the battery is dead and needs recharging.

        • [Deactivated] on 27/11/2022 - 16:29

          That's pretty bad

        • Noblejoker on 28/11/2022 - 12:01

          Wow! Online reviews like this Toms Guide say 14 hours of battery
          If you are only getting 4 hours I would be doing an RMA on that machine

    • suryaya on 27/11/2022 - 13:53
      +1

      That doesn't seem right. I get 7 hours (on Linux!) and it's bright enough for me to work outside.

  • charlie123 on 27/11/2022 - 10:50

    Hi TA, are you able to get a deal for part # 21CB0003AU?

    Many thanks

  • jdhau on 27/11/2022 - 10:54
    +3

    Meh. 11th gen intel is basically irrelevant with the leap of performance made in 12th gen. 6000 series AMD is even better though.

  • iseeyou1312 on 27/11/2022 - 10:57
    +4

    Where is the deal? Intel Nuc m15s have been almost half this price?

  • BargainsGrabber on 27/11/2022 - 11:02
    +1

    Don’t forget 10% cashback :)
    Code is listed on CR

  • chunfat on 27/11/2022 - 11:02

    Great deal when compared to the:
    ThinkPad X1 Yoga Gen 7 - Intel® Core™ i5-1240P.
    14" WQUXGA (3840 x 2400), OLED 500 nits. (Touch)
    WWAN Slot for future upgrade (without 5G modem)
    Other specs are similar to this post.

    The best price I negotiated it for my business account was $2479.

    I just wanted the 12th gen X1 Yoga version because of the embedded pen and the 360 degrees opening screen. Otherwise this is a super deal because it is extremely light weight.

  • TRANCE on 27/11/2022 - 11:15
    +3

    I got the 10th gen for $1850 through the education store earlier this year, basically the same other than the 12th gen CPU. I highly recommend these laptops, remarkably light, great build quality and features, its a laptop you want to use its so nice.

    • ttkc on 27/11/2022 - 11:33

      How long do you plan to use it for? $1850 is a lot of money for a laptop. Personally would rather a $1000 laptop every three years.

      • chunfat on 27/11/2022 - 12:03
        +1

        I tend to find that I keep the laptop for over 5years now. My last purchase was for a 7th gen back in black Friday deal on nov 2017.

      • TRANCE on 27/11/2022 - 12:26
        +2

        I'd probably only keep this one for three or four years also, but I'd still have a nicer laptop for all that time, this thing is a tank, you can't bend/flex the lid or chassis, it's just rigid, you can toss it around and not worry, couple that with the weight, feel, performance, the quality of the screen, keyboard, chassis, speakers, webcam, is all better than 1k laptops, and I value that seeing as that's what I'm looking/touching everyday. Personally I consider it money well spent, but if one doesn't really care about how things look/feel, durability, or premium features, then yeah a $1000 laptop will do what you need of it for three years no question. The competitors to this would be Macbook air, but that's still heavier and not as durable despite being made of aluminum, and Surface Pro 8 is in the same boat. I'd take the Lenovo all day.

      • daft009 on 27/11/2022 - 15:42
        +1

        I'm still rocking my gen 6 with Intel 8th gen as a daily.
        Was 2.5k back then.
        Built-in 4g SIM is awesome

  • [Deactivated] on 27/11/2022 - 11:34

    How is this compared to
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/403986579369 For $1k ?

    • chunfat on 27/11/2022 - 12:06

      Touch and feel, heavy, and large. It depends what you like in this case.

  • ChairmanMeow on 27/11/2022 - 11:35
    +3

    My X1 Carbon 3rd Gen from 2015 is still going strong. Great laptop and very nice to use. I'd highly recommend it. Back then, I was choosing between Surface Pro 3, XPS13, and this and I ultimately chose X1 Carbon due to the really comfortable keyboard and lightweight (Traveling from US to backpack around Australia). Considering this deal as an upgrade.

