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Inno3D GeForce RTX 4090 iChill X3 OC 24GB Graphics Card $2939 + Delivery ($0 C&C) @ Umart

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Inno3D GeForce RTX 4090 iChill X3 OC 24GB Graphics Card $2939 + Delivery ($0 C&C) @ Umart
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timfrombriz on 25/01/2023 - 13:40 umart.com.au (452 clicks)
Last edited 25/01/2023 - 14:27 by 2 other users

Lots of talk about PNY, Gainward, Inno3D 4090's being lower of 3k price point, Gainward are grey imports, bad for warranty, PNY arent getting much love, so I tried out this Inno3D because I couldnt find much about it and wanted to share my experience.

Did some benchmarking on it running stock. I got 413% (97% percentile) for 4090's which is batshit crazy. This thing can run everything maxed out in 4K in Cyberpunk and still hit three digit fps. I didnt even see a youtuber achieve this in any 4090 benchmarks, this board is lighting fast.
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/58656123

Im told these Inno3D AIB's apparently are the FE boards, which may be an advantage.

Prices on GPU's suck, Its either all in on a 4090, or buy a Arc A750 ($369), or 2nd hand mid range if you can find a 3080. The performance difference between a 4080 and 4090 is massive, theres nothing that seems to offer value for money.

Given that, not a bad price for a 4090 given other brands are upwards of $3k, Umart promo offers free delivery currently on these units.

[Edit]
Free delivery is an expired promo, my bad. Still leaving this up as I think this 4090 is a good performer, and value.
https://www.umart.com.au/promotions/516

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  • alvian on 25/01/2023 - 13:44

    Umart added delivery fee to my cart. How do you get free shipping?

    • rakeycakey on 25/01/2023 - 13:47

      it says + delivery ($0 C&C)

      • HomeAlone on 25/01/2023 - 13:48
        +3

        That's because the moderator who you just replied to edited the title :)

  • wisc on 25/01/2023 - 13:51
    +9

    No! No!
    https://images.app.goo.gl/qndyNjzgePVvD8cAA
    To ~3k graphics cards!

    • gizmomelb on 25/01/2023 - 18:04
      -3

      No! No! to $100,000 sports cars! to $40,000 'normal' sedans!

      Yes! Yes! to $2000 second hand, 20 year old commodores!

      Buy whatever you can afford and makes you happy.

      • wisc on 29/01/2023 - 23:33

        I think my main issue here is that just a couple of years ago a top end graphics card was maybe 1500-2K bux… (3090)

        now because of the mining and shortages, they saw what scalpers where selling them to the rich for much much more and want to get in on the action, hence a graphics card has almost doubled in price… well at least gone up one third… in the space of a few years… thats not right… and the only way that tech companies will learn is if we the consumers don't fall for it!

        that said, I have heard the production costs of a 4090 are quite high.

        • bretty92 on 30/01/2023 - 12:26

          My 1080ti was $920 AUD gone are the times you can buy flagship gaming cards for under 1k.

  • Count Shagula on 25/01/2023 - 13:55
    +6

    I agree with your statement all in on 4090 or just go with an Arc 750 but maybe consider the 7900XTX at $1500ish. Pretty shit priced options atm. I want a 4090 but its not worth it when my 3080 cost 1100 and then my 3090 second hand was like 800-900, i cant remember the exact price. >$2000 more for twice the fps… No thanks. I can afford to buy one but i draw the line at ~$1000 max for a GPU. We used to easily be able to build full high end machines for under 2k inc monitor and all the other crap. Prices suck atm

    • dr-collossus on 25/01/2023 - 14:01
      +10

      My take on it is this. I don't mind paying $1500 for a GPU (absolute max). I also don't mind not having a top-of-the-line GPU. But I do mind paying $1500 for a not top-of-the-line GPU.

      I can afford to buy one but […] Prices suck atm

      Yep, me too. I'll wait.

      • twister292 on 25/01/2023 - 17:12
        +1

        Realistically, the x080 series are supposed to be the top end consumer GPUs. The x090s will never be sub 2k, because they replace the Titans which were at least $3k, closer to 5k at times.

    • timfrombriz on 25/01/2023 - 14:09
      +2

      Looked at pricing trends for GPU's in the 30xx and 40xx range. There has been little movement in the last 18 months.
      https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/video-card/

      Nvidia share price is stronger than AMD and Intel, they have no reason to cut prices. (especially in the last month, not shown below)
      https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2022/8/18/saupload_9…

      Until AMD and Intel produce something to put competitive pressures on Nvidia's top range cards, and that will be at least a year away, I dont see any pressure on them to change their price points regardless of how bad their sales volume will be.

