[SA, VIC] Razor Electric Scooter $350 (Was $499) + Delivery ($0 C&C/In-Store) @ Big W

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wisdomtooth on 28/05/2023 - 10:48 bigw.com.au (791 clicks)
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I saw some scooters being posted above this price, and decided to repost this, as it's still on (just not with free delivery). And inb4 people cry OOS, it's available in SA and VIC.

Product Features:

• 250-watt, high-torque, hub motor
• 8” (200 mm) pneumatic front wheel absorbs the bumps
• Variable-speed thumb throttle
• Hand-operated, rear disc brake
• Headlight
• Speed: Up to 15 mph (24 km/h)
• Run Time: Up to 40 minutes of continuous use
• Max Rider Weight: 220 lb (100 kg)

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  pizzaguy on 28/05/2023 - 11:22

  +4

  And inb4 people cry OOS, it's available in SA and VIC.

  Then mark it as [SA, VIC], inb4 somebody points it out.

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    wisdomtooth on 28/05/2023 - 11:39

    +1

    Good point! Ok, done.

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  Ebisu on 28/05/2023 - 11:38

  24V (two 12V) sealed lead-acid, rechargeable how is this compared to other batteries

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    pizzaguy on 28/05/2023 - 11:47

    From this source:

    Lead-acid batteries are cheaper and are easier to install when compared to Lithium-ion batteries. The price of a lithium-ion battery is two times higher than a lead-acid battery with the same capacity. However, if someone compares the life of the batteries, lithium-ion lasts longer than a lead-acid battery. 23 Dec 2022

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    ozmau5 on 28/05/2023 - 12:31

    Generally speaking SLA batteries are considered an old technology compared to Li-ion batteries. They have shorter lifecycle, die earlier, less energy density and less charging efficiency, etc.
    The only benefit they have is that they're cheaper

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      wisdomtooth on 28/05/2023 - 20:01

      … and safer?

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        ozmau5 on 29/05/2023 - 12:29

        -1

        Right, it's safer in terms of thermal runaway, although now most companies add a circuit breaker to Li batteries which makes it as safe as SLAs. However In terms of environment, SLAs are more toxic compared to Li.
        Personally it's the first time I see a scooter using an SLA battery. Not sure how long they last, but definitely is a good option if someone's after a cheaper option

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          wisdomtooth on 30/05/2023 - 01:56

          @ozmau5:

          However In terms of environment, SLAs are more toxic compared to Li.

          Wrong:

          Lead-acid batteries are generally easier to recycle, and the lead can be reused in new batteries. Lithium batteries, however, are more challenging to recycle due to their complex composition, which includes various metals and chemicals. (ChatGPT)

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            wisdomtooth on 30/05/2023 - 02:04

            @wisdomtooth: Further:

            Lead-acid batteries are generally more recyclable compared to lithium batteries. Lead-acid batteries have a high recycling rate, typically exceeding 99%. The recycling process involves crushing the battery components, separating the lead, plastic, and acid electrolyte. The lead can then be used to manufacture new batteries, reducing the need for new lead extraction.

            On the other hand, lithium batteries are more challenging to recycle due to their complex composition. Lithium battery recycling involves various steps to recover valuable metals like lithium, cobalt, nickel, and copper. However, the process is currently less developed and has a lower recycling rate compared to lead-acid batteries. The recycling technologies for lithium batteries are still evolving and require further advancements to improve efficiency and effectiveness.

            It is worth noting that while lead-acid batteries have a higher recycling rate, improper recycling or disposal of either battery type can lead to environmental contamination. Therefore, it is essential to ensure that all batteries, regardless of type, are recycled or disposed of properly to minimize their environmental impact. (ChatGPT)

            IOW, SLAs are far more environmentally friendly than lithium, and have minimal environmental impact (>99% recycling rate) so long as they aren't sent to landfill.