    • ninjalot on 27/11/2022 - 12:00
      +1

      X1 Carbon 5th Gen still going strong here. Was always a fan of the old IBM Thinkpad keyboards, glad Lenovo didn't mess with it when they bought IBM's laptop business

      • AnotherHuman on 27/11/2022 - 15:50

        They have got shallower after the X1 Carbon 6th gen.

  • takutox on 27/11/2022 - 11:45
    +11

    The value proposition here is the 1kg weight and the build quality. It's not about the specs but the weight. The main selling point is that it is light (thus the name carbon).

    You can't compare this to a cheaper 1.8kg laptop and say it has the same ram and processor

    If you need and can benefit from the weight and build quality (say you're a uni student or walk a long time), there's nothing else that compares. It just feels nice, works nice and is much better than an XPS or similar (I own both). These devices feel premium.

    Not a uni student, don't have salary packaging? Don't care about laptop weight? Like saving money? Don't travel? Don't like 14 in screens? This laptop isn't for you

    Love super light super build quality nice screen laptop that is wonderful to use? Wanna go through the airport holding a feather? Then the $1.8k might just be worth it

    • lltravel on 27/11/2022 - 12:02

      lol you forgot that this is ozbargain
      they would compare a camry to a ferrari its pathetic

      i agree with your comments.

    • Sertacv2 on 27/11/2022 - 12:08

      I agree. I have the gen 8 for work and absolutely love it due to how light it is. Work keeps offering me other laptops such as surface laptop 4 or xps 13 but they just feel so heavy compared

  • Baa on 27/11/2022 - 11:55
    +1

    This is my work machine for the past 18 months or so.

    As others have mentioned build quality is great, I am still able to push about 6 hours battery out of it and it is very light and portable.

    Might not but it right now if I was looking, but certainly a good laptop

  • GregRust on 27/11/2022 - 12:01
    +2

    This or M1 MacBook Air w/ 16GB/512GB for $1813.90?

    https://www.apple.com/au_edu_5000447/shop/buy-mac/macbook-ai…

    • GregRust on 27/11/2022 - 13:51
      +6

      Why neg? MBA has better screen, far superior performance and battery life, excellent build quality.

      • [Deactivated] on 27/11/2022 - 17:56

        Well some cons of MBA: can't upgrade storage, screen is very fragile and easily broken and costs $600+ to replace, no trackpoint (red nipple), relatively worse speakers (compared to this X1, according to reviews), can only output to out external monitor (without workarounds)

  • hlg0606 on 27/11/2022 - 12:16

    How is this x1 gen 7 compared to surface pro 8?

  • p1 ama on 27/11/2022 - 12:58
    +2

    This isn't a great deal. The previous generation i7-1165G7 will very quickly become a bottleneck for such an expensive laptop.

    For example - see: https://youtu.be/UK5T4SvTgeQ?t=221. The current generation Ryzen 7 6800U or i7-1260P are much, much faster than the i7-1165G7.

    If you have education pricing, I would suggest the 10th Gen X1 Carbon, which has the i5-1240P, 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD for $1823. Don't be fooled by the i5, the 12th gen i5 has 4P/8E 12th gen cores, which will be significantly faster than the i7-1165G7 which will only have 4 11th gen cores.

    • takutox on 27/11/2022 - 14:02
      -2

      If the 10% Cr works, then the final price of $1573 for this laptop is much better.

      There's no point of paying $250 more for a processor difference that 99.99% of the population wouldn't be able to tell or use. On benchmarks the 1240p vs 1165g7 like 10% faster and only in theory.

      I really doubt people would be able to tell in a blind test which processor is being used lol. The difference is miniscule. You also can't just randomly compare other more powerful or ideal chips that aren't part of a deal; I don't see the relevance here.

      • p1 ama on 27/11/2022 - 14:18

        There's no point of paying $250 more for a processor difference that 99.99% of the population wouldn't be able to tell or use.

        That's simply just not true. The 1165G7 was already a poor CPU when it launched, and it's an even poorer CPU today.

        The X1 Carbon is a business laptop - I would bet a large proportion (more than your "0.01%" statistic) would be using it for programming - I see a noticeable difference in compilation times between my 1165G7 laptop and 6800U laptop (which will be similar in performance to the i7-1260P).