      Given the number of samples of 4090's tested on benchmark sites, people are buying them in volume, and if their profit margin is large, it offsets the need to cut prices to move stock.

      As much as the price point sucks, I honestly don't see Nvdia budging on the price until the 4090 TI and 50xx series release (late 2023), or AMD/Intel start gaining a competiting edge on performance (2024+).

      • ssfps on 25/01/2023 - 14:25
        +1

        Nvidia may be pivoting to this business model long term, where they are mainly interested in producing expensive high end cards, and almost completely abandoning the mid range, as they did previously with the low end. There are lots of markets and companies where this happens, so not like it's unprecedented.

        Considering node shrink costs are growing exponentially, it makes sense that they would move away from the "generational" marketing model toward maximizing profit per mm^2 of die space.

        • timfrombriz on 25/01/2023 - 14:44
          +2

          Nvidia are doing massive research in AI. If you follow some of their published whitepapers, they are really pushing the boundaries to having neural nets generate missing video data and geometry data and upscaling. This is stuff that will find its way into DLSS 4. They are way ahead of anyone else in visual AI.

          If AMD/Intel don't catch up, then NVidia can control the market price being the leader in cutting edge technology.

          • Count Shagula on 25/01/2023 - 21:05
            +3

            @timfrombriz: Yes Nvidia is in front but look at a 7900XTX on special. Its not that much slower at half the price. Raytracing is still meh (Im using nvidia atm) and im dubious of DLSS3. That extra latency is essentially a guarantee you'd always lose in online shooters even on 240/360hz screens. They can control the market all they want but as someone who can easily afford one atm i'm never spending that much. I'd rather put that money towards a new go kart or jetski these days and thats what im going to do. Which is out of character for me. I used to look forward to new cpu and gpu upgrades but the gpu side has pretty much made me not care about my pc anymore. If my pc cant play it on my 3090 ill just play on the xbox or ps5 for astronomically less money

      • botchie on 25/01/2023 - 14:26
        +9

        4090s are not being bought in droves , there is literally stock everywhere and it's not sold out
        That speaks volumes
        Sure they might not want to drop the price but they are not selling 1/4 of what they used to

        • PennyPincher11 on 25/01/2023 - 14:29

          Could less mining be a factor to that as well?

        • timfrombriz on 25/01/2023 - 14:36

          Any online sources for volumes of sales? Most of this stuff is speculative and not publicly shared. Sources Ive found speculatie around 250k units fytd.

          Yes, theres stock on the shelf, doesn't mean its not selling, just not selling in massive volume like a past high end $1.5k card would. 4080's arent moving, thats a global common theme.

          Theres a lot of samples on benchmark sites, comparing that with the 4080 and 4070 ti, that gives a relative indication of the sales volume by using a public metric.

          And if they are only selling under 1/4 of what they sold previously for their high end range, but their margins are massively higher, that offsets the need to turn over volume to make the same amount of money.

          I dont disagree, the prices suck, but I dont see any reason Nvidia will have a reduction in price anytime soon based on my original comments points.

          • botchie on 25/01/2023 - 16:56
            +3

            @timfrombriz: Are they really making more ? I guess .
            They did this with 2080 cards , then it was a massive drop for 3080 as AMD had a good alternative so yes , until that happens they will probably keep prices high but 3k for a GPU….jebus , rip off and a half
            I can buy it but on principle alone , don't want to

    • Svenlem on 25/01/2023 - 15:52

      If someone is looking at the bottom to mid market, I would avoid the ARC 750 and spend a bit more on the RX6700 non XT available for $469-$479 at a number of stores.

  • Hornpub on 25/01/2023 - 14:12
    +3

    also probably one of the smallest PCB for water block cooling according to optimum tech

    • nikftw on 25/01/2023 - 14:52
      +1

      Speaking of, they also have the Frostbite version for $3k (in WA at least) with a preinstalled Alphacool water lock, which when considering blocks retail for $200+ is pretty decent value. I got one earlier this week but didn't make a post because I think stock is fairly low.

      • Smilence03 on 25/01/2023 - 23:55
        +1

        the alphacool card that optimum tech did a youtube video on, is pretty much the same product as the inno3d frostbite, except that it didn't have any RGB or transparent water block like what frostbite did.

        well, with frostbite you do have the $200 alphacool water block, but you give up the gigantic copper heatsink/vaper chamber/triple fan cooler. I actually don't know if the manufacturing cost for the triple fan cooler is lower than the water block, but i reckon it's much of a muchness in terms of 'value'.