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              ozmau5 on 30/05/2023 - 08:37

              @wisdomtooth: It seems there is a bit of confusion here. Toxicity and recyclable are two different topic and I don't disagree with ChatGPT that SLAs are more recyclable.

              However, SLAs contain Lead (Pb in periodic table) which is super toxic for the human and environment while Litium (Li in period table) does not have harmful effects on environment.

              The other thing is that the CO2 emission in SLAs is much higher due to the acid they contain. Li batteries produce much less toxic waste compared to SLAs.

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                wisdomtooth on 30/05/2023 - 11:43

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                @ozmau5:

                SLAs contain Lead (Pb in periodic table) which is super toxic for the human and environment while Litium (Li in period table) does not have harmful effects on environment.

                That's simplistic. All elements come from the environment, the question is of concentrations. And Li batteries don't contain just Li; as ChatGPT indicates, they also contain cobalt, nickel, and copper. Regardless, if over 99% of SLAs are recycled, then obviously they're not going back to the environment. Li batteries are.

                CO2 emission in SLAs is much higher due to the acid they contain.

                CO2 is not pollution; it's plant food. It's what all Life exhales (including plants).

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  TheDukeOfNukem on 28/05/2023 - 11:53

  +1

  Run Time: Up to 40 minutes of continuous use

  I'm out of the loop, sure, but surely this can't be an acceptable amount for these things, who in the (profanity) is buying this if they can only use it for a bit over half an hour?

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    pennypincher98 on 28/05/2023 - 12:13

    +3

    If this goes 24km/h then one can comfortably go on a 6km round trip (using 30 mins of charge and leaving 10 mins buffer) to somewhere like work for if there's no good public transport or it's too far to walk.

    If it's possible to charge this at work, one could go maximum 15km away (fully utilising charge). That's like Chadstone to Southern Cross Stn to give an idea of distance

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    The Vat on 28/05/2023 - 13:28

    It's what's known as "last mile" type transport (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_mile_(transportation)).

    "Last mile", as in getting people to and from longer distance transport options like a bus stop or train station, is logistically the most difficult part of transport. It's why organisations are looking at things like drones and autonomous delivery vehicles to try and realise efficiencies.

    In the case of passenger transport, if you're within a half hour walk of a transport option at either end of the trip, something like this could give more transport options rather than just driving.

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  Dealr on 28/05/2023 - 12:24

  Not up on the rules, but pretty sure you cant use these anywhere but on private property here in SA? Happy to be corrected…

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    Laziofogna on 28/05/2023 - 14:07

    In theory yes, but I see them everywhere in the suburbs

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  sween64 on 28/05/2023 - 12:35

  4 stores with low stock, 1 store with good stock. Is there sufficient quantity for a deal?

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    pizzaguy on 28/05/2023 - 13:57

    +1

    Yes.

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    wisdomtooth on 30/05/2023 - 04:16

    If you look for C&C stores near Adelaide on Big W's own website, you'll see it's in stock at:

    • Cumberland Park
    • Brickworks
    • Mildura
    • Mount Gambier
    • Bendigo
      …
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  supergolf10 on 28/05/2023 - 16:09

  since seeing someones e-bike/scooter explode on them, my interest in getting one has vanished

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    wisdomtooth on 28/05/2023 - 16:42

    -1

    😱

    Video, or didn't happen 😆

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    pennypincher98 on 28/05/2023 - 17:19

    -1

    Haven't seen the video but peoples phones have exploded and yet that diminish my interest in getting a phone.

    If it was this exact model and they didn't do something stupid that would be more cause for concern.

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    The Vat on 28/05/2023 - 18:21

    +2

    Lead acid's pretty safe, and Segway's a reputable brand.

    The imported Li Chinese scooters and eBikes that many people are bringing over, not so much.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-18/e-scooter-lithium-bat…

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  [Deactivated] on 28/05/2023 - 21:30

  Are these legal to use in SA?

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    wisdomtooth on 29/05/2023 - 08:25

    Not on the street, but…