        Clearly the performance differences are there and will only grow over time as apps becoming increasingly developed for core-heavy CPUs.

        I really doubt people would be able to tell in a blind test which processor is being used lol.

        Yes, which is why you need benchmarks to be able to quantify the differences in performance.

        You use blind trials for metrics which are subjective (e.g. sound quality from different headphones). You use benchmarks for metrics which are objective (e.g. how long does a CPU take to compile my app).

        You also can't just randomly compare other more powerful or ideal chips that aren't part of a deal; I don't see the relevance here.

        So you can't ever compare a deal to something else? If so then how would you judge whether a deal is good or not?

        The entire basis for judging the value of a product is to compare it to other products. What are you smoking?

        • takutox on 27/11/2022 - 14:53

          You are listing processors that aren't even on sale or part of any other deal you have listed. That's like saying rtx 3070/3080 is better in a 3060 deal. Yes they are.. they are also a lot more expensive and in the case of Lenovo not even configured with Ryzen

          Difference between 1240p and 1165g7 is not even worth noting.

          Also, yes, your processor is barely better but at $250 more final price..

          If it was same price then yes feel free to compare and say get the better one. $250 more? No way. Seems like you're the one that is smoking something if you think +$250 is worth a marginal non-noticeable increase in theoretical performance.

          https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/intel-core-i7-1165g7-v…

          Enjoy your 7-10% I guess?

          You aren't comparing 1260p to 1165g7, or a Ryzen, which is the video you gave; video was not relevant and useless and the equivalent of saying a 3070 is better than a 3060. You listed a 1240p that barely has any difference for $250 more. Seems like you're confused with 1260p vs 1240p or have a super brain that can tell theoretical 7% differences.

          • p1 ama on 27/11/2022 - 15:36

            @takutox:

            You are listing processors that aren't even on sale or part of any other deal you have listed. That's like saying rtx 3070/3080 is better in a 3060 deal. Yes they are.. they are also a lot more expensive and in the case of Lenovo not even configured with Ryzen

            Yes - to be able to assess the value of a deal, you need to be able to compare with how it lines up with other products in the value stack.

            To your point - if you have a 3060 deal for $400, how would you know whether it's a good deal or not? If a 3070 is $800, then it's comparatively a good deal, whereas if a 3070 was $450, then it would not be a good deal.

            If someone posted a deal for a 3060 and a 3070 was $50 more, then that's worth mentioning right? Or is it "not part of any other deal"?

            Enjoy your 7-10% I guess?

            Not sure what you're on with the $250 comment - what I suggested was going from a $1748 1165G7 config to a $1823 config - which is a ~$75 difference. I personally think that a ~$75 difference for 7 - 10% more performance is fair.

            Seems like you're confused with 1260p vs 1240p or have a super brain that can tell theoretical 7% differences.

            Calm down buddy - you seem to have a chip on your shoulder for some reason. I suggested going with the latest model for ~$75 more, it's not the end of the world. It's an alternative that informed shoppers should be aware of. Even if it's not for you, it might be for someone else.

            No need to ride around on your high horse - in your 9 years around this place, you've posted a total of zero deals so not sure where your puffery comes from.

            • takutox on 27/11/2022 - 15:38

              @p1 ama:

              Calm down buddy - you seem to have a chip on your shoulder for some reason

              I am calm. I don't have a chip on my shoulder.

              What are you smoking?

              I'm not the one that was initially aggressive and replied to a friendly discussion with "what are you smoking" and then start attacking the other poster. Seems a bit of projection to claim IM the one with a chip on my shoulder don't you think? If you can dish it you can take it, surely

              You are not eligible for 10% CR under education store. I clearly said IF Cr is eligible (which it looks like it is because this code is listed), but then you got triggered. I've explained the final $1573 price even and even said 10% cr.. not my fault you can't read

              The person smoking is for sure the one justifying a 7% faster processor in theoretical benchmarks for +$250 saying it will be a "bottleneck" and linking videos of much better and more expensive processors that aren't even remotely related to either processor in both deals loll.