  • cloudie9 on 25/01/2023 - 14:19

    Hey OP, does this card gives you any audible coil whine? I am aiming for Asus TUF series but I heard its the worst. The best 4090 card with little to no coil whine is Gigabyte Gaming OC series. Thanks.

    • CrawlB4uBall on 25/01/2023 - 14:45
      +3

      I have a ASUS TUF 4090 and zero coil whine. My meshify 2 case doesn't close properly due to the AIO fouling on the MB heatsinks, so a small gap in the rear top corner is present and I still don't hear a whine.

      I picked mine up for $3199 from umart just before new years.

    • timfrombriz on 25/01/2023 - 14:47
      +1

      My Inno3D is silent as while under load. It barely sweats when under load

      • Smilence03 on 25/01/2023 - 23:49

        that is largely because all inno3d cards use the reference pcb design from nvidia, and have locked the power limit at 450w maximum. all inno3d cards only have 14+3 phases too.

        same for PNY, Zotac and certain Galax models which all use the reference pcb design. The gainward grey import use a slightly different pcb design, but almost identical to reference board.

  • Canberralad92 on 25/01/2023 - 14:42
    +1

    3k for a gpu, I'll pass. Thanks for sharing though.

    • John Doh on 25/01/2023 - 16:44
      +2

      Not even a thanks for sharing at these prices!

  • [Deactivated] on 25/01/2023 - 14:43
    +5

    Remember when top tier cards were around $1000 when launched? https://www.pocket-lint.com/games/news/nvidia/137557-nvidia-…

    Or even the top-notch Titan X? Was around $1700: https://www.anandtech.com/show/11253/nvidia-announces-nvidia…

    Now, we are speaking about $3000 for a discounted graphic card. It's ridiculous what happened to these prices. Sorry.

    • timfrombriz on 25/01/2023 - 14:55

      Prices suck. Yep. But will they change anytime in the next 12 months? I highly doubt it.

      Will people stop buying these cards at 3K? No, but less volume will sell.

      A top tier 4090 will last you many years into the future, so you get future proofness as well as top tier performance for the sucky price now.

      Will they be cheaper in the future if you wait, that's why I brought now, because I dont see things changing any time soon. (as per my comment reasons above)

  • MyBoyBlue on 25/01/2023 - 14:48
    +4

    I’ve not seen any bad comments about the PNY at all… where is there ‘no love’?

    • Alcaro on 25/01/2023 - 15:10
      +2

      Yeah, it's one of the best regarded from the under the radar makers. That said I come across lots of people don't trust components that lack tacky asus branding decals.

    • timfrombriz on 25/01/2023 - 15:11
      -1

      Based on other PNY deals listed here. Comments from others say its a rebadged 4090 from some never heard of brand, and the warranty for past PNY products has been painful.

      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/748490

      Plus its athestics seem to invoke 'no love'

      • User102430 on 25/01/2023 - 15:13
        +2

        According to Australian laws, warranty comes from the seller, so no need to contact PNY.
        Re looks, if it's the quietest, then it doesn't bother me at all…

      • Smilence03 on 26/01/2023 - 00:13

        this model is just a rebadged 'Manli 4090 Gallardo' that is being sold in the US.

        They all came out of the same factory i'm sure, but got put into different boxes for different regions in the world.

    • User102430 on 25/01/2023 - 15:12
      +2

      Exactly. Plus, all reviews say it's one of the quietest 4090 on the market - see this for example:
      https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pny-rtx-4090-xlr8-rgb-r…

    • ry34 on 25/01/2023 - 16:31
      +1

      my last GPU was a PNY 3090, which I never had an issue with (so I cant comment on the warranty) but it was a solid performer and had no coil while.

      "PNY has been in business for over 30 years and has been NVIDIA’s Authorized Quadro and Embedded Solutions Partner across NALA and EMEAI since 2002."
      Based on their history, you think they would know how to produce a decent GPU.

    • Junk Sifter on 03/02/2023 - 01:32

      The PNY card is built on the same reference NVIDIA PCB design as this Inno3D.

      Cooling performance is similar according to reviews. All 4090s seem to be overbuilt and handle the stock 450W power limit just fine, so might as well save the $40.

  • Kelvin on 25/01/2023 - 15:24

    Inno3d, put terrible fans. on their cards..

    I've had five cards with fans issues…

    three of them are inno3d cards.. (and I dont have many inno3d cards in my setup)
    No support in Australia… they tell you to go back to the reseller.
    Unless you are the original purchaser (ie your name on the receipt).. or can get the original purchaser to arrange the RMA,..
    you pretty much get told to get stuffed..