              I see you edited your posts to include two more angry paragraphs personally attacking me. I mean, pay $250 more for the 7% performance difference.. doesn't make a difference to me, no need to get THAT triggered over my reasonable opinion

              To your point - if you have a 3060 deal for $400, how would you know whether it's a good deal or not? If a 3070 is $800, then it's comparatively a good deal, whereas if a 3070 was $450, then it would not be a good deal.

              That's EXACTLY what I was discussing. I said the price $250 cheaper after CR is nowhere near worth it for 7% on CPU; you get angry saying it's just $75 ignoring the literal direct point of my response and attacking a strawman when I literally, first thing I do, is mention the final price after cashback. 😂

              The silly thing you did was say 'x' CPU is better then this 'y' CPU and then link a deal that's $250 more with a much more inferior 'z' CPU. My boy seriously talks about 1260p then links a 1240p deal.. like 40% performance difference. I'm sorry, that's not how you do comparison 😂😂😂

    • suryaya on 27/11/2022 - 14:03
      +2

      The 1260P has terrible battery life though. Ideally the X1 Carbon would have a ryzen 6000 but this line is intel only.

      IMO, the 9th gen is currently the best carbon generation if you want a 16:10 display

      • bdl on 27/11/2022 - 14:17

        thanks for the feedback re 12th gen

      • takutox on 27/11/2022 - 16:32
        +1

        The other difference is that the 1260p is not available in any other laptop in this price range in this form factor. You'd be looking $2k upwards (actually, 3k is more the norm).. or $1.4k+ for a heavy and bad build quality one via HP.

        A bit pointless to say a 1260p can be up to 1.4x faster, but then it's not available and extremely expensive.

        Please do not confuse 1260p with 1240p as it looks like this person has. The new gen 1240p is slow with barely any difference. There will always be new and faster processors, but most of the time they are overkill / overheat or super expensive. There is no guarantee these new gen will drop in price or become available anytime soon.

        The 1240p linked is only 7% difference at best.

        • vihand on 27/11/2022 - 17:12
          +1

          Asus Zenbook UX3402ZA 1.39kg. 1260P/16/512. $1599.

  • brilliantmik on 27/11/2022 - 13:13
    +1

    FHD 1920x1080. Ew.

    • abadacus on 27/11/2022 - 18:49

      1920x1200

  • suryaya on 27/11/2022 - 13:56
    +1

    I have this exact spec, I bought it used for that price from Grays.

    It's an extremely good machine, on paper the specs don't seem worth the price, but when you consider the build quality, screen and most of all the keyboard it's worth it for 1.7k. Unless you've used a flagship thinkpad before you don't know how nice these are.

    (Not simping for Lenovo, I still wouldn't pay more than 1.7k for this)

    • takutox on 27/11/2022 - 15:51
      +1

      I have the exact same feeling and experience. It doesn't seem special on paper at all until you have it in your hands and use it.

      Hope TA can confirm if 10% CR is eligible. It shows in the CR codes. At $1573~ after cashback I'd consider pulling the trigger as a uni laptop upgrade for the missus. Doesn't have the 8gb ram limitation of a lot of the older gens on sale.

      I agree at 1.7k it's starting to push the upper boundary of it's value.

  • AussieMark on 27/11/2022 - 15:03
    +4

    I tried the x1 gen 10 or was terrible.

    It got so hot that it melted my lap and everything nearby. Was constantly hitting 100 degrees just from opening 1 chrome browser and nothing else.

    Sent it back… Tried 3 laptops identical as they assured me I was unlucky. After the third one stayed at 100 degrees also I gave up

    Loved my x 1 gen 4 or gen 6

    • hlg0606 on 27/11/2022 - 17:53

      My x1 carbon gen 6 fan noise is absolutely annoying. When it is summer, I can feels like the airplane engine soaring .
      Have to reduce the cpu max power to 85% to prevent this happening .
      Should have it fixed during the 3 year warranty period.

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