    • ry34 on 25/01/2023 - 16:23
      +1

      the only Inno3d card I've used was a factory AIO watercooled 2080ti, card was flawless

  • Yve on 25/01/2023 - 15:25

    Probably stock VRMs but better cooler and better binning?
    I'd recommend running 3Dmark instead of userbenchmark though

  • Mondorock on 25/01/2023 - 15:27
    -2

    lol at this card, running ported games from consoles designed to run on 10-year-old PS4s.

    • Canberralad92 on 25/01/2023 - 15:56
      -1

      Yeah agreed - my 3080 is fine even at 4k, probably 1% of games on the market require a 4090 to enjoy it.

      • raybies on 27/01/2023 - 23:41

        I'm playing Cyberpunk on my 3070 just fine… on my Dell 49".

      • Canberralad92 on 28/01/2023 - 21:54

        Salty 4090 owners downvoting lol.

  • S1nn3r86 on 25/01/2023 - 16:38
    +1

    The prices are insane lol. Take off at least $800 and im keen

  • dfg555 on 25/01/2023 - 19:31

    Always wondered how these lesser known brands in OZ are when it comes to Warranty?

  • mmcs on 25/01/2023 - 20:08

    How about this for $2899 at scorptec - ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity OC 24GB

    https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/graphics-cards/nvidia/99…

    • Smilence03 on 25/01/2023 - 23:41

      This particular zotac card has been at this exact price point for over a month now. I have been paying attention to all 4090 prices every day since December 2022, and the price for this inno3d card that OP is so keen to recommend to everyone for isn't even the cheapest on the market.

      Thus I'm totally baffled why there is no neg at this post.

      I guess you guys just buy this 4090 then, let Umart know that people are happy with the current price tag. The resellers will then import more 4090 cards to stock up, and only to realize there maybe isn't a high demand as they thought. They may then lower the price to clear the stock in order to keep the cashflow going, and at that point, I will gladly pick up my 4090 at a price lower than $2939. Thank you guys all who'd buy this inno3d card today.

  • conza on 25/01/2023 - 21:34
    +1

    The weirdest thing is, at 4k resolution, based on the best price to performance card on the market, which sadly is the 4070ti I think, if a RTX 4090 was available for $2414, it would be equal value to a 4070ti at $1479. Using 4K results of, 4090 at 142 fps and 4070ti at 87 fps.

    • ssfps on 26/01/2023 - 02:15
      +1

      4070ti is roughly the same price:perf as a 3090, so worse than mid range rx6000 and rtx3000 series cards still available.

  • theriddick on 26/01/2023 - 20:25

    There was a $2709 delivered one going a couple weeks back, wish I had the savings to get that one.

    Apparently 2023 is going to be real bad for inflation and we could see a surge in new GPU prices.. shame.

    • Smilence03 on 26/01/2023 - 22:30

      which website did you see that on mate?

      • theriddick on 27/01/2023 - 11:43

        It was on Newegg not long back, but price has jumped up since then… (The AU newegg not US site)

        • Smilence03 on 27/01/2023 - 13:25

          that was without import duty. the actual price for that item was $2798 all up. in which case, very similar price to some of the domestic cards already. That was the reason why i didn't pull the trigger. Almost the same price as some of the models in australia

          • theriddick on 28/01/2023 - 19:32

            @Smilence03: When I went to checkout it was like 2709 with gst. So I dunno.

  • RageofAsmongold on 02/02/2023 - 09:03

    Deal breaker: This card is hard limited to 450W in BIOS and provides only a 3 8-pin connector, as opposed to 4 in Founder, Gigabyte Gaming OC, and TUF.
    Not that 5% performance for the extra 150W counts much, but that generally says something about how confident the manufacturer is with the product design.
    Besides if you are paying 3k for a card what's the point if you can't even have some fun with OC?

    • Junk Sifter on 03/02/2023 - 01:42

      It's not about confidence, it's about how the card is built. NVIDIA reference PCB is designed for 450W power limit as it utilises 55A DrMOS parts in the VRMs.

      It can't handle the 600W that the FE and Asus Strix cards are designed for, which utilise 70A parts.

      • RageofAsmongold on 03/02/2023 - 11:26

        You're right to some degree. But Gaming OC uses 20+4 50A and TUF uses 18 70A+4 50A phases of power delivery, both of which are much stronger than this 450W reference design. And only based on that they are confident enough to support 600W.
        Again, paying 3k is no small money. At least go for the quality ones rather than skimping off a few dollars on mediocre brands / designs with features missing.

        • cloudie9 on 03/02/2023 - 13:13

          I ended up going with Gaming OC due to the fact it has little to no coil whine as per interwebs feedback. TUF a little high on my budget side.

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